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Quote from: bitbollo on July 05, 2022, 09:22:56 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on July 05, 2022, 09:13:13 AM

Yes, big upset brewing. Sinner has just taken the second set... pretty easily as it happens, 6-2.
Sinner is playing well, but at the same time, Djokovic just doesn't really look like the Djokovic we know. Of course we can't write him off, even from 2 sets down.
In the past, in this situation, I'd still back Djokovic to win. But today, he just doesn't look like he's fully there, whether it's fitness or what, maybe nursing an injury, I don't know.
Djokovic normally has answers to every problem he faces, today he doesn't. He doesn't even seem that bothered.

I'm not at all surprised either way.
Djokovic played a "fluctuating" season losing matches that on paper might seem within his reach (like those immediately after the Australian Open).
Let's see if Sinner is able to close at third set, we are at a fundamental moment

Sinner after winning the first two sets have lost the next two sets. Djokovic has shown his class and proved that he can level the match even with two sets down.
The match is totally level now and it can go anyone's way from on. Personally, i wish Djokovic to win this last set and move ahead in this tournament. After all, he is the favorite to win the title.

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Loads of drama in men's don't you just love it when it goes all the way?

Time for me to tune out but Djokovic's comeback (I'm not jinxing it am I?) should make for good reading later.

Quote from: casperBGD on July 05, 2022, 08:32:22 AM

just took Djokovic @1.42, seems as value, expected to lose one set (not first one, but it is still for first set losing as well)
Sinner has momentum, serving for first set, and playing well, but it is a long match, best-of-5, and he needs a lot of experience to challenge Djoko, will be interesting dough

Yup, soon as Sinner won first set I took a live one on Djoko @1.46. I know I already have an outright on him but it looked really good value too for me.

Of course, had I seen him at 2 sets down I'd have bet no matter what -- should have been at least 3/1 eh?

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 05, 2022, 09:27:18 AM

Why did the odds for Nadal go up to 1.34? Is he really going to lose?

With the way the Djokovic match is going, Nadal is more likely to be the favourite for the tournament. Nadal started the tournament with zero practice on grass and fresh back from surgery... it took him a couple of matches to really get into his stride, but he's getting stronger each round and is looking in quite ominous form at the moment.

Meanwhile on Centre... the inevitable fightback is beginning, Djokovic now a break up in the third. But he's shown a lot of vulnerability in this match, and the other big names (well, Nadal, there aren't any other big names left!) will be taking notice.

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Quote from: romero121 on July 05, 2022, 09:10:24 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 05, 2022, 09:00:17 AM

Didn't want to bet in this game as it is already included in two other multi bets but I think I caught the right moment:

A bet on Djokovic to win with odds of 1.94 is good in any situation Roll Eyes

At least it's better than I thought to bet massively at 1.16 odds. Maybe the odds are even better if he loses the first set, but I'm not likely to increase the risk.

Right now the odds could've increased even higher than @1.94, because Sinner wins the second set 6-2. I checked with Stake and the betting on the match have got odds of Novak Djokovic @2.35 and Sinner @1.55

Of course, I didn’t think that Djokovic would let me down, but sooner or later it had to happen. At the moment, to be honest, a 1.65 Sinner bet looks like obvious value, but I'm done with betting for today (losing Djokovic burns my two more multis).
Why did the odds for Nadal go up to 1.34? Is he really going to lose?

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Quote from: Cnut237 on July 05, 2022, 09:13:13 AM

Yes, big upset brewing. Sinner has just taken the second set... pretty easily as it happens, 6-2.
Sinner is playing well, but at the same time, Djokovic just doesn't really look like the Djokovic we know. Of course we can't write him off, even from 2 sets down.
In the past, in this situation, I'd still back Djokovic to win. But today, he just doesn't look like he's fully there, whether it's fitness or what, maybe nursing an injury, I don't know.
Djokovic normally has answers to every problem he faces, today he doesn't. He doesn't even seem that bothered.

I'm not at all surprised either way.
Djokovic played a "fluctuating" season losing matches that on paper might seem within his reach (like those immediately after the Australian Open).
Let's see if Sinner is able to close at third set, we are at a fundamental moment

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Yes, big upset brewing. Sinner has just taken the second set... pretty easily as it happens, 6-2.
Sinner is playing well, but at the same time, Djokovic just doesn't really look like the Djokovic we know. Of course we can't write him off, even from 2 sets down.
In the past, in this situation, I'd still back Djokovic to win. But today, he just doesn't look like he's fully there, whether it's fitness or what, maybe nursing an injury, I don't know.
Djokovic normally has answers to every problem he faces, today he doesn't. He doesn't even seem that bothered.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 05, 2022, 09:00:17 AM

Didn't want to bet in this game as it is already included in two other multi bets but I think I caught the right moment:

A bet on Djokovic to win with odds of 1.94 is good in any situation Roll Eyes

At least it's better than I thought to bet massively at 1.16 odds. Maybe the odds are even better if he loses the first set, but I'm not likely to increase the risk.

Right now the odds could've increased even higher than @1.94, because Sinner wins the second set 6-2. I checked with Stake and the betting on the match have got odds of Novak Djokovic @2.35 and Sinner @1.55 and there were more prediction stating that Novak Djokovic will easily reach the finals. For now things were getting to be tough for him.

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Didn't want to bet in this game as it is already included in two other multi bets but I think I caught the right moment:

A bet on Djokovic to win with odds of 1.94 is good in any situation Roll Eyes

At least it's better than I thought to bet massively at 1.16 odds. Maybe the odds are even better if he loses the first set, but I'm not likely to increase the risk.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 05, 2022, 08:17:32 AM

-snip

Was actually going to do the same now against Djoko to sort of squeeze out some value but he might actually lose this first set... Sinner's really grinding it out!

just took Djokovic @1.42, seems as value, expected to lose one set (not first one, but it is still for first set losing as well)
Sinner has momentum, serving for first set, and playing well, but it is a long match, best-of-5, and he needs a lot of experience to challenge Djoko, will be interesting dough

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 04, 2022, 02:25:01 PM

man, congrats on Garin, he probably saw that I was counting him out, and strike back to enter QF with Kyrgios, that also played fifth setter to reach QF
it is interesting statistics that Kyrgios played six or seven fifth setters on Wimbledon in career, and won all of them, so entering fifth set with Kyrgios is hardly desirable here

Fritz is in QF, waiting for Nadal, that is leading 0:2 against Van Z

Small win, but yeah, must have been exciting for the guy, and I fancy his chances against Kyrgios too -- time for streaks to end and records to fall, right?

I did take a 15/1 against Nadal last night after first set so lost that one, but think I might also back Fritz the same way (live if down the first set).

Was actually going to do the same now against Djoko to sort of squeeze out some value but he might actually lose this first set... Sinner's really grinding it out!

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 05, 2022, 06:21:05 AM

I'm jumping on the Djokovic bandwagon here, so I put a handicap bet -6.5, at 1.87 against Jannik. I might go for the over/under bet later, but for now that is the bet that I already put on.

I know that Sinner just 'upset' Alcaraz in 4 sets. So I wouldn't be surprised if Djokovic drop another set as well, but I think Djokovic can cover that spread even in a 4 or 5 set win.

Sounds like a good bet. that odds for -5.5 and I'd have jumped the gun. I expect Djoker to win the match in 4 sets. How closely contested? I guess we'll have to wait and find out.

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I'm jumping on the Djokovic bandwagon here, so I put a handicap bet -6.5, at 1.87 against Jannik. I might go for the over/under bet later, but for now that is the bet that I already put on.

I know that Sinner just 'upset' Alcaraz in 4 sets. So I wouldn't be surprised if Djokovic drop another set as well, but I think Djokovic can cover that spread even in a 4 or 5 set win.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 05, 2022, 05:14:02 AM

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Quote from: bct_ail on July 05, 2022, 04:31:57 AM

I'm curious to see if Kyrgios nerves will hold. He could handle himself against Nakashima, but the way he behaved in the match against Tsitsipas was quite inappropriate from a human point of view. If he would just concentrate on his game, he would certainly be even better. But some people never change.

Kyrgios is a player who uses the technique of provocation to annoy the opponent and create "tension" in the match. he wouldn't surprise me so much if he still had this attitude even versus Garin.

I am really curious to see the match of Sinner today. I think he could win at least a set against Djokovic and maybe try for the big jackpot Wink

@bitbollo Kyrgios is an interesting character, because he uses each and every emotion possible to get into the opponent’s head and now he’s also done the unthinkable by breaking the rigid dress code at Wimbledon. Lastly it’ll be interesting to see if he can make it to semis or even the finals, because I’m curious to see if he’ll break the dress code again and what will he do next to rile up his opponent.

I think that at a certain level some "social etiquette" of behavior is the bare minimum. we are talking about a public figure, who in his career will be able to cash in as much as a small company! I think this attitude is intentional, and at times even exaggerated

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Quote from: Juggy777 on July 05, 2022, 05:14:02 AM

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Quote from: bct_ail on July 05, 2022, 04:31:57 AM

I'm curious to see if Kyrgios nerves will hold. He could handle himself against Nakashima, but the way he behaved in the match against Tsitsipas was quite inappropriate from a human point of view. If he would just concentrate on his game, he would certainly be even better. But some people never change.

Kyrgios is a player who uses the technique of provocation to annoy the opponent and create "tension" in the match. he wouldn't surprise me so much if he still had this attitude even versus Garin.

I am really curious to see the match of Sinner today. I think he could win at least a set against Djokovic and maybe try for the big jackpot Wink

@bitbollo Kyrgios is an interesting character, because he uses each and every emotion possible to get into the opponent’s head and now he’s also done the unthinkable by breaking the rigid dress code at Wimbledon. Lastly it’ll be interesting to see if he can make it to semis or even the finals, because I’m curious to see if he’ll break the dress code again and what will he do next to rile up his opponent.

I don't think it's intentional, it's just his personality. He's definitely not a cold, logical mastermind who plays psychological games with his opponents in order to beat them. That's more the sort of thing Djokovic does when he feigns injury at vital moments in a match.

Kyrgios is very different, he's just Kyrgios, very talented and flamboyant but highly erratic, and always bubbling just below the surface. Every match he turns out to play he has to beat two opponents, the one across the net, and the one causing chaos inside his own head.

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 05, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

Quote from: bct_ail on July 05, 2022, 04:31:57 AM

I'm curious to see if Kyrgios nerves will hold. He could handle himself against Nakashima, but the way he behaved in the match against Tsitsipas was quite inappropriate from a human point of view. If he would just concentrate on his game, he would certainly be even better. But some people never change.

Kyrgios is a player who uses the technique of provocation to annoy the opponent and create "tension" in the match. he wouldn't surprise me so much if he still had this attitude even versus Garin.

I am really curious to see the match of Sinner today. I think he could win at least a set against Djokovic and maybe try for the big jackpot Wink

Kyrgios dosent surprise me at all in this tournament with his provocation,im already used to watching him doing stupid stuff so nothing surprises me anymore. When he threw that chair on the field once i cant get shocked anymore. I have seen his arm also hurt and that he was in pain so hopefully it is okay and he can continue in the next rounds

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 05, 2022, 05:03:55 AM

Quote from: bct_ail on July 05, 2022, 04:31:57 AM

I'm curious to see if Kyrgios nerves will hold. He could handle himself against Nakashima, but the way he behaved in the match against Tsitsipas was quite inappropriate from a human point of view. If he would just concentrate on his game, he would certainly be even better. But some people never change.

Kyrgios is a player who uses the technique of provocation to annoy the opponent and create "tension" in the match. he wouldn't surprise me so much if he still had this attitude even versus Garin.

I am really curious to see the match of Sinner today. I think he could win at least a set against Djokovic and maybe try for the big jackpot Wink

@bitbollo Kyrgios is an interesting character, because he uses each and every emotion possible to get into the opponent’s head and now he’s also done the unthinkable by breaking the rigid dress code at Wimbledon. Lastly it’ll be interesting to see if he can make it to semis or even the finals, because I’m curious to see if he’ll break the dress code again and what will he do next to rile up his opponent.

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Quote from: bct_ail on July 05, 2022, 04:31:57 AM

I'm curious to see if Kyrgios nerves will hold. He could handle himself against Nakashima, but the way he behaved in the match against Tsitsipas was quite inappropriate from a human point of view. If he would just concentrate on his game, he would certainly be even better. But some people never change.

Kyrgios is a player who uses the technique of provocation to annoy the opponent and create "tension" in the match. he wouldn't surprise me so much if he still had this attitude even versus Garin.

I am really curious to see the match of Sinner today. I think he could win at least a set against Djokovic and maybe try for the big jackpot Wink

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Quote from: vennali on July 04, 2022, 10:49:39 PM

Tough test for both favorites. Nadal vs Fritz and Djokovic vs Sinner. I think if Djoker gets past Sinner, he will surely reach the finals as I think he should be able to beat Goffin/Norrie in the next round. Sinner absolutely dismantled one of the favs in Carlos Alcaraz with a convincing 4 set match win. How surprising is it that we are going to witness one of Garin or Kyrgios into the semi-finals of Wimbledon?

Djokovic beats Sinner.
Norrie beats Goffin.
Kyrgios beats Garin.
Nadal beats Fritz.

I think these will all be fairly easy wins, although Fritz at the moment on grass is good enough to give Nadal some trouble.

Semis, Djokovic beats Norrie, Nadal beats Kyrgios (who has a trademark implosion). Again it's Nadal who has a tougher match than Djokovic.
Final I suspect Djokovic will beat Nadal, but it could be close, and if the odds are favourable I might be tempted to bet on Nadal. Also depends if Nadal has had two 5-setters in his quarter and semi.

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I'm curious to see if Kyrgios nerves will hold. He could handle himself against Nakashima, but the way he behaved in the match against Tsitsipas was quite inappropriate from a human point of view. If he would just concentrate on his game, he would certainly be even better. But some people never change.

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Quote from: virasog on July 04, 2022, 10:41:20 AM

This match is really getting very interesting at both Nakashima and Kyrgios have won two sets each and now it's all down to the last set. It seems that Kyrgios will win this last set as Kyrgios leads the last set by 4-1.
Even if he lost the match, you would lose the bet because you bet on 3-0 which is not going to happen. Right?

Yeah, if you bet on a correct score, it doesn't help you if he loses by a different score than the one you placed your bet on.
I went to bet on it but ultimately decided not to - I expected the odds to be at 4 or more and they were around 2.70 - which wasn't attractive at all.

Nadal was looking good again yesterday - he lost only 19 games in his last 2 matches. Fritz will be a big challenge for him though - he is the only remaining player in the draw that is yet to lose a set.

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