Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 12.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 22, 2023, 02:43:36 PM

Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

Although Canelo is no longer with DAZN and Eddie Hearn Matchroom and now I've read that not every fight of Canelo has massive numbers in DAZN, maybe he is just telling this because he no longer promotes Canelo Alvarez.

But as far as this one, yeah the keyword here is "potential" it might do 1 million views or just half of it around 500,000k. And I guess it really depends on how they are going to promote this fight and the boxers themselves.

So far they gone to respective boxing outlet, but we haven't heard anything, maybe just minor trash talking.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

I bet they only had some speculations about what would be the PPV buys but I'm somehow confident that they aren't expecting any actual range as they also knew the factors surrounding it.

Yeah, they definitely have numbers in mind already, so they have better put that into perspective instead of anticipating big numbers that is not going to happen because even though they are pound for pound fighters, they didn't bring much as far as PPV numbers.

Quote from: mirakal on June 24, 2023, 09:43:23 AM

What they did was they rented a much bigger venue which was the T-Mobile Arena to ensure that they could take advantage of the fact while the fight was anticipated by many and bring a much bigger profits to their pockets.

Live gets could be different though, but this is business, and tickets are going to be very expensive. But their could be boxing fans who are willing to pay a great deal of money to see this as close as they can and doesn't want to watch it on TV.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

It's good if Crawford-Spence PPV reaches or breaks 1.2 buys because it actually deserves knowing this is for the undisputed title and between 2 undefeated fighters. Davis and Garcia were not world champions but they are popular. Garcia is unproven but he is a celebrity outside of boxing with millions of followers. Tank Davis is gifted with explosive hands and is carefully matched by Mayweather, PBC, and Showtime against nobodies, has-beens, and other exploitation techniques. PBC has a huge following of African-Americans and many of them are casuals that would enjoy a Tank KO win against a bum than Spence winning a hard decision or a hard fight against another top-caliber opponent like Ugas.

So without serious trash-talking and bad blood, this fight might not reach a million buys.

So far though I haven't heard any serious trash talked between the two.

For the Davis vs Garcia fight, the build up was slow, but days before the fight we have heard about the rehydration clause and then trash talking by Ryan Garcia himself. They also need to put up a good lineup in the undercard, so far the only name that I can see it Pitbull Cruz, not sure though if he can bring lots of fans to watch the fight itself. Which mean those who are going to buy are willing to spend money to watch other fight not just the main card.

I guess they were just too busy doing their own preparations and rigorous trainings because they know right from the start that this fight is not something that they can call an ordinary fight as both of them got some serious skills that is not good to underestimate with. Just a guess though but that might be the reason why both camp is so silent these days.

As for the Garcia-Davis fight, I think we already know the rehydration clause much earlier and not just few days before the day of their fight as that clause was included on their deal. Safe to say that if Ryan Garcia and his camp will not accept the rehydration clause, there will be no fight.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

It's good if Crawford-Spence PPV reaches or breaks 1.2 buys because it actually deserves knowing this is for the undisputed title and between 2 undefeated fighters. Davis and Garcia were not world champions but they are popular. Garcia is unproven but he is a celebrity outside of boxing with millions of followers. Tank Davis is gifted with explosive hands and is carefully matched by Mayweather, PBC, and Showtime against nobodies, has-beens, and other exploitation techniques. PBC has a huge following of African-Americans and many of them are casuals that would enjoy a Tank KO win against a bum than Spence winning a hard decision or a hard fight against another top-caliber opponent like Ugas.

So without serious trash-talking and bad blood, this fight might not reach a million buys.

So far though I haven't heard any serious trash talked between the two.

For the Davis vs Garcia fight, the build up was slow, but days before the fight we have heard about the rehydration clause and then trash talking by Ryan Garcia himself. They also need to put up a good lineup in the undercard, so far the only name that I can see it Pitbull Cruz, not sure though if he can bring lots of fans to watch the fight itself. Which mean those who are going to buy are willing to spend money to watch other fight not just the main card.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

I bet they only had some speculations about what would be the PPV buys but I'm somehow confident that they aren't expecting any actual range as they also knew the factors surrounding it.

What they did was they rented a much bigger venue which was the T-Mobile Arena to ensure that they could take advantage of the fact while the fight was anticipated by many and bring a much bigger profits to their pockets.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

It's good if Crawford-Spence PPV reaches or breaks 1.2 buys because it actually deserves knowing this is for the undisputed title and between 2 undefeated fighters. Davis and Garcia were not world champions but they are popular. Garcia is unproven but he is a celebrity outside of boxing with millions of followers. Tank Davis is gifted with explosive hands and is carefully matched by Mayweather, PBC, and Showtime against nobodies, has-beens, and other exploitation techniques. PBC has a huge following of African-Americans and many of them are casuals that would enjoy a Tank KO win against a bum than Spence winning a hard decision or a hard fight against another top-caliber opponent like Ugas.

So without serious trash-talking and bad blood, this fight might not reach a million buys.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 23, 2023, 03:21:40 PM

But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

We should take note that Errol Spence Jr., regardless of the status of his opponent, is considered a "PPV King". That's even the main reason they always front about why he should get always the biggest slice of the pie, aside from he holds several titles, as no doubt he's the main reason why most of his fights ended up in decent PPV sales.

And since this match between Spence and Crawford is a long-anticipated match, that takes several years in the making, aside also from the fact that Crawford is a big thing, I'm sure they can sell over a million PPVs and might be one of the notable sales in the boxing PPV history.

Anyways, is the undercards for this match already released? Never saw any details about it when I tried to search for it.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 23, 2023, 03:21:40 PM

I personally believe that Terrance crowford vs Erroll Spence would be an even bigger match than Tank Davis and Garcia. Terrance crowford vs Erroll Spence Jr has been a match that the boxing world and neutral has been anticipating for a very long time, many has even thought it would be a match we may never see.

This two boxers has proven themselves on various platform through out their careers so far, I am sure it would be amongst the highest grossing boxing match in history.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

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I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

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“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

There is no need for these two fighters to have a large number of social media followers or to generate buzz on social media. The true fans of these fighters already know them, and they will undoubtedly want to witness this fight, whether through pay-per-view or by attending the event. In my opinion, this fight holds greater significance than the Garcia vs. Davis fight, as both of these fighters have consistently held high rankings in the pound-for-pound list. Therefore, it is almost certain that this fight will generate a substantial number of pay-per-view views.

But still though, social media is every where and it could be a good gauge for this boxers. I mean you can measure how popular you are by the numbers of your followers. It might not translate to viewerships, but still for me it's a measuring stick, just like how Ryan's social media is.

The thing though with both Spence and Crawford is that they are not that young, meaning they are not into this social media thingy and just going back to the old roots of fighting and creating their own hype. And their brand name are the one who are going to carry them. However, we think think that this fight is not going to generate 1 million PPV.

Somehow, you got a point about that. But considering that Spence and Crawford is not that new in the boxing industry, we can also say as well that both of their fans, well mostly, are not that much into social media and only follows about their news in some articles released by some famous sports outlet or some channels in YouTube that provide some inside information regarding about their future plans.

After all, they don't need to make any marketing because people have been waiting for this fight to happen and you can just imagine how glad they are when they have read a news saying that finally this fight is happening. After a few dancing back and forth, finally, both of them have come up a deal.

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I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

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“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

There is no need for these two fighters to have a large number of social media followers or to generate buzz on social media. The true fans of these fighters already know them, and they will undoubtedly want to witness this fight, whether through pay-per-view or by attending the event. In my opinion, this fight holds greater significance than the Garcia vs. Davis fight, as both of these fighters have consistently held high rankings in the pound-for-pound list. Therefore, it is almost certain that this fight will generate a substantial number of pay-per-view views.

But still though, social media is every where and it could be a good gauge for this boxers. I mean you can measure how popular you are by the numbers of your followers. It might not translate to viewerships, but still for me it's a measuring stick, just like how Ryan's social media is.

The thing though with both Spence and Crawford is that they are not that young, meaning they are not into this social media thingy and just going back to the old roots of fighting and creating their own hype. And their brand name are the one who are going to carry them. However, we think think that this fight is not going to generate 1 million PPV.

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Getmon, you should update the OP and also the subject. The date has already been decided by both camps. It's going to be on July 29. And it's going to happen at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. When I read the title I thought I missed this very important fight. I really don't want to miss this.

In this battle of southpaws, I think Crawford will prevail. I'm still waiting for the odds on my favorite betting platform to be released. Although the match is already there, there are no odds shown yet. But I totally understand that Crawford is the favorite.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 20, 2023, 09:09:36 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on June 20, 2023, 07:16:27 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on June 20, 2023, 07:00:10 AM

I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

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“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

There is no need for these two fighters to have a large number of social media followers or to generate buzz on social media. The true fans of these fighters already know them, and they will undoubtedly want to witness this fight, whether through pay-per-view or by attending the event. In my opinion, this fight holds greater significance than the Garcia vs. Davis fight, as both of these fighters have consistently held high rankings in the pound-for-pound list. Therefore, it is almost certain that this fight will generate a substantial number of pay-per-view views.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 20, 2023, 07:00:10 AM

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on June 19, 2023, 03:37:06 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on June 18, 2023, 11:06:48 PM

I actually think it is enough that this fight is between Crawford and Spence. That banner itself must be more than enough for the boxing fans to watch it live. You can't miss this. We have all been waiting and demanding for this for a long time.

They still need to market the fight if they wanted to get more audience. For this boxers and promoters, fame is not enough, they still need to sell lots of ticket and PPVs in order to consider the fight as a success. So they need more pre-fight actions to make more noise.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on June 18, 2023, 11:06:48 PM

Although those kinds of gimmicks like the heightened intensity and the controversial speeches that you mentioned, all those pushes and personal attacks, they're a cheap way to sell a fight, but they may be effective to a certain extent. But the ultimate reason for any boxing fan to watch live is the fighter and his skills. Both Crawford and Spence have it.

Indeed the yare cheap way to sell the fight but for most boxer, they are very effective in attracting non-fans attention. Remember each fans have their own favorite boxer so even if the boxer is so skilled, he will not get all the attention of boxing fans. So to market the fight, they need to do extra effort in order for those non-fans to be curious.

I have a feeling that this supposed mega fight will only sell around 500k PPV buys. The date might be too early as even both fighters are cutting their camps in order to travel for the promotional tour.

I think Crawford is controlling himself not to trash-talk too much on Spence because he might scare the Texan into making another bunch of excuses to cancel the fight. Spence is a silent guy although he has the backing of the huge Texas population. Crawford however came from an average state with lesser cities.

I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

They are giving each other so much respect in the fight, hehehe. But I do think that the trash talk will come later, as we gets closer to the fight date.

Yeah, that could be the max buys they can get in my opinion. I don't think they can break into the 1 million PPV buys. Unless there are casuals that are willing to buy. Live gates though might be different as it could be sold out already (I haven't check the numbers yet).

I'm not seeing injuries before the night. This is just high stakes so they need to take good care of themselves before the actual fight. They might push themselves in training though, but they know what the limits are to not just sloppy and injured themselves.

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Quote from: Sanitough on June 20, 2023, 07:16:27 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on June 20, 2023, 07:00:10 AM

I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

Quote

“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 20, 2023, 07:00:10 AM

I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

Quote

“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on June 19, 2023, 03:37:06 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on June 18, 2023, 11:06:48 PM

I actually think it is enough that this fight is between Crawford and Spence. That banner itself must be more than enough for the boxing fans to watch it live. You can't miss this. We have all been waiting and demanding for this for a long time.

They still need to market the fight if they wanted to get more audience. For this boxers and promoters, fame is not enough, they still need to sell lots of ticket and PPVs in order to consider the fight as a success. So they need more pre-fight actions to make more noise.

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on June 18, 2023, 11:06:48 PM

Although those kinds of gimmicks like the heightened intensity and the controversial speeches that you mentioned, all those pushes and personal attacks, they're a cheap way to sell a fight, but they may be effective to a certain extent. But the ultimate reason for any boxing fan to watch live is the fighter and his skills. Both Crawford and Spence have it.

Indeed the yare cheap way to sell the fight but for most boxer, they are very effective in attracting non-fans attention. Remember each fans have their own favorite boxer so even if the boxer is so skilled, he will not get all the attention of boxing fans. So to market the fight, they need to do extra effort in order for those non-fans to be curious.

I have a feeling that this supposed mega fight will only sell around 500k PPV buys. The date might be too early as even both fighters are cutting their camps in order to travel for the promotional tour.

I think Crawford is controlling himself not to trash-talk too much on Spence because he might scare the Texan into making another bunch of excuses to cancel the fight. Spence is a silent guy although he has the backing of the huge Texas population. Crawford however came from an average state with lesser cities.

I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

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