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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 17, 2022, 03:40:47 PM

Quote from: aoluain on January 17, 2022, 02:54:15 PM

Just watched the highlights of Nadal v Giron on Eurosport, oh Rafa looks quite sharp
winning in 3 sets, great to see him back.

He is looking sharp, yes. And he did win the Melbourne Summer Set tournament the other week. A contender for the title, or is that going too far? It's is difficult to know where all these players are at, quite a few of them seem to have had Covid over December, some come back below par, some seemingly right at their best... the Norrie/Korda match is a good example of this, you'd expect it normally to be fairly close, but both players had their preparations disrupted by positive Covid tests, which seems to have affected Norrie more. Might make the betting a little more unpredictable this year.

In principle, Giron has not set unsolvable tasks for Nadal and Rafa should be pleased that the match was won in three sets and no extra effort was spent to achieve a positive result. As far as I know, Nadal did not give any of his serves in the match, but let's not forget that the opponent is only number 66 in the world. On the other hand, while it can be argued that the transferred COVID does not seem to have had a very negative effect on Nadal's game and fitness, but it will be possible to talk about this with confidence later. However, historically Nadal has only one title in Australia in 2009, which on the one hand indicates less chances, but on the other hand this fact may be the opposite to spur the player.

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Some picks for the night:
Rinderknech to win against Popyrin @ 1.72, he is in much better form and I feel like Popyrin will gift this one away with loads of unforced errors
Machac -6.5 @1.65, he is in great form and i hope he will be able to cover this handi, also good bet and maybe a bit safer is set handicap -1.5
Berankis to win @ 1.5
Schwarzman set handi -1.5 @1.6
Gomez + 8.5, Ćilić rarly manages to win with such big handicaps but this one is risky, I am playing it only for low stake
Rublev and Sinner to win 3:0 or cover 7.5 handi, should pass for both

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Quote from: aoluain on January 17, 2022, 02:54:15 PM

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 17, 2022, 12:50:11 PM

Meanwhile (it feels like all my posts in this thread contain the phrase 'BREAKING NEWS!'), so i'll continue the trend here...

Breaking News!!!
The French sports minister has announced that all athletes will have to be vaccinated in order to attend and compete in sporting events in France.

Yea I saw this on Euronews today, I thought it was just a proposal but there we
are, trouble ahead for Djokovic.

The Djokovic case seems to have created a snowball that could soon roll across all sports.
People want to watch sports events, but if athletes do not want to vaccinate and follow the regulations, the organizers will be in very difficult situation, because sooner or later governments will have to ban tournaments. So to avoid this, all sports federations will now have to be very strict.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 17, 2022, 03:40:47 PM

Quote from: aoluain on January 17, 2022, 02:54:15 PM

Just watched the highlights of Nadal v Giron on Eurosport, oh Rafa looks quite sharp
winning in 3 sets, great to see him back.

He is looking sharp, yes. And he did win the Melbourne Summer Set tournament the other week. A contender for the title, or is that going too far? It's is difficult to know where all these players are at, quite a few of them seem to have had Covid over December, some come back below par, some seemingly right at their best... the Norrie/Korda match is a good example of this, you'd expect it normally to be fairly close, but both players had their preparations disrupted by positive Covid tests, which seems to have affected Norrie more. Might make the betting a little more unpredictable this year.

Yes nadal performance is looking good he can make it far in this tournament but winning the title is a really difficult task i dont think he will be able to in my opinion it will be either medvedev or zverev they are dominating right now and if they are not affected by covid i think we might see one of them as a champion.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 17, 2022, 02:54:15 PM

I'm out of funds on Sportsbet and not sure whether to change to a different
site because I cannot bet on Rugby with them.

Only other site I am comfortable to shill on people is Stake.com, but I doubt they have Rugby if Sportsbet does not. They are both using same odds provider but markets differ sometimes. For instance Stake offers 3 margins for tennis handicaps while Sportsbet offers just one. Stake has a bit higher regular odds usually but when you apply boost on Sportsbet you get much better odds there. So it all comes down to your preferences. I am using just Sportsbet now but I was almost exclusively on Stake about 2 years ago.

Will edit the post in an hour with tips for tonight. Just browsing trough the markets now.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 17, 2022, 02:54:15 PM

Just watched the highlights of Nadal v Giron on Eurosport, oh Rafa looks quite sharp
winning in 3 sets, great to see him back.

He is looking sharp, yes. And he did win the Melbourne Summer Set tournament the other week. A contender for the title, or is that going too far? It's is difficult to know where all these players are at, quite a few of them seem to have had Covid over December, some come back below par, some seemingly right at their best... the Norrie/Korda match is a good example of this, you'd expect it normally to be fairly close, but both players had their preparations disrupted by positive Covid tests, which seems to have affected Norrie more. Might make the betting a little more unpredictable this year.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 17, 2022, 05:54:59 AM

Quote from: Trofo on January 16, 2022, 03:42:53 PM

Some games I played:
Alcaraz to win 3:0 @2.1
Mofiels -7.5 @1.75, this one could end up as forfeit and void bet easy so be careful if you need the game for some bonus
Carreno Busta to win 3:0
Kokkinakis set handicap -1.5 @1.6
Azarenka -5.5 @ 1.6

Very happy how the first day went, everyone apart from Kokkinakis passed easy. Can't believe Kokkinakis lost 3:0 in sets, a guy withe serve like his should be able to at least get himself to tie break on his home tournament. I watched him against Cilic the other day and he was super solid, definitely more than enough to pass somebody like Hanfmann.

Well done Trofo, good result for today for you.

I'm out of funds on Sportsbet and not sure whether to change to a different
site because I cannot bet on Rugby with them.

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 17, 2022, 12:50:11 PM

Meanwhile (it feels like all my posts in this thread contain the phrase 'BREAKING NEWS!'), so i'll continue the trend here...

Breaking News!!!
The French sports minister has announced that all athletes will have to be vaccinated in order to attend and compete in sporting events in France.

Yea I saw this on Euronews today, I thought it was just a proposal but there we
are, trouble ahead for Djokovic.

Just watched the highlights of Nadal v Giron on Eurosport, oh Rafa looks quite sharp
winning in 3 sets, great to see him back.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 17, 2022, 05:43:46 AM

Quote from: AndySt on January 16, 2022, 06:59:09 PM

a three-year ban from coming to Australia.

because of what happened and his age, Djokovic probably lost the chance to ever perform again at the Australia GS.

I don't think they'll apply the 3-year ruling. They've already made some conciliatory comments about that. I would expect he'll be there next year (unless the pandemic is still going on...).

Meanwhile (it feels like all my posts in this thread contain the phrase 'BREAKING NEWS!'), so i'll continue the trend here...

Breaking News!!!
The French sports minister has announced that all athletes will have to be vaccinated in order to attend and compete in sporting events in France.

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The French sports minister, Roxana Maracineanu, has announced that athletes would not be exempt from France’s Covid pass, which will soon come into effect for over 16s. “The vaccination pass has been adopted. As soon as the law is promulgated, it will become mandatory to enter public buildings already subject to the health pass (stadium, theatre or lounge) for all spectators, practitioners, French or foreign professionals”

So the way it's going, he won't be able to compete at the French Open, either. Next stop Wimbledon?

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Quote from: Trofo on January 17, 2022, 05:54:59 AM

Quote from: Trofo on January 16, 2022, 03:42:53 PM

Some games I played:
Alcaraz to win 3:0 @2.1
Mofiels -7.5 @1.75, this one could end up as forfeit and void bet easy so be careful if you need the game for some bonus
Carreno Busta to win 3:0
Kokkinakis set handicap -1.5 @1.6
Azarenka -5.5 @ 1.6

Very happy how the first day went, everyone apart from Kokkinakis passed easy. Can't believe Kokkinakis lost 3:0 in sets, a guy withe serve like his should be able to at least get himself to tie break on his home tournament. I watched him against Cilic the other day and he was super solid, definitely more than enough to pass somebody like Hanfmann.

Congrats for some good wins even I am not good supporter of tennis betting because it's never been good for me as happen in this but still very good selections from your side specially I love Alcaraz and Carreno Busta but sadly put these all in parlay which was big mistake and give not good retune after Kokkinakis, but small bet with just two above players give better result which was good encouragement at the end of this all hopefully try with some other way in future if I have time for checking these tennis matches here and live sadly right now due to some personal commitments not able to give more time for this all.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 16, 2022, 03:42:53 PM

Some games I played:
Alcaraz to win 3:0 @2.1
Mofiels -7.5 @1.75, this one could end up as forfeit and void bet easy so be careful if you need the game for some bonus
Carreno Busta to win 3:0
Kokkinakis set handicap -1.5 @1.6
Azarenka -5.5 @ 1.6

Very happy how the first day went, everyone apart from Kokkinakis passed easy. Can't believe Kokkinakis lost 3:0 in sets, a guy withe serve like his should be able to at least get himself to tie break on his home tournament. I watched him against Cilic the other day and he was super solid, definitely more than enough to pass somebody like Hanfmann.

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Quote from: AndySt on January 16, 2022, 06:59:09 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on January 16, 2022, 06:45:46 AM

Honestly, I think everyone is glad that this drama with Djokovic is over and now, finally, we can all enjoy tennis.
Depending on the development of the situation with Covid and the new Covid rules in France, the UK and the USA, it could easily happen that Djokovic will be banned from participating in all 4 GS tournaments if he refuses to be vaccinated.
What a senseless waste of tremendous tennis talent because of his own attitudes and thinking.
Djokovic had a great opportunity to become the greatest tennis player of all time and now the ''Björn Borg'' case could be repeated, that the tennis player at the peak of his career abruptly interrupted his magnificent tennis career, for no good reason.
Djokovic is getting older every year and he is nearing the end of his great tennis career and new young tennis players are already coming and they are ready to take over the tennis top from Djokovic.
If Djokovic loses this year because of his hard-line views on vaccination, I don't think there will be a new chance for him to take over the top tennis and he will end his tennis career in a shameful way.

I am also extremely disappointed with the position that Djokovic has taken and the actions that he and his team have taken to circumvent the rules. By the way, Novak faces not only problems with participation in the remaining Grand Slam tournaments, but also a three-year ban from coming to Australia. On the other hand, the actions of the tournament organizers also deserve more consideration, who did not behave correctly because of financial profit, because if Djokovic arrived in Australia, he must have been given some guarantees by the organizers, otherwise I think Novak would hardly have got involved in this adventure with PCR tests and medical withdrawals from vaccinations.

You're right, because of what happened and his age, Djokovic probably lost the chance to ever perform again at the Australia GS.
Still, I’m glad this drama is finally over and we can now finally start enjoying tennis Cheesy

I look at the current results and for now there are no surprises, all the favorites are winning.
I'm glad to see that Osaka has successfully returned to tennis, Nadal was very convincing, Barty too, Zverev is struggling a bit at the moment etc.
Thank God we can finally only talk about tennis Grin

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As @Trofo says Rafa may go far but probably not to the final but for sure
he will be targeting the French GS.

Not a great start to my AO betting with 2 losses.

Harris beaten by Vukic who is a wildcard entry

Kenin beaten by the favourite Madison Keys, I thought it was worth a bet
against Keys as we have seen so often winning one tournament can
result in an early exit from the next but yea Kenin has become unpredictable
and seems to be struggling mentally through some matches.

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@aoluain - I think Rafa still got it, if not for being injured or sideline at the bottom half of the year, he could have compete more.

So for sure, he will be back and try to win another Grand slam and not look at the records of Federer. He simply needs to compete and go for a win. He will be extra motivated again that's for sure and then if ever he accomplishes it then that is the time he will talk about breaking records in public. So still has that competitive fire in him, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 16, 2022, 06:45:46 AM

Honestly, I think everyone is glad that this drama with Djokovic is over and now, finally, we can all enjoy tennis.
Depending on the development of the situation with Covid and the new Covid rules in France, the UK and the USA, it could easily happen that Djokovic will be banned from participating in all 4 GS tournaments if he refuses to be vaccinated.
What a senseless waste of tremendous tennis talent because of his own attitudes and thinking.
Djokovic had a great opportunity to become the greatest tennis player of all time and now the ''Björn Borg'' case could be repeated, that the tennis player at the peak of his career abruptly interrupted his magnificent tennis career, for no good reason.
Djokovic is getting older every year and he is nearing the end of his great tennis career and new young tennis players are already coming and they are ready to take over the tennis top from Djokovic.
If Djokovic loses this year because of his hard-line views on vaccination, I don't think there will be a new chance for him to take over the top tennis and he will end his tennis career in a shameful way.

I am also extremely disappointed with the position that Djokovic has taken and the actions that he and his team have taken to circumvent the rules. By the way, Novak faces not only problems with participation in the remaining Grand Slam tournaments, but also a three-year ban from coming to Australia. On the other hand, the actions of the tournament organizers also deserve more consideration, who did not behave correctly because of financial profit, because if Djokovic arrived in Australia, he must have been given some guarantees by the organizers, otherwise I think Novak would hardly have got involved in this adventure with PCR tests and medical withdrawals from vaccinations.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 16, 2022, 12:49:09 PM

Do you think Rafa will have extra motive to win this year, I know it will
be tricky for him but to win this 21st slam and get one up on Roger and Novak
will be something very special. ?

Rafa will have extra motive but I don't think he has a chance. Medvedev, Zverev and quite possibly a couple more players like Rublev, Berettini and Sinner have much better hard court form at the moment. Despite his age I still think best of 5 works in Nadal favor so Nadal will do well but I don't see him getting to the final. Semi final seems like most probable exit point for him since he has solid draw.

Some games I played:
Alcaraz to win 3:0 @2.1
Mofiels -7.5 @1.75, this one could end up as forfeit and void bet easy so be careful if you need the game for some bonus
Carreno Busta to win 3:0
Kokkinakis set handicap -1.5 @1.6
Azarenka -5.5 @ 1.6

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 16, 2022, 10:58:31 AM

If his new diet has made him into Superman, then he may see the vaccine as his kryptonite. That's all.

Sorry Cnut237 I was not doubting about your point of view. I was aware of your perspective and I am totally agree with you.

What is really surprising to me is that point:

Quote from: bitbollo on January 16, 2022, 09:06:02 AM

I don't know how a smart player (that is like an industry) with a smart staff, could fall victim of some controversial theories....

How it's possible that all people behind his entourage have fallen in such delicate argument? He lost the chance to join & win another tournament + spend money in lawyers + get negative promotion + loss of sponsorship and so on (even problems with future tournaments not only in AUS)....
It's something crazy that a player at certain level (and people behind him) have lost completely light of reason... there was not a single Medical Doctor able to explain how it work a vaccine? and serious risks related covid19 ? I'm still shocked for that mistake...

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Quote from: Trofo on January 16, 2022, 03:23:01 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 16, 2022, 02:16:28 AM

Breaking news... Djokovic's appeal has been rejected and he'll be deported.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-60014059

That was his final appeal, so it's definitely happening now. He officially "poses a threat to public health", and will be deported.

No-one comes out of this looking good.

What a drama and series of bad decisions. Hope now it is all settled and we can actually start to talk about tennis and enjoy some good matches. AO is stating tonight for us Europeans so lots of matches to scout and make some bets. Will probably drop by later with some of my selections if there is anything good. Hate odds at BO5 matches, they are always so low on ML and handicaps have a way to go wrong in them as well. Players often leave one set without fight and conserve their energy for the rest of the match.

Exactly, now we finally can start talking about the AO itself as Djokovic dominated the news the last couple of days. It has been a lot of unnecessary drama but in the end the AO government took the right decision. Haven't had time yet to check the first round matches yet but will be curious to see your picks!

Yes please lets talk about the up coming games and how we plan to make
our bets. As Rafa said in this statement below from SkySports website,

"No one player is bigger than the Australian Open"

https://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/12110/12516804/novak-djokovic-set-to-be-deported-from-australia-after-losing-second-visa-appeal-hearing

We have debated Djokovic's journety pver the last week and its done, he's
going home and the tournament will continue.

Do you think Rafa will have extra motive to win this year, I know it will
be tricky for him but to win this 21st slam and get one up on Roger and Novak
will be something very special. ?

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Quote from: Trofo on January 16, 2022, 03:23:01 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on January 16, 2022, 02:16:28 AM

Breaking news... Djokovic's appeal has been rejected and he'll be deported.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-60014059

That was his final appeal, so it's definitely happening now. He officially "poses a threat to public health", and will be deported.

No-one comes out of this looking good.

What a drama and series of bad decisions. Hope now it is all settled and we can actually start to talk about tennis and enjoy some good matches. AO is stating tonight for us Europeans so lots of matches to scout and make some bets. Will probably drop by later with some of my selections if there is anything good. Hate odds at BO5 matches, they are always so low on ML and handicaps have a way to go wrong in them as well. Players often leave one set without fight and conserve their energy for the rest of the match.

Exactly, now we finally can start talking about the AO itself as Djokovic dominated the news the last couple of days. It has been a lot of unnecessary drama but in the end the AO government took the right decision. Haven't had time yet to check the first round matches yet but will be curious to see your picks!

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Quote from: bitbollo on January 16, 2022, 09:06:02 AM

well... Covid19 doesn't pollute your body? Long-covid isn't also another issue?
I don't want enter in a diatribe about Vaccine good/bad or it's working or not working. Plus this is not the right topic to talk about it.

Just to clear up any potential confusion... The Covid vaccines are extremely effective, and have saved countless lives already. I spend a lot of my time on this forum in the P&S section presenting data on vaccine efficacy, and refuting any ridiculous claims made by anti-vaxxers. I am extremely pro-vaccine.

Yes, Covid does affect your body, yes, long covid is another issue. I'm not disputing that at all. I'm simply offering a perspective on why someone in Djokovic's specific position who is already anti-vaccine, and has reached the pinnacle of their sport as a direct consequence of changing what they put into their body, might be reluctant to take the vaccine... even if it prevents him entering the AO.

If his new diet has made him into Superman, then he may see the vaccine as his kryptonite. That's all.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on January 16, 2022, 02:16:28 AM

Breaking news... Djokovic's appeal has been rejected and he'll be deported.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-60014059

That was his final appeal, so it's definitely happening now. He officially "poses a threat to public health", and will be deported.

No-one comes out of this looking good.

Australia does not joke around with their laws and regulations and this was always going to be the case after djokovic was found wanting.
Its unfortunate that he can not defend his title for the 2022 campaign because his not going to around for the competition which others see to be selfish of him for not taking the vaccine to avoid or the complications that hwve followed him.

Now with the joker out of the race it will be nice to see who will be the favorite now

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