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July 14, 2019, 11:35:34 AM
Well, numbers are very clear.
From 20 grand slams, Federer won 12 until 2007, until Djokovic and Nadal have become serious competitors.
From 2007 until now Federer won 8 grand slams and Djokovic 15.
I think a real turn has occurred in the US Open semifinals 2011.
Federer had a great 2-0 lead in the sets but Djokovic returned and balanced on 2-2.
In the last set Federer again had great lead 5:3 and 40:15 on his service but lost this game.
I think Federer never recovered from that defeat and began to be afraid of Djokovic.
In the next five and a half years Federer won only 1 grand slam.
So, because of this history I think that Djokovic has a much greater chance of winning today.



Federer is a great player and he is not some who is afraid of Djokovic. No one can remain champion forever and I think Federer had a great career and now his age factor wont let him win all the tournaments. Yet, you cannot compare the class of Federer with Djokovic. Federer is vastly more experienced of the two.

Well the competition is going tough at the moment. The game is in the fifth set and Djokovic just seems a bit more balanced than the Federer is. My bet for more than 4 sets yielded so does my expectation of an exciting match.
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July 14, 2019, 10:38:16 AM
Well, numbers are very clear.
From 20 grand slams, Federer won 12 until 2007, until Djokovic and Nadal have become serious competitors.
From 2007 until now Federer won 8 grand slams and Djokovic 15.
I think a real turn has occurred in the US Open semifinals 2011.
Federer had a great 2-0 lead in the sets but Djokovic returned and balanced on 2-2.
In the last set Federer again had great lead 5:3 and 40:15 on his service but lost this game.
I think Federer never recovered from that defeat and began to be afraid of Djokovic.
In the next five and a half years Federer won only 1 grand slam.
So, because of this history I think that Djokovic has a much greater chance of winning today.



Federer is a great player and he is not some who is afraid of Djokovic. No one can remain champion forever and I think Federer had a great career and now his age factor wont let him win all the tournaments. Yet, you cannot compare the class of Federer with Djokovic. Federer is vastly more experienced of the two.
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July 14, 2019, 06:50:36 AM
~snip~
Thanks for some serious insight. It's hard for anyone to achieve that Federer achieved so far.

Talking about this final? 
If Federer wins than another gem will be added with his career and for the one who will break his records will have another barrier to break. Anyway, still I am not sure who to put ahead. May be I will need to wait for the first set.
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July 14, 2019, 06:38:37 AM
Well, numbers are very clear.
From 20 grand slams, Federer won 12 until 2007, until Djokovic and Nadal have become serious competitors.
From 2007 until now Federer won 8 grand slams and Djokovic 15.
I think a real turn has occurred in the US Open semifinals 2011.
Federer had a great 2-0 lead in the sets but Djokovic returned and balanced on 2-2.
In the last set Federer again had great lead 5:3 and 40:15 on his service but lost this game.
I think Federer never recovered from that defeat and began to be afraid of Djokovic.
In the next five and a half years Federer won only 1 grand slam.
So, because of this history I think that Djokovic has a much greater chance of winning today.





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July 14, 2019, 05:34:39 AM
~snip~

I don't think that Federer was favorite against Nadal.
Nadal was very close to bring match in the fifth set and in that case I think that Nadal would turn the match to his advantage.
Federer already said after match that he is tired and I'm not sure how much he can recover until Sunday.
Djokovic is obvious favorite on Sunday but we shouldn't underestimated Federer.

It's not very easy to pick a winner when it's a match between Federer vs Djokovic or Djokovic vs Nadal or Federer vs Nadal. The one who will in best shape in the match day he will win. I hope one day off will pay off for Federer. It's hard to ignore the age factor.

In fact, we know that Nadal is always a big favorite in Roland Garros and Djokovic in Wimbledon, if he is ready 100 %, without some personal issues.
Federer long time didn't win some Grand Slam and it's obvious that his time passed.
Of course, he still have chances to win today.



How can you say that Federer didn't win for a long time? He won the title in 2017. Last year was Djokovic. Besides, Federer still holds the record here, winning eight as compare to Novak with 4.

Djokovic has some problems as well beginning early 2018 and Federer just chooses tournament he wanted to enter that is why he is still in better shape as of today. So I think Federer can a good chance to win and can pull the trigger as shown during his win against Nadal.
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July 14, 2019, 05:06:20 AM
Halep was lucky, I don't care what they say about Williams (and yes, I lost backing her).

Rare bets for me but hard to ignore Wimbledon when Fedex is up against old opponents. I was really happy to take my simple 2/1 bets against Nadal, but does anyone else think the bookies are being too generous with his odds against Djoko today? I know his time is already long past, and it was great if you still bet on him even up to this tourney, but surely he's still got 1 more in him?
 
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July 14, 2019, 04:49:07 AM
Tennis really full of surprises but Halep deserve  this win because she finds ways to hit the soft spot of Serena 's game, vulnerability of Serena getting mistakes when Halep let  Serena moving because Serena quickness is not as superb as she was before. Halep is lucky enough that Serena is not in her prime games.
That is just unfair calling Halep as lucky. Serena might not be in her prime but she is still playing and moving well that is why she got into the finals in the first place. Simona had a game plan and she executed it really well.

I think that Halep just played her the best match in life.
It's obvious that Serena is no longer as quick as it used to be and now she relies more on her physical strength than technique.
Halep just needed to keep the ball inside and let Serena make a mistake.

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July 14, 2019, 04:44:45 AM
~snip~

I don't think that Federer was favorite against Nadal.
Nadal was very close to bring match in the fifth set and in that case I think that Nadal would turn the match to his advantage.
Federer already said after match that he is tired and I'm not sure how much he can recover until Sunday.
Djokovic is obvious favorite on Sunday but we shouldn't underestimated Federer.

It's not very easy to pick a winner when it's a match between Federer vs Djokovic or Djokovic vs Nadal or Federer vs Nadal. The one who will in best shape in the match day he will win. I hope one day off will pay off for Federer. It's hard to ignore the age factor.

In fact, we know that Nadal is always a big favorite in Roland Garros and Djokovic in Wimbledon, if he is ready 100 %, without some personal issues.
Federer long time didn't win some Grand Slam and it's obvious that his time passed.
Of course, he still have chances to win today.

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July 14, 2019, 02:53:37 AM
~snip~

I don't think that Federer was favorite against Nadal.
Nadal was very close to bring match in the fifth set and in that case I think that Nadal would turn the match to his advantage.
Federer already said after match that he is tired and I'm not sure how much he can recover until Sunday.
Djokovic is obvious favorite on Sunday but we shouldn't underestimated Federer.

It's not very easy to pick a winner when it's a match between Federer vs Djokovic or Djokovic vs Nadal or Federer vs Nadal. The one who will in best shape in the match day he will win. I hope one day off will pay off for Federer. It's hard to ignore the age factor.
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July 14, 2019, 02:15:06 AM
Halep played a perfect match from first till last point and Serena simply couldn't get back in the match after slow start. She always looked uncomfortable on ground-strokes.

Can't wait for men's final later today. This should be one great match but advantage is for sure on Djokovic side, after all he won last 4 matches and last Wimbledon match.
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July 14, 2019, 12:18:35 AM
Tennis really full of surprises but Halep deserve  this win because she finds ways to hit the soft spot of Serena 's game, vulnerability of Serena getting mistakes when Halep let  Serena moving because Serena quickness is not as superb as she was before. Halep is lucky enough that Serena is not in her prime games.
That is just unfair calling Halep as lucky. Serena might not be in her prime but she is still playing and moving well that is why she got into the finals in the first place. Simona had a game plan and she executed it really well.
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July 13, 2019, 11:10:33 PM
Congrats to Simona Halep on her first every Wimbledon title, I had a feeling that this time she would finally get a win over Serena Williams as we know Halep has always been in the matches against Serena but just lost her way during vital stages of the matches. Not this time though as Halep brought her game and dominated Serena, in fact it was a crushing victory against Serena which we don't see all that often. Halep really does deserve this win and it looked like she couldn't believe it when she won the match. 
Tennis really full of surprises but Halep deserve  this win because she finds ways to hit the soft spot of Serena 's game, vulnerability of Serena getting mistakes when Halep let  Serena moving because Serena quickness is not as superb as she was before. Halep is lucky enough that Serena is not in her prime games.
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July 13, 2019, 05:57:31 PM
Got a bet on Serena, I think she will win tomorrow she is too strong  Grin.

Federer and Serena kings are back at Wimbledon.

WOW what a game, incredible match!
I don't remember when someone last time won Serena so convincingly.
Serena didn't have any chance.
6:2 and 6:2 can you believe it?

quite chocked myself lol thought it would go to 3 atleast if serena was gonna lose. tennis full of suprises
She didn't choked, Serena started very slow, in which she can't recover anymore in the second set. Congrats to Halep for a superb win. for Serena as well, she was very amazing throughout that tournament but she just fell short.
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July 13, 2019, 05:51:22 PM
Congrats to Simona Halep on her first every Wimbledon title, I had a feeling that this time she would finally get a win over Serena Williams as we know Halep has always been in the matches against Serena but just lost her way during vital stages of the matches. Not this time though as Halep brought her game and dominated Serena, in fact it was a crushing victory against Serena which we don't see all that often. Halep really does deserve this win and it looked like she couldn't believe it when she won the match. 
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July 13, 2019, 11:35:19 AM
Nadal doesen't look so good at the moment. He is loosing 2:1 in sets and break down in forth. Now he needs some exceptional tennis to turn this around but I don't think Federer will alow him an openning.

We should have a great final on sunday. Personally I am glad Federer will probably be in it. It is something special to see him play on grass.
I thought Nadal has the momentum, he made it 1:1 and it was a beautiful second set comeback. But Roger is the king of this court and eventually won, but it is an amazing display from two of the best players. I think Roger will win against Djoker in the finals.
It was a big match against Nadal, so I think Federer will be too much exhausted for the final of tomorrow. Federer is old now.

Of course Djokovic has some youthfulness compared to Federer. The two were the favorite to reach the finals. And Djokovic have a better record against Federer while competing in final. Both of these stars are fit and we could expect a competing and wonderful finals.

I don't think that Federer was favorite against Nadal.
Nadal was very close to bring match in the fifth set and in that case I think that Nadal would turn the match to his advantage.
Federer already said after match that he is tired and I'm not sure how much he can recover until Sunday.
Djokovic is obvious favorite on Sunday but we shouldn't underestimated Federer.


Nadal only comes close in stats with Federer considering the clay court of which Nadal undoubtedly is an expert. But when it comes to wimbeldon, Federer is no doubt the favorite over Nadal. As of Sunday, I'd call it to be a long match rather than a winner over 40.5
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July 13, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
Got a bet on Serena, I think she will win tomorrow she is too strong  Grin.

Federer and Serena kings are back at Wimbledon.

WOW what a game, incredible match!
I don't remember when someone last time won Serena so convincingly.
Serena didn't have any chance.
6:2 and 6:2 can you believe it?
Although Serena's age is quite older than   Halep, but the power of  Serena is still superb, but her quickness seems questionable, I don't think Halep can effectively return Serena service, specially in grass surface which is faster.
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July 13, 2019, 09:21:48 AM
Got a bet on Serena, I think she will win tomorrow she is too strong  Grin.

Federer and Serena kings are back at Wimbledon.

WOW what a game, incredible match!
I don't remember when someone last time won Serena so convincingly.
Serena didn't have any chance.
6:2 and 6:2 can you believe it?
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July 13, 2019, 09:20:57 AM
Nadal doesen't look so good at the moment. He is loosing 2:1 in sets and break down in forth. Now he needs some exceptional tennis to turn this around but I don't think Federer will alow him an openning.

We should have a great final on sunday. Personally I am glad Federer will probably be in it. It is something special to see him play on grass.
I thought Nadal has the momentum, he made it 1:1 and it was a beautiful second set comeback. But Roger is the king of this court and eventually won, but it is an amazing display from two of the best players. I think Roger will win against Djoker in the finals.
It was a big match against Nadal, so I think Federer will be too much exhausted for the final of tomorrow. Federer is old now.

Of course Djokovic has some youthfulness compared to Federer. The two were the favorite to reach the finals. And Djokovic have a better record against Federer while competing in final. Both of these stars are fit and we could expect a competing and wonderful finals.

I don't think that Federer was favorite against Nadal.
Nadal was very close to bring match in the fifth set and in that case I think that Nadal would turn the match to his advantage.
Federer already said after match that he is tired and I'm not sure how much he can recover until Sunday.
Djokovic is obvious favorite on Sunday but we shouldn't underestimated Federer.

Federer age is a big factor absolutely many would favor on Sunday's final but  I don't think that  Federer will just give up without a good fight, because Wimbledon is his pride which  he will depends what ever it takes.
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July 13, 2019, 08:12:28 AM
Nadal doesen't look so good at the moment. He is loosing 2:1 in sets and break down in forth. Now he needs some exceptional tennis to turn this around but I don't think Federer will alow him an openning.

We should have a great final on sunday. Personally I am glad Federer will probably be in it. It is something special to see him play on grass.
I thought Nadal has the momentum, he made it 1:1 and it was a beautiful second set comeback. But Roger is the king of this court and eventually won, but it is an amazing display from two of the best players. I think Roger will win against Djoker in the finals.
It was a big match against Nadal, so I think Federer will be too much exhausted for the final of tomorrow. Federer is old now.

Of course Djokovic has some youthfulness compared to Federer. The two were the favorite to reach the finals. And Djokovic have a better record against Federer while competing in final. Both of these stars are fit and we could expect a competing and wonderful finals.

I don't think that Federer was favorite against Nadal.
Nadal was very close to bring match in the fifth set and in that case I think that Nadal would turn the match to his advantage.
Federer already said after match that he is tired and I'm not sure how much he can recover until Sunday.
Djokovic is obvious favorite on Sunday but we shouldn't underestimated Federer.
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July 13, 2019, 03:42:26 AM
Nadal doesen't look so good at the moment. He is loosing 2:1 in sets and break down in forth. Now he needs some exceptional tennis to turn this around but I don't think Federer will alow him an openning.

We should have a great final on sunday. Personally I am glad Federer will probably be in it. It is something special to see him play on grass.
I thought Nadal has the momentum, he made it 1:1 and it was a beautiful second set comeback. But Roger is the king of this court and eventually won, but it is an amazing display from two of the best players. I think Roger will win against Djoker in the finals.
It was a big match against Nadal, so I think Federer will be too much exhausted for the final of tomorrow. Federer is old now.

Of course Djokovic has some youthfulness compared to Federer. The two were the favorite to reach the finals. And Djokovic have a better record against Federer while competing in final. Both of these stars are fit and we could expect a competing and wonderful finals.
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