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July 07, 2022, 04:26:25 AM
It turns out that Nadal played his game against Sinner with a very nasty abdominal injury. It even looked like he might have to give up. He said after the game that he even had to adjust his serve completely because he couldn't move well with serving. Perhaps that explains why Sinner had managed to almost win. A fit Nadal who could have easily won against Sinner. A round before against the Zandschulp, Nadal didn't seem to be bothered by anything. If the final is Djokovic - Nadal, then Nadal doesn't stand a chance with this injury.
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July 07, 2022, 04:07:53 AM
Nadal struggled for the whole 5 sets (Fritz was playing good, it has to be said) and then destroyed him in the last, deciding game. It is incredible to see him and Đoković do that match after match, set after set, game after game.

He was in constant pain again, his father wanted him to forfeit but he did not want to. He's still unsure whether he'll be able to play on Friday.

All in all - looks like an open road to the trophy for Đoković.

Yes, and it might be only Nick who is going to stand the way of Djokovic for another grand slam. Nick is now the favorite against Nadal, not surprised because Rafa is in pain and it will take a miracle for him to win against the resurgent Kyrgios. And if ever Rafa wins, then it will be him against Djokovic. So again, he has all the advantage as Nadal in finals not 100% against him will be a disaster.
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July 07, 2022, 01:29:36 AM
Nadal struggled for the whole 5 sets (Fritz was playing good, it has to be said) and then destroyed him in the last, deciding game. It is incredible to see him and Đoković do that match after match, set after set, game after game.

He was in constant pain again, his father wanted him to forfeit but he did not want to. He's still unsure whether he'll be able to play on Friday.

All in all - looks like an open road to the trophy for Đoković.
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July 06, 2022, 09:10:09 PM

Kyrgios is actually always better against top players, I guess he respects them enough to put up a serious performance. I just wanted to place the bet on him, expecting at least 2.5 odds and then I find out that bookies placed him as favorite @1,67. So a guy that isn't that young, first time playing semi final in any grand slam is a favorite against the guy that won 22 grand slams? No thanks, if odds stay like this my money can only go on Nadal even with all the injury problems.

Checked the odds myself also and I expected a lot higher odds for Kyrgios ;was curious to know what your thoughts about it! I will probably skip this match to bet on; there is value in betting on Nadal but personally I am routing for Kyrgrios and hope/think he will win this match.

Same here, I'm routing for a Kyrgios win, now at 1.59, he is indeed the favorite because of Nadal's injury. So I might also skip this one out.

And with that, I will bet on the Djokovic vs Norrie match. But it won't be pre betting, wanted to see how Djokovic is in the first set and see if he can have value specially if he losses at least one of two like in his previous match wherein, the odds for him at ML went high because of the two quick set losses.
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July 06, 2022, 04:58:36 PM
let's not forget that Kyrgios beat Nadal at Wimbledon once, 2014, if I remember right
he was relatively unknown, and promising star, and Nadal was in series of season where passing few rounds at Wimbledon was an issue

now Nadal is reaching SF, with an injury, and Kyrgios did not provide much of promised success in previous 5+ years, more or less, just amusement to audience, with his attitude
this match is certainly to be skipped for betting
Right now, with the way both players are doing I am enjoying this all because now its tough fight is going on here both players already faced each other 9 times and Nadal won 6 with Kyrgios won 3 times and in last four matches every time Kyrgios won one set which is interesting fact. Currently, Nadal is facing some injury problem and Kyrgios is having amazing form mean Bookmakers are right if they are having him as favorite player for this match but still Nadal is not going to be easy because today we already watch how can he turn things for himself and still he can go through for final against Djokovic.

I am cheering for Nadal, and hopefully he is going to encourage his fans for another win and another final against his B-3 companion.
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July 06, 2022, 04:44:39 PM

Kyrgios is actually always better against top players, I guess he respects them enough to put up a serious performance. I just wanted to place the bet on him, expecting at least 2.5 odds and then I find out that bookies placed him as favorite @1,67. So a guy that isn't that young, first time playing semi final in any grand slam is a favorite against the guy that won 22 grand slams? No thanks, if odds stay like this my money can only go on Nadal even with all the injury problems.

Checked the odds myself also and I expected a lot higher odds for Kyrgios ;was curious to know what your thoughts about it! I will probably skip this match to bet on; there is value in betting on Nadal but personally I am routing for Kyrgrios and hope/think he will win this match.
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July 06, 2022, 03:03:58 PM
now Nadal is reaching SF, with an injury, and Kyrgios did not provide much of promised success in previous 5+ years, more or less, just amusement to audience, with his attitude
this match is certainly to be skipped for betting
Kyrgios is actually always better against top players, I guess he respects them enough to put up a serious performance. I just wanted to place the bet on him, expecting at least 2.5 odds and then I find out that bookies placed him as favorite @1,67. So a guy that isn't that young, first time playing semi final in any grand slam is a favorite against the guy that won 22 grand slams? No thanks, if odds stay like this my money can only go on Nadal even with all the injury problems.
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July 06, 2022, 02:43:52 PM
~snip

So he got the job done in 3 sets today, I wonder how these allegations are affecting him?
The match with Nadal will reveal a lot? whether he has become more serious, toned
down the aggro in light of the domestic violence.

let's not forget that Kyrgios beat Nadal at Wimbledon once, 2014, if I remember right
he was relatively unknown, and promising star, and Nadal was in series of season where passing few rounds at Wimbledon was an issue

now Nadal is reaching SF, with an injury, and Kyrgios did not provide much of promised success in previous 5+ years, more or less, just amusement to audience, with his attitude
this match is certainly to be skipped for betting
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July 06, 2022, 02:07:03 PM
Wow, after three sets, Taylor leads and the bookmakers quotes are as follows:

1.30 Fritz, Taylor

3.75 Nadal, Rafael

To be honest, I really want to bet on both outcomes - Taylor looks like a favorite, but 3.75 on Nadal ... lol! So I'll hold off for now. I don't know who will win this game, but maybe it's worth betting on Taylor if Nadal wins the fourth set?

unbelievable play from Rafa, did not watch the match, but took to bookies and sae odds on Nadal @5.3, it was second set, 4:4, and I thought that he does not have a hand, if odds were there, so missed it

nevertheless, his win is probably magic, as magic can be, Djokovic made turnback yesterday, but Sinner was never really close to win, Fritz had fourth set until 5:5, and tie-break in fifth, but did not make it to ML

is it possible to see Nadal fit in SF? Kyrgios has historic chance on finals

We dont see odds like that on Rafa, 3.75 and 5.5. I only saw the tie break and was just
too busy to even check the scores from set to set. Thats the champions attitude, always
find a way to win, we saw it yesterday with Djokovic too.

Up next for Rafa is Kyrgios.

In todays Quarters I am fearing more for Nadal than Kyrgios. Fritz is going well
and has beaten Nadal already but yea this is a GS.
If we look just at best tennis levels these players can produce then I absolutely agree. But then you add the fact that Nadal is mental beast in BO5 matches and Kyrgios is quite unstable and then I am not so sure. Than you also add the fact that police in Australia are looking for Kyrgios regarding some domestic violence stuff and that he could get a couple of years of prison time....that will not help his concentration.

Anyway my initial bets for today is for underdogs to take at least 1 set and over games.

So he got the job done in 3 sets today, I wonder how these allegations are affecting him?
The match with Nadal will reveal a lot? whether he has become more serious, toned
down the aggro in light of the domestic violence.
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July 06, 2022, 01:35:29 PM
unbelievable play from Rafa, did not watch the match, but took to bookies and sae odds on Nadal @5.3, it was second set, 4:4, and I thought that he does not have a hand, if odds were there, so missed it

nevertheless, his win is probably magic, as magic can be, Djokovic made turnback yesterday, but Sinner was never really close to win, Fritz had fourth set until 5:5, and tie-break in fifth, but did not make it to ML

is it possible to see Nadal fit in SF? Kyrgios has historic chance on finals
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July 06, 2022, 12:44:04 PM
Despite his injury Nadal still managed to win the fourth set and carried the game to the final set. To be honest, I thought that it was the end for Nadal after the score came to 4-4. However he broke service one more time and won the set. I think that the game is still balanced now. Vamos Rafa!
Amazing skills from Nadal even injury is having his effects but still he is managing very strongly because I was not sure about him to do something like this.

Right now we are in fifth set with score of 3 - 3, and he is giving his best I am not sure who is going to win because it's not easy for any player to give his best at this stage here Fritz Taylor is also doing amazing job and now with this we can expect some more quality games from this player in coming tournaments. Because, now it's time for these youths to give their best and sidelined these B-3 three already dominate nearly 2 decades in this game and achieve too many trophies with their quality and skills.
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July 06, 2022, 12:27:28 PM
Despite his injury Nadal still managed to win the fourth set and carried the game to the final set. To be honest, I thought that it was the end for Nadal after the score came to 4-4. However he broke service one more time and won the set. I think that the game is still balanced now. Vamos Rafa!
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July 06, 2022, 12:25:31 PM


I still bet on Taylor. I don’t know who will win but it seems to me this is an obvious value bet since the chances of both players are 50/50 but I was able to bet with odds of 2.5. In general, it will be strange if almost all the failed games from the side of the favorites turn into a comeback, so I hope that I have a chance.
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July 06, 2022, 11:53:31 AM
The odds were good for him and he is ahead in the match at the moment.
Nadal looks in all sorts of trouble as he lost the first set and the second set is even at the moment.  Also, he is unfit and I feel he might lose today in the quarterfinals. Nadal has taken the medical time out  Sad
Nadal has some problems with abdominal wall, very uncomfortable since it limits all your moves but not so dangerous. I expect him to continue until the end rather than forfeit. He is not the one to throw the towel if he can stand on the pitch. I can also see Fritz getting more and more nervous as it goes on since he knows his opponent has problems and still he can't dispatch him.

But I agree, better to not bet on his one, anything can happen but if I had to place my bet it can only be on Nadal.
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July 06, 2022, 11:38:16 AM
Wow, after three sets, Taylor leads and the bookmakers quotes are as follows:

1.30 Fritz, Taylor

3.75 Nadal, Rafael

To be honest, I really want to bet on both outcomes - Taylor looks like a favorite, but 3.75 on Nadal ... lol! So I'll hold off for now. I don't know who will win this game, but maybe it's worth betting on Taylor if Nadal wins the fourth set?
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July 06, 2022, 10:23:22 AM
Today's Nadal - Fritz match might prove to be more exciting than expected, Fritz has been great so far. I planned to bet on him winning - but the odds aren't that attractive.

Did you bet on Fritz before the start of today's match ?

The odds were good for him and he is ahead in the match at the moment.
Nadal looks in all sorts of trouble as he lost the first set and the second set is even at the moment.  Also, he is unfit and I feel he might lose today in the quarterfinals. Nadal has taken the medical time out  Sad
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July 06, 2022, 08:40:15 AM
Garin seems to have reached his limit. He got unexpected wins at Wimbledon and only with a very good performance he will be able to win today against Kyrgios. The disadvantage about Kyrgios is, as always, his temperament. The other disadvantage could be his shoulder problem. In the match against Nakashima a physiotherapist had to massage his shoulder and afterwards he won the fifth set clearly.
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July 06, 2022, 08:25:50 AM
Nadal quotes for today's match continue to fall. Initially, it was about 1.2 yesterday it was 1.3, and now you can bet on him with odds of 1.4. Does anyone know what's going on?
You mean continue to grow? I belive this is a perfect case when bookies get carried away and put one player as overwhelming favorite which is not the case in reality. Fritz is the only player in Wimbledon this season that still has not lost a single set. He also won against Nadal on hard earlier this year and grass should suit him even more.

Us gamblers realized the value on Fritz bet and obviously placed enough money on it so bookies had to readjust the odds.

The odds offered by the bookmakers are inversely proportional to the probability of the player winning. If we are talking about odds as a coefficient, then they are growing, and if we are talking about chances as a probability of winning, then they are falling.
1.2 -> 1.3 -> 1.4 odds/coefficient are growing
80% - > 73% -> 68% the probability of winning, the quotes are falling.

Thanks for the explanation, I don't follow tennis and just make blind bets but I have already noticed that the position of Nadal and Djokovic is more precarious than what we see from the bookmakers quotes. They look like the strongest favorites more due to their name than due to a real advantage over the rest.
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July 06, 2022, 07:38:50 AM
Thats the difference between the Big 3 and the rest. Even when not exactly in their prime, they still know how to not stop trying hard to reach their goal.That is to fight until the end. Well played by Sinner though, he is still young and has a lot to learn. Definitely has all the qualities to win a Grand Slam.

This is grand slam so this experience and big 2 (Nadal and Djokovic), will continue to reign. I mean down 0-2, and then take a toilet break, when he comes back he is a different animal, as if he flip the switch inside of him and then Sinner is done.

I will bet on the Over for the Garin vs Kyrgios, over 36.5 and maybe parlay with as well with the over 39.5 Nadal vs Fritz.
Fritz is playing well but I'm actually not sure how the match will go. Nadal is a different beast when he's on fire but, Fritz has been firing the ball in as well. Tough one to predict how the match will go. Nadal's playing style is a bit unique and to add to the fact that he's a lefty.
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July 06, 2022, 07:15:42 AM
Thats the difference between the Big 3 and the rest. Even when not exactly in their prime, they still know how to not stop trying hard to reach their goal.That is to fight until the end. Well played by Sinner though, he is still young and has a lot to learn. Definitely has all the qualities to win a Grand Slam.

This is grand slam so this experience and big 2 (Nadal and Djokovic), will continue to reign. I mean down 0-2, and then take a toilet break, when he comes back he is a different animal, as if he flip the switch inside of him and then Sinner is done.

I will bet on the Over for the Garin vs Kyrgios, over 36.5 and maybe parlay with as well with the over 39.5 Nadal vs Fritz.
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