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Quote from: Strongkored on March 23, 2023, 07:47:44 AM

Quote from: bitbollo on March 23, 2023, 06:12:02 AM

The biggest surprises that I have seen was yesterday in the match Murray vs Lajovic.

I thought Murray would be able to easily beat Lajovic but this was quite surprising especially he lost in straight sets, didn't see the match so don't know exactly how he played but usually Murray will be able to go at least 2-3 rounds before finally meeting a tougher opponent and lose

Yes, I was also very surprised that Murray did not win. Have not watch the match either but was a bit surprised that he lost in the first round. I would be interested to know what happened.

Actually the match between Ruusuvuori and Krajinovic was supposed to start right away. But that match was cancelled. So Ruusuvuori will play against Bautista tomorrow.
Another interesting match could be Lehečka against Coria. Otherwise the matches that interest me more will start tomorrow.

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Quote from: aoluain on March 21, 2023, 02:33:15 AM

In the cases of Alcaraz, Medvedev and Swiatek, would you go close to "all in" with whatever
wagers you plan on doing?

I mean all three should make it to at least the quarter finals...

The number one ranked tennis player and also the first seed at the Miami Open Iga Swiatek has withdrawn after a rib injury which she said was quite disturbing https://www.wtatennis.com/news/3118945/defending-champion-swiatek-withdraws-from-miami
With this news, must choose another player who is stable enough to be able to progress to at least the quarterfinals, Sinner could be on the list because he's looked good so far, C. Ruud and Tsitsipas haven't been very convincing so far so it's better not to put them in the betting list.

Quote from: bitbollo on March 23, 2023, 06:12:02 AM

The biggest surprises that I have seen was yesterday in the match Murray vs Lajovic.

I thought Murray would be able to easily beat Lajovic but this was quite surprising especially he lost in straight sets, didn't see the match so don't know exactly how he played but usually Murray will be able to go at least 2-3 rounds before finally meeting a tougher opponent and lose

L. Sonego vs D. Thiem so far after recovering from injury Thiem has not been able to do many things especially as a non-seeded player in the draw which will be quite a burden for him because he often directly meets tough opponents and this time it is still in doubt whether he can beat Sonego and keep going.

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well, Alcaraz in a fit condition is one of the best player of the seed and clear impossible to be beat. But let's see, when top players are playing is not uncommon to see some surprises.

The biggest surprises that I have seen was yesterday in the match Murray vs Lajovic.
Also Djere seems able to fight at good level against Sinner (previous match he was winner...)

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^
Disappointing from Teichmann, she got bagel'd in the first set. I thought she would do good
things this year but it hasnt started that way.

What did you expect was gonna happen in this match? Muchova is one of the girls in best form on the whole tour and I wouldn't be surprised to see her go far in Miami. I will probably bet on her all the way. Did not expect 6:0 in first set but I did expect a clean 2:0 win and covering of 4.5 handicap. Since it is easy to talk after the match I'll add the proof as well Grin

like yourself, didnt expect such a poor result from her, only winning 2 games, very poor.

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I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Different times - when Đoković started you had titans such as Federer and Nadal in their prime, players like Murray in the mix as well.
Top 10 were del Potro and Wawrinka, players that could beat you any day of the week.

Currently when I look at the top 10, other than Alcaraz there isn't a player who I can see constantly challenging for titles.

That's actually what I meant to say. Now only looking at the time Alcaraz seems to have left to also collect some easy number 1 weeks, it probably comes down to his health only. Unless there is another rising star on the horizon that we can't see yet. His level is insane at the age of 19 and even though when Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev etc. are all great players, they are not his level.

I agree, Alcaraz seems to have all the tools at his disposal to be No.1 for a long time,
the only caveat is staying injury free.

and ATM based on his performance at Indian Wells there is nobody at his level currently.
I definitely think Medvedev is better than the result in that final portrays.

Medvedev has just won 3 titles in a row before Indian Wells and he's 27 (not that young anymore huh?) vs 19yo Alcaraz! Medvedev needs a good rest right now. The problem is that clay season is right around the corner. But if the surface is fast enough (US Open?) I'm sure he'll be able to give Alcaraz a fight!

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Quote from: Trofo on March 22, 2023, 03:58:34 PM

Quote from: aoluain on March 22, 2023, 01:58:40 PM

^
Disappointing from Teichmann, she got bagel'd in the first set. I thought she would do good
things this year but it hasnt started that way.

What did you expect was gonna happen in this match? Muchova is one of the girls in best form on the whole tour and I wouldn't be surprised to see her go far in Miami. I will probably bet on her all the way. Did not expect 6:0 in first set but I did expect a clean 2:0 win and covering of 4.5 handicap. Since it is easy to talk after the match I'll add the proof as well Grin

like yourself, didnt expect such a poor result from her, only winning 2 games, very poor.

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I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Different times - when Đoković started you had titans such as Federer and Nadal in their prime, players like Murray in the mix as well.
Top 10 were del Potro and Wawrinka, players that could beat you any day of the week.

Currently when I look at the top 10, other than Alcaraz there isn't a player who I can see constantly challenging for titles.

That's actually what I meant to say. Now only looking at the time Alcaraz seems to have left to also collect some easy number 1 weeks, it probably comes down to his health only. Unless there is another rising star on the horizon that we can't see yet. His level is insane at the age of 19 and even though when Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev etc. are all great players, they are not his level.

I agree, Alcaraz seems to have all the tools at his disposal to be No.1 for a long time,
the only caveat is staying injury free.

and ATM based on his performance at Indian Wells there is nobody at his level currently.
I definitely think Medvedev is better than the result in that final portrays.

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Quote from: Joca97 on March 22, 2023, 04:06:37 PM

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I have the feeling that Alcaraz, despite his age, is already much further in tennis than the other players of his generation. He just has a lot of talent. That also explains his position and recent tournament victory. It will be very difficult to beat this player in the future. I don't see many other players besides Djokovic who can beat him. Djokovic is of course still the very best at the moment, but things could change soon. And on clay Alcaraz might be better at the moment. The question is where Nadal is at the moment, could he show his top form in this edition of the French open? Then we could see great matches between Alcaraz and Nadal.

Alcaraz will dominate the stage after Djokovic retires for sure. It wont be like in the period when we had the big three. Medvedev and Tsitsipas will cause him problems but i think that he will be close to some of the records that the big three made for sure. The only problem for Alcaraz is Djokovic

Alcaraz will break more records in his career. Only thing he needs to give importance is proper rest and fitness. At his age giving hard competence is simple, and he needs to have this consistency for long. See the legends, they're into tennis for more than a decade turning pro. For now Djokovic is the only contender he finds difficult in winning. Over time surely he'll start winning more matches against him.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 22, 2023, 07:43:39 AM

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I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Different times - when Đoković started you had titans such as Federer and Nadal in their prime, players like Murray in the mix as well.
Top 10 were del Potro and Wawrinka, players that could beat you any day of the week.

Currently when I look at the top 10, other than Alcaraz there isn't a player who I can see constantly challenging for titles.

That's actually what I meant to say. Now only looking at the time Alcaraz seems to have left to also collect some easy number 1 weeks, it probably comes down to his health only. Unless there is another rising star on the horizon that we can't see yet. His level is insane at the age of 19 and even though when Medvedev, Tsitsipas, Zverev etc. are all great players, they are not his level.

This also shows how much fun it is to have several titans in the mix.

The battles between the big three or also Murray, Wawrinka and del Potro were addictive. I didn't even watch tennis very much until I saw such an insane match for the first time. Hopefully we'll soon see some serious competition for Alcaraz.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on March 22, 2023, 04:01:23 PM

I have the feeling that Alcaraz, despite his age, is already much further in tennis than the other players of his generation. He just has a lot of talent. That also explains his position and recent tournament victory. It will be very difficult to beat this player in the future. I don't see many other players besides Djokovic who can beat him. Djokovic is of course still the very best at the moment, but things could change soon. And on clay Alcaraz might be better at the moment. The question is where Nadal is at the moment, could he show his top form in this edition of the French open? Then we could see great matches between Alcaraz and Nadal.

Alcaraz will dominate the stage after Djokovic retires for sure. It wont be like in the period when we had the big three. Medvedev and Tsitsipas will cause him problems but i think that he will be close to some of the records that the big three made for sure. The only problem for Alcaraz is Djokovic

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I have the feeling that Alcaraz, despite his age, is already much further in tennis than the other players of his generation. He just has a lot of talent. That also explains his position and recent tournament victory. It will be very difficult to beat this player in the future. I don't see many other players besides Djokovic who can beat him. Djokovic is of course still the very best at the moment, but things could change soon. And on clay Alcaraz might be better at the moment. The question is where Nadal is at the moment, could he show his top form in this edition of the French open? Then we could see great matches between Alcaraz and Nadal.

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Quote from: aoluain on March 22, 2023, 01:58:40 PM

^
Disappointing from Teichmann, she got bagel'd in the first set. I thought she would do good
things this year but it hasnt started that way.

What did you expect was gonna happen in this match? Muchova is one of the girls in best form on the whole tour and I wouldn't be surprised to see her go far in Miami. I will probably bet on her all the way. Did not expect 6:0 in first set but I did expect a clean 2:0 win and covering of 4.5 handicap. Since it is easy to talk after the match I'll add the proof as well Grin

Pissed at myself for only using free bet on this one.

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I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Different times - when Đoković started you had titans such as Federer and Nadal in their prime, players like Murray in the mix as well.
Top 10 were del Potro and Wawrinka, players that could beat you any day of the week.

Currently when I look at the top 10, other than Alcaraz there isn't a player who I can see constantly challenging for titles.

Here I agreed you about this all now we already lost many top ranked players and things are completely different with mostly players are playing with inconsistency even few months back we have few players those were going to lead from front and have chance to replace these three big, but now they are not near this quality with injuries and their performance are also not as we were expecting same can happen here even currently Alcaraz is having the best quality and still can do things for long run but for this all he needs to be had better body language and fitness as well which will give him success for the long run.

Tsitsipas, Rublev and Medvedev all are on decline as well, even these all were looking for the better and impressive future of this game but have no near this all.

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Disappointing from Teichmann, she got bagel'd in the first set. I thought she would do good
things this year but it hasnt started that way.

Disappointing from Raducanu too, she just doesnt seem to be progressing.

O am looking forward to see how Fernandez does against Tsurenko later.

On the ATP side I have a bet on Murray to come through to the next round, he does quite
well in the early rounds but as the competition progresses and the talent is stronger he can struggle.

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Miami WTA. Watched two very exciting matches yesterday - 15 year old Czech girl Brenda Fruhvirtova lost to Xiyu Wang 0:6, 5:7 (Wang was leading 6:0, 3:0), and 17 year old Victoria Jimenez Kasintseva lost to Anna Kalinskaya 4:6, 2:6. These girls are the future of tennis, we are likely to see them on tour in the years to come.

Another thriller was played by Camila Giorgi and Kaia Kanepi. These ladies managed to play three tie-breaks in three sets: 7:6, 6:7, 7:6.

Anyway, matches to watch out for in today's order of play:

WTA: Andreescu v Raducanu, Teichmann v Muchova, Noskova v Bronzetti
ATP: Murray v Lajovic

There are very few big names but these matches look promising. Cool

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Quote from: shogun47 on March 21, 2023, 02:36:14 PM

I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Different times - when Đoković started you had titans such as Federer and Nadal in their prime, players like Murray in the mix as well.
Top 10 were del Potro and Wawrinka, players that could beat you any day of the week.

Currently when I look at the top 10, other than Alcaraz there isn't a player who I can see constantly challenging for titles.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 21, 2023, 05:06:08 AM

Yep, healthy Alcaraz is basically a favorite to win every tournament he goes to this year.
He plays well on all surfaces - he just breezed through Medvedev on hard.

Considering how he's playing, he's my favorite against Đoković as well. Shame that Novak had to miss both IW and Miami.

I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Now Medvedev was also very weak against him in Indian Wells and that is probably going to be one of the major differences between Alcaraz and his strongest competitors in the long run. At one tournament Medvedev pays solid tennis, and he did in this tournament as well of course, but there seemed to be a crash in his performance that is hard to be explained. You can lose against Alcaraz, but there wasn't much of a fight from Medvedev. The game took 67 minutes.

Yea I was shocked too at how ineffective Medvedev was against Alcaraz.

He tweeted that the court was slow?

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To every winning-streak comes an end. Congrats @carlosalcaraz on winning the @BNPPARIBASOPEN! Too good today. I look forward to coming back next year to Indian wells👍 (to a faster court🤣😝). Thank you for a wonderful two weeks.

If it was slow it was also slow for Alcaraz so he needs to be able to deal with that.
I am looking forward to see how each play on Miami and hopefully we get a rematch
between the two...

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 21, 2023, 05:06:08 AM

Yep, healthy Alcaraz is basically a favorite to win every tournament he goes to this year.
He plays well on all surfaces - he just breezed through Medvedev on hard.

Considering how he's playing, he's my favorite against Đoković as well. Shame that Novak had to miss both IW and Miami.

I would also not be surprised if Alcaraz becomes the player who is going to blast through Djokovic's number 1 weeks record. Djokovic was 24 years old when he first became number 1. I know that is still a very long way to go and yes, it will be a lot about his health as well. But the way he competes and also the rest of the competition seems to be inferior.

Now Medvedev was also very weak against him in Indian Wells and that is probably going to be one of the major differences between Alcaraz and his strongest competitors in the long run. At one tournament Medvedev pays solid tennis, and he did in this tournament as well of course, but there seemed to be a crash in his performance that is hard to be explained. You can lose against Alcaraz, but there wasn't much of a fight from Medvedev. The game took 67 minutes.

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Yep, healthy Alcaraz is basically a favorite to win every tournament he goes to this year.
He plays well on all surfaces - he just breezed through Medvedev on hard.

Considering how he's playing, he's my favorite against Đoković as well. Shame that Novak had to miss both IW and Miami.

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I did not expect Alcaraz to win at Indian Wells. And then in two sets and in only 70 minutes. It was really a perfect tournament and a perfect final for him. Now it is time for him to defend his title in Miami.
It is important for him that he does not get injured. Unfortunately he is very susceptible to injuries. If he stays fit and healthy he will definitely play for the title in Paris.

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The tournament at Miami has already started, the top seeded players on both the ATP
and WTA dont play until Thursday.

In the cases of Alcaraz, Medvedev and Swiatek, would you go close to "all in" with whatever
wagers you plan on doing?

I mean all three should make it to at least the quarter finals...

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Quote from: cryptofrka on March 20, 2023, 02:01:55 AM

After easily defeating Sinner, Alcaraz tore through Medvedev as well. He hasn't lost a single set in Indian Wells, making him the strongest favorite to win in Miami as well.

If Đoković does not stop him this season, I feel that nothing will.

That's big from Alcaraz to win in the direct sets. Even if Djokovic have played Indian Wells the match could've been favoured the young Alcaraz. Expected the match atleast to the level of Semifinals played against Tiafoe where the first set reached 7-5 and the second set went to 7⁷6⁴. Here match looks like completely one sided. As said Djokovic needs to stop, if not he's gonna be unstoppable.

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