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Quote from: suvo05 on December 12, 2019, 07:23:36 AM

Another concern is Risav Pant, India should find the replacement for him. I don't think that Dhoni is going to play in the T20 worldcup.

I agree that Pant needs to be replaced soon though I do not agree that Dhoni won't return since the upcoming T-20 World Cup could be his final tournament.

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 12, 2019, 11:22:51 PM

The batsmen have got used to Ashwin's variations and he is struggling abroad in all formats. And at home he needs turning tracks to take wickets. Now the other spinners such as Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal are being preferred because of their ability to perform even on hostile tracks. But the Indian pacers have excelled in all sort of tracks. Bumrah is currently being regarded as one of the top bowlers in the world right now and Mohammad Shami and Ishant Sharma are not too far behind.

Ashwin is excelling in the T-20 format these days since I hear stories of him performing extremely well in small T-20 leagues these days which is why I fail to see why he shouldn't be brought back into the squad since Kuldeep and Chahal are out of form these days.

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In T20 even the best bowlers can go for plenty of runs, and you can't really blame them. If it is 90% skill and 10% luck in the ODI format, in T20 format it is 50% luck and 50% skill. So if a batsmen is lucky on a given day, he may smash the best T20 bowler available for more than 20 runs in an over. qne unfortunately none of the Indian bowlers can be considered as T20 specialists.

The bowlers in T20 has to be on point with all the deliveries if not they will be taken apart, Ashwin was a specialist in T20 and that is how he got national recognition as he was performing well in the IPL as an opening bowler but i am not sure what happened to him as he is not even in the T20 set up of things while he is only playing Test cricket, Bumrah is a good bowler in all format because of his capability to bowl stump to stump line, the world cricket has a few T20 specialist and earlier there was Umar Gul who shined really well.

The batsmen have got used to Ashwin's variations and he is struggling abroad in all formats. And at home he needs turning tracks to take wickets. Now the other spinners such as Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal are being preferred because of their ability to perform even on hostile tracks. But the Indian pacers have excelled in all sort of tracks. Bumrah is currently being regarded as one of the top bowlers in the world right now and Mohammad Shami and Ishant Sharma are not too far behind.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 12, 2019, 09:26:28 AM

In T20 even the best bowlers can go for plenty of runs, and you can't really blame them. If it is 90% skill and 10% luck in the ODI format, in T20 format it is 50% luck and 50% skill. So if a batsmen is lucky on a given day, he may smash the best T20 bowler available for more than 20 runs in an over. qne unfortunately none of the Indian bowlers can be considered as T20 specialists.

The bowlers in T20 has to be on point with all the deliveries if not they will be taken apart, Ashwin was a specialist in T20 and that is how he got national recognition as he was performing well in the IPL as an opening bowler but i am not sure what happened to him as he is not even in the T20 set up of things while he is only playing Test cricket, Bumrah is a good bowler in all format because of his capability to bowl stump to stump line, the world cricket has a few T20 specialist and earlier there was Umar Gul who shined really well.

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India always had an issue with the bowling department. They never had good strike bowlers as in India kids prefer to bat more than bowl. You will always find plenty of spinners but rarely you will find a good medium pacer or a fast bowler. I think they should give more chance to Md Shammi.

I am sure you are talking about your own experience when you were a kid that you prefer to bat rather than to bowl and so does majority of the kids but when you look at the current Indian team they have the best bowling line up, in T20 they might go for runs and they have the batsman to back the bowlers and the last match against West Indies was a prime example.

In T20 even the best bowlers can go for plenty of runs, and you can't really blame them. If it is 90% skill and 10% luck in the ODI format, in T20 format it is 50% luck and 50% skill. So if a batsmen is lucky on a given day, he may smash the best T20 bowler available for more than 20 runs in an over. qne unfortunately none of the Indian bowlers can be considered as T20 specialists.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 12, 2019, 07:46:36 AM

India always had an issue with the bowling department. They never had good strike bowlers as in India kids prefer to bat more than bowl. You will always find plenty of spinners but rarely you will find a good medium pacer or a fast bowler. I think they should give more chance to Md Shammi.

I am sure you are talking about your own experience when you were a kid that you prefer to bat rather than to bowl and so does majority of the kids but when you look at the current Indian team they have the best bowling line up, in T20 they might go for runs and they have the batsman to back the bowlers and the last match against West Indies was a prime example.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 12, 2019, 07:46:36 AM

India always had an issue with the bowling department. They never had good strike bowlers as in India kids prefer to bat more than bowl. You will always find plenty of spinners but rarely you will find a good medium pacer or a fast bowler. I think they should give more chance to Md Shammi.

I can't agree with your post. India right now has one of the strongest bowling attacks for any of the teams, and the bowlers have performed even in the absence of Jasprit Bumrah. Don't you remember what happened when South Africa visited India? The maximum number of wickets were taken by Mohammad Shami, Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav.

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It only seem liked a chance for West Indies in this series because we don't had some regular bowlers. Bowlers actually really leaked runs but our batsman kinda mended that. Eventually India won and that's what counts but if it were someone like Australia or England then we don't have a chance with such bowling unit but I think India are also not gonna keep the same lineup against them as well.

I placed a small bet on team India to win because I was confident they would not loose the series, but I became nervous when they were asked to bat as I felt team India may not be able to post a competitive total. However India’s batman rallied and posted a monstrous total, which was always going to be difficult to chase even for the West Indies hard hitters. @Avirunes you’re correct for teams like Australia and England we will have to field a stronger team, but this series gave lots of exposure to other players too which is required to help them grow in international cricket.

Yeah chasing would have been much more nice actually but it was sure in minds of West Indies side as well. India's opening order batsman did well and we posted a very strong total. Though West Indies also fought back but wasn't enough to win the match for them.

Still I would have placed a small bet even if they had batted first as well since West Indies had a chance like I said earlier.

Without Bhumra the bolling attack does not seem that much great. The batting card is great but India should look at the bowling department. Even the spinners are having difficulty to bowl as well. Another concern is Risav Pant, India should find the replacement for him. I don't think that Dhoni is going to play in the T20 worldcup.

India always had an issue with the bowling department. They never had good strike bowlers as in India kids prefer to bat more than bowl. You will always find plenty of spinners but rarely you will find a good medium pacer or a fast bowler. I think they should give more chance to Md Shammi.

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It only seem liked a chance for West Indies in this series because we don't had some regular bowlers. Bowlers actually really leaked runs but our batsman kinda mended that. Eventually India won and that's what counts but if it were someone like Australia or England then we don't have a chance with such bowling unit but I think India are also not gonna keep the same lineup against them as well.

I placed a small bet on team India to win because I was confident they would not loose the series, but I became nervous when they were asked to bat as I felt team India may not be able to post a competitive total. However India’s batman rallied and posted a monstrous total, which was always going to be difficult to chase even for the West Indies hard hitters. @Avirunes you’re correct for teams like Australia and England we will have to field a stronger team, but this series gave lots of exposure to other players too which is required to help them grow in international cricket.

Yeah chasing would have been much more nice actually but it was sure in minds of West Indies side as well. India's opening order batsman did well and we posted a very strong total. Though West Indies also fought back but wasn't enough to win the match for them.

Still I would have placed a small bet even if they had batted first as well since West Indies had a chance like I said earlier.

Without Bhumra the bolling attack does not seem that much great. The batting card is great but India should look at the bowling department. Even the spinners are having difficulty to bowl as well. Another concern is Risav Pant, India should find the replacement for him. I don't think that Dhoni is going to play in the T20 worldcup.

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Quote from: Avirunes on December 11, 2019, 10:42:06 PM

It only seem liked a chance for West Indies in this series because we don't had some regular bowlers. Bowlers actually really leaked runs but our batsman kinda mended that. Eventually India won and that's what counts but if it were someone like Australia or England then we don't have a chance with such bowling unit but I think India are also not gonna keep the same lineup against them as well.

I placed a small bet on team India to win because I was confident they would not loose the series, but I became nervous when they were asked to bat as I felt team India may not be able to post a competitive total. However India’s batman rallied and posted a monstrous total, which was always going to be difficult to chase even for the West Indies hard hitters. @Avirunes you’re correct for teams like Australia and England we will have to field a stronger team, but this series gave lots of exposure to other players too which is required to help them grow in international cricket.

Yeah chasing would have been much more nice actually but it was sure in minds of West Indies side as well. India's opening order batsman did well and we posted a very strong total. Though West Indies also fought back but wasn't enough to win the match for them.

Still I would have placed a small bet even if they had batted first as well since West Indies had a chance like I said earlier.

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West Indies lost their third wicket and it was a great catch by Dube.

West Indies lost 3 quick wickets but Hetmyer and Pollard are smashing the bowlers around the ground and they are dealing in sixes and fours and they are keeping up the run rate now and it is interesting how long they can continue to score like this as the total to chase is really huge and one more wicket and it will be difficult for them to chase but for cricket fans enjoy the treat as ball is flying all over the ground.

This time WI could not match the Indian batting and could not chase the huge score of 241 which is quite big to chase in T20. Indian batsman and bowlers both did excellent job and Kohli quickfire 90 made more difference to the game .

Yes Kohli has done great finish at the end he scored 70 runs for 29 balls with 7 6s and 4 4s it will help to 241 runs but the partnership between Rohit and Rahul excellent and bowler also done the excellent job to take quick wickets in first 6 overs.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on December 11, 2019, 10:46:51 AM

West Indies lost their third wicket and it was a great catch by Dube.

West Indies lost 3 quick wickets but Hetmyer and Pollard are smashing the bowlers around the ground and they are dealing in sixes and fours and they are keeping up the run rate now and it is interesting how long they can continue to score like this as the total to chase is really huge and one more wicket and it will be difficult for them to chase but for cricket fans enjoy the treat as ball is flying all over the ground.

This time WI could not match the Indian batting and could not chase the huge score of 241 which is quite big to chase in T20. Indian batsman and bowlers both did excellent job and Kohli quickfire 90 made more difference to the game .

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Quote from: Avirunes on December 11, 2019, 10:42:06 PM

It only seem liked a chance for West Indies in this series because we don't had some regular bowlers. Bowlers actually really leaked runs but our batsman kinda mended that. Eventually India won and that's what counts but if it were someone like Australia or England then we don't have a chance with such bowling unit but I think India are also not gonna keep the same lineup against them as well.

I placed a small bet on team India to win because I was confident they would not loose the series, but I became nervous when they were asked to bat as I felt team India may not be able to post a competitive total. However India’s batman rallied and posted a monstrous total, which was always going to be difficult to chase even for the West Indies hard hitters. @Avirunes you’re correct for teams like Australia and England we will have to field a stronger team, but this series gave lots of exposure to other players too which is required to help them grow in international cricket.

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It only seem liked a chance for West Indies in this series because we don't had some regular bowlers. Bowlers actually really leaked runs but our batsman kinda mended that. Eventually India won and that's what counts but if it were someone like Australia or England then we don't have a chance with such bowling unit but I think India are also not gonna keep the same lineup against them as well.

Overall it was a good series. Can't wait for the entertainment packed in the ODI series now.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 11, 2019, 02:30:13 PM

It was an impossible task to start and West Indies does not have their best team in this format and even if they had the best team it is not an easy task to chase 241 runs but Kieron Pollard and Shimron Hetmyer played a really good innings and it was evident that they will struggle under pressure to keep up the run rate and after that partnership they kept on loosing wickets trying to increase the run rate, the Indian top order played really well to get to a score like this and Shami bowled really well and glad to see him in the team in the decider.

Just admit it. West Indies is several levels below India and in reality it was a David vs Goliath match. Some of the star West Indian batsmen are not playing in this series, but all of their mainstream bowlers were present in the squad (Sheldon Cottrell, Jason Holder, Khary Pierre and Kesrick Williams). Even if they had players such as Andre Russell and Andre Fletcher, I don't think that the outcome could have been any different, given the huge total that India managed to build.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 11, 2019, 01:27:13 PM

Not much can be done when the required run rate is more than 12 runs per over. And West Indies had the worst start that any one could imagine. They were 3/17 after 3.1 overs, with Brandon King, Lendl Simmons and Nicholas Pooran back at the pavillion. And that was when Kieron Pollard joined Shimron Hetmyer at the crease and stabilized the innings.

It was an impossible task to start and West Indies does not have their best team in this format and even if they had the best team it is not an easy task to chase 241 runs but Kieron Pollard and Shimron Hetmyer played a really good innings and it was evident that they will struggle under pressure to keep up the run rate and after that partnership they kept on loosing wickets trying to increase the run rate, the Indian top order played really well to get to a score like this and Shami bowled really well and glad to see him in the team in the decider.

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Quote from: ubercool on December 11, 2019, 12:43:28 PM

Pollard's wicket was the turning point of the match as there was still a chance when he was hitting those massive sixes, good thing is that even after seeing 240 target, West Indies didn't hesitate to attack from the 1st over. India was the better team today and won the series.

Not much can be done when the required run rate is more than 12 runs per over. And West Indies had the worst start that any one could imagine. They were 3/17 after 3.1 overs, with Brandon King, Lendl Simmons and Nicholas Pooran back at the pavillion. And that was when Kieron Pollard joined Shimron Hetmyer at the crease and stabilized the innings.

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Quote from: ubercool on December 11, 2019, 12:43:28 PM

Pollard's wicket was the turning point of the match as there was still a chance when he was hitting those massive sixes, good thing is that even after seeing 240 target, West Indies didn't hesitate to attack from the 1st over. India was the better team today and won the series.

Bolded words are the key point,yes better team will win the match and trophy no matter if they lacks better players because cricket is not an individual game its a team effort so everyone have to perform to win the match.Kohli turns his anger to runs which is quite interesting to watch after that kind of run scored I knew west indies will fall short of much and that is actually happened at the end.

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Pollard's wicket was the turning point of the match as there was still a chance when he was hitting those massive sixes, good thing is that even after seeing 240 target, West Indies didn't hesitate to attack from the 1st over. India was the better team today and won the series.

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They lost the match by a massive margin (67 runs). It is equivalent to losing an ODI match by more than 100 runs. Throughout the series, the West Indies bowlers looked outclassed. A lot was said about Jason Holder and Hayden Walsh, but both these bowlers fared miserably. Only Sheldon Cottrell could contain the Indian batsmen to an extent, but he was also smashed all around the ground during the 3rd match.

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