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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 11, 2020, 11:52:33 PM

This has been going on for quite sometime now but as you mentioned it did not work out for England earlier the same will happen in the future. Some cricket veterans have been idle for sometime now and to come into the limelight they come up with intersting theories like this sounds more like a PR gimmick.

Earlier most of the boards would pick the same players for all the formats, with a few exceptions. But now that is not the case. They have separate sets of players for all the three formats. Some of the boards have one set of players for test matches and ODIs, while another set for the T20Is. Overall, this is beneficial for the players as it gives more opportunities to the younger players and makes sure that the key players are not overburdened.

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You are right. It is really difficult for a player to captain in 3 formats. 3 captains should be selected for 3 formats, or one captain should be selected for Test and Odi and separate captain for T20. Because t20 game is completely different from ODI and test matches. Here you have to play very fast and make decisions very quickly. If there is any mistake in making a decision, there is a possibility of losing the match.

Not sure about this. "3 captains for 3 formats" is a relatively recent phenomenon. Earlier most of the teams were having the same captain for all the formats. I think it was England which first experimented with different captains. That said, I never felt that it is necessary to have different captains. If a player is equally good in all the formats, then why can't he become the permanent captain?

This has been going on for quite sometime now but as you mentioned it did not work out for England earlier the same will happen in the future. Some cricket veterans have been idle for sometime now and to come into the limelight they come up with intersting theories like this sounds more like a PR gimmick.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 11, 2020, 12:43:06 PM

There is another food for thought, Virat Kohli has a big ego and will he be willing to step down as captain Grin

. Rohit Sharma had a better team and the bowlers they had were the trump card and they had a really strong middle order who can strike at over 150 and if Virat Kohli was leading the MI even they will be winning the tournament as they had the best team combination.

Have to agree with at least some of the points here. There is no doubt that MI was the strongest team in this IPL. They had world class bowlers such as Jasprit Bumrah and Trent Boult, and promising batsmen such as Ishan Kishan. I don't think that they could have fared worse, if Virat was the captain. On the other hand, RCB was a relatively weak and inexperienced team if you remove the 2-3 world class players such as Virat and AB de Villiers.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 11, 2020, 08:08:02 AM

Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments. Tongue

There is another food for thought, Virat Kohli has a big ego and will he be willing to step down as captain Grin

. Rohit Sharma had a better team and the bowlers they had were the trump card and they had a really strong middle order who can strike at over 150 and if Virat Kohli was leading the MI even they will be winning the tournament as they had the best team combination.

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The game was much competitive than I thought. Winning the toss and choosing to bat is an axe at owns leg in a T20 match.
Iyer and Pant did tried to bring a competitive score for Delhi Capitals but the team didn't tried anything different than what they had done in all of their losing match with Mumbai Indians. It's a record performance by Delhi Capitals but it's the winners that would be remembered for long. Mumbai Indians rising to the most successful team in IPL history.

First 4 overs was really game changer for DC because they lost their key players even Iyer and Pant done some good job at the end but this was really poor from their top order and at the end they was short of 20 to 25 runs which give some good advantage to MI as they also have very good batting line up so now its all end with very entertaining match and Congrats to MI for 5th trophy.

MI are champions and Rohit knows how to make it win and perform well in the finals . This quality has helped them as a unit and each players delivers when it is required . I think this time their would not be any after party due to pandemic which generally happens at their house after winning the trophy where entire staff is present .

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 11, 2020, 08:08:02 AM

Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments. Tongue

Rohit Sharma is far ahead of Virat Kohli in the t20 format. If we consider both of them as batsmen, then at present both of them are one of the best players in the world. Both played very well. I think Rohit Sharma will definitely be ahead if he is considered as a captain. He succeeded by captaining the ipl. He should be given a chance to captain the international game.

Currently in presence of Virat Kohli its not going to happen because he is already doing this job good and in Australia he is also going to play both short term formats just not available for few test matches and Rohit is already not in test team may be in near future this happen if Kohlie need rest or not available for any reason.

I also think that as long as virat kohli is there, he will be the captain in t20 format too. He is a living legend in the Indian team. As a batsman he is the best.He is also excellent as a captain. Although he is not as experienced as Dhoni. But we all have to accept that he is a good captain. I don't think there is any need to give Rohit Sharma a chance to captain as long as Kohli is performing poorly or if he does not go on a long break.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 11, 2020, 08:08:02 AM

Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments. Tongue

Rohit Sharma is far ahead of Virat Kohli in the t20 format. If we consider both of them as batsmen, then at present both of them are one of the best players in the world. Both played very well. I think Rohit Sharma will definitely be ahead if he is considered as a captain. He succeeded by captaining the ipl. He should be given a chance to captain the international game.

On one hand BCCI select team on basis of IPL performance but there is zero contest when its comes to Captaincy. BCCI believes that 1 captain should lead the national team in all 3 format, it used to make sense before but in modern cricket its tough task to ask if we consider workload of international player, hope some sense prevails in BCCI.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 11, 2020, 08:08:02 AM

Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments. Tongue

Rohit Sharma is far ahead of Virat Kohli in the t20 format. If we consider both of them as batsmen, then at present both of them are one of the best players in the world. Both played very well. I think Rohit Sharma will definitely be ahead if he is considered as a captain. He succeeded by captaining the ipl. He should be given a chance to captain the international game.

Currently in presence of Virat Kohli its not going to happen because he is already doing this job good and in Australia he is also going to play both short term formats just not available for few test matches and Rohit is already not in test team may be in near future this happen if Kohlie need rest or not available for any reason.

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Quote from: covfefe_ on November 11, 2020, 08:15:14 AM

The game was much competitive than I thought. Winning the toss and choosing to bat is an axe at owns leg in a T20 match.
Iyer and Pant did tried to bring a competitive score for Delhi Capitals but the team didn't tried anything different than what they had done in all of their losing match with Mumbai Indians. It's a record performance by Delhi Capitals but it's the winners that would be remembered for long. Mumbai Indians rising to the most successful team in IPL history.

First 4 overs was really game changer for DC because they lost their key players even Iyer and Pant done some good job at the end but this was really poor from their top order and at the end they was short of 20 to 25 runs which give some good advantage to MI as they also have very good batting line up so now its all end with very entertaining match and Congrats to MI for 5th trophy.

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The game was much competitive than I thought. Winning the toss and choosing to bat is an axe at owns leg in a T20 match.
Iyer and Pant did tried to bring a competitive score for Delhi Capitals but the team didn't tried anything different than what they had done in all of their losing match with Mumbai Indians. It's a record performance by Delhi Capitals but it's the winners that would be remembered for long. Mumbai Indians rising to the most successful team in IPL history.

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Food for thought...

Should Rohit lead the Team India in T-20 format? Dude got 5 IPL trophy under his belt and when comparing his captaincy with Virat in the T-20 format, he's miles ahead of him, not to mention Virat seems Panuti/Unlucky in the ICC tournaments. Tongue

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 11, 2020, 04:35:37 AM

Jayant Yadav bowled exceptionally well and he was getting purchase from the wicket as well and the wicket he got where Dhawan played the wrong line entirely and it was a beautiful ball and i thought MI would have gone with Bumrah for one more over and that wicket happened and he bowled an economical spell. Shreyas Iyer played well and whenever he scored runs his strike rate was not that high and that was another factor which hurt the team.

Both Iyer and Pant were in good form during the start of this season's IPL. But during the second half of the tournament, they were struggling to score runs and none of them could manage to make 50 plus scores. It was good to see them getting back to form in the final match. And regarding Bumrah, once again he proved that he's the best out there. He was the best bowler in this IPL, and that too by a distance.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on November 11, 2020, 12:35:23 AM

Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant were able to score half-centuries only because they were facing the MI spinners. Bumrah and Boult had finished their first spell, when these two came to bat. So they were mostly facing Krunal Pandya and the inexperienced Jayant Yadav. Overall, it was a very disappointing innings from DC. They had to get to a total of 180, and they fell short by a long distance.

Jayant Yadav bowled exceptionally well and he was getting purchase from the wicket as well and the wicket he got where Dhawan played the wrong line entirely and it was a beautiful ball and i thought MI would have gone with Bumrah for one more over and that wicket happened and he bowled an economical spell. Shreyas Iyer played well and whenever he scored runs his strike rate was not that high and that was another factor which hurt the team.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on November 10, 2020, 11:43:03 PM

From the first ball till the end of the match MI was in control, I had never anticipated such a bad performance by DC they were playing as if they knew they were no match for MI. Zero effort and the urge to defeat MI was displayed by DC yesterday. Except for Shreyas Iyer and Rishab Panth, none of the other batsmen were able to face MI ballers. I guess they forgot they were playing the finals.

Shreyas Iyer and Rishabh Pant were able to score half-centuries only because they were facing the MI spinners. Bumrah and Boult had finished their first spell, when these two came to bat. So they were mostly facing Krunal Pandya and the inexperienced Jayant Yadav. Overall, it was a very disappointing innings from DC. They had to get to a total of 180, and they fell short by a long distance.

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Quote from: onecall123 on November 10, 2020, 10:59:16 PM

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I was expecting a much tougher competition from DC in the finals but the MI bowlers were outstanding in picking up with the wickets and even though they were able to put on a partnership they were not able to accelerate the innings in the last five overs like they wanted and with a strong batting line up like MI it was not enough to put the pressure and DC failed to pick the wickets from the start and Rohit Sharma performed in the final after some disappointing efforts in the past few games.

Exactly, not as competitive as we have anticipated. MI dominated the complete season and along with final match. They deserve to be the champions, they have great blend of bowling and batting which was impressive. Two consecutive win for MI, but somehow the match failed to entertain us.

From the first ball till the end of the match MI was in control, I had never anticipated such a bad performance by DC they were playing as if they knew they were no match for MI. Zero effort and the urge to defeat MI was displayed by DC yesterday. Except for Shreyas Iyer and Rishab Panth, none of the other batsmen were able to face MI ballers. I guess they forgot they were playing the finals.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 10, 2020, 03:06:38 PM

I was expecting a much tougher competition from DC in the finals but the MI bowlers were outstanding in picking up with the wickets and even though they were able to put on a partnership they were not able to accelerate the innings in the last five overs like they wanted and with a strong batting line up like MI it was not enough to put the pressure and DC failed to pick the wickets from the start and Rohit Sharma performed in the final after some disappointing efforts in the past few games.

In the end, it was a very comfortable victory for Mumbai Indians. Anyway, most of us were expecting this. DC players were out of form, and after their top order collapse (they were 22/3 at one point), no one really expected them to put up any fight. Also, DC managed to score only 38 runs from the last 5 overs. Had they scored 20-25 runs more, then they would have had a chance.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 10, 2020, 03:06:38 PM

I was expecting a much tougher competition from DC in the finals but the MI bowlers were outstanding in picking up with the wickets and even though they were able to put on a partnership they were not able to accelerate the innings in the last five overs like they wanted and with a strong batting line up like MI it was not enough to put the pressure and DC failed to pick the wickets from the start and Rohit Sharma performed in the final after some disappointing efforts in the past few games.

Exactly, not as competitive as we have anticipated. MI dominated the complete season and along with final match. They deserve to be the champions, they have great blend of bowling and batting which was impressive. Two consecutive win for MI, but somehow the match failed to entertain us.

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I was expecting a much tougher competition from DC in the finals but the MI bowlers were outstanding in picking up with the wickets and even though they were able to put on a partnership they were not able to accelerate the innings in the last five overs like they wanted and with a strong batting line up like MI it was not enough to put the pressure and DC failed to pick the wickets from the start and Rohit Sharma performed in the final after some disappointing efforts in the past few games.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on November 10, 2020, 01:49:47 PM

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Mumbai Indians win their fifth IPL title, congratulations to become as 2020 IPL champion. Truly very deserving, Mumbai Indains is the strongest team in the IPL franchise so far and best combination ever. Sorry for DC, good try but next time.

The fun aspect is that DC let go of Trent Boult and MI were smart enough to grab the opportunity with both hands and ironically he is the man of the match in the final and along with Bumrah they formed the best bowling line up in the absence of Malinga and it paid off big time.

Quote from: Haunebu on November 10, 2020, 01:08:51 PM

Overall, it was one of the best seasons and was very entertaining through and through.

This was the most competitive tournament as every team had their off days and some played brilliantly and some came back and stamped their authority in the play off.

DC got the best bowling line up as well so I won't say letting Boult from their team doesn't cost them much in this season but their inexperience is the only reason for their loss in my opinion but for DC this is the best season of all so they can cherish about that later on. MI looks much stronger in overall so other teams also need to find the right combination in the upcoming seasons to get such kind of performances in their team as well.

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Mumbai Indians win their fifth IPL title, congratulations to become as 2020 IPL champion. Truly very deserving, Mumbai Indains is the strongest team in the IPL franchise so far and best combination ever. Sorry for DC, good try but next time.

The fun aspect is that DC let go of Trent Boult and MI were smart enough to grab the opportunity with both hands and ironically he is the man of the match in the final and along with Bumrah they formed the best bowling line up in the absence of Malinga and it paid off big time.

Quote from: Haunebu on November 10, 2020, 01:08:51 PM

Overall, it was one of the best seasons and was very entertaining through and through.

This was the most competitive tournament as every team had their off days and some played brilliantly and some came back and stamped their authority in the play off.

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