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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2022, 10:52:09 PM

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Yes, Bangladesh have made the mistake by changing the pitch for spinners. It is common with every host team making the pitch according to their betterment. Other than Kohli and Siraj everyone have managed to score two digit runs which is really good and a combined contribution. By the third day first session Bangladesh could end the innings.

LOL.. everyone except Kohli and Siraj. That is the point. Now we are comparing Kohli's batting skills with those from Siraj. Pathetic downslide for a cricketer who held legendary status just 2-3 years ago. And the joke is that Kohli still refuses to acknowledge that he is out of form. When the BCCI officials pointed out that he need to take a break and concentrate on domestic matches, he got angry and ridiculed them. But with every passing month, Kohli is becoming a burden to the Indian team and holding places away from hardworking younger players.

Kohli is suited for test cricket and if he gets an opportunity to bat without any pressure then he will go on till he gets a century. At the moment India is in a very comfortable position and if he gets an opportunity to bat today you might see him playing his original game. One thing I am sure and many here would agree that he is not suitable for T20 format. There are other and better batters who can easily replace him in this format.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 16, 2022, 01:10:32 AM

Burden? Wrong. This is the same man who rescued the Indian team on multiple occasions during the recent T-20 World Cup. He scored a century alongside Kishan even more recently in their recent ODI against Bangladesh.

Despite his drop in form, his batting average is still great in tests while it's spectacular in ODIs and T-20s. Facts!

Well... let's see how he performs in the second test. As of now, it looks as if India will win this test match by at least 200-300 runs. Instead of asking Bangladesh to follow on, they decided to bat again. But surprisingly Shubman Gill and KL Rahul have started quite slowly. The lead is now 290. India might declare once they get to 400-450. And given the spin-friendly conditions at Chattogram, I don't think that Bangladesh will be able to chase this huge target. Virat Kohli will come in at no.4, and that is if he gets a chance to bat.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2022, 10:52:09 PM

LOL.. everyone except Kohli and Siraj. That is the point. Now we are comparing Kohli's batting skills with those from Siraj. Pathetic downslide for a cricketer who held legendary status just 2-3 years ago. And the joke is that Kohli still refuses to acknowledge that he is out of form. When the BCCI officials pointed out that he need to take a break and concentrate on domestic matches, he got angry and ridiculed them. But with every passing month, Kohli is becoming a burden to the Indian team and holding places away from hardworking younger players.

Burden? Wrong. This is the same man who rescued the Indian team on multiple occasions during the recent T-20 World Cup. He scored a century alongside Kishan even more recently in their recent ODI against Bangladesh.

Despite his drop in form, his batting average is still great in tests while it's spectacular in ODIs and T-20s. Facts!

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India decided to bat again despite having a large lead. I cannot understand why captains these days do not take follow-ons. Defeating Bangladesh in an embarrassing manner was an excellent opportunity. There is no way Bangladesh can win on a turning pitch. India must win this game. However, you never know. It is due to their condition.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on December 15, 2022, 07:53:22 PM

Yes, Bangladesh have made the mistake by changing the pitch for spinners. It is common with every host team making the pitch according to their betterment. Other than Kohli and Siraj everyone have managed to score two digit runs which is really good and a combined contribution. By the third day first session Bangladesh could end the innings.

LOL.. everyone except Kohli and Siraj. That is the point. Now we are comparing Kohli's batting skills with those from Siraj. Pathetic downslide for a cricketer who held legendary status just 2-3 years ago. And the joke is that Kohli still refuses to acknowledge that he is out of form. When the BCCI officials pointed out that he need to take a break and concentrate on domestic matches, he got angry and ridiculed them. But with every passing month, Kohli is becoming a burden to the Indian team and holding places away from hardworking younger players.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 15, 2022, 04:20:43 PM

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Well.. it is possible. Ravichandran Ashwin is next to come and he do have a very good batting record in subcontinental tracks. But the problem for India is that after Ashwin it is down to the tail. The three other players to come doesn't have any batting capabilities (Kuldeep Yadav, Umesh Yadav and Mohammed Siraj). So I don't know how much India will be able to add to their existing score of 278/6. They may get bundled out for less than 300, or they may make a total of more than 400. Either way, Bangladesh will be on backfoot.

I was expecting Shreyas Iyer to stay much longer in the crease but either way Ravichandran Ashwin and Kuldeep Yadav was able to take that role and build a great partnership that would eventually take the total over to 404 and with Bangladesh struggling at 133 runs for the loss of 8 wickets and with plenty of time left in the match this is a match where India could not loose with the situation they are in, may be Bangladesh fell for their own trap by making a spinning track.

Yes, Bangladesh have made the mistake by changing the pitch for spinners. It is common with every host team making the pitch according to their betterment. Other than Kohli and Siraj everyone have managed to score two digit runs which is really good and a combined contribution. By the third day first session Bangladesh could end the innings.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 14, 2022, 11:47:22 PM

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Well.. it is possible. Ravichandran Ashwin is next to come and he do have a very good batting record in subcontinental tracks. But the problem for India is that after Ashwin it is down to the tail. The three other players to come doesn't have any batting capabilities (Kuldeep Yadav, Umesh Yadav and Mohammed Siraj). So I don't know how much India will be able to add to their existing score of 278/6. They may get bundled out for less than 300, or they may make a total of more than 400. Either way, Bangladesh will be on backfoot.

I was expecting Shreyas Iyer to stay much longer in the crease but either way Ravichandran Ashwin and Kuldeep Yadav was able to take that role and build a great partnership that would eventually take the total over to 404 and with Bangladesh struggling at 133 runs for the loss of 8 wickets and with plenty of time left in the match this is a match where India could not loose with the situation they are in, may be Bangladesh fell for their own trap by making a spinning track.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on December 15, 2022, 02:56:51 PM

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It is very interesting to see how Bangladesh has not improved in the one format which is the oldest in cricket. And Bangladesh once did better in test cricket at least in Bangladesh because players like Mushfiqur Rahim, Shakib Al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah were in their prime.

At that time, even though Bangladesh was not winning the test series back-to-back, they were at least bringing in respectable results. However, this generation of Bangladesh cricketers is not in their prime anymore. The new players are just not setting themselves up to their standards or even close to it.

I think we can see that from the relatively new players that played in this match. Nazmul Hossain Shanto was again a failure. I really do not understand how he is still on the team. And Yasir Ali is another failure, who fails to contribute to the team in any format. At the end of day two, Bangladesh was 133/8 and they are still 271 runs behind. From this point on India should be able to win the Test match easily.

After winning the first two ODIs, Bangladesh lost the track and lost the last ODI with a huge margin. This test is almost over for Bangladesh unless India do some big blunder in the game. On stumps day 2, Bangladesh still trail by 271 runs and only 2 wikcets left. There is no one in Bangladeshi batting lineup that took responsibility. Bangladesh lost 8 wickets for just 133 runs.
Bangladesh need to be consistent in there performance otherwise they will continue losing games like that.

Today in thier first test match Bangladesh was extremely poor in batting none of the players made any runs and they lost 8 wickets on 133 runs , 271 runs trail which is obviously not possible for them to compete as their batting is a disaster.
Why cricket teams are performing like this in the oldest format of cricket? Is this the increasing popularity of t20 format or thier lack of understanding related to test cricket.

Obviously yes, Today no team focuses to become best in test except the ones that are already good, Especially in Test, I see only England, Australia, South Africa, India & New Zealand, only the top 5 which have actually played well in Test have actually shown a competition. Even Pakistan isn't in the list, except South Africa in Pakistan they haven't won a series against these top 5 in a lot many years now. I feel all this is just because of less viewership and interest amongst countries for test. Obviously for smaller boards like SL/ Bangladesh money is the most important thing and which T20 can give you the most so it's obvious that their teams also focus on that only.

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Quote from: WatChe on December 15, 2022, 02:11:13 PM

Quote from: Iranus on December 15, 2022, 02:02:37 PM

It is very interesting to see how Bangladesh has not improved in the one format which is the oldest in cricket. And Bangladesh once did better in test cricket at least in Bangladesh because players like Mushfiqur Rahim, Shakib Al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah were in their prime.

At that time, even though Bangladesh was not winning the test series back-to-back, they were at least bringing in respectable results. However, this generation of Bangladesh cricketers is not in their prime anymore. The new players are just not setting themselves up to their standards or even close to it.

I think we can see that from the relatively new players that played in this match. Nazmul Hossain Shanto was again a failure. I really do not understand how he is still on the team. And Yasir Ali is another failure, who fails to contribute to the team in any format. At the end of day two, Bangladesh was 133/8 and they are still 271 runs behind. From this point on India should be able to win the Test match easily.

After winning the first two ODIs, Bangladesh lost the track and lost the last ODI with a huge margin. This test is almost over for Bangladesh unless India do some big blunder in the game. On stumps day 2, Bangladesh still trail by 271 runs and only 2 wikcets left. There is no one in Bangladeshi batting lineup that took responsibility. Bangladesh lost 8 wickets for just 133 runs.
Bangladesh need to be consistent in there performance otherwise they will continue losing games like that.

Today in thier first test match Bangladesh was extremely poor in batting none of the players made any runs and they lost 8 wickets on 133 runs , 271 runs trail which is obviously not possible for them to compete as their batting is a disaster.
Why cricket teams are performing like this in the oldest format of cricket? Is this the increasing popularity of t20 format or thier lack of understanding related to test cricket.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 15, 2022, 02:02:37 PM

It is very interesting to see how Bangladesh has not improved in the one format which is the oldest in cricket. And Bangladesh once did better in test cricket at least in Bangladesh because players like Mushfiqur Rahim, Shakib Al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah were in their prime.

At that time, even though Bangladesh was not winning the test series back-to-back, they were at least bringing in respectable results. However, this generation of Bangladesh cricketers is not in their prime anymore. The new players are just not setting themselves up to their standards or even close to it.

I think we can see that from the relatively new players that played in this match. Nazmul Hossain Shanto was again a failure. I really do not understand how he is still on the team. And Yasir Ali is another failure, who fails to contribute to the team in any format. At the end of day two, Bangladesh was 133/8 and they are still 271 runs behind. From this point on India should be able to win the Test match easily.

After winning the first two ODIs, Bangladesh lost the track and lost the last ODI with a huge margin. This test is almost over for Bangladesh unless India do some big blunder in the game. On stumps day 2, Bangladesh still trail by 271 runs and only 2 wikcets left. There is no one in Bangladeshi batting lineup that took responsibility. Bangladesh lost 8 wickets for just 133 runs.
Bangladesh need to be consistent in there performance otherwise they will continue losing games like that.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 15, 2022, 07:25:13 AM

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Bangladesh going from bad to worst. Niether their batters are able to play the Indian pace bowlers nor the spinners. Almost all their top batters are out. If the tail enders again perform like they did in the ODIs then Bangladesh management should change their batting position to middle order. Match is completely being controlled by the Indian team. Zero excitement left in this match for now.

LOL.. and all this after having India at 48/3. Bangladesh are now 97/5 and they need another hundred or so runs just to avoid follow on. And it is the second string Indian bowlers who took all the wickets till now. Mohammed Siraj has three wickets to his name, and Umesh Yadav/Kuldeep Yadav have one each. No one in the Bangladesh lineup could manage a score of above 30. Highest score as of now is 24 from Litton Kumer Das. Mushfiqur Rahim and Nurul Hasan are at the crease now, with Mehidy Hasan Miraz to come next.

@Sithara007 this performance by Bangladesh once again proves that Bangladesh are yet to improve in this format, and if they yet fail to improve in this match then they’ll surely suffer an heavy defeat. Also lots of credit goes to Kuldeep what an performance by him, and I personally feel that he’ll get more wickets if Bangladesh manage to stretch it to a second innings.

It is very interesting to see how Bangladesh has not improved in the one format which is the oldest in cricket. And Bangladesh once did better in test cricket at least in Bangladesh because players like Mushfiqur Rahim, Shakib Al Hasan, Tamim Iqbal, Mahmudullah were in their prime.

At that time, even though Bangladesh was not winning the test series back-to-back, they were at least bringing in respectable results. However, this generation of Bangladesh cricketers is not in their prime anymore. The new players are just not setting themselves up to their standards or even close to it.

I think we can see that from the relatively new players that played in this match. Nazmul Hossain Shanto was again a failure. I really do not understand how he is still on the team. And Yasir Ali is another failure, who fails to contribute to the team in any format. At the end of day two, Bangladesh was 133/8 and they are still 271 runs behind. From this point on India should be able to win the Test match easily.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on December 15, 2022, 12:34:51 PM

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If you have a pitch that turns sharply in the first day then it is going to be a challenge for everyone later on in the match especially after the third day. If India could add another 100 runs, then it would be a decent first innings score and with Shreyas Iyer still in the crease, it is possible to add some runs on the board in the morning session and with India having spinners like Ravichandran Ashwin, Kuldeep Yadav and Axar Patel it is going to be a challenge for the Bangladesh batsman.

India has added more than 100 runs today and got all out in 404 runs. Which is enough to win against Bangladesh in that pitch. Kuldeep Yadav and Mohammed Siraj have destroyed the batting lineup of Bangladesh. They have collected 133 runs only by losing 8 wickets. Bangladesh has no chance in this match now. The betting odds (1.03× now) is completely in favour of India.

When you see 1.03 odds in the favor of odds, you know that India will win for sure that's why gambling houses give you such odds but these odds are not at all attractive to bet on. If anyone wanted to bet on India, they should have bet before the start of this match.

There were no batsmen from Bangladesh who look to stay at the crease and give any sort of resistance to the Indian bowlers. Remember, it is the same team that beat India in the one-day series but they look completely ordinary in this test match.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 14, 2022, 03:10:36 PM

If you have a pitch that turns sharply in the first day then it is going to be a challenge for everyone later on in the match especially after the third day. If India could add another 100 runs, then it would be a decent first innings score and with Shreyas Iyer still in the crease, it is possible to add some runs on the board in the morning session and with India having spinners like Ravichandran Ashwin, Kuldeep Yadav and Axar Patel it is going to be a challenge for the Bangladesh batsman.

India has added more than 100 runs today and got all out in 404 runs. Which is enough to win against Bangladesh in that pitch. Kuldeep Yadav and Mohammed Siraj have destroyed the batting lineup of Bangladesh. They have collected 133 runs only by losing 8 wickets. Bangladesh has no chance in this match now. The betting odds (1.03× now) is completely in favour of India.

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Bangladesh keep performing like crap in the test format despite improving in the other formats these days. Their over-dependence on Rahim and Das in tests is clearly their biggest weakpoint which they haven't managed to rectify.

India have pretty much won this match at this point and I am pretty confident that they will whitewash them in the test series at the rate at which they're going.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 15, 2022, 05:59:29 AM

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Bangladesh going from bad to worst. Niether their batters are able to play the Indian pace bowlers nor the spinners. Almost all their top batters are out. If the tail enders again perform like they did in the ODIs then Bangladesh management should change their batting position to middle order. Match is completely being controlled by the Indian team. Zero excitement left in this match for now.

LOL.. and all this after having India at 48/3. Bangladesh are now 97/5 and they need another hundred or so runs just to avoid follow on. And it is the second string Indian bowlers who took all the wickets till now. Mohammed Siraj has three wickets to his name, and Umesh Yadav/Kuldeep Yadav have one each. No one in the Bangladesh lineup could manage a score of above 30. Highest score as of now is 24 from Litton Kumer Das. Mushfiqur Rahim and Nurul Hasan are at the crease now, with Mehidy Hasan Miraz to come next.

Bangladesh are not doing very well against India in their first Test match. They have considerable failure to perform well. There are some batsmen in the Bangladesh team, I think the board selectors have put them in the team unnecessarily. I think India will win this series.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 15, 2022, 07:25:13 AM

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Also lots of credit goes to Kuldeep what an performance by him, and I personally feel that he’ll get more wickets if Bangladesh manage to stretch it to a second innings.

As well, Kuldeep was omitted from the Asia Cup team and the WC T20I team. However, he made his mark after he returned to the playing XI by picking up four wickets. Finger spinners are never as effective as wrist spinners. Bangladesh's batting was very poor though. It's really disappointing to watch their batting in test formats. With Kuldeep Yadav leading the charge, India bowled well. Tomorrow, the Indians should be able to cope with the tailenders for a short period of time.

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Bangladesh going from bad to worst. Niether their batters are able to play the Indian pace bowlers nor the spinners. Almost all their top batters are out. If the tail enders again perform like they did in the ODIs then Bangladesh management should change their batting position to middle order. Match is completely being controlled by the Indian team. Zero excitement left in this match for now.

LOL.. and all this after having India at 48/3. Bangladesh are now 97/5 and they need another hundred or so runs just to avoid follow on. And it is the second string Indian bowlers who took all the wickets till now. Mohammed Siraj has three wickets to his name, and Umesh Yadav/Kuldeep Yadav have one each. No one in the Bangladesh lineup could manage a score of above 30. Highest score as of now is 24 from Litton Kumer Das. Mushfiqur Rahim and Nurul Hasan are at the crease now, with Mehidy Hasan Miraz to come next.

@Sithara007 this performance by Bangladesh once again proves that Bangladesh are yet to improve in this format, and if they yet fail to improve in this match then they’ll surely suffer an heavy defeat. Also lots of credit goes to Kuldeep what an performance by him, and I personally feel that he’ll get more wickets if Bangladesh manage to stretch it to a second innings.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 15, 2022, 05:51:22 AM

Bangladesh going from bad to worst. Niether their batters are able to play the Indian pace bowlers nor the spinners. Almost all their top batters are out. If the tail enders again perform like they did in the ODIs then Bangladesh management should change their batting position to middle order. Match is completely being controlled by the Indian team. Zero excitement left in this match for now.

LOL.. and all this after having India at 48/3. Bangladesh are now 97/5 and they need another hundred or so runs just to avoid follow on. And it is the second string Indian bowlers who took all the wickets till now. Mohammed Siraj has three wickets to his name, and Umesh Yadav/Kuldeep Yadav have one each. No one in the Bangladesh lineup could manage a score of above 30. Highest score as of now is 24 from Litton Kumer Das. Mushfiqur Rahim and Nurul Hasan are at the crease now, with Mehidy Hasan Miraz to come next.

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Bangladesh going from bad to worst. Niether their batters are able to play the Indian pace bowlers nor the spinners. Almost all their top batters are out. If the tail enders again perform like they did in the ODIs then Bangladesh management should change their batting position to middle order. Match is completely being controlled by the Indian team. Zero excitement left in this match for now.

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Quote from: BobK71 on December 15, 2022, 05:22:13 AM

Many did not expect such a good performance from the Indian batsmen. Where we might have thought that the Indian batsmen scored 300 plus but instead they managed to score 404 runs. Which is really appreciable particularly Ashwin and Kuldeep Yadav performacne reached the match in reliable position. Bangladesh's batting site was thought to be very weak from the beginning. The same situation is seen in the match. Bangladesh team managed to score 60 runs by losing 4 wickets in the 3rd Session. Hope we can get some more wickets today.

Bangladesh lost by 5 wickets to take 75 runs so it may not be possible for them to cross the target of 404 runs with the remaining five wickets. India played very well in this regard. But Bangladesh is not able to play as well as them. Bangladesh can beat India in the ODI match at their own ground, but they may not be able to handle a team like India in the Test match. Because India team has very good bowlers and batsmen too

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