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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 09, 2022, 08:19:10 AM

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Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.

Rybakina just won 2-1 in sets against Jabeur and won the wimbledon grand slam. Too bad the points dont count she would be in top 10 now but this is a huge achivement for here. She won it out of nowhere before this she couldnt win 3 matches in a row

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 09, 2022, 07:33:23 AM

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.

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Quote from: Ratash on July 09, 2022, 07:29:03 AM

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

I don't think it is a real tactic of Djokovic. Why would he want to loose the first set to conserve some energy? The longer the match goes on, the more his energy gets depleted also so all players are focused to win in 3 sets in the shortest amount of time.

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Noticed a funny thing:

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

The bookmaker's margin is exactly 5%.

Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%! Shocked

It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

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So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic Wink

Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 09, 2022, 07:11:03 AM

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So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic Wink

Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

Yes, interesting question. Perhaps the problem is that Djokovic had a big break after the GS in Paris and needed time to raise the level of his game?
If Djokovic continues this tradition, we can probably expect him to lose the first and maybe the second set in the final, so we can bet on that too Grin

I think Kyrgios will be the biggest challenge for Djokovic in this tournament and he will have to be careful to keep his concentration during the match because Kyrgios will surely try everything to disrupt his game.

Yeah, it will be Nick obviously, and the biggest challenge for Nick is... himself. He seems to be relentless though in this tournament and very unforgiving to his opponents and the crowd. Djokovic knows this, and just maybe will not give Nick any first set. Because he knows that Nick maybe has something that might throw his concentration off by his antics to disrupt Djokovic. So to get a 'sure' win, Djokovic be better on a spree as early as the first set.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 08, 2022, 10:23:58 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 08, 2022, 07:05:26 PM

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic Wink

Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

Yes, interesting question. Perhaps the problem is that Djokovic had a big break after the GS in Paris and needed time to raise the level of his game?
If Djokovic continues this tradition, we can probably expect him to lose the first and maybe the second set in the final, so we can bet on that too Grin

I think Kyrgios will be the biggest challenge for Djokovic in this tournament and he will have to be careful to keep his concentration during the match because Kyrgios will surely try everything to disrupt his game.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 09, 2022, 02:43:20 AM

Morning tip for you guys, play something agains Pavic/Mektic today. Pavic has fell on his hand during last match and fractured something, he can barely use his right hand. He is left handed so they will play but he can't toss the ball properly or play his usual two handed backhand.

Can't belive odds on Ebden/Purcell are still over 3. Forfeit is legit concern so don't use free bets or insurances on this one.

Yea I actually watched a bit of the highlights of that mixed doubles match and yea he had a
nasty fall on his hand. Thanks for the reminder Trofo I will certainly do something with it.

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So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic Wink

Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.

Yea its been a regular occurrence for Djokovic to do that, today now I am half thinking of
actually betting on Kyrgios in some way, maybe he can beat Djokovic. As I said in a
previous post he needs to step up, grow up and prove his remarkable talent, H2H he
is 2-0 against Djokovic, he needs to get his head in the right place and keep it there
for the duration of the match.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 08, 2022, 10:23:58 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 08, 2022, 07:05:26 PM

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic Wink

Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.

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Morning tip for you guys, play something agains Pavic/Mektic today. Pavic has fell on his hand during last match and fractured something, he can barely use his right hand. He is left handed so they will play but he can't toss the ball properly or play his usual two handed backhand.

Can't belive odds on Ebden/Purcell are still over 3. Forfeit is legit concern so don't use free bets or insurances on this one.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 08, 2022, 07:05:26 PM

So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic Wink

Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

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So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

Not sure how Nick can stop Djokovic from winning the All England trophy again. If by chance, this will be Djokovic's 21 Grand Slam, still chasing Rafa though, but with this another win, gonna be another close one with Rafa's 22 against his 21.

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Quote from: babygun on July 08, 2022, 03:32:25 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on July 08, 2022, 12:28:22 PM

After the game is over it is natural that everything is obvious. If there would be a directly opposite result, then everything would be no less obvious, because the result is a consequence of the process that we see. I recently won a bet on Djokovic at odds of 1.8, but I understand that it was a risky bet and I could well lose, but this bet was close to 2, so I consider such bets as adequate. The chance of 1.3 is unacceptably low in my opinion.

I agree with you, but there a lot of people who like betting on odds of 1.2 or 1.3 as they think it is a "sure bet". Need to check the odds for the final but if the odds are OK, I will probably place a bet on Kyrgios to win (or like Kyrgrios +1.5 or +2.5 sets).

There is an understanding that lower odds give assured win. In the previous match of Djokovic I saw th odds reaching high above 2 when Sinner won the first two wins. It is a tough bet, but Djokovic made it. If Nadal have won the match, the final could've been more interesting. I think he gave up, because reaching the final once again he will be in a situation to give the best of his ability. Going for Kyrgios is a good choice to enjoy thrill and support Kyrgios win the match.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 08, 2022, 12:28:22 PM

After the game is over it is natural that everything is obvious. If there would be a directly opposite result, then everything would be no less obvious, because the result is a consequence of the process that we see. I recently won a bet on Djokovic at odds of 1.8, but I understand that it was a risky bet and I could well lose, but this bet was close to 2, so I consider such bets as adequate. The chance of 1.3 is unacceptably low in my opinion.

I agree with you, but there a lot of people who like betting on odds of 1.2 or 1.3 as they think it is a "sure bet". Need to check the odds for the final but if the odds are OK, I will probably place a bet on Kyrgios to win (or like Kyrgrios +1.5 or +2.5 sets).

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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 08, 2022, 02:16:47 AM

It's a shame that Nadal cannot continue, he was my favorite to lift the trophy. If he'd won here, he would have needed only the US open for the Grand Slam and with his age - that would have been such an achievement.

That's true, but there really wasn't anything that could be done about this. The stomach injury he had was obviously quite severe and if he forced it on it would be very dangerous for him.
But indeed with this he had to give up the grand slam again and become the best tennis player of all time.
Now it's clear Kyrgios has the advantage and he's become the first Australian to reach the men's singles final at the All England Club but I really don't like his behaviour.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 08, 2022, 10:14:38 AM

Djokovic lost the first set but bookmakers still see him favorite as he has the habit of coming from behind. However, i think everyone is under estimating Norrie here. Norrie is playing very competitive today and we could see a big upset today. I would bet a small amount on Cameron Norrie, as his odds are too tempting to take the risk.
The second set is in progress and let us see who will win the first break point.

Bookmakers are now wise about Djokovic because they are catching him with his tactics if you can check go ahead in last few Grand Slam matches he is doing things like this and losing first two or only one set which is having some big impact on odds, but now they are not going with this and still have odds like these.

Few days back when Djokovic were lost first two sets then I place a bet with the odds of @2 but now suddenly they are not allowing things like this because peoples were in waiting mod and bookmakers was also in commanding situation, so they have done their own system which was successful for them in this match and Djokovic was also in better mood, and he complete this match very quickly after losing first set.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 08, 2022, 09:51:44 AM

The game score is 2-5 and most likely Djokovic loses the first set. The odds are pretty ridiculous though:

Djokovic, Novak 1,3

Norrie, Cameron 3,65

It seems to me that Cameron is very much underestimated because of the big name of the opponent, and if you bet, it's better to bet on Cameron.

Djokovic lost the first set but now the odds are even more ridiculous:

Djokovic, Novak 1,2

Norrie, Cameron 4,9

Well this is normal Djokovic already lost a couple of time a set and returned after losing. So i wouldnt even be surprised if in the final the same thing happen. Norrie was carried by the crowd while Djokovic didnt heat up. Once he did it was all over for Norrie

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 08, 2022, 11:49:54 AM

was it too obvious even to bookies that Djokovic will start playing after losing first set
took him @1.3, expected more steam from Norrie, so did not hedged complete outright, but he basically did not had any break chances after first set finished

not sure about final dough, Kyrgios should not break down after losing one set, as Sinner and Norrie

After the game is over it is natural that everything is obvious. If there would be a directly opposite result, then everything would be no less obvious, because the result is a consequence of the process that we see. I recently won a bet on Djokovic at odds of 1.8, but I understand that it was a risky bet and I could well lose, but this bet was close to 2, so I consider such bets as adequate. The chance of 1.3 is unacceptably low in my opinion.

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It is a pity that Nadal has decided not to play his match in the semi-finals. A pity for everyone, but in the end this was the only right decision. If he was going to play, the injury would only have gotten worse and he might have been out of action for months. So frustrating now, but Djokovic is now smiling third who is of course top favorite. Kyrgios is aiming for his first Grand Slam victory. Djokovic is at a complete other level than Kyrgios is.

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was it too obvious even to bookies that Djokovic will start playing after losing first set
took him @1.3, expected more steam from Norrie, so did not hedged complete outright, but he basically did not had any break chances after first set finished

not sure about final dough, Kyrgios should not break down after losing one set, as Sinner and Norrie

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