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Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

Tsitsipas is the big favorite to win it, but maybe Murray can indeed take away one set. We will never see the old Murray again, his movements on the court are limited to his injuries, but it is still quite early in the tournament, so I can see Murray winning 1 set.

I think Murray has a chance. No doubt he would have seen Rune despatch Tsitsipas at
Roland Garros and fancy his chances. On the other hand though Tsitsipas will have
learned a lot from that game and will for sure be wary of Murray's abilities eventhough
he has lesser speed and agility he still posses his shot making skills. Should be interesting.

Tsitsipas is not really that good on grass while Murray was one of the best in his prime. I wouldn't be surprised even of Murray wins this match. My bet is on Murray +4.5 for that added bit of security. Now I just hope he will serve first Grin

Should be nice match to watch and I plan on doing just that. These are two players that will get us many betting opportunities in grass season so always good to actually see them play.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2022, 03:06:43 PM

Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

Tsitsipas is the big favorite to win it, but maybe Murray can indeed take away one set. We will never see the old Murray again, his movements on the court are limited to his injuries, but it is still quite early in the tournament, so I can see Murray winning 1 set.

I think Murray has a chance. No doubt he would have seen Rune despatch Tsitsipas at
Roland Garros and fancy his chances. On the other hand though Tsitsipas will have
learned a lot from that game and will for sure be wary of Murray's abilities eventhough
he has lesser speed and agility he still posses his shot making skills. Should be interesting.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 09, 2022, 03:06:43 PM

Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

Tsitsipas is the big favorite to win it, but maybe Murray can indeed take away one set. We will never see the old Murray again, his movements on the court are limited to his injuries, but it is still quite early in the tournament, so I can see Murray winning 1 set.

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Tsitsipas tomorrow will play against Murray. For sure it's a good match to follow we will see good tennis.
I think that Murray could be easily defeated by the greek player...but generally speaking I think this is the kind of match that could provide some surprise and hard to be guessed. (maybe it will be decided in 3 sets?)
What is your opinion for that match?

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 09, 2022, 09:47:56 AM

The ATP tournament is currently taking place in Stuttgart, Germany. Andy Murray is playing there. The former two-time winner of the Wimbledon tournament is now in the quarter-finals. For him and the other players it is a preparation for the tournament in Wimbledon.
Stefanos Tsitsipas is the number 1 in this tournament. He is currently playing against Dominic Stricker and the game is interrupted due to rain.

I havent been following much tennis this week, just looking at the draws for the quarter
finals in Stuttgart I see Tsitsipas will play Murray, Fucsovics will play Kyrgios, Bonzi will
play Otte and Sonego will play Berrettini.

Interestingly Tsitsipas seeded 1 and Berrettini ceeded 2 are on opposite sides of the draw
and could meet in the final again. Berrettini has another two weeks to get
into shape for Wimbledon, maybe he too is eying up his chances at finishing far in Wimbledon?

Just looking in on the Hertogenbosch tournament the quarter finals there have some usual
suspects, Medvedev v Ivashka, Mannarino v Nakashima, Gaston v Van Rijthoven and
Khachanov v Felix AA and again Medvedev seeded 1 and Felix AA seeded 2 are on opposite
sides of the draw, thats interesting too.

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The ATP tournament is currently taking place in Stuttgart, Germany. Andy Murray is playing there. The former two-time winner of the Wimbledon tournament is now in the quarter-finals. For him and the other players it is a preparation for the tournament in Wimbledon.
Stefanos Tsitsipas is the number 1 in this tournament. He is currently playing against Dominic Stricker and the game is interrupted due to rain.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 09, 2022, 04:34:04 AM

Quote from: Trofo on June 09, 2022, 02:21:39 AM

Zverev is out for sure and I don't think Wimbledon will buckle up and ler Russians play.

Is there anywhere I can bet on Medvedev winning it? The odds on that should be huge now and I still feel that they will eventually allow them to play.
If they do - Medvedev would be one of the favorites for sure. But the odds at that point wouldn't really be high.

Wherever I looked - Medvedev isn't an option to bet. Which is logical of course, but I am for sure not the only one looking to gamble on this with bigger risk at higher odds?

Anyway - if someone finds it, please let me know.

Yeah, that's why I mentioned Medvedev, but if he is not allowed to play then there's not much we can do.

All I can see is the outright for him at the US Open, he is the second favorite to win behind Djokovic, Alcaraz is the 3rd.

But then again, with the whole war looming behind and sports now being involved, we will have to see if Medvedev will play or not, hopefully though he will.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on June 09, 2022, 05:18:41 AM

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Quote from: Jating on June 08, 2022, 05:09:43 PM

Not sure about Cilic as well, hmm, I'm thinking Medvedev or a healthy Zverev can give Djokovic a problem? Djokovic competitive spirit though might have woken again seeing Nadal raising the GS trophy one more time. He will get back for sure and wanted a GS this year.

Čilić actually has the game which suits grass surface best and he could go far this year.

Djoković is a big favourite with all those top players missing out. Nadal is currently undergoing some special treatment for the foot and he hopes to be ready in time but he said he will not play if he had to take same numbing drugs as in RG.

Zverev is out for sure and I don't think Wimbledon will buckle up and ler Russians play.

Cilic is a possibility and he does indeed have a good grass game. But I think his results flatter him a little this year, he has progressed quite far in the big tournaments, but generally this has been because he's made the most of a favourable draw. I don't think he's as good as he used to be, and winning Wimbledon may be beyond him - unless of course the draw really opens up and gives him an easy route.

I agree that Wimbledon won't back down, and Medvedev won't play.

No-one has really mentioned Alcaraz, I think he remains a possibility. He has pulled out of Queen's this morning, but is expected to be fit for Wimbledon.

I agree about Cilic, he has a good enough run this year, mostly at Roland Garros but
there is always the question about whether he can continue. Realistically as the
tournament progresses the opposition gets tougher and then Cilic's ability, fitness etc
are questioned even more.

Alcaraz hasnt been mentioned is right, is it that we see him like Nadal as a clay/hard
court specialist but yea with the reduced top tier opposition he could have a chance...

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Quote from: Trofo on June 09, 2022, 02:21:39 AM

Quote from: Jating on June 08, 2022, 05:09:43 PM

Not sure about Cilic as well, hmm, I'm thinking Medvedev or a healthy Zverev can give Djokovic a problem? Djokovic competitive spirit though might have woken again seeing Nadal raising the GS trophy one more time. He will get back for sure and wanted a GS this year.

Čilić actually has the game which suits grass surface best and he could go far this year.

Djoković is a big favourite with all those top players missing out. Nadal is currently undergoing some special treatment for the foot and he hopes to be ready in time but he said he will not play if he had to take same numbing drugs as in RG.

Zverev is out for sure and I don't think Wimbledon will buckle up and ler Russians play.

Cilic is a possibility and he does indeed have a good grass game. But I think his results flatter him a little this year, he has progressed quite far in the big tournaments, but generally this has been because he's made the most of a favourable draw. I don't think he's as good as he used to be, and winning Wimbledon may be beyond him - unless of course the draw really opens up and gives him an easy route.

I agree that Wimbledon won't back down, and Medvedev won't play.

No-one has really mentioned Alcaraz, I think he remains a possibility. He has pulled out of Queen's this morning, but is expected to be fit for Wimbledon.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 09, 2022, 02:21:39 AM

Zverev is out for sure and I don't think Wimbledon will buckle up and ler Russians play.

Is there anywhere I can bet on Medvedev winning it? The odds on that should be huge now and I still feel that they will eventually allow them to play.
If they do - Medvedev would be one of the favorites for sure. But the odds at that point wouldn't really be high.

Wherever I looked - Medvedev isn't an option to bet. Which is logical of course, but I am for sure not the only one looking to gamble on this with bigger risk at higher odds?

Anyway - if someone finds it, please let me know.

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Quote from: Jating on June 08, 2022, 05:09:43 PM

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 08, 2022, 09:43:53 AM

This Wimbledon will really look like the best opportunity in recent times for an outsider to claim the title. Medvedev and Zverev are out, Nadal is doubtful, Đoković is not really in his top form.

He will still be my 1st contender for the title, but I can see somebody from the shadows taking this. Čilić maybe? He's a dark horse for sure.

It can be an interesting year for Wimbledom but Djokovic has by far the best chance to win it, so the odds for him to win will probably not so high. Cilic is in form this year, given his run at Roland Garros, but I doubt that he will win it. He hasn't really been consistent enough the last couple of years!

It will still be Djokovic in both US and Wimbledon as the favorite. Nadal might not enter in both tournaments though specially if his foot bothers him.

Not sure about Cilic as well, hmm, I'm thinking Medvedev or a healthy Zverev can give Djokovic a problem? Djokovic competitive spirit though might have woken again seeing Nadal raising the GS trophy one more time. He will get back for sure and wanted a GS this year.

Čilić actually has the game which suits grass surface best and he could go far this year.

Djoković is a big favourite with all those top players missing out. Nadal is currently undergoing some special treatment for the foot and he hopes to be ready in time but he said he will not play if he had to take same numbing drugs as in RG.

Zverev is out for sure and I don't think Wimbledon will buckle up and ler Russians play.

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Quote from: babygun on June 08, 2022, 02:59:12 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on June 08, 2022, 09:43:53 AM

This Wimbledon will really look like the best opportunity in recent times for an outsider to claim the title. Medvedev and Zverev are out, Nadal is doubtful, Đoković is not really in his top form.

He will still be my 1st contender for the title, but I can see somebody from the shadows taking this. Čilić maybe? He's a dark horse for sure.

It can be an interesting year for Wimbledom but Djokovic has by far the best chance to win it, so the odds for him to win will probably not so high. Cilic is in form this year, given his run at Roland Garros, but I doubt that he will win it. He hasn't really been consistent enough the last couple of years!

It will still be Djokovic in both US and Wimbledon as the favorite. Nadal might not enter in both tournaments though specially if his foot bothers him.

Not sure about Cilic as well, hmm, I'm thinking Medvedev or a healthy Zverev can give Djokovic a problem? Djokovic competitive spirit though might have woken again seeing Nadal raising the GS trophy one more time. He will get back for sure and wanted a GS this year.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 08, 2022, 09:23:42 AM

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 08, 2022, 04:18:56 AM

After Zverev twisted his ankle in the semi-final against Nadal at the French Open he underwent a surgery yesterday. Since all three lateral ligaments in his right ankle were torn the operation was the best choice. He will definitely not be able to play in Wimbledon. Now we have to see when he can start training again. I hope that he will be able to play again in July. But he should be healthy at the time of the US Open.

So Zverev is out of Wimbledon, and Medvedev is banned from Wimbledon. And maybe some other top players will choose to skip it because there are no ranking points.
But what about Nadal and Djokovic, both chasing more slam titles to be the greatest ever? Presumably they will play, as it's a great opportunity for them to get a relatively easy route through to the final... and for Nadal in particular, chasing the calendar slam.

If there was not the chance for calendar slam I would be quite sure that Nadal is skipping Wimbledon. As it stands now with Zverev and Medvedev missing I am thinking he is liking his chances very much and that he will do anything to play in it. Even if it means risking a bigger injury since he is aware this is his last chance to get that calendar slam, time is not on his side.

Yes, that's what I think, too. Wimbledon may be possible as the grass could be quite an okay surface for his bad foot... but I think Nadal winning the US Open would really be quite unlikely, as it's a hard court, and unlike the AO which was at the start of the season when he's had a bit of a rest, the US Open is towards the end of the season when his foot is already suffering a lot.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 08, 2022, 09:43:53 AM

This Wimbledon will really look like the best opportunity in recent times for an outsider to claim the title. Medvedev and Zverev are out, Nadal is doubtful, Đoković is not really in his top form.

He will still be my 1st contender for the title, but I can see somebody from the shadows taking this. Čilić maybe? He's a dark horse for sure.

It can be an interesting year for Wimbledom but Djokovic has by far the best chance to win it, so the odds for him to win will probably not so high. Cilic is in form this year, given his run at Roland Garros, but I doubt that he will win it. He hasn't really been consistent enough the last couple of years!

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Quote from: bct_ail on June 08, 2022, 04:18:56 AM

After Zverev twisted his ankle in the semi-final against Nadal at the French Open he underwent a surgery yesterday. Since all three lateral ligaments in his right ankle were torn the operation was the best choice. He will definitely not be able to play in Wimbledon. Now we have to see when he can start training again. I hope that he will be able to play again in July. But he should be healthy at the time of the US Open.

I dont think that Zverev will be back until the end of the year. His injury i think is really serious even with this surgery i dont think he will be back until end of the year. So for sure he wont be back for us open this year

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No one will match what Nadal has shown. He's so damn good at the Gravel in Paris. I can't remember seeing anyone there that was that good. He may not be the very best all round. It can also be difficult to be the best on all surfaces. Djokovic seems to be having a somewhat lesser period, but that may also have to do with all the vicissitudes that have arisen due to his covid situation and the whole circus with vaccination. We are now almost no longer bothered by covid in the sports world. Let's see who is the best at Wimbledon later.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 08, 2022, 09:23:42 AM

~snip

If there was not the chance for calendar slam I would be quite sure that Nadal is skipping Wimbledon. As it stands now with Zverev and Medvedev missing I am thinking he is liking his chances very much and that he will do anything to play in it. Even if it means risking a bigger injury since he is aware this is his last chance to get that calendar slam, time is not on his side.

not sure about that, but I think that Nadal chances on Wimbledon are slim without an injury, and with a, no matter how small, injury, he is out from favorite list
and he is probably aware of that, could try nevertheless, but I somehow doubt that

saw that Federer is out as well, this will be really interesting tournament, with one finalist probably already known (no matter third on ATP, Djokovic will be no.1 seed), but other could be anyone, really anyone - my bets are with Norrie

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 08, 2022, 09:43:53 AM

This Wimbledon will really look like the best opportunity in recent times for an outsider to claim the title. Medvedev and Zverev are out, Nadal is doubtful, Đoković is not really in his top form.

He will still be my 1st contender for the title, but I can see somebody from the shadows taking this. Čilić maybe? He's a dark horse for sure.

Yea Marin Cilic, maybe Felix AA.

But as Trofo pointed out Nadal could be eying up his chances to do what
Djokovic couldnt do last year but with Djokovic playing that will be the main
threat i recon.

Nadal has a mixed bag of results at Wimbledon and it isnt his strongest GS
as we all know but yea it would be hard ignore him now with this new
insight regarding the Calendar Slam

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This Wimbledon will really look like the best opportunity in recent times for an outsider to claim the title. Medvedev and Zverev are out, Nadal is doubtful, Đoković is not really in his top form.

He will still be my 1st contender for the title, but I can see somebody from the shadows taking this. Čilić maybe? He's a dark horse for sure.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on June 08, 2022, 07:08:36 AM

Quote from: bct_ail on June 08, 2022, 04:18:56 AM

After Zverev twisted his ankle in the semi-final against Nadal at the French Open he underwent a surgery yesterday. Since all three lateral ligaments in his right ankle were torn the operation was the best choice. He will definitely not be able to play in Wimbledon. Now we have to see when he can start training again. I hope that he will be able to play again in July. But he should be healthy at the time of the US Open.

So Zverev is out of Wimbledon, and Medvedev is banned from Wimbledon. And maybe some other top players will choose to skip it because there are no ranking points.
But what about Nadal and Djokovic, both chasing more slam titles to be the greatest ever? Presumably they will play, as it's a great opportunity for them to get a relatively easy route through to the final... and for Nadal in particular, chasing the calendar slam.

If there was not the chance for calendar slam I would be quite sure that Nadal is skipping Wimbledon. As it stands now with Zverev and Medvedev missing I am thinking he is liking his chances very much and that he will do anything to play in it. Even if it means risking a bigger injury since he is aware this is his last chance to get that calendar slam, time is not on his side.

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