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Quote from: babygun on June 08, 2021, 10:00:47 AM

Even though Medvedev is playing good, there is some value in Tsitsipas to win in 3 sets (@2.95)

I quite like option of taking -1.5 set handicap in matches like this. It accounts for possibility of loosing concentration in one set and still offers solid odds. Problem is always loose with this selection even though it looks great in theory

Simple ML on Tsitsipas for me today. H2H is on Medvedev side but clay should be much better surface for Tsitisi even though he managed to loose their only clay match so far.

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On the women's side, I suppose Swiatek must be the overwhelming favourite now that most of the other contenders have fallen away. Not sure if anyone left in the draw can stop her. Coco Gauff maybe has an outside chance?

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 07, 2021, 11:07:24 PM

I also observed Djokovic style of play, we can't say if he is doing it on purpose or something, but he seems to take a dive early or even in the third set.

Just wait for the Nadal match, if they play each other... Djokovic will surely suffer a dramatic 'injury' which calls for a time-out just when the match is getting away from him, and then he'll just as dramatically recover instantly with no ill-effects whatsoever, almost as if the injury was simply him playing psychological games in an attempt to unsettle his opponent. Cheesy

He's a great player certainly, but these tricks are giving him a bad name.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 08, 2021, 07:40:01 AM

Just reading Musetti statement and it seems he forfeited because he could not win any point against Djoko Grin

He thought it was best to forfeit since public could not enjoy match like that. If true, I believe that was bad de.cision especially when the match is almost finished anyway. Not even gonna mention sport aspect of decision. I am smelling some betting scandal here in the future.

Could be press taking things out of context again, too bad I don't speak Italian to read original statement.

Haven't read the statement yet or watched the press conference, but if this is valid, I think it is reason for a fine or even suspension...

Quote from: TravelMug on June 07, 2021, 10:30:16 PM

Before the Djokovic vs Nadal eventual showdown, we will see another great tennis match, Tsitsipas vs Medvedev. Surprising to see Medvedev has reach a quarter final of a clay surface.

Tsitsipas though has a good run as well, and we all know that this is Tsitsipas best surface, so I'm expecting him to win in 4 sets. Will give 1 set for Medvedev. But if Tsitsipas comes firing in the first set, in might be over in 3. He is the favourite to win as per betting odds.

Even though Medvedev is playing good, there is some value in Tsitsipas to win in 3 sets (@2.95)

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^Hmm I never get people who forfeit, I mean, we've seen upsets before and you can always win something on a day, especially when the odds are against you, no pressure. Definitely fishy or some =]

But very happy my first longshot hit on this tourney day before yesterday (Medvedev straight sets, 2 aces per set, and no tie breaks) but it was a nervy final one to clinch the final point woo! Today going against him on a similar 15/1 though, each has to score 8 aces and 20 points but easy right? Wink

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Just reading Musetti statement and it seems he forfeited because he could not win any point against Djoko Grin

He thought it was best to forfeit since public could not enjoy match like that. If true, I believe that was bad decision especially when the match is almost finished anyway. Not even gonna mention sport aspect of decision. I am smelling some betting scandal here in the future.

Could be press taking things out of context again, too bad I don't speak Italian to read original statement.

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Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

I liked how Djoko came back after trailing by two sets to zero, he returned with three consecutive days before the opponent withdrew from the match.
The mental fortitude that this man possesses is very mythical, and even as he breathes his last, you enter into doubt and he may return and defeat you.
Djokovic.the hardest player to demoralize, he is recovering from the middle of the pile of bad, and it is no wonder that the next is a myth, because I see many things related to history numbers that this iron Serb may be afflicted with. Run away with any number you have in the yellow ball, I see it exceeded that and much more.

That is something I have observed several times in the past when it comes to Djokovic. He was even accused once of doing that on purpose for more or less unknown reasons. He loses two sets and out of a sudden it goes boom and he just destroys his opponent. He sometimes also has that when he leads like 2-0, and then he plays a third set as if he never had a racket in his hands. It's really weird from time to time.

Anyway, for all the fans of the clash between the titans, we are on track for Djokovic - Nadal! Wink

Sadly, it would be a semifinal though. Still worth watching a hopefully 5+ hours game! Tongue

Have fun guys!

Djokovic needs to overcome another good clay player in Berrettini. Maybe we can see another come from behind win by Djokovic assuming that Berrettini will go out and play like it is final.

I also observed Djokovic style of play, we can't say if he is doing it on purpose or something, but he seems to take a dive early or even in the third set. Maybe he want's to take a rest or preserved his energy for more grueling game ahead, but it doesn't make sense. As compare to let's say Nadal who will really give 100% in the first set and will bully his opponents into submission both physical and mental. Like what he did to Jannik, 6-0 on the last set.

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Before the Djokovic vs Nadal eventual showdown, we will see another great tennis match, Tsitsipas vs Medvedev. Surprising to see Medvedev has reach a quarter final of a clay surface.

Tsitsipas though has a good run as well, and we all know that this is Tsitsipas best surface, so I'm expecting him to win in 4 sets. Will give 1 set for Medvedev. But if Tsitsipas comes firing in the first set, in might be over in 3. He is the favourite to win as per betting odds.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 07, 2021, 02:58:21 PM

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Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

Federer knew that he would go against djokovic if he overcame berretini thats why he retired. Djokovic today from set 3 went into beast mode and destroyed Musseti . Only giving him 1 game in the next 3 sets that is just brutal

Yes it seems I was right for Federer when I told that 2 pages above (I was convinced Federer will not be able to reach the final rounds). Matteo Berrettini is 9th of the world wide ATP ranking while Roger Fedrer is currently 8th, then odds for a loss of Federer were high, and the match was expected to be pretty tight and hard for him. So I understand why Federer chose to withdraw, it's a wise decision for himself and for his knee I think. I hope he will be able to play again at least one last time on clay at Roland Garros for a French Open before ending his career though.

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The favorites and old masters, Federer, Djokovic have advanced to the next round and Nadal also looks like he is climbing without any effort. He'll definitely whine a little that his backhand needs to be improved, but that's a high level whine.

Yes they are all very strong but I don't think all the three will be able to qualify to the quarter finals. At the next round (the 4th round) Roger Federer will certainly meet Matteo Berrettini and odds will be low for an easy victory of Roger Federer. It will be very likely a hard fight for him. For Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal the way to reach the quarter finals will be certainly way more easy.

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Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

I liked how Djoko came back after trailing by two sets to zero, he returned with three consecutive days before the opponent withdrew from the match.
The mental fortitude that this man possesses is very mythical, and even as he breathes his last, you enter into doubt and he may return and defeat you.
Djokovic.the hardest player to demoralize, he is recovering from the middle of the pile of bad, and it is no wonder that the next is a myth, because I see many things related to history numbers that this iron Serb may be afflicted with. Run away with any number you have in the yellow ball, I see it exceeded that and much more.

That is something I have observed several times in the past when it comes to Djokovic. He was even accused once of doing that on purpose for more or less unknown reasons. He loses two sets and out of a sudden it goes boom and he just destroys his opponent. He sometimes also has that when he leads like 2-0, and then he plays a third set as if he never had a racket in his hands. It's really weird from time to time.

Anyway, for all the fans of the clash between the titans, we are on track for Djokovic - Nadal! Wink

Sadly, it would be a semifinal though. Still worth watching a hopefully 5+ hours game! Tongue

Have fun guys!

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Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

I liked how Djoko came back after trailing by two sets to zero, he returned with three consecutive days before the opponent withdrew from the match.
The mental fortitude that this man possesses is very mythical, and even as he breathes his last, you enter into doubt and he may return and defeat you.
Djokovic.the hardest player to demoralize, he is recovering from the middle of the pile of bad, and it is no wonder that the next is a myth, because I see many things related to history numbers that this iron Serb may be afflicted with. Run away with any number you have in the yellow ball, I see it exceeded that and much more.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 07, 2021, 02:58:21 PM

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Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

Federer knew that he would go against djokovic if he overcame berretini thats why he retired. Djokovic today from set 3 went into beast mode and destroyed Musseti . Only giving him 1 game in the next 3 sets that is just brutal

But Musetti got injured right? He was down 0-2, and after that it seems the Musetti has no gas and can't fight because of the injury. If he is healthy then maybe we can see the biggest upset today.

Maybe he really push himself in the winning the first 2 sets, too bad, so Djokovic is advancing.

Nadal too much for Sinner, as Rafa destroys him in 3 sets, bagel in the last set.

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Quote from: babygun on June 07, 2021, 12:06:57 PM

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Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

Federer knew that he would go against djokovic if he overcame berretini thats why he retired. Djokovic today from set 3 went into beast mode and destroyed Musseti . Only giving him 1 game in the next 3 sets that is just brutal

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 07, 2021, 11:34:42 AM

Quote from: babygun on June 07, 2021, 10:09:15 AM

Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

Too bad that Musetti got injured, would have been the biggest shock till now in this French Open. Djokovic will now play against Berrettini who got a walkover thanks to the forfait of Federer.

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Quote from: babygun on June 07, 2021, 10:09:15 AM

Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

After going through two sets with a tie break Djokovic was able to win in the 3rd and 4th sets, 5th set He lead 4-0.
It looks like Musetti was injured so he decided to retires, Musetti gave a tight fight if he wasn't injured maybe he could have beaten Djokovic.
https://twitter.com/atptour/status/1401916863060189184

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Yea watched the match between Williams and Rybakina, everyone (generally) is expecting
Serena to win that elusive 24th Grand Slam, its not going to happen.

Mats Wilander on Eurosport last night summed it up, he said that the younger generation
like Rybakina and they play like her now and are able to hit just as hard as Serena. Rybakina
was actually hitting the ball harder yesterday.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 06, 2021, 05:36:00 PM

Surprising defeat by Serena Williams

I'm not sure they're that surprising any more. She is looking more vulnerable with each passing tournament, and it's starting to look less likely that she'll break that total grand slam wins record.
But overall it's been a crazy tournament on the women's side, hardly any seeds remaining!

I think it is time for her to stop. She has won almost everything and has nothing to prove anymore. Chances that she will win one more grand slam are low, but never say never offcourse.

Quote from: casperBGD on June 07, 2021, 09:52:49 AM

interesting development between Djokovic and Musseti, it is 0:2 at the moment, and Djokovic is on medical time (probably to get himself together after two tie-breaks lost)
nevertheless, it is @1.9 on Djokovic to win the match in the end, and it is worth a try

important set is on, and 3rd set to win is good option, but low risk/reward

Good call for the moment as Djokovic is up 4-1 in the 3rd set.

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interesting development between Djokovic and Musseti, it is 0:2 at the moment, and Djokovic is on medical time (probably to get himself together after two tie-breaks lost)
nevertheless, it is @1.9 on Djokovic to win the match in the end, and it is worth a try

important set is on, and 3rd set to win is good option, but low risk/reward

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 06, 2021, 05:36:00 PM

Surprising defeat by Serena Williams

I'm not sure they're that surprising any more. She is looking more vulnerable with each passing tournament, and it's starting to look less likely that she'll break that total grand slam wins record.
But overall it's been a crazy tournament on the women's side, hardly any seeds remaining!

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^ I agree that Medvedev is not a clay court players, to be honest, I bet against him in his last 2 games. Grin

. So I was surprised of him still in the game and beating good clay court specialist.

Zverev is tearing this tournament and so is Tsitsipas, you just have to watch the first set and see how this 2 are performing. Hard to bet on them.

I'm taking Rafa over Sinner, maybe we can see Sinner at least winning 1 set here.

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Quote from: babygun on June 06, 2021, 10:38:14 AM

Quote from: aoluain on June 06, 2021, 09:37:48 AM

Yes I heard this earlier, I think he should retire while he is 100%, rather than risk an injury
in the next round which theoretically is going to be tougher against Berrettini and ruling him
out of Wimbledon. Lets face it and he knows himself he wont win RG.

I agree, his main focus is Wimbledon and it's better to stop now than keep forcing his body. If he stops now, he should be happy with his performance and can have high expectations for the next grandslams.

Quote from: Strongkored on June 06, 2021, 10:16:28 AM

Another match between C. Garin vs D. Medvedev the first set Medvedev has won and the second set He also lead by 3-0, surprising see Medvedev still stay in this French Open because if I am not mistaken in the previous few French Opens he always lost in the early rounds.

Medvedev also won easily set 2 with 6-1.

Medvedev is probably my favourite player on the mens side and TBH I havent been
following him much in RG, I was not expecting him to come this far, he isnt exactly
a clay court specialist but has done really well. BIG contest coming up tomorrow
for him against Tsitsipas. I'm not betting on this one.

Anyone watch Zverev v Nishikori? OMG Zverev was ruthless and despatched Kai
fairly handily.

My other favourite player on the mens side Sinner is playing Nadal today, he has been
up against Nadal in almost all the tournaments this year, unfortunately for him Nadal is
looking way too strong in RG, I'm not betting against Rafa.

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