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Quote from: RealMalatesta on November 14, 2021, 01:18:36 PM

Typical Asian pitch. This cannot be a fair play where toss decides everything. Now I wonder the importance of having 3 match series to decide the winner; because I guess that could be the only solution for the pitches and conditions are favoring 2nd batting. Flat pitch should be batting friendly through the match but Dubai is a complete different venue with dew factor.

The moment you win the toss, all bets are in favour of you. There is no need to conduct match in UAE, only have a toss and give victory to side batting second. There were only few encounters where side batting second struggled but overall its comfortable journey for side batting second. Next T20 WC is in Aus and lets hope we dont have such conditions there.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 14, 2021, 12:33:02 PM

every team chasing won the match chasing with one over to spare.

Typical Asian pitch. This cannot be a fair play where toss decides everything. Now I wonder the importance of having 3 match series to decide the winner; because I guess that could be the only solution for the pitches and conditions are favoring 2nd batting. Flat pitch should be batting friendly through the match but Dubai is a complete different venue with dew factor.

Quote from: Theones on November 14, 2021, 01:07:26 PM

Aus struggled in semis against Pakistan as they lost 5 wickets but in the final they once again have a comfortable win.

This is where New Zealand slipped down. Their spinners failed to deliver at the final. Australia lost 5 wickets in semifinal against Pakistan due to their spin attack which is totally inefficient in today's match, this way again I wonder on the nature of Dubai pitch.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 14, 2021, 12:33:02 PM

Australia won their first T20 World Cup, a team no one even gave a chance to reach the final let alone win the cup. The common theme is the team chasing won the matches and in both the semi final and in the final, every team chasing won the match chasing with one over to spare. Warner regained his form at the right moment and they played well to win their first World Cup and once again New Zealand is disappointed after reaching the final.

The chase was awesome. Mitchel Marsh who received the player of the match and David Warner who received the player of the tournament, played marvelous. These batsmen were just smashing in every bowler's overs. NZ did really score well and there was a great contribution from Williamson but Mitchel, Warner and Maxwell made their game much easier and own the match.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 14, 2021, 12:33:02 PM

Australia won their first T20 World Cup, a team no one even gave a chance to reach the final let alone win the cup. The common theme is the team chasing won the matches and in both the semi final and in the final, every team chasing won the match chasing with one over to spare. Warner regained his form at the right moment and they played well to win their first World Cup and once again New Zealand is disappointed after reaching the final.

NZ batted well but they should have gone for target of 185 runs to challenge Australia batting. Willimson took full advantage of his drop catch at 19, his inning helped NZ in setting target of 172. In reply Aus was in full control of the match throughout there batting. Aus struggled in semis against Pakistan as they lost 5 wickets but in the final they once again have a comfortable win.

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Australia won their first T20 World Cup, a team no one even gave a chance to reach the final let alone win the cup. The common theme is the team chasing won the matches and in both the semi final and in the final, every team chasing won the match chasing with one over to spare. Warner regained his form at the right moment and they played well to win their first World Cup and once again New Zealand is disappointed after reaching the final.

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Quote from: Shagnasty on November 14, 2021, 11:09:34 AM

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New Zealand made 172. Is it going to be enough?

Everyone was saying that NewZealand should score 180 runs in order to be in a good position in the match. They have managed to make 172 runs, just 8 runs short of 180. I think this should be enough because its a world cup final and batting won't be easy because of this pressure.
If newzealand can manage to get one or two early wickets, they will be the favorites.

Yes it is a very good total from newzealand and a masterclass from the newzealand captain kane williamson but dont know my gut feeling saying that australia win chase this down. They are good chasing team with some good power hitters in their team and warner is back is form as well so actually I am backing australia to chase this one down.

The match really turned positive when Williams wicket was missed. The easy catch was missed when William was at his 29. Then yes he was just on fire hitting to boundaries and that pressurized Ausi bowlers. However yes now Ausi is chasing well with 67/1 at 8.4 overs. Warner is on strike with 2 boundaries 1 six in Jothi's over now. The match is really interesting. 173 is a challenging target in finals. Lets see what happens.

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Quote from: CDC AP on November 14, 2021, 11:18:50 AM

Australia had a average start to the powerplay. They lost aron finch early but michell marsh has started well till now and warning is setting himself in.
The score is 43-1 after 6 overs which a bit low but the most important thing that warner is still there and if he can be there for bit longer then he can play spin well and can be a big plus in the chase. Lets see what happens.

I disagree. Australia didn't played well in the powerplay. They lost Finch and the run rate plummeted after he got out. At this point, the match still looks 50/50 for me. Both Warner and Mitchell Marsh are at 26 now. But the difference is that Warner took twice as many deliveries as Marsh to reach there (26 vs 13). One thing is sure.. this match is going to go down the wire. I am rooting for New Zealand, but I am not too sure that they'll lift the trophy. Australia are very good finishers and they always perform to their best during the finals.

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Australia had a average start to the powerplay. They lost aron finch early but michell marsh has started well till now and warning is setting himself in.
The score is 43-1 after 6 overs which a bit low but the most important thing that warner is still there and if he can be there for bit longer then he can play spin well and can be a big plus in the chase. Lets see what happens.

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New Zealand made 172. Is it going to be enough?

Everyone was saying that NewZealand should score 180 runs in order to be in a good position in the match. They have managed to make 172 runs, just 8 runs short of 180. I think this should be enough because its a world cup final and batting won't be easy because of this pressure.
If newzealand can manage to get one or two early wickets, they will be the favorites.

Yes it is a very good total from newzealand and a masterclass from the newzealand captain kane williamson but dont know my gut feeling saying that australia win chase this down. They are good chasing team with some good power hitters in their team and warner is back is form as well so actually I am backing australia to chase this one down.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 14, 2021, 10:46:28 AM

New Zealand made 172. Is it going to be enough?

Everyone was saying that NewZealand should score 180 runs in order to be in a good position in the match. They have managed to make 172 runs, just 8 runs short of 180. I think this should be enough because its a world cup final and batting won't be easy because of this pressure.
If newzealand can manage to get one or two early wickets, they will be the favorites.

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New Zealand made 172. Is it going to be enough? Australia do have some destructive batsmen up the order. Warner is in excellent form. Can the New Zealand pacers contain them? The match still looks 50/50 for me. We may get a better picture once Australia completes their power play batting. Although New Zealand have some of the best pacers in international cricket right now, they are very inconsistent. I would have been more optimistic, if Kyle Jamieson and Lockie Ferguson were in the playing XI.

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Quote from: Theones on November 14, 2021, 09:32:29 AM

Power play is over and NZ scored 32 runs in 6 overs. 180 from here on looks somewhat difficult, seeing the tight bowling of Aus and absence of Conway from NZ batting line up. Projected total looks like to 160, which will not be adequate. NZ needs boundaries, lots of boundaries.

Kane Williamson is in good form and the ease with which he is batting looks great, he took on Mitchell Starc and scored 22 runs and he needs to keep on going and Glenn Phillips needs to go for boundaries and the odds changed drastically now when they started to smash boundaries. You need to have a good total on the board to be competitive around 180 runs if not Australia will be able to chase the score.

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Quote from: virasog on November 14, 2021, 08:40:28 AM

Australia have won the toss and they are bowling first in the final. Does this mean that the winner of the final will be Australians as we have seen teams batting second have won more often than the teams batting first.
For NewZealand, they have to score near 180+ and also hope dew don't spoil their game.

Power play is over and NZ scored 32 runs in 6 overs. 180 from here on looks somewhat difficult, seeing the tight bowling of Aus and absence of Conway from NZ batting line up. Projected total looks like to 160, which will not be adequate. NZ needs boundaries, lots of boundaries.

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New Zealand is batting first and it is not looking good, the team is playing slow and i am not expecting much from New Zealand as i am not expecting to score big with the way they are playing right now and if they score around 160 runs, i think Australia could easily chase them.

Wanted to see New Zealand win the World Cup and this is their best opportunity and hopefully they will fight for that rather than surrendering easily.

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Quote from: virasog on November 14, 2021, 08:40:28 AM

Australia have won the toss and they are bowling first in the final. Does this mean that the winner of the final will be Australians as we have seen teams batting second have won more often than the teams batting first.
For NewZealand, they have to score near 180+ and also hope dew don't spoil their game.

That's the irony of UAE, you won toss you win the match. Australia now has more chances of winning the game. In 3.3 overs NZ have scored 28 runs with no wickets loss. If they keep on scoring like that then 180+ is surely on the board. Meanwhile i have placed my met on Australia, since I have believe on the toss.

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Quote from: virasog on November 14, 2021, 08:40:28 AM

Australia have won the toss and they are bowling first in the final. Does this mean that the winner of the final will be Australians as we have seen teams batting second have won more often than the teams batting first.
For NewZealand, they have to score near 180+ and also hope dew don't spoil their game.

This is the one game where you wouldn't mind losing the toss. Might as well hand the trophy to New Zealand now, but we can't give last decision and don't underestimate as runs on the board in a final. Toss implies half of the success is in favor of Australia. How about we check whether New Zealand can score 180+, in the event that they can change the pattern they will be genuinely meriting champions.

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Australia have won the toss and they are bowling first in the final. Does this mean that the winner of the final will be Australians as we have seen teams batting second have won more often than the teams batting first.
For NewZealand, they have to score near 180+ and also hope dew don't spoil their game.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 14, 2021, 04:58:24 AM

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B/W I will place my bet right after the toss, anyone winning the toss will surely win the game.

Winning toss and choosing fielding first also more important. I guess in this tournament Bangladesh and Afghanistan had chosen to bat first after winning the toss but ended up losing their matches if my memory serves be perfect. I am also in plan to bet after the toss but we need to remember that in the IPL final, CSK won the title after batting first on the same venue. So, we need to be prepared to face all kind of results as well.

Absence of Convoy might be getting them negative impact to New Zealand in my perdition. Still, bowling attack in terms of both pace and spin, I guess New Zealand is in better form than Australia in my opinion.

New Zealand without Conway will be weaker than Australia as far as batting is concerned. However in bowling, New Zealand has the advantage. With Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins not in form, there is a chance that the New Zealand openers and Williamson may add some quick runs in the initial overs. Middle overs will be problematic for NZ, with Adam Zampa in great form. And for Australia, they need to find out a way to take on the Kiwi pace battery. The absence of Ferguson has left a chink, and they just need to exploit it.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 14, 2021, 04:58:24 AM

Winning toss and choosing fielding first also more important. I guess in this tournament Bangladesh and Afghanistan had chosen to bat first after winning the toss but ended up losing their matches if my memory serves be perfect. I am also in plan to bet after the toss but we need to remember that in the IPL final, CSK won the title after batting first on the same venue. So, we need to be prepared to face all kind of results as well.

Winning the toss and fielding first is the safe bet. Yes i remember the IPL final but the difference was the high score, chasing 192 runs will put pressure on the batsman and we have not seen matches in the World Cup where the team is constantly scoring above 180 runs. Anything above 180 runs then it is a different story, anything below that the team can chase if they have wickets in hand.

Quote from: TheGreatPython on November 14, 2021, 04:58:24 AM

Absence of Convoy might be getting them negative impact to New Zealand in my perdition. Still, bowling attack in terms of both pace and spin, I guess New Zealand is in better form than Australia in my opinion.

It is unfortunate Devon Conway broke his hand and will miss the final, not sure who will be in the team as his replacement. I give the advantage to New Zealand and hopefully we will see a competitive match.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 13, 2021, 09:49:45 PM

Neither Australia nor Newzealand has won the T20 World cup so far. I remember Australi came very close to winning the T20 world cup in 2010. So, I am expecting both teams to fight hard for the cup. They both were able to beat two powerful teams in the semifinals. This time we will have a first-time winner if any of these teams wins the cup.

Australia has never won T20 WC but has won 5 ODI WC, on the other hand NZ wasn't able to win any WC till date. Both Aus and NZ are equally favorite for this game though odds are in favor of Aus. One advantage which Aus might have over NZ is that they have more depth in batting.

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