Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 11.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on July 08, 2023, 09:43:42 AM

I thought this fight wouldn't happen because there's no hype about this match in my social medias, even though this is an unification fight. The hype of Tank vs Garcia is way more higher than Crawford vs Spence.

This will happen. There isn't much hype on social media because both fighters are focused on their training, and they aren't trash-talking each other like Garcia does. This kind of fight is what we've been waiting for—a unification bout where it's hard to predict the winner since their skills are almost 50-50.

Don't worry, once the fight begins, all eyes will be focused on it. With both boxers being KO artists, one punch could end the fight.

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I thought this fight wouldn't happen because there's no hype about this match in my social medias, even though this is an unification fight. The hype of Tank vs Garcia is way more higher than Crawford vs Spence.

Quote from: Viscore on July 08, 2023, 09:11:38 AM

Maybe Porter is saying otherwise. I mean, he fought both boxers and was able to give Spence a good fight, resulting in a split decision win for Spence. However, when Porter fought Crawford, he lost via TKO. So based on his experience, he should have said that Crawford has the edge because he suffered his first TKO loss against him.

Yeah, he give an objective answer, that's not make sense if he said Spence is better than Crawford when we're know based on his result, Crawford is better than Spence.

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The fight is going to be on July 29!!! Only 22 days more before we witness who becomes the king of the welterweight division hehehe! We also have another superfight with Fulton vs. Inoue. This month is good to be a fan of boxing.

Also in an interview, Shawn Porter said that Spence has a huge advantage over Crawford in punch output. However, my question for boxing experts of the forum. Will this he enough to win the fight?

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence will have a huge advantage over Terence Crawford with his physical presence and his high punch output on July 29th.

While Porter does rate WBO welterweight champion Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs), he’s incapable of matching IBW, WBA & WBC champ Spence (28-0, 22 KOs) with his volume punching.

Crawford has been a pot-shot fighter his entire fifteen-year professional career, and he’s not going to change now at 36 years old.

Source https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/07/shawn-porter-says-errol-spence-has-huge-advantage-over-terence-crawford/

Much of the predictions were for Crawford before this month. However, presently there are new storylines that are being argued for Spence. The skeptical me is beginning to think that this might be manipulated to end on a draw and give the promoters another chance to collect more money from a part 2.

I'd say that these boxers who are giving their own predictions and speculations are just the same as us, the fact that they are not the ones who are participating the fight is already a reason to say that they are just like us, giving predictions on how the fight would go.

I don't really believe that they are more reliable compared to us who are also watching their fights. The question is, does Spence also believe the same way like what Shawn Porter believes? Because I don't think that Spence is that confident to say that a huge advantage over Crawford as he knows that the latter is also a different boxer in his own way, that's why he was able to retain the belt for more than five consecutive years now.

Maybe Porter is saying otherwise. I mean, he fought both boxers and was able to give Spence a good fight, resulting in a split decision win for Spence. However, when Porter fought Crawford, he lost via TKO. So based on his experience, he should have said that Crawford has the edge because he suffered his first TKO loss against him.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 06, 2023, 10:58:16 PM

The fight is going to be on July 29!!! Only 22 days more before we witness who becomes the king of the welterweight division hehehe! We also have another superfight with Fulton vs. Inoue. This month is good to be a fan of boxing.

Also in an interview, Shawn Porter said that Spence has a huge advantage over Crawford in punch output. However, my question for boxing experts of the forum. Will this he enough to win the fight?

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence will have a huge advantage over Terence Crawford with his physical presence and his high punch output on July 29th.

While Porter does rate WBO welterweight champion Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs), he’s incapable of matching IBW, WBA & WBC champ Spence (28-0, 22 KOs) with his volume punching.

Crawford has been a pot-shot fighter his entire fifteen-year professional career, and he’s not going to change now at 36 years old.

Source https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/07/shawn-porter-says-errol-spence-has-huge-advantage-over-terence-crawford/

Much of the predictions were for Crawford before this month. However, presently there are new storylines that are being argued for Spence. The skeptical me is beginning to think that this might be manipulated to end on a draw and give the promoters another chance to collect more money from a part 2.

I'd say that these boxers who are giving their own predictions and speculations are just the same as us, the fact that they are not the ones who are participating the fight is already a reason to say that they are just like us, giving predictions on how the fight would go.

I don't really believe that they are more reliable compared to us who are also watching their fights. The question is, does Spence also believe the same way like what Shawn Porter believes? Because I don't think that Spence is that confident to say that a huge advantage over Crawford as he knows that the latter is also a different boxer in his own way, that's why he was able to retain the belt for more than five consecutive years now.

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2 years ago after fighting both, Porter mentioned that Crawford is the better fighter and is the best of the division without a doubt. But he is right, at this stage of their careers, Crawford's reflexes, strength, and mobility are not the same as some years ago which would be beneficial for Spence's close-quarters volume punches.

May I know what is your basis for saying that Crawford is not the same anymore? In my opinion, he is not the same because I believe he has improved as a boxer. He is still at his prime now, and I haven't seen a fight where he struggles. I know both fighters are different, but the quickness of Crawford is going to be his advantage here. In terms of power, both are KO artists, so there's no one who has an advantage in that area.

I haven't missed a Crawford fight since his clinical win over Breidis Prescott. How many Crawford fights have you seen in the past? I assume you watched the full fight and not the highlights? I saw Bud being less mobile, depreciated hand speed, and not throwing more combinations. The best of Bud would've finished Avanesyan earlier like 4 or 5 rounds. The guy's too slow and held his hands too high so I was expecting Bud to take advantage by constantly targeting the body and switching sides throwing combinations like he did when he fought Felix Diaz. Bud has a conservative style but he is really quick when he sees an opportunity. Bud also got hit a lot by a very slow guy and he is in danger if that was Spence's power punches that landed.

I'm a hardcore boxing fan and it's weird if you call that version of Bud an improvement over his previous fights. As an old saying in boxing, can't teach old dogs new tricks. And as Porter said, Bud won't change at 36. Anybody staying undefeated in their mid-30s onwards doesn't mean they are still in their primes like Bud and Beterbiev. Anyways, Bud has all the skills to beat anybody including Spence but it all depends now if he can still execute them properly.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 07, 2023, 09:42:23 AM

2 years ago after fighting both, Porter mentioned that Crawford is the better fighter and is the best of the division without a doubt. But he is right, at this stage of their careers, Crawford's reflexes, strength, and mobility are not the same as some years ago which would be beneficial for Spence's close-quarters volume punches.

May I know what is your basis for saying that Crawford is not the same anymore? In my opinion, he is not the same because I believe he has improved as a boxer. He is still at his prime now, and I haven't seen a fight where he struggles. I know both fighters are different, but the quickness of Crawford is going to be his advantage here. In terms of power, both are KO artists, so there's no one who has an advantage in that area.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 06, 2023, 10:58:16 PM

The fight is going to be on July 29!!! Only 22 days more before we witness who becomes the king of the welterweight division hehehe! We also have another superfight with Fulton vs. Inoue. This month is good to be a fan of boxing.

Also in an interview, Shawn Porter said that Spence has a huge advantage over Crawford in punch output. However, my question for boxing experts of the forum. Will this he enough to win the fight?

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence will have a huge advantage over Terence Crawford with his physical presence and his high punch output on July 29th.

While Porter does rate WBO welterweight champion Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs), he’s incapable of matching IBW, WBA & WBC champ Spence (28-0, 22 KOs) with his volume punching.

Crawford has been a pot-shot fighter his entire fifteen-year professional career, and he’s not going to change now at 36 years old.

Source https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/07/shawn-porter-says-errol-spence-has-huge-advantage-over-terence-crawford/

Much of the predictions were for Crawford before this month. However, presently there are new storylines that are being argued for Spence. The skeptical me is beginning to think that this might be manipulated to end on a draw and give the promoters another chance to collect more money from a part 2.

2 years ago after fighting both, Porter mentioned that Crawford is the better fighter and is the best of the division without a doubt. But he is right, at this stage of their careers, Crawford's reflexes, strength, and mobility are not the same as some years ago which would be beneficial for Spence's close-quarters volume punches.

The odds though are still favoring Crawford believing this current version is still enough to beat the bigger and stronger Spence. Although it is not the same as what I've seen some years ago, the current odds are a little close.

A draw is possible but it's still very difficult to bet on that. This event is promoted, televised, and presented by Spence's handlers so the scorecards will favor him, especially during close rounds.

I believe there is a rematch clause for both of them so a rematch is imminent unless the fight is one-sided.

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The fight is going to be on July 29!!! Only 22 days more before we witness who becomes the king of the welterweight division hehehe! We also have another superfight with Fulton vs. Inoue. This month is good to be a fan of boxing.

Also in an interview, Shawn Porter said that Spence has a huge advantage over Crawford in punch output. However, my question for boxing experts of the forum. Will this he enough to win the fight?

Shawn Porter says Errol Spence will have a huge advantage over Terence Crawford with his physical presence and his high punch output on July 29th.

While Porter does rate WBO welterweight champion Crawford (39-0, 30 KOs), he’s incapable of matching IBW, WBA & WBC champ Spence (28-0, 22 KOs) with his volume punching.

Crawford has been a pot-shot fighter his entire fifteen-year professional career, and he’s not going to change now at 36 years old.

Source https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/07/shawn-porter-says-errol-spence-has-huge-advantage-over-terence-crawford/

Much of the predictions were for Crawford before this month. However, presently there are new storylines that are being argued for Spence. The skeptical me is beginning to think that this might be manipulated to end on a draw and give the promoters another chance to collect more money from a part 2.

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^^ That is still a weak line up for the undercard in this event, just to be honest. PBC should put up a fight that is also worth specially in the 147 lbs as they have a lot of great boxers in their stable. And then can billed it as the next one to challenge next either Crawford or Spence.

Pitbull's name just pop up when he was able to stay in full 12 rounds with Tank Davis, who has suffered a injury in his hand that's why he wasn't able to knockout him out. After that, no body remember him.

They can add some names if they want to, but it is safe to assume that there are some reasons why the undercards are like that when in-fact they can do something more.
It's either the boxers in the stable are not yet ready or haven't found any interesting opponent, or they just did it for a reason as they want to allocate as many as possible for the Spence-Crawford undisputed fight as that is undeniably the first reason why people are going to watch the event live.

Yes, that could be in some certain cases, and there could be good boxers in the undercard too.

Remember that everyone is a prospect, and before they become like a household name and headlining their own cards, most of the great boxers are in the undercard just like recently Manny Pacquiao.

And no one could thought that he will become a superstar. So going to be interesting who will be the prospect superstar in the undercard card and probably we can go back and see him fight under Spence vs Crawford.

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I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

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“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

There is no need for these two fighters to have a large number of social media followers or to generate buzz on social media. The true fans of these fighters already know them, and they will undoubtedly want to witness this fight, whether through pay-per-view or by attending the event. In my opinion, this fight holds greater significance than the Garcia vs. Davis fight, as both of these fighters have consistently held high rankings in the pound-for-pound list. Therefore, it is almost certain that this fight will generate a substantial number of pay-per-view views.

But still though, social media is every where and it could be a good gauge for this boxers. I mean you can measure how popular you are by the numbers of your followers. It might not translate to viewerships, but still for me it's a measuring stick, just like how Ryan's social media is.

The thing though with both Spence and Crawford is that they are not that young, meaning they are not into this social media thingy and just going back to the old roots of fighting and creating their own hype. And their brand name are the one who are going to carry them. However, we think think that this fight is not going to generate 1 million PPV.

You're right about that, but on social media you can see that a lot of things, like the popularity of some boxers, can be compromised by a lot of things they see, hear and say about them, of course by speculating about Crawford and Spence, too. Like any of the boxers worldwide, everyone who says something is always based on what they see and has been able to dispel from them, it is known that a boxer wins according to his training, he does not win by luck or something similar, he wins there, if a boxer does not want a particular matchup, it must be or is very likely because he has not had the necessary training.

I don't know what many people think , perhaps a boxer is very good at what he has always done because he is very Famous , in this case it Helps a lot, but of course things can also change with training and that is something that very few Bettors they take into considerations that are very technical , for me in this case Crawford has Better Preparation.

In the case of Spence vs Crawford, they are not that old when it comes to social media because indeed they are somehow active on it especially Instagram and Twitter.

Plus we can say that these two boxers are still famous and can create a hype even without marketing it just like how silent they are now because they know that their fans can do that for them for free and they are one of the reasons why both boxers and organizers came to a point to make it happen as they see a huge cashflow by having this fight.

Spence himself is enough to attract a lot of fans and people to watch his fight what more now that Crawford is added in it.

It's somehow safe to assume that this will be a big fight even without marketing it and we can see how confident the promoters and organizers are of this event because they already booked a date in T-Mobile Arena without having any doubts, it's the very same arena where Ryan Garcia and Gervonta Davis fought each other and we know that it's kind of a big place and reasonable as well for this kind of event that has been asked for the people for a couple of years now.

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I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

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“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

There is no need for these two fighters to have a large number of social media followers or to generate buzz on social media. The true fans of these fighters already know them, and they will undoubtedly want to witness this fight, whether through pay-per-view or by attending the event. In my opinion, this fight holds greater significance than the Garcia vs. Davis fight, as both of these fighters have consistently held high rankings in the pound-for-pound list. Therefore, it is almost certain that this fight will generate a substantial number of pay-per-view views.

But still though, social media is every where and it could be a good gauge for this boxers. I mean you can measure how popular you are by the numbers of your followers. It might not translate to viewerships, but still for me it's a measuring stick, just like how Ryan's social media is.

The thing though with both Spence and Crawford is that they are not that young, meaning they are not into this social media thingy and just going back to the old roots of fighting and creating their own hype. And their brand name are the one who are going to carry them. However, we think think that this fight is not going to generate 1 million PPV.

You're right about that, but on social media you can see that a lot of things, like the popularity of some boxers, can be compromised by a lot of things they see, hear and say about them, of course by speculating about Crawford and Spence, too. Like any of the boxers worldwide, everyone who says something is always based on what they see and has been able to dispel from them, it is known that a boxer wins according to his training, he does not win by luck or something similar, he wins there, if a boxer does not want a particular matchup, it must be or is very likely because he has not had the necessary training.

I don't know what many people think , perhaps a boxer is very good at what he has always done because he is very Famous , in this case it Helps a lot, but of course things can also change with training and that is something that very few Bettors they take into considerations that are very technical , for me in this case Crawford has Better Preparation.

In the case of Spence vs Crawford, they are not that old when it comes to social media because indeed they are somehow active on it especially Instagram and Twitter.

Plus we can say that these two boxers are still famous and can create a hype even without marketing it just like how silent they are now because they know that their fans can do that for them for free and they are one of the reasons why both boxers and organizers came to a point to make it happen as they see a huge cashflow by having this fight.

Spence himself is enough to attract a lot of fans and people to watch his fight what more now that Crawford is added in it.

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I even saw someone saying the Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz event might garner more PPV buys than this one. Cheesy

It's funny how these ultra casuals are purchasing joke fights rather than watching the real fights.

Hearn thinks it will sell at least 500k.

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“I think it does great numbers, 500,000 – 600,000,” said Hearn when discussing the fight on The DAZN Boxing Show.

I believe they will not struggle to sell this fight since there has been anticipation built up for it over the years. The Garcia vs. Tank Davis fight was a success, so I anticipate that this fight will surpass the pay-per-view subscriptions they generated, especially considering that Spence and Crawford are more popular fighters.

I think that will be the high numbers though, but we will see, there's a lot of hype on this fight, but assuming that either is not a PPV star, yeah, maybe that will be the ball park number. As compare to Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis fight wherein this fighters have a lot of social media follower and everyone wanted to see this fight for a long time and both are bankable PPV stars. But still, if they didn't produce the same numbers, maybe a good 500,000 buys is already good for this fight. And then the rematch might get bigger numbers. So everything hang on this fight and see how good this is so that boxing fans are going to be interested on a second fight.

There is no need for these two fighters to have a large number of social media followers or to generate buzz on social media. The true fans of these fighters already know them, and they will undoubtedly want to witness this fight, whether through pay-per-view or by attending the event. In my opinion, this fight holds greater significance than the Garcia vs. Davis fight, as both of these fighters have consistently held high rankings in the pound-for-pound list. Therefore, it is almost certain that this fight will generate a substantial number of pay-per-view views.

But still though, social media is every where and it could be a good gauge for this boxers. I mean you can measure how popular you are by the numbers of your followers. It might not translate to viewerships, but still for me it's a measuring stick, just like how Ryan's social media is.

The thing though with both Spence and Crawford is that they are not that young, meaning they are not into this social media thingy and just going back to the old roots of fighting and creating their own hype. And their brand name are the one who are going to carry them. However, we think think that this fight is not going to generate 1 million PPV.

You're right about that, but on social media you can see that a lot of things, like the popularity of some boxers, can be compromised by a lot of things they see, hear and say about them, of course by speculating about Crawford and Spence, too. Like any of the boxers worldwide, everyone who says something is always based on what they see and has been able to dispel from them, it is known that a boxer wins according to his training, he does not win by luck or something similar, he wins there, if a boxer does not want a particular matchup, it must be or is very likely because he has not had the necessary training.

I don't know what many people think , perhaps a boxer is very good at what he has always done because he is very Famous , in this case it Helps a lot, but of course things can also change with training and that is something that very few Bettors they take into considerations that are very technical , for me in this case Crawford has Better Preparation.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 28, 2023, 10:05:43 PM

^^ That is still a weak line up for the undercard in this event, just to be honest. PBC should put up a fight that is also worth specially in the 147 lbs as they have a lot of great boxers in their stable. And then can billed it as the next one to challenge next either Crawford or Spence.

Pitbull's name just pop up when he was able to stay in full 12 rounds with Tank Davis, who has suffered a injury in his hand that's why he wasn't able to knockout him out. After that, no body remember him.

They can add some names if they want to, but it is safe to assume that there are some reasons why the undercards are like that when in-fact they can do something more.
It's either the boxers in the stable are not yet ready or haven't found any interesting opponent, or they just did it for a reason as they want to allocate as many as possible for the Spence-Crawford undisputed fight as that is undeniably the first reason why people are going to watch the event live.

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Quote from: TravelMug on June 30, 2023, 12:22:09 AM

There's a lot of coverage for this fight already, so maybe the hype is slow but coming fight night, it will be one of the biggest fight in terms of revenue and PPV numbers and live gate.

Crawford said that he is ready for whatever Spence bring in the table. He might not look for a knockout, but if he has chance then he will go for it as that could be the icing in the cake for him.

Still a month to go and I think we might see some waves starting and noise in about two weeks before the fight date. No marketing either by both of the camp to keep the flame lit, that means that they are not worried because they already know the gravity of the fight they are making.

As for Crawford, I pretty much think that he knows that he got the advantage/upper hand in this fight but he's not taking any chances because he also know that Spence is not any ordinary boxer that can be underestimated easily.

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

I bet they only had some speculations about what would be the PPV buys but I'm somehow confident that they aren't expecting any actual range as they also knew the factors surrounding it.

Yeah, they definitely have numbers in mind already, so they have better put that into perspective instead of anticipating big numbers that is not going to happen because even though they are pound for pound fighters, they didn't bring much as far as PPV numbers.

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What they did was they rented a much bigger venue which was the T-Mobile Arena to ensure that they could take advantage of the fact while the fight was anticipated by many and bring a much bigger profits to their pockets.

Live gets could be different though, but this is business, and tickets are going to be very expensive. But their could be boxing fans who are willing to pay a great deal of money to see this as close as they can and doesn't want to watch it on TV.

It will be a challenge for them if they can surpass the hype and Davis-Garcia fight because that specific fight broke 1 Million plus PPV buys which is already considered as a big figure in today's era but somehow, I think the Crawford-Spence fight can keep up with it just fine or even achieve more than what the Davis-Garcia fight had because this fight has been asked by the fans for some years now, and finally, we now have the fight upcoming.

I honestly think that both Spence and Crawford is not that worried about their PPV buys because having these two names in the equation will definitely result into a big fight with lots of money generated plus PPV buys will definitely exceed the Davis-Garcia fight, it seems like automatic already considering that Spence himself can already have a decent figures, what more now that Crawford is included.

As of now, both of them are so silent and it's quite understandable why as they only have less than 1 month now to prepare for this war that they agreed into. Looking forward to see an action-packed fight as that what other people wanted as well.

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Quote from: stadus on June 29, 2023, 10:19:04 AM

Hey OP, can you update the date on the right to avoid confusion? They are scheduled for July 29, 2023.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-date-time-tickets-card-odds/dwharqhsuwgbb7qcaobomkr6

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The Ring first reported that Spence, the WBC, IBF, and WBA welterweight champion, will face WBO champion Crawford in July. Mike Coppinger later reported that the fight was confirmed for July 29. The fight is in Las Vegas and airs on Showtime PPV.

He was active like 2 weeks ago?

But I have seen already prior to your request that he should update the date, but he didn't respond.

There's a lot of coverage for this fight already, so maybe the hype is slow but coming fight night, it will be one of the biggest fight in terms of revenue and PPV numbers and live gate.

Crawford said that he is ready for whatever Spence bring in the table. He might not look for a knockout, but if he has chance then he will go for it as that could be the icing in the cake for him.

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Hey OP, can you update the date on the right to avoid confusion? They are scheduled for July 29, 2023.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-date-time-tickets-card-odds/dwharqhsuwgbb7qcaobomkr6

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The Ring first reported that Spence, the WBC, IBF, and WBA welterweight champion, will face WBO champion Crawford in July. Mike Coppinger later reported that the fight was confirmed for July 29. The fight is in Las Vegas and airs on Showtime PPV.

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^^ That is still a weak line up for the undercard in this event, just to be honest. PBC should put up a fight that is also worth specially in the 147 lbs as they have a lot of great boxers in their stable. And then can billed it as the next one to challenge next either Crawford or Spence.

Pitbull's name just pop up when he was able to stay in full 12 rounds with Tank Davis, who has suffered a injury in his hand that's why he wasn't able to knockout him out. After that, no body remember him.

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Quote from: harizen on June 23, 2023, 06:22:24 PM

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But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

We should take note that Errol Spence Jr., regardless of the status of his opponent, is considered a "PPV King". That's even the main reason they always front about why he should get always the biggest slice of the pie, aside from he holds several titles, as no doubt he's the main reason why most of his fights ended up in decent PPV sales.

And since this match between Spence and Crawford is a long-anticipated match, that takes several years in the making, aside also from the fact that Crawford is a big thing, I'm sure they can sell over a million PPVs and might be one of the notable sales in the boxing PPV history.

There is no way that this fight will not have at least a million PPV buys considering that Crawford is a much followed star plus there is Spence who is the PPV King. Moreover, this fight has been waited by a lot of people for quite a long time now so I seriously doubt that they will have any problems about the generations at all. Lastly, I know that the fans are seriously hoping that there will be no hurdles while the fight date is nearing.

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Anyways, is the undercards for this match already released? Never saw any details about it when I tried to search for it.

Opening the show will be unbeaten heavyweight Gurgen Hovhannisyan (4-0, 4 KOs) vs Viktor Faust (11-1, 7 KOs).

Up next will be super-welterweight contender Jesus Ramos (20-0, 16 KOs) vs Sergio Garcia (34-2, 14 KOs).

And the final fight prior to the main event will be lightweight contender Isaac 'Pitbull' Cruz (24-2, 17 KOs) vs Giovanni Cabrera (21-0, 7 KOs).

Source: https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1477592/errol-spence-vs-terence-crawford-undercard-gervonta-davis/

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Well, Eddie Hearn is a huge boxing fan himself and is probably the biggest promoter right now and is a master in the business with superstars Canelo, AJ, and fighters from other promoters that fight in DAZN except GBP which has its own exclusive contract with the network. His 500k-600k is a good estimate and is already a big success given these economic hard times.

This fight though has real potential of breaking a million PPV buys. I also believe that tickets will be sold out quickly. So far PBC has named Pitbull Cruz battling against Giovanni Cabrera in the undercards probably to get the huge Latino boxing community.

In terms of the live gate's tickets, there is no question at all that it will be sold out quickly just like what Garcia vs Davis fight did or pretty much faster than that because we have to include the fact that there will be some businessmen who are having some business in gaining these tickets as fast as possible so that they can sell it in a much higher price. But when it comes to PPV buys, I doubt that they can break a million of it because the world is getting modern each day and big fights like this are almost shown for free in some sources like Facebook live or even YouTube because they are seeking the viewers as well in-exchange for some voluntary amounts to watch the fight live.

As far as Eddie Hearn, he says that PBC, Top Rank and Golden Boy doesn't want him promoting in the US.

As for the PPV buys, I do agree, I don't see the fight getting or breaking the 1 million PPV buys, not a hater but they will be lucky to get 500,000 PPV. Still the king of PPV for this year is Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis.

Live gates must be different though, it could be sold out by now and only premium tickets might be available.

Were we expecting the Garcia vs. Davis fight to reach at least 1 million PPV buys? I believe the expectation was around 500k, give or take. Therefore, I think the Spence and Crawford fight is somewhat undervalued. It's possible that we might be surprised if they surpass the 1.2 million PPV buys of the Garcia vs. Davis fight.

I bet they only had some speculations about what would be the PPV buys but I'm somehow confident that they aren't expecting any actual range as they also knew the factors surrounding it.

Yeah, they definitely have numbers in mind already, so they have better put that into perspective instead of anticipating big numbers that is not going to happen because even though they are pound for pound fighters, they didn't bring much as far as PPV numbers.

Quote from: mirakal on June 24, 2023, 09:43:23 AM

What they did was they rented a much bigger venue which was the T-Mobile Arena to ensure that they could take advantage of the fact while the fight was anticipated by many and bring a much bigger profits to their pockets.

Live gets could be different though, but this is business, and tickets are going to be very expensive. But their could be boxing fans who are willing to pay a great deal of money to see this as close as they can and doesn't want to watch it on TV.

It will be a challenge for them if they can surpass the hype and Davis-Garcia fight because that specific fight broke 1 Million plus PPV buys which is already considered as a big figure in today's era but somehow, I think the Crawford-Spence fight can keep up with it just fine or even achieve more than what the Davis-Garcia fight had because this fight has been asked by the fans for some years now, and finally, we now have the fight upcoming.

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