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This is sad news, now we will not see the epic final Djokovic - Nadal. Also, I'm sure this is a huge disappointment for many bettors who have bet that Nadal will win the tournament (I've seen bookmakers add good bonuses to those who made such bets).
Is anyone going to bet on these ridiculous odds?:

Djokovic, Novak 1.05

Norrie, Cameron 7.60

Why Kyrgios is lucky to be in the final? He played some very good matches and as Trofo already mentioned, against the top players he will always be even more motivated. Djokovic will probably win quite easily against Norrie and will be the favorite also in the final but Djokovic is far from unbeatable this year. We all know that Kyrgios has the talent to win a grand slam and this is a good chance for him to show that.

Yeah, apparently he played the match against Fritz with an abdominal tear. Which is unbelievable to hear. How can a player play at such high level of tennis with a muscle tear. Absolutely crazy to be honest. Hope he recovers soon. He has been playing some really high quality tennis for the past few months and I thought that he had a fair chance of winning Wimbledon.

I just saw the status "Walkover"  on the semi final match between Nadal and Kyrgios.



This is a big shock for me and Nadal fans all over the world. Instead of losing to Kyrgios by playing in a bad health situation, he preferred to fortified the match and walk out of the tournament with dignity.

That was the first thing I thought of when I heard Kyrgios was into the final, he will be
rested and ready to go. I cant recall having seen Kyrgios play Djokovic. Checking the
head 2 head shows its Kyrgios 2 - 0 Djokovic.....on hard courts and both in 2017 >
https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/nick-kyrgios-vs-novak-djokovic/ke17/d643

But yea its a GS final and a chance for Djokovic to get 1 step closer to Nadal's 22

and also a chance to prove to everyone that he can do something big without all
the smoke and mirrors.

Obviously not faking it in the end.

Really sad tournament for me this year. I don't remember if I ever was less interested in Grand Slam. We lost a couple of good players to injury, a couple to the Russian situation and a couple to covid. Add to that fact that there is no points this year and it really misses something. I am always watching tennis for whole days during grand slams and this time around I barely catch a set here and there when I find myself in front of the TV. Just not doing it for me. Today I rather watched DOTA, and just had Wimbledon in small screen to cover the scores since I had a bet on Rybakina. Otherwise I would not even bother turning on the app.

I also just read about the breaking news about Nadals withdrawal and to be honest i was not really that surprised. Nadal has a very long history with injuries and especially in the last 5 years he hardly had series of a few months where he was not hindered by any injury. In the last few weeks and months it looked like he had his chronic issue on his foot pretty much under control and now he has something else. That is really very unlucky for Nadal. I think though that it was the absolute right decision to withdraw from Wimbledon now. I read that the tear in his abs is already 7 mm long and it probably would have become larger and larger if he would have continued to play now.
Now he can make a break for a few weeks and then start to train again and he should be fit for the US open.

I don't think Djokovic is quite at his best, but yes, you'd expect him to beat Norrie.
I actually don't think it's outrageous to suggest that Kyrgios might win the tournament... whilst it's good for Djokovic, it's not absolutely ideal to go into a slam final having an opponent who is thoroughly rested and ready to go.

Tempted to put a bet on Kyrgios to win the tournament, odds are decent, and if he decides to turn up for what will be by far the biggest match of his career, he will be a threat.

Well if Nadal was playing against Kyrgios in this state i think he would have been destroyed. Plus another hard match would really get Nadal in the worst situation so sadly he withdrawed. Hopefully we see Djokovic and Kyrgios in the final to make it special

so, basically he said everything about faking the injury with this withdrawal

Kyrgios is lucky to be in the final, and I would not count him out completely, but this scenario is simply the best for Djokovic that could happen, from top4 players, two were out before the tournament and one withdrew due to injury and last year finalist withdrew due to Covid

Norrie will be down in three sets, probably, but still hoping to have at least @1.3 on Djokovic at one moment, to hedge outright

Rafael Nadal played a great match yesterday despite his injury and saw semi-final but unfortunately today he announced that he withdrew from the tournament due to abdominal injury. I wish him speedy recovery and see him in next Grand Slam fully fit. Now my favorite in Wimbledon is obviously Novak Djokovic. He made a great comeback in quarter final against Sinner and showed how he's still hungry about this tournament. He won last four tournament here and is ready to make it five in a row.
He will play with Norrie and then Kyrgios if he pass Norrie in semi final. Kyrgios can rest more but I still see Nole as heavy favorite here.

Rafael Nadal made a statement that he withdrew from the tournament unfortunately. His performance against Fritz despite being injured was really awesome. It wasn't expected for him to join the tournament before Wimbledon too. However he came here by making big sacrifices. Nick Kyrgios has become the first finalist in this way.

Congratulations on winning  I watched the game exclusively by odds, so I can not say anything about the reliability of this bet. In doubles, clear underdogs Matthew Ebden/Max Purcell also won. It surprises me that the pre-match quotes of the bookmakers are very far from the real state of affairs. It seems that it is more profitable to bet on each outsider and this will give a total profit.

Rybakina won the match really easy and i didnt expect that to happen in straight sets. Halep was really good on Wimbledon and i was thinking that she was gonna win the title. Now we have a duel between Jabour and Rybakina and in the final and i think Rybakina has a good chance to win it

I just took Rybakina to win at 1.8 few moments ago. I am watching the match and Simona Halep has no chance here unless something really strange happens. Rybakina lost only few points on her serve in the whole match while Halep has to defend break points in almost ever game.

This will be one of the easiest bets recently.

Edit: And now there is already a break in second set as well, I am bit angry at myself for not taking a larger risk with bigger stake.

Due to the injury to Nadal, it seems an open road to Fritz too in the quarterfinal match but it did not turn out that way. Nadal came strong in the last set. I guess both Nadal  and Dokovic has so much experience with them that if you take the match so long, they will handle the pressure well as compared to the relatively new players.
Anyways i feel we might have an historic Dokovic vs Nadal final 

Rybakina, Elena 1.75

Halep, Simona 2.10

The game score is 5-2 and Elena apparently wins the first set. Another game where the original favorite falls into the pit. The initial quotes for Simona's victory were 1.3. Is it worth it now to take a bet at an increased odds? Or is women's tennis random and not worth the risk? Remembering Djokovic and Nadal's comebacks, the situation looks attractive.

Ha of course, I was the one who got it wrong. Duh.

I've been having periods of "revolutions" at the way I see age in sports now, mainly due to personal experience and what I can now witness myself at the top level.

Started about 15 years ago when I was a very young 20-ish guy, running 5km a day before I started my day (a day that proceeded to have at least 2 hours football after work). Guy who convinced me was an 83-year old dude (he looked 60 to me when I first met him) who only slept about 3/4 hours a day. Now he ran qualification speed 10km a day, either before 6 am or after 12 midnight. He had a slight stoop yes, but a human marvel.

So he actually ended up still doing much more than me or regular guys at our work. Hyper alert, really smart.

Anyway, he told me he was a fat fck and didn't do much with his life until he was retired at mid 50s. Got his degree, his work, everything after mid life. Didn't play sport or any physical activity too. Tennis, of all things, and running, was his thing.

In short: since then, and seeing more and more how injury and rehab techniques improve... I actually don't think it's such a joke that you could perform at least 50% peak into your 50s.

And hell, if you could play 50% of peak Nadal?


Yeah my bad!

I don't think it's as bad as media might have made out either but don't doubt he's faking it. I mean, there are injuries you absolutely can play through or even forget about, adrenaline numbs it all. Does tennis allow you to take hardcore painkillers (before/while playing) like in football? I remember Gerrard injecting himself in the foot just before a game, and apparently did it a lot throughout his Liverpool days just to keep playing and I was like, damn, they can do that?

I know from the news Nadal's been on them, but more like the pop pills Dr House Vicodin variety I believe.

Edit: just saw Cnut's post on foot anaesthesia, so I guess it's also fair game in tennis.

I think it's genuine. I'd make a distinction here between Nadal and Djokovic.

Djokovic is famous for having "injuries" at strategic moments in matches, normally when he's losing. He definitely fakes most/all of it.

Nadal isn't famous for this, despite the number of big matches he's had, and the opportunities he's had to do so when in a losing position over the years against Federer or Djokovic. His injuries don't come at convenient moments. They don't come when he's losing, and they don't magically disappear. He had the abdominal problem in the previous round, too... it just got worse in this match. And it was visibly affecting him in his service action, right through to the end of the match.

Plus, Nadal just comes across as an open, nice and honest person.

Here's evidence of the abdominal injury in the previous round, against van de Zandschulp.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19091507/rafael-nadal-pain-wimbledon-quarter-final-van-de-zandschulp/




The foot problem he had at Roland Garros is serious, a congenital defect, and he played and won a whole slam with his foot anaesthetised. He's Nadal after all, he's an absolute machine, and even at 70% or 80% or whatever, he's too good for most opponents.

The last remaining player from Germany Maria will play against Jabeur in about 45 minutes. The odds are against Maria. And although I wish her a victory, she probably will not win and the semifinal will be her endstation. Jabeur has been in the final 4 times this year and plays very well on grass. But it could be that she needs 3 sets to win.