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Quote from: Juggy777 on November 28, 2019, 08:23:35 AM

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53/1 followed by sweet collapse 109/7 , one need special talent to perform like that and Afghanistan is Champion in this regard. some how they forget its test match.

I was looking at the scoreboard and seeing a run out was baffling, they were playing like T20 i guess to loose all the wickets all of a sudden and i did not wage a bet as i was not sure about how West Indies will perform and the spinners Afghanistan had could trouble them if they make a score on the board and that did not happen in this match, the match they played against Bangladesh i was not expecting Afghanistan to win but the batsman score runs and the bowlers finished the job, unless they have some batsman clicking and scoring runs you cannot expect them to win.

I think everyone here is disappointed by Afghanistan’s batting collapse, as all their batman played impatiently and got out quickly. West Indies should be able to wrap up this match tomorrow, unless Afghanistan tail order batman’s decides to offer some resistance. This match only highlights one thing that Afghanistan isn’t ready for test cricket, and they need to focus on building a strong team for this format.

I think Afghanistan's batsmen have an inherent problem of not giving time to themselves after coming in before they go for some shots. This maybe because they are pretty unfamiliar with this taste of Test Cricket. I think we should not judge them atleast until they have played 15-20 test matches as a team. Only then they would understand how playing test cricket against top nation is different from first class and what are the different strategies to win the game. I think it's good to see that they are developing a bit as a cricket playing nation and they just need one big shot to come in top-8

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 28, 2019, 07:57:21 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 28, 2019, 06:31:30 AM

53/1 followed by sweet collapse 109/7 , one need special talent to perform like that and Afghanistan is Champion in this regard. some how they forget its test match.

I was looking at the scoreboard and seeing a run out was baffling, they were playing like T20 i guess to loose all the wickets all of a sudden and i did not wage a bet as i was not sure about how West Indies will perform and the spinners Afghanistan had could trouble them if they make a score on the board and that did not happen in this match, the match they played against Bangladesh i was not expecting Afghanistan to win but the batsman score runs and the bowlers finished the job, unless they have some batsman clicking and scoring runs you cannot expect them to win.

I think everyone here is disappointed by Afghanistan’s batting collapse, as all their batman played impatiently and got out quickly. West Indies should be able to wrap up this match tomorrow, unless Afghanistan tail order batman’s decides to offer some resistance. This match only highlights one thing that Afghanistan isn’t ready for test cricket, and they need to focus on building a strong team for this format.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 28, 2019, 06:31:30 AM

53/1 followed by sweet collapse 109/7 , one need special talent to perform like that and Afghanistan is Champion in this regard. some how they forget its test match.

I was looking at the scoreboard and seeing a run out was baffling, they were playing like T20 i guess to loose all the wickets all of a sudden and i did not wage a bet as i was not sure about how West Indies will perform and the spinners Afghanistan had could trouble them if they make a score on the board and that did not happen in this match, the match they played against Bangladesh i was not expecting Afghanistan to win but the batsman score runs and the bowlers finished the job, unless they have some batsman clicking and scoring runs you cannot expect them to win.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 28, 2019, 06:31:30 AM

Well Afghanistan didn't disappoint me at all, was counting on them...

53/1 followed by sweet collapse 109/7 , one need special talent to perform like that and Afghanistan is Champion in this regard. some how they forget its test match.

It was expected from Afghanistan, but still disappointing. Remember that this is a home match for the Afghans and the West Indies is not fielding a full strength squad. I used to believe that Afghanistan is one of the emerging teams in world cricket. But the results show that they are not yet ready to face the original test nations, at least in the test format.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 28, 2019, 06:15:25 AM

Afghanistan is struggling in this match as they lost their sixth wicket and they just lead by 10 runs and there is no way to come back from this situation as no one is giving Javed Ahmadi any chance for recovery as all the batsman are hurrying to get back to the pavilion and this match is not going to last another session and Cornwall is ruthless as he is already picked 10 wickets in the match.

The Afghanistan has gotten good opening partnership between Ibrahim and javed but after ibrahim out the Afghanistan middle order batting line-up collapse and now they are 109/7 lead by 19 runs maybe they can give more 50 runs.

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Quote from: ene1980 on November 28, 2019, 05:05:39 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on November 28, 2019, 03:10:17 AM

lead is 90 runs. now its Afghanistan's turn to mess things up Grin

Afghanistan still trail by 35 runs

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Afghanistan is struggling in this match as they lost their sixth wicket and they just lead by 10 runs

Well Afghanistan didn't disappoint me at all, was counting on them...

53/1 followed by sweet collapse 109/7 , one need special talent to perform like that and Afghanistan is Champion in this regard. some how they forget its test match.

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Afghanistan is struggling in this match as they lost their sixth wicket and they just lead by 10 runs and there is no way to come back from this situation as no one is giving Javed Ahmadi any chance for recovery as all the batsman are hurrying to get back to the pavilion and this match is not going to last another session and Cornwall is ruthless as he is already picked 10 wickets in the match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on November 28, 2019, 03:10:17 AM

lead is 90 runs. now its Afghanistan's turn to mess things up Grin

Afghanistan still trail by 35 runs and if they are able to score a good runs then they can win the match with the spinners they have and the pitch will help the spinners in the final two days, the only thing i am surprised is that Afghanistan only used four bowlers to ball and they are missing a bowler and not sure who is missing out or whether they filled the team with batsman.

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I was hoping for another inning defeat in the World cricket with in one week but Windies team says NO.

Windies had a good chance to get a big lead and finished the game as quick as possible but they failed to do so. kept losing wickets after good start from one side, even holder gone now. let's see if they can reach 100 runs lead.

256/7 Lead is 73 runs ( Shamarh Brooks is lone warrior)

lead is 90 runs. now its Afghanistan's turn to mess things up Grin

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on November 27, 2019, 08:19:50 AM

I did not notice that a match is going on, was waiting for the next England New Zealand match which is the only entertaining contest in the coming weeks, the rest will be mainly one sided and boring.

Are you really surprised by this? The death bell for cricket was rung when the big three countries (led by N Srinivasan, Giles Clarke and Wally Edwards) came up with the new financial model. The richer nations got even richer and the poor boards lost a large part of their revenue. As a result, talented players from the smaller boards such as South Africa, West Indies, Ireland and Pakistan started dumping their own associations to play for the big three teams (+ New Zealand). And a decade later, we are left with three major cricketing nations and 9 test playing minnows.

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Quote from: ragavancoin on November 27, 2019, 07:54:41 AM

I am taking about Afghanistan vs west indies test match Afghanistan already played their first innings season scored 187 for all out and west indies are playing the first innings (68/2 in 22 over) can west indies give big total for Afghanistan? and it will help to west indies to test match with innings?

I did not notice that a match is going on, was waiting for the next England New Zealand match which is the only entertaining contest in the coming weeks, the rest will be mainly one sided and boring.

By the way who is Rahkeem Cornwall, he took 7 wickets Shocked

, will watch the highlights if it is available. West Indies will built a huge first innings total and then they will put Afghanistan under pressure and will try to finish the match within four days.

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Quote from: ragavancoin on November 27, 2019, 07:54:41 AM

I am taking about Afghanistan vs west indies test match Afghanistan already played their first innings season scored 187 for all out and west indies are playing the first innings (68/2 in 22 over) can west indies give big total for Afghanistan? and it will help to west indies to test match with innings?

Well.. Afghanistan once again proved that they can't compete against the other test sides in any format other than T20. They do have a few T20 stars such as Rashid Khan, Mujib ur Rahman, Zahir Khan, Mohammad Nabi.etc. But these players fail when they play test or ODI format. And it is very surprising, because they have a very competitive domestic 4-day competition.

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I am taking about Afghanistan vs west indies test match Afghanistan already played their first innings season scored 187 for all out and west indies are playing the first innings (68/2 in 22 over) can west indies give big total for Afghanistan? and it will help to west indies to test match with innings?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2019, 08:37:14 PM

What turned the match in favor of New Zealand was the 7th wicket partnership of 261 runs between Bradley-John Watling and Mitchell Santner. That single partnership turned the course of the match in favor of the hosts.

It is a group sport and if two of the eleven members take the match away then it is a win situation and there was no one from England side to perform like that and hence they lost the match, if both the teams performed equally well then we would have seen a draw Wink

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 26, 2019, 08:37:14 PM

I am expecting an even contest during the Hamilton test. New Zealand may be having the home advantage, but without Trent Boult, their bowling looks weak. Boult is a much under-rated bowler, despite performing consistently over the years. No team is overly dependent on a single bowler as NZ is on Trent Boult, which is clear from the fact that he has missed just 6 matches out of the last 70 for New Zealand.

I think you missed the match, Trent Boult just took one wicket in the first innings and he was injured in the second innings and he had no part in the win in the last match, Southee, Neil Wagner and Mitchell Santner was the star performer in the last match with the ball and Watling and Santner performed with the bat.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on November 26, 2019, 11:16:55 AM

Hamilton is good place for pace bowlers but right now New Zealand is in very good form and their bowling and batting are much superior then Visitors so I am not feeling they can do any resistance this is going to be one sided and New Zealand is going to win this series by 2 - 0 very easily.

Well.. I was quite surprised by your post. Even during the first two days of the Mount Maunganui test, England was on top. What turned the match in favor of New Zealand was the 7th wicket partnership of 261 runs between Bradley-John Watling and Mitchell Santner. That single partnership turned the course of the match in favor of the hosts.

I am expecting an even contest during the Hamilton test. New Zealand may be having the home advantage, but without Trent Boult, their bowling looks weak. Boult is a much under-rated bowler, despite performing consistently over the years. No team is overly dependent on a single bowler as NZ is on Trent Boult, which is clear from the fact that he has missed just 6 matches out of the last 70 for New Zealand.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on November 26, 2019, 11:16:55 AM

Hamilton is good place for pace bowlers but right now New Zealand is in very good form and their bowling and batting are much superior then Visitors so I am not feeling they can do any resistance this is going to be one sided and New Zealand is going to win this series by 2 - 0 very easily.

The problem with England is that their main player in Test is Joe Root and he has not performed well in the past few matches and so is the reason you see that England is struggling and on the other hand the New Zealand players are in good form and Jofra Archer their main bowler did not have any impact in the match and he just took one wicket in the entire match and that is not what England was expecting from him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on November 25, 2019, 08:49:57 PM

Quote from: onrise on November 25, 2019, 12:59:56 PM

It’s going to beat bouncy pitch and it would be real test of the team as well if they could adjust to that situation and also results in a draw would be a big thing as per England would be considered . But it should be a good contest overall .

The second test is going to be played at Hamilton, and the track there has historically favored the pace bowlers. But this can be actually good news for England, in case their bowlers such as Jofra Archer and Stuart Broad rise to the occasion. On the other hand, New Zealand will be crippled by the absence of Trent Boult (will be replaced by either Lockie Ferguson or Matt Henry).

Hamilton is good place for pace bowlers but right now New Zealand is in very good form and their bowling and batting are much superior then Visitors so I am not feeling they can do any resistance this is going to be one sided and New Zealand is going to win this series by 2 - 0 very easily.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on November 26, 2019, 09:51:14 AM

Was he talking about Sreesanth? Because I remember Gavaskar badmouthing him very regularly. One thing that I don't like about Gavaskar is that he tends to be very biased towards players from Maharashtra. For him, players such as Ajinkya Rahane and Kedar Jadhav are legendary, but at the same time Ravindra Jadeja and Cheteshwar Pujara are very average.

Gavaskar used to be very vocal when the players show aggressive behavior in the pitch as the words he used to say is that it will destroy the spirit of the game and when he was playing he never cared about that as he punched and threw bat at players when he disapproves with umpire decision and the members who knew that history will laugh at all these comments, it is natural that he will hype and support players from Maharashtra. I still remember these people were mocking Jadeja for the number of triple centuries he scored in domestic matches when he was making his debut as if he got into the team because of luck.

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^^ Majority of Indian commentators go gaga for Mumbai based cricketer so its understandable and i am not sure if your assumption are correct when you say he consider them average (Jadeja and Pujara) . he really likes Puji as far as test cricket is concern and if my intuition are right then he has crush on Jadeja Grin

with big hard on whatever he does ( fielding, bowling, Batting - his sword celebration- ) I have seen countless times where he takes his side.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on November 26, 2019, 09:06:42 AM

There are some below average players that are sitting in the commentary booth and give out opinions and while they were playing they were not even that good and they like to critic, i have heard Gavaskar giving his opinion when some players show some aggressiveness in the playing field and during his playing days Gavaskar got involved in many fights with players and umpires and even stopped matches and those people come out and criticize, Manjrekar is not even an entertaining commentator and yet he is making a ton of money doing this gig.

Was he talking about Sreesanth? Because I remember Gavaskar badmouthing him very regularly. One thing that I don't like about Gavaskar is that he tends to be very biased towards players from Maharashtra. For him, players such as Ajinkya Rahane and Kedar Jadhav are legendary, but at the same time Ravindra Jadeja and Cheteshwar Pujara are very average.

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