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Quote from: Trofo on January 20, 2022, 04:24:51 AM

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Quote from: Jating on January 20, 2022, 01:29:51 AM

Murray vs Daniel will also be next, Andy is the favourite per ML, but I will go over 35.5 @1.91 boosted. I think this will be an extended game and will not be easy for Murray to win.

As we might have expected, Murray is struggling and is a set down against an opponent ranked #120 in the world.
The problem is not his ability, it's his recovery... a long 5-set win in the last round against a top player was always going to take it out of him, it's the same as we saw last season, a great win against a top player is almost always followed by a real struggle against a much lower ranked player.

I feel bad for Murray, but from a betting perspective there is a clear pattern.

He is down 0-2 sets already, but leading in the 3rd set, maybe he will rally in the 3rd and at least win a set. But it's going to be very difficult for him it this is going to last for a 5th set. And if ever he will win, he will have to fight the next day and we all know that as we gets old the recovery of our body is slowing down.

As for the over bet, well at least Murray needs to win this set so that you will get a win. But if Daniel wins, then the bet is lost.

Murray lost that break and it does not look good for him. Wanted to watch a bit of that match but how when there is Medvedev - Kyrgios on at the same time? Some really interesting shots in this one, Kyrgios with his under arm serve and some great volleys, both with some strange but effective shots, good serving and even better returning. And of course Kyrgios complaining about serve clock, public, ref....you know the drill. Great watching for sure.

Ah here we go again with Kyrgios and his antics, it doesnt doesnt do him any good,
he still lost. He needs to re-focus on his mentality and game, he has great talent
but just wrongly applied.

Medvedev on the other hand did seriously well to beat the audience again, he really
cannot be phased by this, mentally strong. He is someone who has changed his game
and mentality and is benefiting from it.

I had him to win do thats good but my other one on Muguruza not unfortunately.

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Shame about Raducanu losing. IIRC she did have a problem with a blister vs Sloane Stephens, but it really became a major issue today. TBH I'm quite impressed with how she managed to stay in the match and adapt her play to compensate for the discomfort and still be competitive. And her attitude is very good I think. Some people will look at the result and think 'oh, she's lost in an early round again', but actually there is quite a bit more to the story (particularly as she has also only just come back from Covid). I do think she'll have a very strong 2022.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 20, 2022, 03:49:22 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 20, 2022, 03:25:23 AM

Quote from: Jating on January 20, 2022, 01:29:51 AM

Murray vs Daniel will also be next, Andy is the favourite per ML, but I will go over 35.5 @1.91 boosted. I think this will be an extended game and will not be easy for Murray to win.

As we might have expected, Murray is struggling and is a set down against an opponent ranked #120 in the world.
The problem is not his ability, it's his recovery... a long 5-set win in the last round against a top player was always going to take it out of him, it's the same as we saw last season, a great win against a top player is almost always followed by a real struggle against a much lower ranked player.

I feel bad for Murray, but from a betting perspective there is a clear pattern.

He is down 0-2 sets already, but leading in the 3rd set, maybe he will rally in the 3rd and at least win a set. But it's going to be very difficult for him it this is going to last for a 5th set. And if ever he will win, he will have to fight the next day and we all know that as we gets old the recovery of our body is slowing down.

As for the over bet, well at least Murray needs to win this set so that you will get a win. But if Daniel wins, then the bet is lost.

Murray lost that break and it does not look good for him. Wanted to watch a bit of that match but how when there is Medvedev - Kyrgios on at the same time? Some really interesting shots in this one, Kyrgios with his under arm serve and some great volleys, both with some strange but effective shots, good serving and even better returning. And of course Kyrgios complaining about serve clock, public, ref....you know the drill. Great watching for sure.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 20, 2022, 03:25:23 AM

Quote from: Jating on January 20, 2022, 01:29:51 AM

Murray vs Daniel will also be next, Andy is the favourite per ML, but I will go over 35.5 @1.91 boosted. I think this will be an extended game and will not be easy for Murray to win.

As we might have expected, Murray is struggling and is a set down against an opponent ranked #120 in the world.
The problem is not his ability, it's his recovery... a long 5-set win in the last round against a top player was always going to take it out of him, it's the same as we saw last season, a great win against a top player is almost always followed by a real struggle against a much lower ranked player.

I feel bad for Murray, but from a betting perspective there is a clear pattern.

He is down 0-2 sets already, but leading in the 3rd set, maybe he will rally in the 3rd and at least win a set. But it's going to be very difficult for him it this is going to last for a 5th set. And if ever he will win, he will have to fight the next day and we all know that as we gets old the recovery of our body is slowing down.

As for the over bet, well at least Murray needs to win this set so that you will get a win. But if Daniel wins, then the bet is lost.

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Quote from: Jating on January 20, 2022, 01:29:51 AM

Murray vs Daniel will also be next, Andy is the favourite per ML, but I will go over 35.5 @1.91 boosted. I think this will be an extended game and will not be easy for Murray to win.

As we might have expected, Murray is struggling and is a set down against an opponent ranked #120 in the world.
The problem is not his ability, it's his recovery... a long 5-set win in the last round against a top player was always going to take it out of him, it's the same as we saw last season, a great win against a top player is almost always followed by a real struggle against a much lower ranked player.

I feel bad for Murray, but from a betting perspective there is a clear pattern.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 19, 2022, 10:21:03 PM

Quote from: Joca97 on January 19, 2022, 10:01:42 PM

Quote from: aoluain on January 19, 2022, 04:05:01 PM

Quote from: Trofo on January 19, 2022, 02:13:32 PM

Did you guys see the point when Busta made a break today? Never seen something like this, his opponent hit smash with border of the racket and ball got wicked rotation and jumped back into his own half. Busta saw what will happen and run around the net to make the point. Everything by the rules but very rare to see.

No, but I watched it on YT and yea its a very strange one, Pablo did well to read that
play and win the point making sure not to touch the net himself.

Griekspoor's smash off the racket frame created massive backspin so as it bounced in
to make the point it headed back over the net, Carre o Busta had to hit that point to win,
it doesnt matter from where.

https://youtu.be/KKw0DdCFbM0

Wow i never seen anything like this in my life this is something that is for the first time seen in tennis history honestly.
But i dont know how legal it is i think there is a rule if your racket goes over the net into the opponents field you lose the point i think. He went around but still was in his half. I dont know if im on point but still this is insane.

Yeah, how insane it is, but I think it is legal as long as the racquet didn't touch the net.

Tsitsipas vs Baez in the next 30 minutes, I put a good bet on Tsitsipas -8.5, I think he can cover this handicap against Baez.

Alcaraz vs Berretini - this might be a good game to watch, and I'm betting on the over on this game as this game might extend to either 4 or 5 sets.

It's a tough one for Tsitsipas, the game scored: 7-6, 6-7 going into the 3rd set. So it will be tough for him to cover that spread, just saying.

Murray vs Daniel will also be next, Andy is the favourite per ML, but I will go over 35.5 @1.91 boosted. I think this will be an extended game and will not be easy for Murray to win.

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Quote from: Joca97 on January 19, 2022, 10:01:42 PM

Quote from: aoluain on January 19, 2022, 04:05:01 PM

Quote from: Trofo on January 19, 2022, 02:13:32 PM

Did you guys see the point when Busta made a break today? Never seen something like this, his opponent hit smash with border of the racket and ball got wicked rotation and jumped back into his own half. Busta saw what will happen and run around the net to make the point. Everything by the rules but very rare to see.

No, but I watched it on YT and yea its a very strange one, Pablo did well to read that
play and win the point making sure not to touch the net himself.

Griekspoor's smash off the racket frame created massive backspin so as it bounced in
to make the point it headed back over the net, Carre o Busta had to hit that point to win,
it doesnt matter from where.

https://youtu.be/KKw0DdCFbM0

Wow i never seen anything like this in my life this is something that is for the first time seen in tennis history honestly.
But i dont know how legal it is i think there is a rule if your racket goes over the net into the opponents field you lose the point i think. He went around but still was in his half. I dont know if im on point but still this is insane.

Yeah, how insane it is, but I think it is legal as long as the racquet didn't touch the net.

Tsitsipas vs Baez in the next 30 minutes, I put a good bet on Tsitsipas -8.5, I think he can cover this handicap against Baez.

Alcaraz vs Berretini - this might be a good game to watch, and I'm betting on the over on this game as this game might extend to either 4 or 5 sets.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 19, 2022, 04:05:01 PM

Quote from: Trofo on January 19, 2022, 02:13:32 PM

Did you guys see the point when Busta made a break today? Never seen something like this, his opponent hit smash with border of the racket and ball got wicked rotation and jumped back into his own half. Busta saw what will happen and run around the net to make the point. Everything by the rules but very rare to see.

No, but I watched it on YT and yea its a very strange one, Pablo did well to read that
play and win the point making sure not to touch the net himself.

Griekspoor's smash off the racket frame created massive backspin so as it bounced in
to make the point it headed back over the net, Carre o Busta had to hit that point to win,
it doesnt matter from where.

https://youtu.be/KKw0DdCFbM0

Wow i never seen anything like this in my life this is something that is for the first time seen in tennis history honestly.
But i dont know how legal it is i think there is a rule if your racket goes over the net into the opponents field you lose the point i think. He went around but still was in his half. I dont know if im on point but still this is insane.

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Quote from: BALIK on January 19, 2022, 02:19:15 PM

Although Murray made a return but I doubt that he will ever be able to get back to his top form.
Agree or not, I feel like he has left his golden past way in the past, and now all he should do is play for fun. As I don't think that he will be able to compete against A-tier players to win any tournament. Even last game he was struggling. His pace has declined a lot and so has his strength.

With all his injuries and his operations, it is already a small miracle that Murray is still playing at this level. He will never be able to get back to his old level and he will be able to win some matches (even against A-tier players), but I don't think he is (physical) capable to go all the way anymore.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 19, 2022, 02:13:32 PM

Did you guys see the point when Busta made a break today? Never seen something like this, his opponent hit smash with border of the racket and ball got wicked rotation and jumped back into his own half. Busta saw what will happen and run around the net to make the point. Everything by the rules but very rare to see.

No, but I watched it on YT and yea its a very strange one, Pablo did well to read that
play and win the point making sure not to touch the net himself.

Griekspoor's smash off the racket frame created massive backspin so as it bounced in
to make the point it headed back over the net, Carre o Busta had to hit that point to win,
it doesnt matter from where.

https://youtu.be/KKw0DdCFbM0

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Quote from: Strongkored on January 18, 2022, 11:33:45 PM

Quote from: babygun on January 18, 2022, 07:30:28 PM

Wasn't able to really see some matches yet, only some highlights, but too bad that Goffin is already out in the first round with 3-0. He used to be a (very) good player, even reached the top 10, but the last couple of years he is only a shadow of himself...

He lost his touch after a long injury, this is often the case with big players after long injuries it takes a struggle to get back to the top, Murray and Cilic are one of them.
Yesterday Murray needed a long time to go to the next round, an interesting match but doubted he would be able to go further with his current condition needing extra energy to stay in this major tournament.

Although Murray made a return but I doubt that he will ever be able to get back to his top form.
Agree or not, I feel like he has left his golden past way in the past, and now all he should do is play for fun. As I don't think that he will be able to compete against A-tier players to win any tournament. Even last game he was struggling. His pace has declined a lot and so has his strength.

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Did you guys see the point when Busta made a break today? Never seen something like this, his opponent hit smash with border of the racket and ball got wicked rotation and jumped back into his own half. Busta saw what will happen and run around the net to make the point. Everything by the rules but very rare to see.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 19, 2022, 05:14:51 AM

A lot of problems for Shapovalov against Soonwoo Kwon - they played 3 tie-brakes in the first 3 sets. Shapovalov eventually managed to break a few times when needed but he is probably very tired after a game like this.
He is playing Opelka next - won't be easy for him but it's a match I am looking forward to.
After easily beating Kokkinakis, Hanfmann was easy prey for Nadal. He did not have great opposition so far but has started really strong. Let's see him against Khackhanov.

It was quite an entertaining match, to be honest. 3 tiebreakers in the first 3 sets are quite a nail-biter Shocked

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But you know, Shapolov eventually won the game by winning the last set 6-2 but it was quite a long match and he will be exhausted. Him vs Opelka match will also be a good one but Opelka might have an edge I would guess as he is quite fresh compared to Shapolov, am I right?

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^^
Yes Nadal had a good win and seems to have a nice route avoiding big players.

For todays games I'm being cautious and doing 2 bets, Medvedev and Muguruza,
conservative and safe enough I hope,

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^^ Nadal has really recovered and it looks like he is healthy 100%.

So it was an easy route for him, but as you have said, in the next game, he will be facing a good player Khachanov so it will be a big test for him. Nevertheless, it might be close though, and if the odds are like -5.5 to -6.5 for him, I might take him, but if it a bit higher, then maybe I will look for other good odds in his match.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 19, 2022, 05:14:51 AM

A lot of problems for Shapovalov against Soonwoo Kwon - they played 3 tie-brakes in the first 3 sets. Shapovalov eventually managed to break a few times when needed but he is probably very tired after a game like this.
He is playing Opelka next - won't be easy for him but it's a match I am looking forward to.

It was indeed a 5 setter win for Shapovalov, a comeback win for him. He was down a 2-1, but he had to rally and win the last 2 sets. And I think that's what separates him from the game. Kwon lacks experienced and when Shapovalov win in the 4th 7-5, he just melted away in the 5th set.

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 19, 2022, 05:14:51 AM

After easily beating Kokkinakis, Hanfmann was easy prey for Nadal. He did not have great opposition so far but has started really strong. Let's see him against Khackhanov.

Nadal was really the favourite on that game, and if I'm not mistaken, the handicap opening was -10.5 for him to win against Hanfmann. It might be a tough one coming up next for him against Khachanov, but I think Nadal will win in straight sets again.

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A lot of problems for Shapovalov against Soonwoo Kwon - they played 3 tie-brakes in the first 3 sets. Shapovalov eventually managed to break a few times when needed but he is probably very tired after a game like this.
He is playing Opelka next - won't be easy for him but it's a match I am looking forward to.

After easily beating Kokkinakis, Hanfmann was easy prey for Nadal. He did not have great opposition so far but has started really strong. Let's see him against Khackhanov.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 18, 2022, 04:36:24 PM

Quote from: aoluain on January 18, 2022, 02:07:02 PM

TBH it is looking a bit unpredictable bar Barty, Muguruza, Medvedev and Zverev,
thats how it feels to me so im holding off with betting tomorrow.

Not many value matches tonight but I have to play something so I went with:
Karatsev ML @1.55, I am a bit afraid of his tendency to make unforced errors but he is much better player
Bencic ML @1.6, odds are this high because her opponent has a nice win streak but Benici is 4 times better player so i expect her to get this easy
Ram/Salisbury to win 2:0, they are playing against guys who never played a professional doubles match so should be a slam dunk

Yes handy enough win by Ram/Salisbury. Vencic is playing at the moment and has
lost the first set, its on serve in the second so hopefully she can take it to 3 sets
and secure the win for you Trofo.

Quote from: Strongkored on January 18, 2022, 11:33:45 PM

Quote from: babygun on January 18, 2022, 07:30:28 PM

Wasn't able to really see some matches yet, only some highlights, but too bad that Goffin is already out in the first round with 3-0. He used to be a (very) good player, even reached the top 10, but the last couple of years he is only a shadow of himself...

He lost his touch after a long injury, this is often the case with big players after long injuries it takes a struggle to get back to the top, Murray and Cilic are one of them.
Yesterday Murray needed a long time to go to the next round, an interesting match but doubted he would be able to go further with his current condition needing extra energy to stay in this major tournament.

What Andy does have is immense skill, which is with his fitness level compensating for
his lower maneuverability and speed. In some tournaments last year he also
had a lot of 5 set wins but against say the top 5 he isnt going to keep with them.

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Quote from: babygun on January 18, 2022, 07:30:28 PM

Wasn't able to really see some matches yet, only some highlights, but too bad that Goffin is already out in the first round with 3-0. He used to be a (very) good player, even reached the top 10, but the last couple of years he is only a shadow of himself...

He lost his touch after a long injury, this is often the case with big players after long injuries it takes a struggle to get back to the top, Murray and Cilic are one of them.
Yesterday Murray needed a long time to go to the next round, an interesting match but doubted he would be able to go further with his current condition needing extra energy to stay in this major tournament.

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