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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 06, 2020, 11:56:47 AM

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Zimbabwe lost their test status because of the corruption issues within the cricket board, and not due to the weak performance of the Zimbabwean test team. You can argue that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams but I am going to disagree. At least Afghanistan deserves a chance to progress to the top division. They have proved that they can compete against the big-3 nations on a regular basis. I would argue that Afghanistan is as good as any of the lower ranking first division teams, such as West Indies and Sri Lanka.

During 2004 all the senior players retired from the team because of political reasons but the ban stemmed from the fact that they were not able to pick competing players in the playing eleven and their Test status was removed not because of direct political reason but their ability to perform against top teams and the political reason was just a part on the overall picture. Afghanistan have some really world class players but they still need to have some solid batsman to compete against top opponents.

So the first Test starts today but the rains are spoiling the day and surprising to me Stuart Broad is not in the team.

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Officially Cricket is back Ladies, so is flirty weather of England. Bit dark as far as weather is concern, so toss is delayed for now. Let's hope for the best and fingers crossed.

This is what 15 men squad looks like for both teams

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 06, 2020, 08:09:14 AM

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ICC I think is giving equal opportunity to all the teams. They are considering every team the same considering most of them are not playing a lot of Test cricket nowadays. This may be the reason why they have included all 9 teams in one division.

If they want to give equal opportunity to everyone, then why they placed the three teams (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) in the second division? Why can't they place them with the other nine teams? I find it ridiculous to relegate a promising team such as Afghanistan, without any chance to quality to the first division. Test status should not be permanent. Teams which perform poorly should lose their test status.

The only reason that I can quote for these three teams is that all three teams are very weak teams. They all have not played a lot of cricket as compared to the other nine If compare the last two years. Mind you I am talking about cricket and not any format of cricket.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 07, 2020, 08:18:49 AM

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 07, 2020, 07:26:15 AM

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I am expecting a whitewash by England, but we we know, cricket is such an unpredictable sport.

Including some bizarre show of batting collapse, both teams are known for their batting collapse once a while so i am counting on it with low scoring games.

Well English team has Ben Stokes :-P
I mean seriously, I will be looking forward seeing if Stokes performs. He had some exciting cricket before the lockdown, in and after the world cup period.

If individual player is the criteria then they have Jason holder, number 1 all-rounder in the Test format and he's leading the team as well Grin

. Stokes sitting at 2nd spot and gap between them is wide. Stokey got famous but don't underestimate the Holder.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 07, 2020, 07:35:27 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 07, 2020, 07:26:15 AM

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I am expecting a whitewash by England, but we we know, cricket is such an unpredictable sport.

Including some bizarre show of batting collapse, both teams are known for their batting collapse once a while so i am counting on it with low scoring games.

Well English team has Ben Stokes :-P
I mean seriously, I will be looking forward seeing if Stokes performs. He had some exciting cricket before the lockdown, in and after the world cup period.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 07, 2020, 07:26:15 AM

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I am expecting a whitewash by England, but we we know, cricket is such an unpredictable sport.

Including some bizarre show of batting collapse, both teams are known for their batting collapse once a while so i am counting on it with low scoring games.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 07, 2020, 07:00:17 AM

Hello guys!
Tomorrow we have 1st Test, West Indies tour of England at Southampton. So excited for this. After few months we will have live cricket. I really hope we will see some exciting cricket on the ground.

Let's get going with the discussion.

Wow!!! Almost forgot about it. So finally we'll be witnessing some live action, after four months!!!

I am expecting a whitewash by England, but we we know, cricket is such an unpredictable sport.

BTW, the ECB today confirmed the schedule for two of the visiting teams (Pakistan and Ireland). The Pakistan cricket team has already arrived in England for the test and T20 series, while Ireland will be playing three ODI matches later this month (World Cup Super League, July 30 to August 4 in Southampton).

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 07, 2020, 07:07:42 AM

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I was also very excited about this event I was thinking we have very little cricket community so can we start any poll or any thing interesting which help us to talk about this first test otherwise look like its going to be very bore as West Indies is not good side and they are going to face some serious troubles here against England even its without crowd.

Not going for any pool yet, maybe in the next series. I do not have much idea about WI test team. I am curious to know the result of the warm up match. Did West Indies handled them well or it was one sided? We need to have one thing in mind that all these players are back to cricket after long time. Probably this will affect in their performance.

West Indies team have no tour matches as they play few matches but these was not with counties or other teams just practice matches with Holder XI vs Brathwaite XI but Brian Lara this statement is good as he wants West Indies must win test in four days https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/53314798

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Quote from: BitSat19 on July 07, 2020, 07:03:44 AM

I was also very excited about this event I was thinking we have very little cricket community so can we start any poll or any thing interesting which help us to talk about this first test otherwise look like its going to be very bore as West Indies is not good side and they are going to face some serious troubles here against England even its without crowd.

Not going for any pool yet, maybe in the next series. I do not have much idea about WI test team. I am curious to know the result of the warm up match. Did West Indies handled them well or it was one sided? We need to have one thing in mind that all these players are back to cricket after long time. Probably this will affect in their performance.

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on July 07, 2020, 07:00:17 AM

Hello guys!
Tomorrow we have 1st Test, West Indies tour of England at Southampton. So excited for this. After few months we will have live cricket. I really hope we will see some exciting cricket on the ground.

Let's get going with the discussion.

I was also very excited about this event I was thinking we have very little cricket community so can we start any poll or any thing interesting which help us to talk about this first test otherwise look like its going to be very bore as West Indies is not good side and they are going to face some serious troubles here against England even its without crowd.

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Hello guys!
Tomorrow we have 1st Test, West Indies tour of England at Southampton. So excited for this. After few months we will have live cricket. I really hope we will see some exciting cricket on the ground.

Let's get going with the discussion.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on July 06, 2020, 10:22:45 AM

If a team is performing badly then they would loose the Test status as Zimbabwe lost their Test status in the past and there is not much countries playing this popular sport as there are only 12 playing countries and in that West Indies select players from around 15 countries and in that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams as they cannot challenge top teams even at home and if you play the rest of the top countries more often it will be boring. England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and India are strong when their are playing at home and if any touring team defeats them then it will be a hard fought game.

I would consider this as a very weak defense of the ICC's decision to include 9 teams in the first division of test cricket.

Zimbabwe lost their test status because of the corruption issues within the cricket board, and not due to the weak performance of the Zimbabwean test team. You can argue that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams but I am going to disagree. At least Afghanistan deserves a chance to progress to the top division. They have proved that they can compete against the big-3 nations on a regular basis. I would argue that Afghanistan is as good as any of the lower ranking first division teams, such as West Indies and Sri Lanka.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 06, 2020, 08:09:14 AM

If they want to give equal opportunity to everyone, then why they placed the three teams (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) in the second division? Why can't they place them with the other nine teams? I find it ridiculous to relegate a promising team such as Afghanistan, without any chance to quality to the first division. Test status should not be permanent. Teams which perform poorly should lose their test status.

If a team is performing badly then they would loose the Test status as Zimbabwe lost their Test status in the past and there is not much countries playing this popular sport as there are only 12 playing countries and in that West Indies select players from around 15 countries and in that Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan are weak teams as they cannot challenge top teams even at home and if you play the rest of the top countries more often it will be boring. England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand and India are strong when their are playing at home and if any touring team defeats them then it will be a hard fought game.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 05, 2020, 09:44:29 PM

ICC I think is giving equal opportunity to all the teams. They are considering every team the same considering most of them are not playing a lot of Test cricket nowadays. This may be the reason why they have included all 9 teams in one division.

If they want to give equal opportunity to everyone, then why they placed the three teams (Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan) in the second division? Why can't they place them with the other nine teams? I find it ridiculous to relegate a promising team such as Afghanistan, without any chance to quality to the first division. Test status should not be permanent. Teams which perform poorly should lose their test status.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 05, 2020, 08:08:06 AM

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I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.

Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.

ICC I think is giving equal opportunity to all the teams. They are considering every team the same considering most of them are not playing a lot of Test cricket nowadays. This may be the reason why they have included all 9 teams in one division.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 05, 2020, 08:08:06 AM

Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.

It's true that the recent matches are one-sided and as suggested if we have like 2 divisions we'll have some good matches. But I don't think that will be practically acceptable one when deciding the Test Champion. When it comes to ODI, we have like 8 established cricket teams(IND, AUS, ENG, NZ, SA, PAK, SL, WI/BAN). So in order to decide the test champion, we can't just remove 3-4 teams from the list and ask them to play in the qualifiers to compete with the top teams for the Test championship.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on July 05, 2020, 12:59:41 AM

The match will last for 5 days if West indies are able to show some good performance. Both teams will be playing after a long time and it will be interesting to see how they react to the conditions. England may have slight advantage as they have already played a warmup match recently and the series is going to be in their homeland but i will not under estimate the WI team this time.

Take a look at the West Indies squad and tell me one player who is consistent in the Test level, there are players that performs well in the ODI format in that squad like Shai Hope but to understand the real situation take a look at all the Test averages of the players that are in the squad and majority of the players average around 30 which is not even a standard in International cricket.

Quote from: akhjob on July 05, 2020, 07:47:22 AM

I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.

The only hope for West Indies in the Southampton ground is that they defeated England recently twice in that arena and that is the only confidence they can have going into this match, their batting line up is pathetic and good luck dragging the game till the fifth day against James Anderson, Jofra Archer and Stuart Broad.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 05, 2020, 08:08:06 AM

Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.

I don't think that will be a proper way to handle the championship. The current system is not that bad. There are some teams who play least International test matches which I think one of the major reason of having underperformance. Big teams like India, Australia, England play more matches than other which is another reason of them performing well.

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Quote from: akhjob on July 05, 2020, 07:47:22 AM

I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.

Nowadays most of the test matches can be boring and one-sided. Examples are the recent tours by South Africa to India, and the tour by Pakistan to Australia. And this is one of the reasons why I wanted two divisions in test cricket, with the strongest 5 teams in the first division and the other six teams in the second division. However, the ICC came up with the stupidest idea ever, and they included 9 teams in the first division.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 04, 2020, 02:07:54 PM

Are you guys really interested in watching test matches without any spectators? Test matches with spectators themselves are boring sometimes which is why no spectators makes it even more boring in my opinion.

Generally, I don't bother about the audience Tongue

I love to watch test matches with or without any spectators. I agree that its slow-paced but I don't think it's boring when played between equally matched teams. In T20, batsmen don't value their wicket, they just look at ways to hit the ball for runs. In Test cricket, batsmen actually value their wickets while trying to score runs and play as long as they can. A good ball deserves a leave and a bad one is punished to boundaries, you can see this in Tests. But in T20s, batsmen go after the bowlers all they have to worry about is runs.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on July 05, 2020, 07:26:20 AM

It is test format, and I am not expecting any miracles by the West Indians. Gone are the days, when they used to dominate this format. Now I would consider it a good performance by West Indies, if they somehow avoid a complete white-wash by the England team. BTW, I am very happy about Ben Stokes. He should be leading the team more often. He has got the right balance of aggression and deviousness.

I too am expecting a complete white-wash but I want to see some fight from the West Indies team. I want them to at least drag the game to the last day. If it was one-sided it can be boring.

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