How in the world is NZ rated 2nd in the test rankings? Australians are decimating them at the moment and I feel Australia deserves a far higher ranking in comparison. So many Australian batsmen rose to the occasion in the ongoing match.
Currently they are in 5th rank on ICC test team table but they got rating 102 same as team 3 and 4 so number of matches affected their rank but its not really much important any team could change their entire position with the ability of players. 
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How in the world is NZ rated 2nd in the test rankings? Australians are decimating them at the moment and I feel Australia deserves a far higher ranking in comparison. So many Australian batsmen rose to the occasion in the ongoing match.
Australia started to perform better from the recent Ashes series and with the return of Warner and Smith in the team, before that they had some defeats even at home and even India defeated them and hence the rankings and now they are performing well and it will show in their rankings as it is a point system.Warner-> Marnus-> Paine-> Smith-> Head! New Zealand players need to play more consistently. Williamson has been out of form since the World Cup. I feel like New Zealand are simply trying to avoid a whitewash at the moment.
The advantage for Australia is that they are able to perform as a team while the New Zealand batting revolves around Williamson and coming into this match they already lost two wickets including the prized wicket of Williamson. 
NZ started badly in their first innings and have lost 2 quick wickets for 44 runs in response to OZ score 467 runs . If NZ gets all out before 300 then almost match is with OZ and will be difficult for NZ to comebacks this test match .
How in the world is NZ rated 2nd in the test rankings? Australians are decimating them at the moment and I feel Australia deserves a far higher ranking in comparison. So many Australian batsmen rose to the occasion in the ongoing match.
Warner-> Marnus-> Paine-> Smith-> Head! New Zealand players need to play more consistently. Williamson has been out of form since the World Cup. I feel like New Zealand are simply trying to avoid a whitewash at the moment.
Warner-> Marnus-> Paine-> Smith-> Head! New Zealand players need to play more consistently. Williamson has been out of form since the World Cup. I feel like New Zealand are simply trying to avoid a whitewash at the moment.
Not sure, if anyone noticing slow over rate. for quite some time teams keep repeating this. every team delaying overs, same thing happened today in SA vs Eng. first day stump and 7 overs short. ICC need to do something about it. % of fees is not affecting captains at all and teams are not taking this seriously.
10% or 20% fine from the match fees is a joke. If the ICC wants to make sure that the over rate is maintained, then they should penalize by either deducting runs from the side that is responsible for the delay, or award extra runs for the opposite side. Financial penalties have a disproportionately negative impact on smaller teams such as West Indies, while the bigger teams may chose to ignore it.
Cricketing world is divided on this matter and ICC is confused as far as i understand. ICC gets heat from experts when game lose the overs, Fees penalty is not working. they did ban Windies captain recently due to same reason and decision didn't go well. "Deducting runs" could work on some cases but its very controversial decision.
this is a good article
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25978697/breaches-bans-all-need-know-rate-offences
The way kiwis are playing, they might not able to witness full house in Aus anytime soon.
You know... the international matches are very aggressively contested these days and with the ICC World Test Championship coming in to the picture, the result of each test match has become extremely significant. The real intention of the BCB may be to deny home advantage for Pakistan and thereby gain some valuable points for the World Test Championship. If the match takes place in Dubai or Abu Dhabi instead of Karachi or Lahore, then Bangladesh will be in a much better position to compete against Pakistan.
I don't think that the real reason behind it. The ICC World Test Championship goes like this, Nine of the Twelve Test-playing nations (IND, AUS, NZ, ENG, RSA, PAK, SL, WI, BAN) each of whom will play a Test series against six of the other eight teams. All teams will play Six series (3 Home and 3 Away). Each series consists of between two and five matches. Each team will be able to score a maximum of 120 points from each series and the two teams with the most points at the end of the league stage will contest the final. In the case of a draw or a tie in the final, the two teams playing the final will be declared joint champions.
So, if the match is played on a neutral ground it won't be considered for the ICC World Test Championship rankings.
At one point AUS were looking somewhere around 550-600 runs. But NZ somehow managed to comeback into the game by taking 5 quick wickets after TEA and restricted the Aussies to 467. Currently, they are 1 down scoring 27 runs. I don't understand what's there are in a hurry to score runs. Blundell should have gone for a slower and steadier form of play rather than trying to score every ball. I hope NZ slow and steadily play for atleast 1 day and a half
Edit: Not gonna happen if NZ play like this
40/2
AUS scored huge first innings score of 467 and now NZ started a bit shaky since they lost their first wicket and scoring at 28/1,very few overs remaining for the stumps so better they have to keep their wickets and starts fresh on day 3 and then start scoring more.
Day 1 of of SA vs England belong to England as they rightly choose to bowl And got 9 wickets for just 277. Knock played well and just missed his century by 5 runs and now England would like to bat well and make atleast 400 runs to take good lead .
Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venueb
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
I really do not understand the logic behind this strange demand, i always thought that the issue should be because of the fear of terrorism and now Bangladesh is willing to tour the country but for limited overs match and not for Test matches and what is the specific reason they are coming up with this demand, the terrorist will plan for 4 days and bomb the final day BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
. What ever strange demands they put up i would like to hear the reason they wanted a neutral venue.You know... the international matches are very aggressively contested these days and with the ICC World Test Championship coming in to the picture, the result of each test match has become extremely significant. The real intention of the BCB may be to deny home advantage for Pakistan and thereby gain some valuable points for the World Test Championship. If the match takes place in Dubai or Abu Dhabi instead of Karachi or Lahore, then Bangladesh will be in a much better position to compete against Pakistan.
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Bangladesh Cricket Board and Government doing politics nothing else but I beleive if Pakistan Cricket Board stand with strong decision then surely they will come or lost points in test championship because recently Bangladesh women tour Pakistan and all happen without any problem its really matter of shame for them as they are involving politics in this game.I agree.
Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venueb
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
I really do not understand the logic behind this strange demand, i always thought that the issue should be because of the fear of terrorism and now Bangladesh is willing to tour the country but for limited overs match and not for Test matches and what is the specific reason they are coming up with this demand, the terrorist will plan for 4 days and bomb the final day BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
. What ever strange demands they put up i would like to hear the reason they wanted a neutral venue.You made a good point. Heh, it makes me think that maybe the issue is something else?
Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venueb
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
I really do not understand the logic behind this strange demand, i always thought that the issue should be because of the fear of terrorism and now Bangladesh is willing to tour the country but for limited overs match and not for Test matches and what is the specific reason they are coming up with this demand, the terrorist will plan for 4 days and bomb the final day BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
. What ever strange demands they put up i would like to hear the reason they wanted a neutral venue. We've got an update:
Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venue
https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/3320-bangladesh-insist-on-neutral-venue-for-pakistan-tests
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
Bangladesh Cricket Board and Government doing politics nothing else but I beleive if Pakistan Cricket Board stand with strong decision then surely they will come or lost points in test championship because recently Bangladesh women tour Pakistan and all happen without any problem its really matter of shame for them as they are involving politics in this game. Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venue
https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/3320-bangladesh-insist-on-neutral-venue-for-pakistan-tests
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
We've got an update:
Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venue
https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/3320-bangladesh-insist-on-neutral-venue-for-pakistan-tests
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
Bangladesh ready for Pakistan tour but demand Test series on neutral venue
https://www.geosuper.tv/latest/3320-bangladesh-insist-on-neutral-venue-for-pakistan-tests
BTW, didn't Bangladesh get the Test cricket status because of Pakistan back in the 1990's?
Captains will be fined in these scenarios normally if the match goes for final over and final day but most of the matches not getting last longer so ICC didn't consider it much though.300 looks completely possible the final tail could get there with another 23 runs on the boards and not to mention the avg first innings score on that ground is just 328 so they are getting nearly par.
If you take into consideration the average first innings score then South Africa is pretty close to the par score but they batted really poorly and they were gifting wickets to the England bowlers and if not for the resistance of Quinton de Kock and Pretorius they would have folded much early, what i would like to know is the par second innings score in this pitch and whether the pitch will remain the same in the final two days, if it is the old pitch in Centurion it usually remains the same even in the final day but now a days i am not following cricket that much to understand the changes in pitch preparation. Not sure, if anyone noticing slow over rate. for quite some time teams keep repeating this. every team delaying overs, same thing happened today in SA vs Eng. first day stump and 7 overs short. ICC need to do something about it. % of fees is not affecting captains at all and teams are not taking this seriously.
Captains will be fined in these scenarios normally if the match goes for final over and final day but most of the matches not getting last longer so ICC didn't consider it much though.300 looks completely possible the final tail could get there with another 23 runs on the boards and not to mention the avg first innings score on that ground is just 328 so they are getting nearly par. 10% or 20% fine from the match fees is a joke. If the ICC wants to make sure that the over rate is maintained, then they should penalize by either deducting runs from the side that is responsible for the delay, or award extra runs for the opposite side. Financial penalties have a disproportionately negative impact on smaller teams such as West Indies, while the bigger teams may chose to ignore it.
How do you even calculate how much runs should be penalized and it is not the proper way, if the captain is purposely slowing down the over rate then he will get suspended for a few games and that is the rules and they will get penalized and i do not want to see a change in that decision as it will create another mysterious rule that confuses people, less confusion more enjoyable it will be. 
Not sure, if anyone noticing slow over rate. for quite some time teams keep repeating this. every team delaying overs, same thing happened today in SA vs Eng. first day stump and 7 overs short. ICC need to do something about it. % of fees is not affecting captains at all and teams are not taking this seriously.
10% or 20% fine from the match fees is a joke. If the ICC wants to make sure that the over rate is maintained, then they should penalize by either deducting runs from the side that is responsible for the delay, or award extra runs for the opposite side. Financial penalties have a disproportionately negative impact on smaller teams such as West Indies, while the bigger teams may chose to ignore it.
Really surprised to see that South Africa managed to score 277 runs despite having a really poor start and at one point lost half their side when the scores reached a Nelson and then they were able to build a partnership with the debut player Pretorius and de Kock which saved the face of South Africa and now they have lost 9 wickets and Philander is still in the crease and anything from this score in the morning is a bonus for South Africa and the problem with England is that Ben Stokes is not feeling well and we might not even see come out to back because of sickness.
Not sure, if anyone noticing slow over rate. for quite some time teams keep repeating this. every team delaying overs, same thing happened today in SA vs Eng. first day stump and 7 overs short. ICC need to do something about it. % of fees is not affecting captains at all and teams are not taking this seriously.
8 overs remaining for today. If South Africa manages to survive, then it will be a huge moral booster for them. A total of somewhere around 300 is going to put a lot of pressure on England. The poor form of Jofra Archer seriously affected the English bowling prospects. And it was surprising to see the English captain (Joe Root) sticking with him. I believe that Root should have given more overs to in form bowlers such as Sam Curran.
Edit: South Africa just lost their 9th wicket. Kagiso Rabada cleaned up by Stuart Broad. South Africa need to survive another 7.2 overs with one wicket remaining (Vernon Philander / Anrich Nortje at crease).
Edit: South Africa just lost their 9th wicket. Kagiso Rabada cleaned up by Stuart Broad. South Africa need to survive another 7.2 overs with one wicket remaining (Vernon Philander / Anrich Nortje at crease).
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