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Quote from: ragavancoin on November 27, 2019, 07:54:41 AM

I am taking about Afghanistan vs west indies test match Afghanistan already played their first innings season scored 187 for all out and west indies are playing the first innings (68/2 in 22 over) can west indies give big total for Afghanistan? and it will help to west indies to test match with innings?

I did not notice that a match is going on, was waiting for the next England New Zealand match which is the only entertaining contest in the coming weeks, the rest will be mainly one sided and boring.

By the way who is Rahkeem Cornwall, he took 7 wickets Shocked

, will watch the highlights if it is available. West Indies will built a huge first innings total and then they will put Afghanistan under pressure and will try to finish the match within four days.

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Quote from: ragavancoin on November 27, 2019, 07:54:41 AM

I am taking about Afghanistan vs west indies test match Afghanistan already played their first innings season scored 187 for all out and west indies are playing the first innings (68/2 in 22 over) can west indies give big total for Afghanistan? and it will help to west indies to test match with innings?

Well.. Afghanistan once again proved that they can't compete against the other test sides in any format other than T20. They do have a few T20 stars such as Rashid Khan, Mujib ur Rahman, Zahir Khan, Mohammad Nabi.etc. But these players fail when they play test or ODI format. And it is very surprising, because they have a very competitive domestic 4-day competition.

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I am taking about Afghanistan vs west indies test match Afghanistan already played their first innings season scored 187 for all out and west indies are playing the first innings (68/2 in 22 over) can west indies give big total for Afghanistan? and it will help to west indies to test match with innings?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2019, 08:37:14 PM

What turned the match in favor of New Zealand was the 7th wicket partnership of 261 runs between Bradley-John Watling and Mitchell Santner. That single partnership turned the course of the match in favor of the hosts.

It is a group sport and if two of the eleven members take the match away then it is a win situation and there was no one from England side to perform like that and hence they lost the match, if both the teams performed equally well then we would have seen a draw Wink

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2019, 08:37:14 PM

I am expecting an even contest during the Hamilton test. New Zealand may be having the home advantage, but without Trent Boult, their bowling looks weak. Boult is a much under-rated bowler, despite performing consistently over the years. No team is overly dependent on a single bowler as NZ is on Trent Boult, which is clear from the fact that he has missed just 6 matches out of the last 70 for New Zealand.

I think you missed the match, Trent Boult just took one wicket in the first innings and he was injured in the second innings and he had no part in the win in the last match, Southee, Neil Wagner and Mitchell Santner was the star performer in the last match with the ball and Watling and Santner performed with the bat.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on November 26, 2019, 11:16:55 AM

Hamilton is good place for pace bowlers but right now New Zealand is in very good form and their bowling and batting are much superior then Visitors so I am not feeling they can do any resistance this is going to be one sided and New Zealand is going to win this series by 2 - 0 very easily.

Well.. I was quite surprised by your post. Even during the first two days of the Mount Maunganui test, England was on top. What turned the match in favor of New Zealand was the 7th wicket partnership of 261 runs between Bradley-John Watling and Mitchell Santner. That single partnership turned the course of the match in favor of the hosts.

I am expecting an even contest during the Hamilton test. New Zealand may be having the home advantage, but without Trent Boult, their bowling looks weak. Boult is a much under-rated bowler, despite performing consistently over the years. No team is overly dependent on a single bowler as NZ is on Trent Boult, which is clear from the fact that he has missed just 6 matches out of the last 70 for New Zealand.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on November 26, 2019, 11:16:55 AM

Hamilton is good place for pace bowlers but right now New Zealand is in very good form and their bowling and batting are much superior then Visitors so I am not feeling they can do any resistance this is going to be one sided and New Zealand is going to win this series by 2 - 0 very easily.

The problem with England is that their main player in Test is Joe Root and he has not performed well in the past few matches and so is the reason you see that England is struggling and on the other hand the New Zealand players are in good form and Jofra Archer their main bowler did not have any impact in the match and he just took one wicket in the entire match and that is not what England was expecting from him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 25, 2019, 08:49:57 PM

Quote from: onrise on November 25, 2019, 12:59:56 PM

It’s going to beat bouncy pitch and it would be real test of the team as well if they could adjust to that situation and also results in a draw would be a big thing as per England would be considered . But it should be a good contest overall .

The second test is going to be played at Hamilton, and the track there has historically favored the pace bowlers. But this can be actually good news for England, in case their bowlers such as Jofra Archer and Stuart Broad rise to the occasion. On the other hand, New Zealand will be crippled by the absence of Trent Boult (will be replaced by either Lockie Ferguson or Matt Henry).

Hamilton is good place for pace bowlers but right now New Zealand is in very good form and their bowling and batting are much superior then Visitors so I am not feeling they can do any resistance this is going to be one sided and New Zealand is going to win this series by 2 - 0 very easily.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 26, 2019, 09:51:14 AM

Was he talking about Sreesanth? Because I remember Gavaskar badmouthing him very regularly. One thing that I don't like about Gavaskar is that he tends to be very biased towards players from Maharashtra. For him, players such as Ajinkya Rahane and Kedar Jadhav are legendary, but at the same time Ravindra Jadeja and Cheteshwar Pujara are very average.

Gavaskar used to be very vocal when the players show aggressive behavior in the pitch as the words he used to say is that it will destroy the spirit of the game and when he was playing he never cared about that as he punched and threw bat at players when he disapproves with umpire decision and the members who knew that history will laugh at all these comments, it is natural that he will hype and support players from Maharashtra. I still remember these people were mocking Jadeja for the number of triple centuries he scored in domestic matches when he was making his debut as if he got into the team because of luck.

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^^ Majority of Indian commentators go gaga for Mumbai based cricketer so its understandable and i am not sure if your assumption are correct when you say he consider them average (Jadeja and Pujara) . he really likes Puji as far as test cricket is concern and if my intuition are right then he has crush on Jadeja Grin

with big hard on whatever he does ( fielding, bowling, Batting - his sword celebration- ) I have seen countless times where he takes his side.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on November 26, 2019, 09:06:42 AM

There are some below average players that are sitting in the commentary booth and give out opinions and while they were playing they were not even that good and they like to critic, i have heard Gavaskar giving his opinion when some players show some aggressiveness in the playing field and during his playing days Gavaskar got involved in many fights with players and umpires and even stopped matches and those people come out and criticize, Manjrekar is not even an entertaining commentator and yet he is making a ton of money doing this gig.

Was he talking about Sreesanth? Because I remember Gavaskar badmouthing him very regularly. One thing that I don't like about Gavaskar is that he tends to be very biased towards players from Maharashtra. For him, players such as Ajinkya Rahane and Kedar Jadhav are legendary, but at the same time Ravindra Jadeja and Cheteshwar Pujara are very average.

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Quote from: TalkStar on November 26, 2019, 04:40:30 AM

Manjrekar and Harsha is well experienced with their commentary and its expected to have different opinions from them. I think the visibility issues will decrease day by day when cricketers will play with pink ball from their academy cricket to local leagues.

The visibility issue or the issue in seeing a pink ball coming at your rather than the white and red balls. If it is simply a color issue it will be sorted out as every player will be facing them for the first time.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 26, 2019, 07:52:38 AM

There is no doubt that Manju was always an over-rated individual. He was a below average player, who somehow found a slot in the playing XI, thanks to his connections. And surprisingly he has now become a regular in the commentary panel, despite his poor language skills and lack of enthusiasm. There is no doubt that Harsha is much better than Manju.

There are some below average players that are sitting in the commentary booth and give out opinions and while they were playing they were not even that good and they like to critic, i have heard Gavaskar giving his opinion when some players show some aggressiveness in the playing field and during his playing days Gavaskar got involved in many fights with players and umpires and even stopped matches and those people come out and criticize, Manjrekar is not even an entertaining commentator and yet he is making a ton of money doing this gig.

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There is no doubt that Manju was always an over-rated individual. He was a below average player, who somehow found a slot in the playing XI, thanks to his connections. And surprisingly he has now become a regular in the commentary panel, despite his poor language skills and lack of enthusiasm. There is no doubt that Harsha is much better than Manju.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 26, 2019, 04:22:22 AM

Quote from: Avirunes on November 26, 2019, 03:37:49 AM

Did anybody watched this news? Seems spicy. Two top commentators- Sanjay Manjrekar and Harsha Bhogle disagreeing with each other over pink ball visibility
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Bottom line is Sanju Manju aka Sanjay Manjrekar is big time jerk and shitty commentator, always talks shit about everyone and makes cringe worthy comments here and there. first with jadeja now making shitty argument with Harsha Bhogle who happens to be one of the sanest voice in the commentators fraternity.

Right or wrong doesn't matter in this case but only attitude.

Kinda agree with that. I also recall that spat with Jadeja but Jadeja is a kind of guy who reacts to such and it was a good one to shut Sanju right away. But Harsha Bhogle is different. He is a calm guy so lucky for Sanjay that he didn't faced another comment making him look like a clown.

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on November 26, 2019, 04:49:55 AM

It should have been avoided and there is no point in arguing on air.

Well everyone has difference in opinion but really there was no reason to drag that topic long. Harsha Bhogle just suggested to ask players what they feel about pink ball visibility but Sanjay still kept up with his side of opinion. That shows how he think of himself (way above others, no respect to others). Really sad to see that actual side of character.

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Quote from: TalkStar on November 26, 2019, 04:40:30 AM

There is no doubt that playing test matches with pink ball is relatively difficult than previous red ball. Last test match series between India VS Bangladesh can be a good example for that. Bowlers were getting extra benefit by using pink ball where every batsman were struggling.

If there is any advantage to the bowlers then i am glad about it and they should continue with that even if it is the visual issue or getting more swing to the bowlers they need some benefits too as the game has revolved around batsman for a very long time and things have to be changed to have some interest, i am tired of seeing batsman scoring century after century in dead pitches, as a fan i like to see the battle and i think this is a new beginning to see some great battles in Test matches.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 26, 2019, 04:22:22 AM

Bottom line is Sanju Manju aka Sanjay Manjrekar is big time jerk and shitty commentator, always talks shit about everyone and makes cringe worthy comments here and there. first with jadeja now making shitty argument with Harsha Bhogle who happens to be one of the sanest voice in the commentators fraternity.

Right or wrong doesn't matter in this case but only attitude.

Here Sanjay Manjrekar is trying to establish that he was an international cricket player and he knows better than Harsha Cheesy

It was a jerk move and what was his issue with Jadeja. There is no doubt that Harsha Bhogle is the better commentator and anyone can voice their opinion and you do not counter that with a dick move Roll Eyes

Quote from: Avirunes on November 26, 2019, 03:37:49 AM

It's getting quite spicy amongst Indian cricket fans and I think disagreeing at that point even without agreeing to Bhogle's suggestion to ask players was bad part from Manjrekar. What do you guys think?

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Quote from: Avirunes on November 26, 2019, 03:37:49 AM

Did anybody watched this news? Seems spicy. Two top commentators- Sanjay Manjrekar and Harsha Bhogle disagreeing with each other over pink ball visibility: https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/sports/cricket/story/sanjay-majrekar-harsha-bhogle-commentary-controversy-pink-ball-1622490-2019-11-25

There is no doubt that playing test matches with pink ball is relatively difficult than previous red ball. Last test match series between India VS Bangladesh can be a good example for that. Bowlers were getting extra benefit by using pink ball where every batsman were struggling. Specially in the last match both team faced difficulties for pink ball. Basically players are habitually connected with red ball and its from the beginning of academy cricket or under 19 matches. Thats the reason why they struggle to play with pink ball. I have my own experience with pink ball and what i found is that red ball is much visible than pink ball. Specially during spin deliveries its quite difficult to play with front foot shots.

Manjrekar and Harsha is well experienced with their commentary and its expected to have different opinions from them. I think the visibility issues will decrease day by day when cricketers will play with pink ball from their academy cricket to local leagues.

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Quote from: deadley on November 25, 2019, 04:58:53 AM

England played really bad cricket in last day, they throw their wickets on bad balls and lose the match because of that otherwise pitch was not that bad even on 5th day of match.

The ball was spinning a lot in the last day and the England batsman were trying their best to defend those deliveries from Santner and Wagner bowled a wonder spell as he was mixing the balls with bouncers and slower balls and his specialty knuckle ball and since England were on a defense they started loosing their wickets as it is not that easy for players with over 100 strike rate in ODI to defend for a long time.

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Quote from: Avirunes on November 26, 2019, 03:37:49 AM

Did anybody watched this news? Seems spicy. Two top commentators- Sanjay Manjrekar and Harsha Bhogle disagreeing with each other over pink ball visibility
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Bottom line is Sanju Manju aka Sanjay Manjrekar is big time jerk and shitty commentator, always talks shit about everyone and makes cringe worthy comments here and there. first with jadeja now making shitty argument with Harsha Bhogle who happens to be one of the sanest voice in the commentators fraternity.

Right or wrong doesn't matter in this case but only attitude.

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Did anybody watched this news? Seems spicy. Two top commentators- Sanjay Manjrekar and Harsha Bhogle disagreeing with each other over pink ball visibility: https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/sports/cricket/story/sanjay-majrekar-harsha-bhogle-commentary-controversy-pink-ball-1622490-2019-11-25

It's getting quite spicy amongst Indian cricket fans and I think disagreeing at that point even without agreeing to Bhogle's suggestion to ask players was bad part from Manjrekar. What do you guys think?

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Quote from: onrise on November 25, 2019, 12:59:56 PM

It’s going to beat bouncy pitch and it would be real test of the team as well if they could adjust to that situation and also results in a draw would be a big thing as per England would be considered . But it should be a good contest overall .

The second test is going to be played at Hamilton, and the track there has historically favored the pace bowlers. But this can be actually good news for England, in case their bowlers such as Jofra Archer and Stuart Broad rise to the occasion. On the other hand, New Zealand will be crippled by the absence of Trent Boult (will be replaced by either Lockie Ferguson or Matt Henry).

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