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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2021, 10:19:41 PM

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It is not a condition that happened all of a sudden, here in my country the government took precaution and placed precautionary measures as the virus kept on mutating and all the health experts were warning about this for months and if Indian government did not hear this then it is the fault of your government as i have seen horrible visuals what is happening in India and i was actually surprised that the tournament is underway.

India is a country with 1.4 billion people and it is always easy to blame the government when the people themselves are responsible for this situation. No one predicted this jump in the infections and by March, the daily number of cases was as low as 8,000. This has jumped to 350,000-400,000. But the BCCI was wrong to conduct the tournament in a country where the vaccination drive covered only 2% of the population. The advantage with UAE is that a majority of the population there have been vaccinated.

The BCCI should have hosted the IPL in the UAE like the previous season. Or arrange in both countries. Then IPL would not have to be stopped now. However, no one could have imagined that the second wave of coronavirus in India would take such a terrible form. Hopefully very soon the situation will return to normal and the IPL will start again in compliance with the health restrictions.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 05, 2021, 12:55:42 AM

Most states are in lockdown and I guess they will remain until the end of June or early August. A lot of people are out of job and the next thing you will hear in the news is people dying because of hunger.

The central government has refused the opposition demand for a countrywide lockdown. I think this is justified, as states such as Assam and Tripura has the pandemic under control when compared to the states where it was mismanaged (Maharashtra, Delhi, Gujarat.etc). If the lockdown is imposed, it should be imposed only on those states which mismanaged the crisis. Why should states such as Assam suffer from the irresponsible behavior by other state governments? BTW, cricket at any level is simply not possible at least for the next 2-3 months. So if you are looking for a resumption of the IPL anytime soon, then you will be disappointed.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 04, 2021, 10:19:41 PM

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It is not a condition that happened all of a sudden, here in my country the government took precaution and placed precautionary measures as the virus kept on mutating and all the health experts were warning about this for months and if Indian government did not hear this then it is the fault of your government as i have seen horrible visuals what is happening in India and i was actually surprised that the tournament is underway.

India is a country with 1.4 billion people and it is always easy to blame the government when the people themselves are responsible for this situation. No one predicted this jump in the infections and by March, the daily number of cases was as low as 8,000. This has jumped to 350,000-400,000. But the BCCI was wrong to conduct the tournament in a country where the vaccination drive covered only 2% of the population. The advantage with UAE is that a majority of the population there have been vaccinated.

Both the central and state government are responsible for the present situation. They both created an atmosphere before April this year that everything was normal. Indians actually bought this and were very casuals towards the pandemic. Now the situation has gone so bad that more people are now dying of fear than the actual disease. The media, on the other hand, has been very irresponsible, their main aim now is to create more fear among everyone.

Most states are in lockdown and I guess they will remain until the end of June or early August. A lot of people are out of job and the next thing you will hear in the news is people dying because of hunger.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on May 04, 2021, 03:43:50 PM

It is not a condition that happened all of a sudden, here in my country the government took precaution and placed precautionary measures as the virus kept on mutating and all the health experts were warning about this for months and if Indian government did not hear this then it is the fault of your government as i have seen horrible visuals what is happening in India and i was actually surprised that the tournament is underway.

India is a country with 1.4 billion people and it is always easy to blame the government when the people themselves are responsible for this situation. No one predicted this jump in the infections and by March, the daily number of cases was as low as 8,000. This has jumped to 350,000-400,000. But the BCCI was wrong to conduct the tournament in a country where the vaccination drive covered only 2% of the population. The advantage with UAE is that a majority of the population there have been vaccinated.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 04, 2021, 01:31:10 PM

How can we be so sure about the condition becoming normal in another 2 months? None of the medical experts could predict the huge spike in April, when the number of cases went up by 30-40 times all of a sudden.

It is not a condition that happened all of a sudden, here in my country the government took precaution and placed precautionary measures as the virus kept on mutating and all the health experts were warning about this for months and if Indian government did not hear this then it is the fault of your government as i have seen horrible visuals what is happening in India and i was actually surprised that the tournament is underway.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 04, 2021, 01:31:10 PM

So what is the guarantee that another spike won't occur when the tournament is underway in October? And we need to remember that the World Cup involves 16 teams. The BCCI had difficulty in managing a tournament which involved just 8 teams and now they want to host the world cup?

There is no guarantee that another spike will not happen because the virus is mutating and there is a doubt that the vaccines we have now will not help with some of the variants which is scary.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on May 04, 2021, 12:03:11 PM

There seems to be some disagreement between the ICC and the BCCI regarding the T20 World Cup. The ICC wants to move the event to Dubai as soon as possible, but the BCCI want them to wait for a few more weeks at least, saying that the tournament is many months away. On this, I would side with the ICC. It has been proven now that the BCCI cares only about money and not a bit about the well being of the players. So ICC is absolutely right in their demand to move the tournament outside India.

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Quote from: mersal on May 04, 2021, 12:55:10 PM

The peak will be reduced in the next week or two so the condition will become normal in 2 months maximum so they will be good to conduct the tournaments if everything goes normally.

I don't know about the IPl contract between the players where is something related to such emergency compensation is available but they paid good amount at the auction so they will also be happy with the money they got as long as BCCI is taking all the expenses until the IPL resumes.

How can we be so sure about the condition becoming normal in another 2 months? None of the medical experts could predict the huge spike in April, when the number of cases went up by 30-40 times all of a sudden. So what is the guarantee that another spike won't occur when the tournament is underway in October? And we need to remember that the World Cup involves 16 teams. The BCCI had difficulty in managing a tournament which involved just 8 teams and now they want to host the world cup?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 04, 2021, 11:13:59 AM

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I shocked when I saw that IPL has been stopped since the virus entered into more teams and in my opinion, it will take at least 2 to 3 months to resume the matches again if they want to continue the matches in India, or else they should move the tournament to UAE or another country which is also less likely to happen.

BCCI and Franchises will take care of the players because they got enough money to keep everyone in the hotels for years so no need to worry about them.

BCCI made the mistake of conducting the matches in India, when the pandemic was at its peak. Now they should properly compensate the players, especially those from the foreign nations. The BCCI bosses (especially Ganguly and Shah) are responsible for this situation, as they never considered any factor other than making money. Now at least they should move the T20 World Cup to the UAE. India is not in a condition to host any major tournament under current conditions.

The peak will be reduced in the next week or two so the condition will become normal in 2 months maximum so they will be good to conduct the tournaments if everything goes normally.

I don't know about the IPl contract between the players where is something related to such emergency compensation is available but they paid good amount at the auction so they will also be happy with the money they got as long as BCCI is taking all the expenses until the IPL resumes.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on May 04, 2021, 05:20:10 AM

I guess they will need to wait untill the restriction has been removed. BCCI made it tricky, when they knew that the situation in India and especially in Maharashtra is so bad they should have stopped IPL for the time being and should have rescheduled it later. Strict action should be taken against those responsible.

That is how confidence looks like, when you have a second wave and people dying around you, you need to be confident that nothing will happen unless anything serious happens and now they knew that they cannot handle the situation when multiple people from different teams started to get infected and rather than delaying things they paused the series indefinitely when they should have done a few weeks earlier.

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There seems to be some disagreement between the ICC and the BCCI regarding the T20 World Cup. The ICC wants to move the event to Dubai as soon as possible, but the BCCI want them to wait for a few more weeks at least, saying that the tournament is many months away. On this, I would side with the ICC. It has been proven now that the BCCI cares only about money and not a bit about the well being of the players. So ICC is absolutely right in their demand to move the tournament outside India.

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I shocked when I saw that IPL has been stopped since the virus entered into more teams and in my opinion, it will take at least 2 to 3 months to resume the matches again if they want to continue the matches in India, or else they should move the tournament to UAE or another country which is also less likely to happen.

BCCI and Franchises will take care of the players because they got enough money to keep everyone in the hotels for years so no need to worry about them.

BCCI made the mistake of conducting the matches in India, when the pandemic was at its peak. Now they should properly compensate the players, especially those from the foreign nations. The BCCI bosses (especially Ganguly and Shah) are responsible for this situation, as they never considered any factor other than making money. Now at least they should move the T20 World Cup to the UAE. India is not in a condition to host any major tournament under current conditions.

India are passing a tough situation, so this is really anticipated choice. I think it's right call from BCCI, no one should make complain as of now. However, this was meant to be done few days before but they tried to keep going through. As a cricket fan it's sad but safety of cricketers should be paramount and put at highest priority. Looking forward the better days of cricket.

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Quote from: mersal on May 04, 2021, 10:57:41 AM

I shocked when I saw that IPL has been stopped since the virus entered into more teams and in my opinion, it will take at least 2 to 3 months to resume the matches again if they want to continue the matches in India, or else they should move the tournament to UAE or another country which is also less likely to happen.

BCCI and Franchises will take care of the players because they got enough money to keep everyone in the hotels for years so no need to worry about them.

BCCI made the mistake of conducting the matches in India, when the pandemic was at its peak. Now they should properly compensate the players, especially those from the foreign nations. The BCCI bosses (especially Ganguly and Shah) are responsible for this situation, as they never considered any factor other than making money. Now at least they should move the T20 World Cup to the UAE. India is not in a condition to host any major tournament under current conditions.

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I shocked when I saw that IPL has been stopped since the virus entered into more teams and in my opinion, it will take at least 2 to 3 months to resume the matches again if they want to continue the matches in India, or else they should move the tournament to UAE or another country which is also less likely to happen.

BCCI and Franchises will take care of the players because they got enough money to keep everyone in the hotels for years so no need to worry about them.

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So Amit Mishra has also tested positive? It looks like they are still testing some of the players and more positive results may come out later today or tomorrow. One thing is sure. The bio-secure bubble was breached at least 2-3 days back. It is not possible for multiple people from different franchises to get infected in just one day. The BCCI should investigate about how the virus managed to enter the bubble, rather than blaming Varun Chakravarthy for the fiasco.

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The announcement came after Sunrisers Hyderabad’s wicketkeeper-batsman Wriddhiman Saha tested positive for COVID-19 along with Delhi Capitals’ veteran spinner Amit Mishra. Earlier on Monday, Chennai Super Kings bowling coach L Balaji along with Kolkata Knight Riders bowlers Sandeep Warrier and Varun Chakravarthy had also returned positive results.

I just hope and pray that everyone will be fine and no serious harm for anyone. This might be the toughest time for the families of foreign players as they will be worried too much for their husband or son. The BCCI is assuring the safety of the players but the problem in India no one is safe anywhere right now.

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Not sure how the overseas players will be able to leave India as England, Australia and New Zealand has suspended flights from India and they will face prosecution if they fly from India and Australia went one step further saying they will face 5 year jail sentence if they breach those. So it is a tricky situation for everyone involved.

I guess they will need to wait untill the restriction has been removed. BCCI made it tricky, when they knew that the situation in India and especially in Maharashtra is so bad they should have stopped IPL for the time being and should have rescheduled it later. Strict action should be taken against those responsible.

First of all they made the mistake by staging the matches in two of the worst affected cities - Mumbai and Delhi. And the breach in bio-bubble occurred in one of these cities. If they had scheduled the tournament in the UAE, then they would have been able to complete it without much issues. They ignored the warning from a lot of medical experts and were adamant about their decision to stage the matches in India. Everyone is suffering as a result now.

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Not sure how the overseas players will be able to leave India as England, Australia and New Zealand has suspended flights from India and they will face prosecution if they fly from India and Australia went one step further saying they will face 5 year jail sentence if they breach those. So it is a tricky situation for everyone involved.

I guess they will need to wait untill the restriction has been removed. BCCI made it tricky, when they knew that the situation in India and especially in Maharashtra is so bad they should have stopped IPL for the time being and should have rescheduled it later. Strict action should be taken against those responsible.

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^^^ Foreign players are in a tricky situation. They may be forced to stay in India for another month or so, if their countries don't want them back. Since the numbers are large, I hope that the Australian government will implement some sort of an exemption and will allow them back. There is already one loophole in the US travel ban. Those who are traveling to the US from India can quarantine themselves in a "safe" country such as Mexico or Turkey for 14-days before entering the States. I hope there are similar loopholes with Australia as well.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 04, 2021, 02:54:13 AM

From what I heard, the tournament has been suspended for an indefinite period.

It is official the IPL is suspended indefinitely as more players tested positive as Sunrisers Hyderabad becomes the third team that is suffering from positive cases.

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I am not sure whether all of the overseas players will remain with the franchises.

Not sure how the overseas players will be able to leave India as England, Australia and New Zealand has suspended flights from India and they will face prosecution if they fly from India and Australia went one step further saying they will face 5 year jail sentence if they breach those. So it is a tricky situation for everyone involved.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on May 04, 2021, 02:35:46 AM

IPL is stopped on account of increasing corona spread among the players and staffs. This is a temporary for a week's time, based on the situation will be the further announcement on the league. Till date 29 matches have got over.

From what I heard, the tournament has been suspended for an indefinite period.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ipl-2021-suspended-as-covid-count-increases-1262269

There is a BCCI meeting next week, and a decision on how to schedule the remaining matches will be taken during that meeting. But given the CoVID 19 situation in India, I am not hopeful of a resumption anytime during the next 2 months. And in case the tournament resumes within the next 2-3 months, I am not sure whether all of the overseas players will remain with the franchises.

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