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In the end of DC's innings, they have scored 157 runs. I think DC is in safe zone now. They lost early wickets, they lost Stoinis, Dhawan and Rahane in 4 overs. I don't think anyone thought that Delhi capital would be able to target so many runs. Thanks to Lyre and Pant. Their great partnership has brought such a large collection to DC.

There are many good batsmen in the MI's squad. Such as de kock, Rohit Sharma, Pollard and Pandya. They all played terribly well in the t20 format. Let's see who wins the title this time. Cool

Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After losing early wickets its still good target but not for MI because they have very strong batting line up and mostly their batsmen was in good form so they take good advantage of this and done is very easily DC is good team but they have bad day and lost this final but now they have some good time for next season and they can do some more good because now they have unit of talented players just need to bring them back and give some more intention most chances they will able to give good fight in next season as well or can win if they have good days.

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Quote from: Yudhisthir on November 13, 2020, 12:37:33 PM

I would not consider the finals one-sided. Though Delhi lost all it's matches with Mumbai, Mumbai was not undefeated in the league. And the final was itself a competitive one as Delhi took even the smaller target for Mumbai to last 10 balls. And statistically, it was a good league for Delhi as they reached the finals for the first time

No one would argue against Delhi Capitals having their best season in the history of IPL but the second eliminator was a good match but then when it came to the final they lost it completely the moment they won the toss in the final and electing to bat and then went on to loose early wickets and MI dominating the match from the start and then when MI was batting the DC bowlers failed to picked early wickets and where does the competitive aspect comes into play Grin

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Quote from: Yudhisthir on November 13, 2020, 12:37:33 PM

I would not consider the finals one-sided. Though Delhi lost all it's matches with Mumbai, Mumbai was not undefeated in the league. And the final was itself a competitive one as Delhi took even the smaller target for Mumbai to last 10 balls. And statistically, it was a good league for Delhi as they reached the finals for the first time

The match was finished in 18.4 overs which is considered as a one sided match in T20 format. You may call this margin a good one in ODI but in the T20 format you expect the matches to go to the last ball/over.

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I would not consider the finals one-sided. Though Delhi lost all it's matches with Mumbai, Mumbai was not undefeated in the league. And the final was itself a competitive one as Delhi took even the smaller target for Mumbai to last 10 balls. And statistically, it was a good league for Delhi as they reached the finals for the first time

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on November 13, 2020, 08:56:14 AM

Although the tournament ended few days ago but it will always be remembered as this was played in the year 2020 without crowds because of pandemic.

No one will forget this year irrespective of whether you are a sports fan or not, my life is completely changed and i am financially restricted because of the pandemic and to get rid of the stress we needed some sort of entertainment and UFC resumed without fans and was providing that and then Soccer resumed without crowds and the IPL for all the cricket fans.

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PSL will resume from tomorrow. Multan Sultans will take on Karachi Kings in the first qualifier in Karachi. Multan sultan will miss James Vince as he is covid-19 positive. Although there is no hype for the PSL resuming but i am sure after the first match, the interest will built up.

Have to figure out how to watch the matches, if it is interesting it would attain the hype.

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DC played great at the start of the season. They got some great wins. I don't know what happened to them at the end of the season. After the performance of the whole team broke down a lot. But they played really great against SRH. If they hadn't lost early wickets in the final, I think the final would have been competitive.

DC was one of my favorite teams, because they had the largest contingent of young Indian players, in Shreyas Iyer, Prithvi Shaw and Rishabh Pant. But they were unable to maintain the momentum. And in more than one occasion, they lost matches which they could have easily won. I would still say that they were unable to win the tournament, because the players cared more about their individual records.

No doubt DC is a team of young players but they have shown in this season that they are very inconsistent. About Prithvi Shaw I do not understand why he is part of a T20 team. He is not a guy who can start hitting the ball from the first ball itself he needs time to settle. In my opinion he is one day and more of a test player.

Mumbai Indian were very strong team in this season and they deserve the title. They won the title 5 times which is very big achievement. When you have Trent Boult and Bumrah in your team, its not easy to beat them. The only thing which was disappointing about the final was that it was a one sided match.

I will say the same thing. The match was completely one-sided. I would be happy if RCB or SRH could play the final against MI [SRH won by a huge margin of 10 wickets against MI, and RCB won by a huge target of 201 runs]. Then maybe the match would have been more competitive. We didn’t have to enjoy a one-sided final match.

We have history of one sided finals in cricket specially in ICC events like 1999 World Cup final and many other finals like this so its can happen in any event because some teams cannot handle pressure and lost very badly due to many factors so same happen in this final as DC was first time in final and they lost very quickly few wickets which hurt their cause in this match and we have one sided final.

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PSL will resume from tomorrow. Multan Sultans will take on Karachi Kings in the first qualifier in Karachi. Multan sultan will miss James Vince as he is covid-19 positive. Although there is no hype for the PSL resuming but i am sure after the first match, the interest will built up.

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Although the tournament ended few days ago but it will always be remembered as this was played in the year 2020 without crowds because of pandemic.

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DC played great at the start of the season. They got some great wins. I don't know what happened to them at the end of the season. After the performance of the whole team broke down a lot. But they played really great against SRH. If they hadn't lost early wickets in the final, I think the final would have been competitive.

DC was one of my favorite teams, because they had the largest contingent of young Indian players, in Shreyas Iyer, Prithvi Shaw and Rishabh Pant. But they were unable to maintain the momentum. And in more than one occasion, they lost matches which they could have easily won. I would still say that they were unable to win the tournament, because the players cared more about their individual records.

No doubt DC is a team of young players but they have shown in this season that they are very inconsistent. About Prithvi Shaw I do not understand why he is part of a T20 team. He is not a guy who can start hitting the ball from the first ball itself he needs time to settle. In my opinion he is one day and more of a test player.

Mumbai Indian were very strong team in this season and they deserve the title. They won the title 5 times which is very big achievement. When you have Trent Boult and Bumrah in your team, its not easy to beat them. The only thing which was disappointing about the final was that it was a one sided match.

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If you watch DC's 3 matches against MI, you will see that DC has lost 3 matches in a very bad way. MI is the only team in this IPL who are very stable and each player has done their respective responsibilities properly. The rhythm of all the other teams has fallen. Some matches played well, some matches played very badly. When playing against a strong team like MI, DC's players should have focused more on their own performance.

The difference was the quality in the MI bowling line up, i just came to know that Trent Boult was let go by DC and trade him with MI and that came back as a harsh decision as he troubled them the most along with Jasprit Bumrah and when you have two world class bowlers in top form bowling at tandem no team would score freely without taking the risk and that would lead to wickets.

If you take the final match, DC was able to stablize and build a fourth wicket partnership because Jasprit Bumrah and Trent Boult finished their spell and i still believe that if the captain would have continued with them the situation would have worsened.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 12, 2020, 11:13:38 PM

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DC played great at the start of the season. They got some great wins. I don't know what happened to them at the end of the season. After the performance of the whole team broke down a lot. But they played really great against SRH. If they hadn't lost early wickets in the final, I think the final would have been competitive.

DC was one of my favorite teams, because they had the largest contingent of young Indian players, in Shreyas Iyer, Prithvi Shaw and Rishabh Pant. But they were unable to maintain the momentum. And in more than one occasion, they lost matches which they could have easily won. I would still say that they were unable to win the tournament, because the players cared more about their individual records.

No doubt DC is a team of young players but they have shown in this season that they are very inconsistent. About Prithvi Shaw I do not understand why he is part of a T20 team. He is not a guy who can start hitting the ball from the first ball itself he needs time to settle. In my opinion he is one day and more of a test player.

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DC played great at the start of the season. They got some great wins. I don't know what happened to them at the end of the season. After the performance of the whole team broke down a lot. But they played really great against SRH. If they hadn't lost early wickets in the final, I think the final would have been competitive.

DC was one of my favorite teams, because they had the largest contingent of young Indian players, in Shreyas Iyer, Prithvi Shaw and Rishabh Pant. But they were unable to maintain the momentum. And in more than one occasion, they lost matches which they could have easily won. I would still say that they were unable to win the tournament, because the players cared more about their individual records.

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Quote from: teosanru on November 12, 2020, 03:56:40 PM

I think if we see only the second half of the tournament Delhi didn't really deserved the title in any way. They performed pretty badly in second half. There were other teams who performed much better. I expected SRH to reach the finals as they played much better in the later half. All on all I felt matches in the later half of the IPL much less thrilling.

Even though i missed the early part of the IPL i watched the matches this month and DC was not in a position to get to the final but they played a good match against SRH which none expected because if you compare their performance SRH was consistent while DC was really struggling and they were able to perform well on that day but against MI they accepted defeat from the start.

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I was feeling now we have some Bore time as no match coming in next few weeks but after checking schedule now have some good news as on Sunday we have two good and entertaining twenty/20 matches first is going to played between Multan Sultans vs Karachi Kings starting time here on forum time 10 AM and second match is going to played between Lahore Qalanders vs Peshawar Zalmi 2:30 PM here on forum time its really worth to watch these matches even few International players not coming due to Corona but still we will have good entertaining cricket from these teams.

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Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

You are correct, as MI bowled well to restrict them to just 36 runs in last 5 overs where they had still 6 wickets left. This would have given some relief as the chase was under 8 an over and the way Rohit started his innings seemed he was set for the target to chase easily and it happened the same. But overall was a good match but not really a tough final that would have expected.

Death bowling I think has always been the strength of Mumbai Indians. I think the few matches that Mumbai lost were actually the ones in which their death bowling failed. Bumrah has become such a dreadful bowler. Boult too got his rhythm in the later part of the tournament. I think Mumbai Indians have invested pretty wisely on their players. They have Rohit, Pollard, Hardik, Krunal and Bumrah since 2013. All they do is pickup a few good foreign players a form a team around these 5 people who are their core. Luckily for them all of these players deliver at the end in some way or the other.

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After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

The failure was the Delhi Capitals top order, when you loose 3 wickets for 22 runs then the rest of the players try to play safe so that they will not loose further wickets and then the pressure to score aggressively in a later stage is not easy, a couple of wickets and their tail will be exposed. With the strong batting line up MI had any addition of runs will not make a difference considering the start they got.

After losing their top 3 batsmen by only 22 runs, no one thought they could score 157 runs. I even thought they would lose all their wickets in 120 runs. Lyre and Pants played much better. Finally, if Hetmyre could add some runs to the scoreboard then maybe DC would be able to score more than 170 runs. The final match was not competitive. Everyone thought MI would be the champion, and they got the title.

I think if we see only the second half of the tournament Delhi didn't really deserved the title in any way. They performed pretty badly in second half. There were other teams who performed much better. I expected SRH to reach the finals as they played much better in the later half. All on all I felt matches in the later half of the IPL much less thrilling.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 12, 2020, 02:29:30 AM

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

The failure was the Delhi Capitals top order, when you loose 3 wickets for 22 runs then the rest of the players try to play safe so that they will not loose further wickets and then the pressure to score aggressively in a later stage is not easy, a couple of wickets and their tail will be exposed. With the strong batting line up MI had any addition of runs will not make a difference considering the start they got.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 12, 2020, 02:29:30 AM

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Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

You are correct, as MI bowled well to restrict them to just 36 runs in last 5 overs where they had still 6 wickets left. This would have given some relief as the chase was under 8 an over and the way Rohit started his innings seemed he was set for the target to chase easily and it happened the same. But overall was a good match but not really a tough final that would have expected.

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Quote from: emmybd on November 12, 2020, 02:09:49 AM

Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

After 15 overs, DC was comfortably placed at 118/4. Usually teams get 70 to 80 runs from the last 5 overs, and based on that I was expecting a total of somewhere around 190-200. But they failed to even score 10 runs per over at this stage (they could manage only 36 runs from the last 5 overs). This is the sole reason why they lost the match. Another 20-25 runs could have made a huge difference.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 10, 2020, 10:49:54 AM

In the end of DC's innings, they have scored 157 runs. I think DC is in safe zone now. They lost early wickets, they lost Stoinis, Dhawan and Rahane in 4 overs. I don't think anyone thought that Delhi capital would be able to target so many runs. Thanks to Lyre and Pant. Their great partnership has brought such a large collection to DC.

There are many good batsmen in the MI's squad. Such as de kock, Rohit Sharma, Pollard and Pandya. They all played terribly well in the t20 format. Let's see who wins the title this time. Cool

Well, I don't think that 157 was a good score to defend when your opponent have got players like Rohit Sharma. Everybody knows what he can do. So I believe Delhi Capitals needed more than 170 runs.. may be 180 to defend against strong team Like Mumbai Indians. Everybody expected much tougher competition in the finals, but that wasn't the case. MI easily won the match and lift the title for the 5th time.

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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments. Tongue

There is another food for thought, Virat Kohli has a big ego and will he be willing to step down as captain Grin

. Rohit Sharma had a better team and the bowlers they had were the trump card and they had a really strong middle order who can strike at over 150 and if Virat Kohli was leading the MI even they will be winning the tournament as they had the best team combination.

On context of better team..

Mumbai stick with more or less same pattern as a team, they back their individual players, unlike RCB. There was a time when likes of Starc, Chris Woakes, Tim Southee, , Coline de grandhomme, Gayle, Quinton De Cock, Shimron Hetmeyer, Marcus Stonis, Travis Head, Chris Jordan, KL Rahul etc were in the team. 1-2 bad season and they are out, that's not how you build a winning combination.

I have no doubt that If Virat was leading the MI then they wouldn't have make into any Playoff or Finals similar to RCB. Virat is Panuti Tongue

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You are right. It is really difficult for a player to captain in 3 formats. 3 captains should be selected for 3 formats, or one captain should be selected for Test and Odi and separate captain for T20.

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Not sure about this. "3 captains for 3 formats" is a relatively recent phenomenon.

Not 3 but 2 Captain. 1 for Limited over cricket (T-20/ODI) and 1 for Test Cricket.

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