Topic: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] - page 1016. (Read 167790 times)

Not every team...

2 finalist ( 3 match in group + 3 matches in semifinal + 3 matches in final = 9 matches)

2 losing teams in Semifinal ( 3 matches in group + 3 matches in semifinal = 6 matches)

4 losing teams in group round (3 matches in group)

Yeah, That's why i said at the very start "Genuine World Test Cup" need 1 year window without any international cricket. its another discussion if ICC/boards are okay with or not but that's a real reason World Test Championship is running for 2 years.

^^^^ 3 match series each for QF, SF and the final? That would mean that the teams need to play 9 matches each. If this format is adopted, then the tournament can easily stretch for 4-5 months. And I don't think that we have that much gap available in the international cricket calendar. ICC as well as the individual boards will be against this idea, as the revenues will be very low.

Ideally it should be 3 test match series (Away and home), obviously this would take much more time than usual and going with single country for venue's purpose  is very biased as it favors host country ridiculously.

Its bit bizarre idea but if there is a possibility then ICC should opt for neutral country (other than top 8 test playing nation) for ex : Pick Zimbabwe as a venue and prepare 6-8 different pitches. Followed by 2 groups (Top 8 teams) and introduce 3 match series.

Group A                                
Team 1 vs Team 5 = 3 match series
Team 4 vs Team 8 = 3 match series

1st Semi Final : Winner 1 vs Winner 2 = 3 match series


Group B
Team 2 vs Team 6 = 3 match series
Team 3 vs Team 7 = 3 match series

2nd Semi Final : Winner 1 vs Winner 2 = 3 match series


World Test Cup Final
Group A Winner vs Group B winner = 3 match series

** not perfect draft but tried my best with the fixtures.

Then two test matches for every team as one home and one away and decide on points may be this bring some better results and give more attraction to peoples and teams.

These numbers not adding up. I guess you meant bottom 6 team from the ICC ranking (instead of 9-12) plus 2 Associate team for qualifier tournament. As of now there are 12 test playing nations and your proposed World Test Cup tournament is for 8 teams.


So basically you are saying that its knockout test tournament from start to finish (Qualifier and then World Cup Test Final). That's where problem arise, In shorter format knockout tournament makes sense because in recent times Pitches and Venues turning out to be same everywhere, Almost. No matter where you are playing.

But that's not the case in the Test format as Pitches and environment plays a huge part. That's why every team plays warm up games before any test series so knockout game strategy not going to work out IMO.

Well.. let me explain in detail.

First there will be a qualifier tournament, in which 8 teams will take part (ICC Test ranking teams 9 to 12, and top 4 Associate sides from the ICC ODI rankings).

So there will be Pakistan, West Indies, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands and Oman playing this qualifying tournament. This tournament will have the same format as the Test World Cup and from this qualifying tournament, the top 2 teams would qualify for the main tournament.

Now let's come to the Test World Cup. There will be 8 teams (Top 6 test sides and two qualifiers).

Let's assume these are the teams: Australia, India, New Zealand, England, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Pakistan and West Indies. Total of 8 teams.

In the first round the 1st ranked team will take on 8th ranked team, 2nd ranked team will take on the 7th, and so on..

So this is the schedule for the first week:

AUS vs WI
NZ vs PAK
IND vs SA
ENG vs SL

Let's say.. Australia, NZ, India and ENG won the test matches and proceeded to the next phase.

Second phase will take place after 5 days of rest. There are 4 teams and the schedule will be like this:

AUS vs IND, NZ vs ENG

Two teams will proceed to the finals. And the finals will be played after 5 days of rest. So the entire tournament is completed within 25 days.

I am not sure about the venue. Given the revenues that can be generated, India seems to be a good option.

You missed the context, it was a pun intended to the response JSRAW gave to Vishnu.Reang. I am not a huge test match enthusiast and i do not want to see a match playing for 5 days and then announce that there is no result because the bowlers were not able to pick the wickets (pun).
Just making sure that you understand what i am trying to say  .

You want to reduce days for draw matches but its not going to help any way right now test is doing very good as we have very few draw test matches its just because of twenty/20 but still we have no window for test world cup as many of us want to watch because this need some good time which is very hard to set still current format is ok but need some more work and settlements from ICC and all boards.

It is impossible to have a Test world cup in a short period of time and the ICC came up with this proposition to make things interesting for the fans, it might be clumsy but to have a world champion every two years will encourage every captain who is competing to be the champion to go for the win rather than slow matches which ends up in a draw.

If we are willing to see more draws then reducing the number of days will help  . When i first watched and learned about test cricket i was thinking 5 days of play and no result is mockery  .

2 wrongs don't make a right..

Ind vs Aus, Eng vs Aus, Ind vs Eng test matches should be restricted to 3-4 days? Good luck with that..

I get that you feel positive about your idea "Test World Cup" and rooting for this, there is nothing wrong with that but you still not giving answers about how many games, venues (Draft) etc.

^^^ How many of the matches are now extending to the 5th day? So it will be more like 3-4 days of play, followed by 3-4 days of rest (if weather permits). Or you can have an additional 3 days as rest. That will slightly extend the tournament to one month instead of 3 weeks. But still, it will be of shorter duration when compared to the ODI World Cup.

I am just saying that a "real" test world cup is hundred times better than this staggered and clumsy WTC.

Kinda aware of real time dynamics. I added example only for your scheme of thoughts " World Test Cup"

So you are saying that 2 days rest after playing a 5 day test match... hmmm you really want to kill fast bowlers,don't you?

Well bhai, speaking of draft.. quoting my previous questions.

But still its very hard to follow this all as I feel Crickets are human and they also need some better environment for better performance and living good life

This idea is simply not practical. Forget about 1 year dedicated to test cricket. You can't even have a two month dedicated period. You need to understand that there are very few fans for the test format right now. And the revenues are very low.


It's possible and I have already posted the draft schedule. We can have a total of 8 teams (6 top ranked teams given direct entry, and the remaining two qualifying). In the first round, these 8 teams will be reduced to 4. In the next stage, two teams will remain and final match will be played on the 3rd week. We have two days designated as rest days in between these matches.

If we wait for the next ten years to revive test cricket with a world cup it will be done and dusted as they are trying to do something like world test championship and day night test to attract the crowd and viewership back in the format.

But 3 week world cup for a 5 day match . Even with a knockout match from the start how can you end the tournament in a month  .

Please no shoot any cricketer I don't like this just sink them its much better idea because this could be more attractive and I am feeling test championship in current format is ok but need few changes because current format is not good and supporting just few countries which is never been good if possible then top 8 must face each other and last four have also matches must with all.

Well in that scenario Test world cup coming after every 10 year so 99% chances are they are going to miss out Test World cup. majority already in their early 30s.


Holy cow.... Entire World Test Tournament in 3 weeks? If you want to kill test players then i suggest shoot them on the head, i would call it mercy instead of 3 week test world cup  

How many games each team playing anyway? How many Venue or host countries? same conditions for all games or different?

According to my calculation If we want any such thing "World test cup" then we need dedicated 1 year for only test format, that's mean no other form of cricket at any cost.

^^^^ We may not miss any of their action, as they will continue to play test matches during the various bilateral series. I am suggesting this test world cup on top of the existing bilateral tours such as the Ashes. We can have 8 teams in the main tournament (the bottom ranked teams from no.7 to no.11 needs to play a qualifier, from which two teams will qualify). In the first week, we can have the quarter-finals, in which 4 teams will proceed to the semi-finals stage. In the second week, we can have the semi-finals and during the third week, we can have the finals. Entire tournament will be over in just three weeks.

Ah well, if that's the case then we might miss couple of things.

Smith's resilience
Kohli's brilliance
Awesome Williamson
Classic Stokes
Pujara's stubbornness
Lone wolf Babar and Shakib
Hottie Cummins
Boom Boom Bumrah.

Well... WTC is definitely something.

For the ODI format, we have the ODI World Cup, and for the T20 format we have the T20 World Cup. There is no equivalent for the test format, and therefore I can perfectly understand your argument. However, I am not comfortable with this staggered tournament, stretching over many many years. Hey... I have another idea. Why can't we have a test world cup, once every 10 years? We can have 12 teams, participating in an all-knockout tournament.