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Quote from: Trofo on August 03, 2021, 03:53:48 AM

Quote from: Karartma1 on August 03, 2021, 02:58:07 AM

The program of Tuesday, August 3 at the Atp 500 tournament in Washington 2021 has a few interesting games on the board: the challenges continue on the U.S. concrete in preparation for the Us Open. I see great challenges between the American Kudla and the Spanish Lopez. Jannik Sinner will also be playing in the doubles with the American Sebastian Korda against Paire-Withrow.
It's not my gig, and I wouldn't know any good bet? Any hints?

Not putting my money on Washington today. I am expecting some strange results and there is no match that interests me today. Maybe tomorrow when all seeds enter the tournament.

Regarding the doubles match you mentioned it could be interesting to watch. Paire is always lots of fun on the pitch and he is solid double player, never seen any of the other guys playing doubles. I would put my money on Paire combination or over games, better odds and for me this match can go either way and probably gets decided in match tie break.

Well today we see the first mini upset, 16th seed Tiafoe was beaten by Brooksby.

There are also some tricky match up's today, seeds against non seeded players,
I find it hard to pick winners from these and the odds are quite close on sportsbet

Fritz (10) v Kudla - 1.35 - 3.10
Ymer v Millman(11) - 2.11 - 1.71
Sinner (5) v Ruusuvuori - 1.56 - 2.38
Bublik (9) v Nishikori - 2.37 - 1.57

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

It has to be said though that Đoković is one of the worst losers in sport. He always finds some injury or whatever, I remember when he was playing in Doha and Lopez was kicking his ass taht he forfeited because he said that sand got into his eyes. Then when he lost last season he said he couldn't play properly because some holy man died in Serbia or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, he's probably going to retire as a player with the most Grand Slams in tennis. But when he loses, it was never because the opponent was better.

I agree for 100% and that's exactly the reason why I don't like Djokovic. Federer or Nadal will always admit, that if they are beaten cleanly, that there opponent was simply better. While Djokovic will probably win the most GS, he will never ever be the GOAT in tennis but that's another discussion.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 02, 2021, 01:24:55 PM

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

~snip
US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

he would not skip US Open in any case, and probably not that injured as well, just finding an excuse for a loss
and will be a favorite there, not sure about Nadal, will he play at US Open, or skipping all tournaments until the end of the year? Medvedev, Zverev and Thiem could fight him on that surface, but on three sets, probably just make match more interesting

For sure Djokovic will not skip the US Open and he will still be one of the favourites going into this tournament. No final word for Nadal if he would enter in the tournament, but he is on the Citi Open in Washington. So we will see how his injury has, or if he has recovered or at least 90%. If he is good then definitely, win or lose in Citi Open he will enter the US Open as this is a bigger stage.

We will look at the situation with Novak, because he is still not iron and his body can malfunction due to increased load, and as you well understand, the weather conditions in Tokyo were clearly not ideal about the heat and humidity. Moreover, Novak had to play in several types of programs. It is clear that Novak is very disappointed, because there was an opportunity to win all the Grand Slam tournaments and the Olympics in one season, but fate and fortune clearly had other plans in this regard. Let's hope that Rafa Nadal did not miss the Olympics for nothing and was able to really improve his health on the eve of the US Open and will also be able to claim the title.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 02, 2021, 03:17:21 PM

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

~snip
US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

he would not skip US Open in any case, and probably not that injured as well, just finding an excuse for a loss
and will be a favorite there, not sure about Nadal, will he play at US Open, or skipping all tournaments until the end of the year? Medvedev, Zverev and Thiem could fight him on that surface, but on three sets, probably just make match more interesting

For sure Djokovic will not skip the US Open and he will still be one of the favourites going into this tournament. No final word for Nadal if he would enter in the tournament, but he is on the Citi Open in Washington. So we will see how his injury has, or if he has recovered or at least 90%. If he is good then definitely, win or lose in Citi Open he will enter the US Open as this is a bigger stage.

Rafa will be using the Citi Open as a stepping stone or rebuilding tournament for the
U.S Open. With Rafa and Djokovic on 20 Slams each I would love to see a battle
royale between them.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, stepping stone for him and then hopefully when US Open comes along, he has somewhat regain his form entering the US Open.

Hopefully they will not be in the same draw, so that maybe we might see them in the finals. But for sure the road will be tougher as a lot of seeded players are going to enter this tournament.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on August 03, 2021, 02:58:07 AM

The program of Tuesday, August 3 at the Atp 500 tournament in Washington 2021 has a few interesting games on the board: the challenges continue on the U.S. concrete in preparation for the Us Open. I see great challenges between the American Kudla and the Spanish Lopez. Jannik Sinner will also be playing in the doubles with the American Sebastian Korda against Paire-Withrow.
It's not my gig, and I wouldn't know any good bet? Any hints?

Not putting my money on Washington today. I am expecting some strange results and there is no match that interests me today. Maybe tomorrow when all seeds enter the tournament.

Regarding the doubles match you mentioned it could be interesting to watch. Paire is always lots of fun on the pitch and he is solid double player, never seen any of the other guys playing doubles. I would put my money on Paire combination or over games, better odds and for me this match can go either way and probably gets decided in match tie break.

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The program of Tuesday, August 3 at the Atp 500 tournament in Washington 2021 has a few interesting games on the board: the challenges continue on the U.S. concrete in preparation for the Us Open. I see great challenges between the American Kudla and the Spanish Lopez. Jannik Sinner will also be playing in the doubles with the American Sebastian Korda against Paire-Withrow.
It's not my gig, and I wouldn't know any good bet? Any hints?

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Quote from: Trofo on August 01, 2021, 04:57:09 PM

Quote from: aoluain on August 01, 2021, 04:38:48 PM

He is definitely beatable but harder to beat in a GS

Best of five sets matches give that little bit of extra security and time for top players to find their way to victory. Both Djokovic and Nadal are much tougher to beat in those long matches. Granted, if his shoulder injury is real than extra time would not have helped him this time around.

I was not so surprised with him losing to Zverev, he is a player that can beat anybody when in form. That loss against Busta was much bigger surprise for me, Busta is a player that simply has no weapons to power trough 100 percent ready Djokovic.

Thats a good point about the Grand Slams being the best of 5 sets, we saw already this
year where Djokovic gave away 2 sets and came back to win the French open v Tsitsipas.

Quote from: btc_angela on August 02, 2021, 01:24:55 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on August 02, 2021, 05:22:32 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

~snip
US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

he would not skip US Open in any case, and probably not that injured as well, just finding an excuse for a loss
and will be a favorite there, not sure about Nadal, will he play at US Open, or skipping all tournaments until the end of the year? Medvedev, Zverev and Thiem could fight him on that surface, but on three sets, probably just make match more interesting

For sure Djokovic will not skip the US Open and he will still be one of the favourites going into this tournament. No final word for Nadal if he would enter in the tournament, but he is on the Citi Open in Washington. So we will see how his injury has, or if he has recovered or at least 90%. If he is good then definitely, win or lose in Citi Open he will enter the US Open as this is a bigger stage.

Rafa will be using the Citi Open as a stepping stone or rebuilding tournament for the
U.S Open. With Rafa and Djokovic on 20 Slams each I would love to see a battle
royale between them.

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Quote from: btc_angela on August 02, 2021, 01:24:55 PM

Quote from: casperBGD on August 02, 2021, 05:22:32 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

~snip
US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

he would not skip US Open in any case, and probably not that injured as well, just finding an excuse for a loss
and will be a favorite there, not sure about Nadal, will he play at US Open, or skipping all tournaments until the end of the year? Medvedev, Zverev and Thiem could fight him on that surface, but on three sets, probably just make match more interesting

For sure Djokovic will not skip the US Open and he will still be one of the favourites going into this tournament. No final word for Nadal if he would enter in the tournament, but he is on the Citi Open in Washington. So we will see how his injury has, or if he has recovered or at least 90%. If he is good then definitely, win or lose in Citi Open he will enter the US Open as this is a bigger stage.

Rafa will be playing in the Citi Open on Wednesday, so for sure many will watch and see how his foot is after the injury. This is just a test tournament for him, so I'm not sure if he can win this tournament. His focus will be the US Open, so if he feels that he can still compete at the high level, then we can still see him in the tennis circuit. We might see him rusty, this is his first game tournament after almost a 2 month layoff.

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Quote from: casperBGD on August 02, 2021, 05:22:32 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

~snip
US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

he would not skip US Open in any case, and probably not that injured as well, just finding an excuse for a loss
and will be a favorite there, not sure about Nadal, will he play at US Open, or skipping all tournaments until the end of the year? Medvedev, Zverev and Thiem could fight him on that surface, but on three sets, probably just make match more interesting

For sure Djokovic will not skip the US Open and he will still be one of the favourites going into this tournament. No final word for Nadal if he would enter in the tournament, but he is on the Citi Open in Washington. So we will see how his injury has, or if he has recovered or at least 90%. If he is good then definitely, win or lose in Citi Open he will enter the US Open as this is a bigger stage.

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During the press conference before the tournament in Washington, there was no shortage of questions about the Olympic Games. Nadal expressed all his regret for not being able to participate in the Olympics, where he boasts two gold medals.
As you know Novak was beaten by Zverev, who then won the gold medal. Nole was then forced to forfeit the mixed doubles due to a shoulder problem. The hope is that he will recover as well as possible for the US Open. Nadal went on patronizing Novak as he threw away his racket because that's not a great teaching to kids....

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

~snip
US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

he would not skip US Open in any case, and probably not that injured as well, just finding an excuse for a loss
and will be a favorite there, not sure about Nadal, will he play at US Open, or skipping all tournaments until the end of the year? Medvedev, Zverev and Thiem could fight him on that surface, but on three sets, probably just make match more interesting

regarding match with Busta, it is obviously hard for Djokovic to play after lost match, and that was seen (it is also not a habit for any tennis player, after lose you go to other tournaments, not playing more matches on the same) - he is also bad after losing group matches on Final masters, usually snap in semi-final, after lose in a group

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Quote from: cryptofrka on August 02, 2021, 05:01:06 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on August 01, 2021, 08:54:17 PM

Let's see the extend of his injured shoulder in the US Open. But a 100% Djokovic is really hard to beat in any tournament.

US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

It has to be said though that Đoković is one of the worst losers in sport. He always finds some injury or whatever, I remember when he was playing in Doha and Lopez was kicking his ass taht he forfeited because he said that sand got into his eyes. Then when he lost last season he said he couldn't play properly because some holy man died in Serbia or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, he's probably going to retire as a player with the most Grand Slams in tennis. But when he loses, it was never because the opponent was better.

And that's what makes Federer and Nadal above him as greatest of all time because of his attitude. Both are good and shows sportsmanlike in defeat, unlike Djokovic though, I know that he is a competitor but sometimes he has a lot of excuses when he lost.

He can't just admit it specially if some lower rank players are playing good and he can't keep up with them, just like in the Zverev match.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 01, 2021, 08:54:17 PM

Let's see the extend of his injured shoulder in the US Open. But a 100% Djokovic is really hard to beat in any tournament.

US Open starts in a month or so, even if he was injured it will heal properly until then.

It has to be said though that Đoković is one of the worst losers in sport. He always finds some injury or whatever, I remember when he was playing in Doha and Lopez was kicking his ass taht he forfeited because he said that sand got into his eyes. Then when he lost last season he said he couldn't play properly because some holy man died in Serbia or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, he's probably going to retire as a player with the most Grand Slams in tennis. But when he loses, it was never because the opponent was better.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 01, 2021, 04:38:48 PM

Bencic did fantastic to win Gold and Silver. Great to see someone unpredictable winning.

Yeah, good win for Bencic, I'm mostly banking of Osaka to at least reach the finals.

Quote from: aoluain on August 01, 2021, 04:38:48 PM

And the same for Zverev, everyone including myself was prempting Djokovic for Gold and
possibly Tsitsipas to meet him but few talked about Zverev, well done to him and
unbelievable that Djokovic didnt even medal at all.

I too post high hopes on Tsitsipas but at the same time he is not that good in this surface. Zverev goes out of the radar for us and then he suddenly win his games and then eventually upsetting Djokovic, so also in the mens side, it is unpredictable.

Quote from: aoluain on August 01, 2021, 04:38:48 PM

He is definitely beatable but harder to beat in a GS

Let's see the extend of his injured shoulder in the US Open. But a 100% Djokovic is really hard to beat in any tournament.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 01, 2021, 04:57:09 PM

Quote from: aoluain on August 01, 2021, 04:38:48 PM

He is definitely beatable but harder to beat in a GS

Best of five sets matches give that little bit of extra security and time for top players to find their way to victory. Both Djokovic and Nadal are much tougher to beat in those long matches. Granted, if his shoulder injury is real than extra time would not have helped him this time around.
I was not so surprised with him losing to Zverev, he is a player that can beat anybody when in form. That loss against Busta was much bigger surprise for me, Busta is a player that simply has no weapons to power trough 100 percent ready Djokovic.

The most important thing is that Khachanov got to the final because before the final, few people expected that such a final would turn out and such players would play the final in the most important match of their lives. It's amazing how Djokovic started this season and already everyone seems to have started thinking, including himself, about winning the golden Slam, which only Steffi Graf had previously sworn, but it turned out that health is not unlimited and even such a super player cannot play on several fronts and play in the harsh conditions of the Olympics. Now we will see how Djokovic can recover and we mean that the young growth has felt the smell of blood and is ready to claim the highest titles.

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Quote from: virasog on August 01, 2021, 06:19:45 AM

Djokovic lost earlier was a big upset and i lost my bet that day. Sad

I know it was not easy to digest his loss in the race to Olympics gold medal. However after seeing today's match, i think Zverev deserve to win the title.

i also lost a lot on Djokovic, i made bets on him when he was losing against Zverev and against Carreno Busta, i didn't make any bet in Zverev vs Khachanov, the odds were pretty low for Zverev to win and i was expecting him to win 2-0 but was afraid something happens and khachanov wins a set, a well deserved win for Zverev in his young age, there still a lot to come for this guy in the future.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 01, 2021, 04:38:48 PM

He is definitely beatable but harder to beat in a GS

Best of five sets matches give that little bit of extra security and time for top players to find their way to victory. Both Djokovic and Nadal are much tougher to beat in those long matches. Granted, if his shoulder injury is real than extra time would not have helped him this time around.

I was not so surprised with him losing to Zverev, he is a player that can beat anybody when in form. That loss against Busta was much bigger surprise for me, Busta is a player that simply has no weapons to power trough 100 percent ready Djokovic.

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Bencic did fantastic to win Gold and Silver. Great to see someone unpredictable winning.

And the same for Zverev, everyone including myself was prempting Djokovic for Gold and
possibly Tsitsipas to meet him but few talked about Zverev, well done to him and
unbelievable that Djokovic didnt even medal at all.

He is definitely beatable but harder to beat in a GS

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In the Women's section Belinda Bencic won a gold medal in singles and a silver medal in women's doubles, a great achievement for her.

Quote from: casperBGD on August 01, 2021, 06:23:52 AM

Djokovic obviously did not forget his previous match with Busta, on last US Open, when he has hit the judge with the ball, to be disqualified in the end

But he has tried, it is obvious that the match lasted 3 sets meaning he is trying to get a medal, three defeats in 3 semifinals of the Olympics and one in mixed doubles it looks like the Olympics is not an easy tournament for his to beat.
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Quote from: Ratash on August 01, 2021, 06:07:23 AM

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Yes its a first and a well deserverd win he performed well and beaten djokovic with a comeback and today an easy win against khachanov he stopped his h2h domination in the last couple of games and honestly its his best achievement this year.

agree, congrats to Zverev, he won it, despite all eyes were on Djokovic and Golden slam
Khachanov made it to the final, and that is also a success, bearing in mind that there were better players knocked-out in that part of the draw

Busta took bronze, after having a win over Djokovic, that was to nervous to play, could say tired as well, but he would find strength, if he had been a bit less nervous

Djokovic obviously did not forget his previous match with Busta, on last US Open, when he has hit the judge with the ball, to be disqualified in the end

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