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For sure everyone of us here is excited and hopefully if there are members here that is stateside, maybe they are going to watch it. Nevertheless, its' going to be weekends so we can sit down with our friends and families and enjoy this great and exciting fight.
With the changes that have happened, I believe there's a big possibility that the PPV amount will surpass the PPV revenue of Davis vs. Garcia, which was very successful. Donaire can attract a crowd because he was once a good pound-for-pound boxer, and I'm sure everyone wants to see how an older Donaire will win a championship.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

That is the best thing they can do and it is more likely that the fans who have bought the ticket have an option to choose between A or B because it will be unreasonable if they will decide without asking which is more comfortable to the fans as they were the ones who dragged the fight in the first place without giving any prior notice and to give them time to adjust with the new posted schedule if they can make it work. Also, best assume that most fans who bought the ticket cannot watch the fight live anymore specially to the people who have a hectic schedule or work.

That would be the expected scenario. The sad thing about fight postponements or changing of matches is that many of these fans are from far away states counties or states or even from other countries and they already booked their flights and hotels. So this is common to traveling fight fans but there is nothing they can do but probably continue their weekend short vacations and just enjoy the other stuff if they do not like the new fights, especially the new main events. I always hear these complaints and reactions from these fans but well, things sometimes happen unexpectedly.

If all of us have the luxury of both time and money, we're all going to be in the Crawford-Spence duel drinking beers. Grin

Don't rub it in mate, LOL. We could only wish that we can see Donaire vs Santiago and then Crawford vs Spence in the same night.  Grin. Nevertheless, I think there is PPV or even we can get to watch the fight for free so that is good enough for us.

For sure everyone of us here is excited and hopefully if there are members here that is stateside, maybe they are going to watch it. Nevertheless, its' going to be weekends so we can sit down with our friends and families and enjoy this great and exciting fight.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

That is the best thing they can do and it is more likely that the fans who have bought the ticket have an option to choose between A or B because it will be unreasonable if they will decide without asking which is more comfortable to the fans as they were the ones who dragged the fight in the first place without giving any prior notice and to give them time to adjust with the new posted schedule if they can make it work. Also, best assume that most fans who bought the ticket cannot watch the fight live anymore specially to the people who have a hectic schedule or work.

That would be the expected scenario. The sad thing about fight postponements or changing of matches is that many of these fans are from far away states counties or states or even from other countries and they already booked their flights and hotels. So this is common to traveling fight fans but there is nothing they can do but probably continue their weekend short vacations and just enjoy the other stuff if they do not like the new fights, especially the new main events. I always hear these complaints and reactions from these fans but well, things sometimes happen unexpectedly.

If all of us have the luxury of both time and money, we're all going to be in the Crawford-Spence duel drinking beers. Grin
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

That poses a significant inconvenience for the fans who have already purchased tickets for the Donaire vs Santiago fight. I hope their situation will be taken into consideration. After all, it's not their fault that the fight has been postponed. Valuing the fans should be the top priority, especially when unexpected changes occur. It's crucial to ensure that no issues arise that would upset the fans.

Yeah, that's why they might be given those two scenario's that I laid down because it's not their fault. Or maybe it will also include some perks like hotel accommodation or something because it's going to be a hassle.

As for the fight itself, I saw some post and feed on my social media accounts that Spence and Crawford are doing some light media work outs. It's probably to hype the fight even more as the date is just about a week .
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Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.

I also think the addition of Donaire-Santiago undercard will give some boost to this event.  It is a treat for us to see the fight of Crawford and Spence together with Donaire and Santiago in one ticket.  I believe Donaire has still lots of fans out there aside from the curious boxing fans who wanted to see whether Donaire still has that sting.

^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

I am also wondering what will happen to the tickets from Donaire and Santiago.  I somehow think that they will just let it be and let the ticket holder use it as an entrance to the fight since it wasn't the buyers' fault that rescheduling was made.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

That is the best thing they can do and it is more likely that the fans who have bought the ticket have an option to choose between A or B because it will be unreasonable if they will decide without asking which is more comfortable to the fans as they were the ones who dragged the fight in the first place without giving any prior notice and to give them time to adjust with the new posted schedule if they can make it work. Also, best assume that most fans who bought the ticket cannot watch the fight live anymore specially to the people who have a hectic schedule or work.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

That poses a significant inconvenience for the fans who have already purchased tickets for the Donaire vs Santiago fight. I hope their situation will be taken into consideration. After all, it's not their fault that the fight has been postponed. Valuing the fans should be the top priority, especially when unexpected changes occur. It's crucial to ensure that no issues arise that would upset the fans.

Indeed, it's not the fans' fault, and they should get that consideration.

Though the chance of getting the chance of watching the fight, it's slim as mentioned, the ticket might be sold out now as there are
many fans who would like to witness the unification fights against Crawford and Spence expect that a refund may be the option for
those fans who already bought the early tickets, chance that they will only watch the fight thru PPV.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

That poses a significant inconvenience for the fans who have already purchased tickets for the Donaire vs Santiago fight. I hope their situation will be taken into consideration. After all, it's not their fault that the fight has been postponed. Valuing the fans should be the top priority, especially when unexpected changes occur. It's crucial to ensure that no issues arise that would upset the fans.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.
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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.

I can only see a rematch on the horizon if Crawford will come out as the winner of this fight because he tends to be more open for more negotiations in the future, but if it's Errol Spence who will have the undisputed title, I really doubt that they will agree with a rematch even though there is a clause written on their contract. I don't know what they will do about it, but I surely know that they can find some way if they are not that inclined to make it happen.

Another thing that they should consider as well in the money that is going to generated in the first fight. However, if we go on what we here in the public, there is definitely a rematch regardless of the winner.

I guess just a safety net for the loser, so that he has the chance to avenge his lost and make it even. And then most likely a trilogy to end all doubts as who is the best 147 lbs in this era.

Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.

If it weren't because of the sudden withdrawal of fights under Spence-Crawford fight undercards, we won't see Donaire and Santiago in a much bigger stage.

By the way, I wonder what did the organizers do to the fans who have already bought a ticket for the latter's fight that was supposed to happen few days back because I know that some of them actually reserved that day just to watch the fight and now that it was moved suddenly, did they get a proper consolation for it? Hopefully the answer is yes.
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Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.
You are right and indeed money is not everything in their first fight because there will definitely be special interest that makes many people flock to be able to buy tickets and watch the fight.
The advantage is certain to be obtained, especially since this has become one of the battles that have been waiting for.
If at the first meeting this can be a great fight and there is little controversy then you can be sure that when the rematch is held later there will be more and more people who are more excited to witness it.
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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.

I can only see a rematch on the horizon if Crawford will come out as the winner of this fight because he tends to be more open for more negotiations in the future, but if it's Errol Spence who will have the undisputed title, I really doubt that they will agree with a rematch even though there is a clause written on their contract. I don't know what they will do about it, but I surely know that they can find some way if they are not that inclined to make it happen.

Another thing that they should consider as well in the money that is going to generated in the first fight. However, if we go on what we here in the public, there is definitely a rematch regardless of the winner.

I guess just a safety net for the loser, so that he has the chance to avenge his lost and make it even. And then most likely a trilogy to end all doubts as who is the best 147 lbs in this era.

Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.

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To hype the fight more, here is ALL ACCESS: Spence vs. Crawford | Ep 1 | Full Episode | SHOWTIME PPV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JkMZtv8yA

You can hear both of them talking about the fight, there trainings and the attitude. I advise everyone to follow the All Access so that we can see a glimpse of this two boxers are they are going for a super fight.

I am really curious about the outcome of the numbers in this fight. I felt like there is not enough buzz. While Crawford made some trash-talking, he seems controlling it, probably trying not to get under Spence's skin or the Texan gets scared and withdraw? Cheesy Geez, Bud is turning 36.

So far no trash talking, I know, we missed those kind of smack talking, hehehe. But perhaps they know what they are doing here. Stop the trash talk and let them promote and go to the media showing respect and see how boxing fans are going to react with this fight. It could work for them in the end.

Anyways, with Jermell Charlo vacating all the belts at 154 for his fight with Canelo, Bud's dream of getting a shot at the undisputed belts at 154 is becoming nearly impossible. A trilogy with Spence is even possible if they can tie it at 1-1. Although I would love for any of these sanctioning bodies to offer a vacant belt at 154 for the rematch which would make Bud a legit 4-division world champion or Spence a 2-division world champion.

We wii wait to wait and see, how the first fight will go. It will really depends on how they are going to fare on the first fight. It could be a war and do hope that it will be the case so that the fans are going to look for the rematch or maybe the score will go 1-1 and it's going to be worth for this sanctioning body to allow this fight to proceed and let other fighters fight for the interim belt or whatever they are going to call it.
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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.

I can only see a rematch on the horizon if Crawford will come out as the winner of this fight because he tends to be more open for more negotiations in the future, but if it's Errol Spence who will have the undisputed title, I really doubt that they will agree with a rematch even though there is a clause written on their contract. I don't know what they will do about it, but I surely know that they can find some way if they are not that inclined to make it happen.

Another thing that they should consider as well in the money that is going to generated in the first fight. However, if we go on what we here in the public, there is definitely a rematch regardless of the winner.

I guess just a safety net for the loser, so that he has the chance to avenge his lost and make it even. And then most likely a trilogy to end all doubts as who is the best 147 lbs in this era.
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To hype the fight more, here is ALL ACCESS: Spence vs. Crawford | Ep 1 | Full Episode | SHOWTIME PPV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JkMZtv8yA

You can hear both of them talking about the fight, there trainings and the attitude. I advise everyone to follow the All Access so that we can see a glimpse of this two boxers are they are going for a super fight.

I am really curious about the outcome of the numbers in this fight. I felt like there is not enough buzz. While Crawford made some trash-talking, he seems controlling it, probably trying not to get under Spence's skin or the Texan gets scared and withdraw? Cheesy Geez, Bud is turning 36.

Anyways, with Jermell Charlo vacating all the belts at 154 for his fight with Canelo, Bud's dream of getting a shot at the undisputed belts at 154 is becoming nearly impossible. A trilogy with Spence is even possible if they can tie it at 1-1. Although I would love for any of these sanctioning bodies to offer a vacant belt at 154 for the rematch which would make Bud a legit 4-division world champion or Spence a 2-division world champion.
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Right, Tank vs Garcia is very different though, I mean the hype is really huge and PPV reaches more than 1 million. And I remember that we have discussed speculations about how big this fight it in terms of PPV and if I remember it correctly, we did somewhat agree that the numbers could be around 300,000-500,000 buys. But we will see.

It's getting closer, I can sense on some boxing forums that the hype is building already.

I also read some comments of former opponents of this two boxers, like Porter and they have given their own opinions about this fight.

The promoters of this fight made the PPV more expensive so it will have a hard time matching Ryan vs. Tank's numbers. Today's generation of fighters need to have a strong social media presence if they want to attract the biggest audience. Earlier this month, an influencer boxing event broke records on Twitch by getting over 3.4 million live viewers and over 100 million have watched the replay. Crawford and Spence aren't at that level of popularity but I think the years of anticipation and hype will lead to a big viewership.

I think the PPV is not that expensive as compare to the price of Ryan vs Tank numbers. I doubt that they will increased it to the point that they know they are going to suffer because less people are going to buy it.

And we shouldn't compare it to Twitch or influencer, I mean that's why they are influencer on the first place.

This are real boxers who put their live on the line every time they fight that's why they command large money in the beginning. Maybe there is really hype about this fight and it could exceed the numbers of Ryan vs Tank numbers.
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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.

I can only see a rematch on the horizon if Crawford will come out as the winner of this fight because he tends to be more open for more negotiations in the future, but if it's Errol Spence who will have the undisputed title, I really doubt that they will agree with a rematch even though there is a clause written on their contract. I don't know what they will do about it, but I surely know that they can find some way if they are not that inclined to make it happen.
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...as Spence said in the All access provided by the link above, he felt he is the one instrumental for bringing this fight.

No doubt that Spence will be the bigger guy here, but Crawford is used in fighting bigger opponents.

He truly believes that he is more popular and capable of making a fight more successful. Perhaps he is correct, but what matters now is that he has agreed to fight Crawford, which has the potential to overshadow his popularity. Spence may no longer be a significant PPV draw, as Crawford could become the new sensation among the crowd. Although some argue that Crawford's fights haven't generated substantial PPV views, if he manages to defeat Spence, that perception is likely to change.

Yes, but I guess we can still remember how the first negotiation fell off and it might be due to Spence not wanting to give up to the demands of Crawford. But knowing that magnitude of this fight, sooner or later he will have to prioritize this fight more than any other fights that is line up on the horizon.

This will generate substantial PPV numbers that's for sure and then maybe the second fight, the rematch could even be bigger specially if the 1st one is very close and hard to judge.

What he did in the past did certainly took a toll in his fame because people waited for that fight and right after they knew that the negotiations have started, people were delighted as if they knew that it will materialize in the next couple of weeks but that is not what happened because Crawford talk afterwards what happened and people confirmed their speculations that they were (Al and Spence) just toying with Crawford and giving him false hopes so that he will his inactivity will continue.
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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.
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