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Quote from: Maidak on April 21, 2022, 09:31:11 AM

Actually, there are some reasons why I think cricket is losing a certain amount of its popularity and I think this article sums it up really well.

Cricket Fading Away? Truth Behind The Popular Game

But, obviously, I am not saying that cricket has lost almost 20% of its popularity or anything like that. I certainly think that cricket is not as enjoyable to watch as it was before.
And another thing is there is only so much competition in cricket because of having not enough teams to compete with each other.

Many thanks for posting link to that excellent article. I agree with most of the points given by them. And your point is valid as well. There are just 7-8 regular teams in cricket and all these bilateral tours are becoming repetitive and boring. And in world cup, they have reduced the number of teams from 16 to 10, making it even more boring. And even the surviving teams are transforming from native-dominated to foreign-dominated. Cricket has lost its charm. It has become more of a business than sport.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 20, 2022, 10:04:02 AM

Suggestions are coming for Kohli from everywhere due to his poor run of form. This time piece of advice coming from former head coach.
Everyone raising eyebrows because he's not scoring any century, almost 100 matches across all format (including IPL), having said that despite 2-3 poor years his numbers still look amazing. Tells you lot about his high standards.
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Seriously that's a worthy advice of taking break. His stats may be outstanding but we have to admit that he is out of form for quite a while. Sometimes taking a break and returning back helps you alot. I remember inzamam ul haq had a bad patch in 2003, he was given a break and he came back much stronger for rest of his career.

@JSRAW I feel that everyone’s out there to get Kohli and the way BCCI striped him of the captaincy isn’t helping either, hence a break may not be a bad idea for him. However having followed his career so far I feel that he likes to play under these circumstances and prove his doubters wrong, but for some reason this time he’s unable to do so hence I too agree that he should take a break and come back stronger.

^ I also agree that it will be better for him if he takes a break right now. He is not performing up to his standards and obviously, a lot of things are going on in his head right now.

So a break will be great for him to clear his mind and he will also be able to start fresh. I believe he has a lot to give to the Indian cricket team. So if he takes a break and then comes back he will perform a lot better or at least better than he is doing right now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2022, 09:01:20 PM

Quote from: Maidak on April 20, 2022, 10:08:21 AM

I am quite sure that cricket has lost a little of its popularity even though it is not very much noticeable. And the way ICC is going on about things I am sure that the situation is not going to improve. And you made a very good point about cricket being run by businessmen because they are only interested in money. They are not at all interested in expanding the game.

Not going to agree with the first part. At least here in India, the IPL remains vastly more popular when compared to the other leagues such as the ISL and pro-Kabaddi league. As such, I have not seen any dip in popularity for cricket in India. The only thing I have noticed is that the younger generations are getting addicted to T20 format, and they almost never watch the test matches. And also, outside cricket activity has reduced to a bare minimum, as open spaces are getting sparse and the people are spending more and more time on their mobiles.

Actually, there are some reasons why I think cricket is losing a certain amount of its popularity and I think this article sums it up really well.

Cricket Fading Away? Truth Behind The Popular Game

But, obviously, I am not saying that cricket has lost almost 20% of its popularity or anything like that. I certainly think that cricket is not as enjoyable to watch as it was before.
And another thing is there is only so much competition in cricket because of having not enough teams to compete with each other.

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I feel that everyone’s out there to get Kohli and the way BCCI striped him of the captaincy isn’t helping either, hence a break may not be a bad idea for him. However having followed his career so far I feel that he likes to play under these circumstances and prove his doubters wrong, but for some reason this time he’s unable to do so hence I too agree that he should take a break and come back stronger.

I think everyone should understand that Cricket being popular only in India is not the same as cricket is popular as a game. yes, you can obviously say that cricket is still the most popular sport in India and it has not lost popularity here. But I think if we can find the right statistics we will see that ultimately cricket has lost popularity.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2022, 09:01:20 PM

Not going to agree with the first part. At least here in India, the IPL remains vastly more popular when compared to the other leagues such as the ISL and pro-Kabaddi league. As such, I have not seen any dip in popularity for cricket in India. The only thing I have noticed is that the younger generations are getting addicted to T20 format, and they almost never watch the test matches. And also, outside cricket activity has reduced to a bare minimum, as open spaces are getting sparse and the people are spending more and more time on their mobiles.

Indians are crazy for three things Cricket, cinema and Bhagvan. I remember before the advent of T20I, stadiums were filled even in test matches. Its natural that people will love T20 more then ODI or test. Still craze of cricket is at its peak in India.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 20, 2022, 09:01:20 PM

Quote from: Maidak on April 20, 2022, 10:08:21 AM

I am quite sure that cricket has lost a little of its popularity even though it is not very much noticeable. And the way ICC is going on about things I am sure that the situation is not going to improve. And you made a very good point about cricket being run by businessmen because they are only interested in money. They are not at all interested in expanding the game.

Not going to agree with the first part. At least here in India, the IPL remains vastly more popular when compared to the other leagues such as the ISL and pro-Kabaddi league. As such, I have not seen any dip in popularity for cricket in India. The only thing I have noticed is that the younger generations are getting addicted to T20 format, and they almost never watch the test matches. And also, outside cricket activity has reduced to a bare minimum, as open spaces are getting sparse and the people are spending more and more time on their mobiles.

I agree with Sithara007 cricket has not lost its popularity in India. To date India has the highest viewership of cricket. Indian youth are obsessed with the T20 format and not the test format. Globally too T20 is the most popular format of cricket.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on April 21, 2022, 12:45:01 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on April 20, 2022, 10:04:02 AM

Suggestions are coming for Kohli from everywhere due to his poor run of form. This time piece of advice coming from former head coach.

Everyone raising eyebrows because he's not scoring any century, almost 100 matches across all format (including IPL), having said that despite 2-3 poor years his numbers still look amazing. Tells you lot about his high standards.

https://i.imgur.com/rLclG4E.jpg
]https://i.imgur.com/OtWrVu6.jpg

Seriously that's a worthy advice of taking break. His stats may be outstanding but we have to admit that he is out of form for quite a while. Sometimes taking a break and returning back helps you alot. I remember inzamam ul haq had a bad patch in 2003, he was given a break and he came back much stronger for rest of his career.

@JSRAW I feel that everyone’s out there to get Kohli and the way BCCI striped him of the captaincy isn’t helping either, hence a break may not be a bad idea for him. However having followed his career so far I feel that he likes to play under these circumstances and prove his doubters wrong, but for some reason this time he’s unable to do so hence I too agree that he should take a break and come back stronger.

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Quote from: JSRAW on April 20, 2022, 10:04:02 AM

Suggestions are coming for Kohli from everywhere due to his poor run of form. This time piece of advice coming from former head coach.

Everyone raising eyebrows because he's not scoring any century, almost 100 matches across all format (including IPL), having said that despite 2-3 poor years his numbers still look amazing. Tells you lot about his high standards.

https://i.imgur.com/rLclG4E.jpg
]https://i.imgur.com/OtWrVu6.jpg

Seriously that's a worthy advice of taking break. His stats may be outstanding but we have to admit that he is out of form for quite a while. Sometimes taking a break and returning back helps you alot. I remember inzamam ul haq had a bad patch in 2003, he was given a break and he came back much stronger for rest of his career.

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Quote from: Maidak on April 20, 2022, 10:08:21 AM

I am quite sure that cricket has lost a little of its popularity even though it is not very much noticeable. And the way ICC is going on about things I am sure that the situation is not going to improve. And you made a very good point about cricket being run by businessmen because they are only interested in money. They are not at all interested in expanding the game.

Not going to agree with the first part. At least here in India, the IPL remains vastly more popular when compared to the other leagues such as the ISL and pro-Kabaddi league. As such, I have not seen any dip in popularity for cricket in India. The only thing I have noticed is that the younger generations are getting addicted to T20 format, and they almost never watch the test matches. And also, outside cricket activity has reduced to a bare minimum, as open spaces are getting sparse and the people are spending more and more time on their mobiles.

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Quote from: wiss19 on April 19, 2022, 03:04:10 PM

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Just because of negative tactics and poor management of ICC time is already run out for test cricket popularity but now with two new short formats we can hope this will do some better in near future but against it's time for some strong management and better tactics which are very important for popularity of this game around the globe.
Currently, we have only 12 test playing nations and from these only eight are in good condition and others are struggling and can collapse any time because they have no infrastructure and finances for managing this even Afghanistan is not able to play test at home, and it's not possible for nearly one more decade which is the worst case for them Zimbabwe is already down and out with Bangladesh, Ireland, Sri Lanka and West Indies are also down in quality which is big problem but no one want to do any positive thing for these countries development which mean we are near dead point for test format.

I see a lot of boards just concentrating on the shorter formats of cricket right now because honestly test cricket has lost its popularity and the increasing popularity of the shorter formats of cricket is certainly not helping that. If we talk about your country like Bangladesh, I think we can see that even though they are not good at all in test cricket they are not even making an effort to get better because they are concentrating more on the shorter formats. Test cricket obviously does not generate good revenues and when the revenues are not going to be good obviously the interest will also not be higher.

Quote from: Sithara007 on April 19, 2022, 10:46:56 PM

I am not sure whether cricket has lost any of its popularity (at least in the traditional areas). But for sure, cricket has failed to expand to new markets, similar to what other sports such as Rugby and field hockey has managed to. One big reason may be due to the fact that the ICC is being run by businessmen with hardly any connection to cricket, while the other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIH and FIBA are being managed by former players from these sports. Businessmen think only about short term benefits and not about the popularity of the sport.

I am quite sure that cricket has lost a little of its popularity even though it is not very much noticeable. And the way ICC is going on about things I am sure that the situation is not going to improve. And you made a very good point about cricket being run by businessmen because they are only interested in money. They are not at all interested in expanding the game.

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Suggestions are coming for Kohli from everywhere due to his poor run of form. This time piece of advice coming from former head coach.

Everyone raising eyebrows because he's not scoring any century, almost 100 matches across all format (including IPL), having said that despite 2-3 poor years his numbers still look amazing. Tells you lot about his high standards.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 19, 2022, 10:46:56 PM

I am not sure whether cricket has lost any of its popularity (at least in the traditional areas). But for sure, cricket has failed to expand to new markets, similar to what other sports such as Rugby and field hockey has managed to. One big reason may be due to the fact that the ICC is being run by businessmen with hardly any connection to cricket, while the other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIH and FIBA are being managed by former players from these sports. Businessmen think only about short term benefits and not about the popularity of the sport.

In Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka Cricket is still the most popular game, since this area accommodate huge population of the world that's why cricket is among top 5 popular games. Apart from that there is very little popularity of cricket in rest of the world. ICC is run nor by business men neither by former players rather its run by big 3.

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Quote from: Maidak on April 19, 2022, 11:37:19 AM

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In my opinion, cricket has actually lost a lot of popularity in recent times and I know that we have been through some hard times recently but the way ICC is going on about things I don't think the situation is going to improve.

I am not sure whether cricket has lost any of its popularity (at least in the traditional areas). But for sure, cricket has failed to expand to new markets, similar to what other sports such as Rugby and field hockey has managed to. One big reason may be due to the fact that the ICC is being run by businessmen with hardly any connection to cricket, while the other sports bodies such as the FIFA, FIH and FIBA are being managed by former players from these sports. Businessmen think only about short term benefits and not about the popularity of the sport.

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Quote from: Maidak on April 19, 2022, 11:37:19 AM

It is actually understandable that no one in their right mind wants to give the power to someone else. But that is really detrimental to cricket itself and if that does not change I think cricket is not going to be popular in the whole world.

In my opinion, cricket has actually lost a lot of popularity in recent times and I know that we have been through some hard times recently but the way ICC is going on about things I don't think the situation is going to improve.

Just because of negative tactics and poor management of ICC time is already run out for test cricket popularity but now with two new short formats we can hope this will do some better in near future but against it's time for some strong management and better tactics which are very important for popularity of this game around the globe.

Currently, we have only 12 test playing nations and from these only eight are in good condition and others are struggling and can collapse any time because they have no infrastructure and finances for managing this even Afghanistan is not able to play test at home, and it's not possible for nearly one more decade which is the worst case for them Zimbabwe is already down and out with Bangladesh, Ireland, Sri Lanka and West Indies are also down in quality which is big problem but no one want to do any positive thing for these countries development which mean we are near dead point for test format.

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Quote from: jaberwock on April 18, 2022, 02:46:02 PM

Sometime back there was good and very long talk about this, but sadly it's all ended without any positive note because ICC is hijacked by few boards, and they don't want to give power to other small boards which is big issue sometime back there was a solution that visitors will have choice to bat first or ball, but this was also rejected then second was they need to prepare pitches which could be supportive for both bowling and batting, but sadly there were also few issues which bring hurdles, and we have no positive note about this as well.

ICC needs to be very stick and fair council for all members, but sadly it never happens which is a big problem for better and positive results from this game specially test format which need some good changes if they want alive this for some more decades. Recently we have six test matches and just two with results and four ended in draw which is not good for this format.

It is actually understandable that no one in their right mind wants to give the power to someone else. But that is really detrimental to cricket itself and if that does not change I think cricket is not going to be popular in the whole world.

In my opinion, cricket has actually lost a lot of popularity in recent times and I know that we have been through some hard times recently but the way ICC is going on about things I don't think the situation is going to improve.

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Quote from: Maidak on April 18, 2022, 01:10:00 PM

The team playing in home conditions are always going to have some advantage and they are obviously going to repair the cricket pitch so that they find it easier with their own playstyle.

Is it unfair to the visiting team? Yes, of course.

But, I think it is just the nature of the competition. Every team needs to get familiar with the conditions and play accordingly. We have to remember test cricket is not finished in one day. So, there are plenty of opportunities for the visiting team to find out how to play and what is the best plan of attack.

Sometime back there was good and very long talk about this, but sadly it's all ended without any positive note because ICC is hijacked by few boards, and they don't want to give power to other small boards which is big issue sometime back there was a solution that visitors will have choice to bat first or ball, but this was also rejected then second was they need to prepare pitches which could be supportive for both bowling and batting, but sadly there were also few issues which bring hurdles, and we have no positive note about this as well.

ICC needs to be very stick and fair council for all members, but sadly it never happens which is a big problem for better and positive results from this game specially test format which need some good changes if they want alive this for some more decades. Recently we have six test matches and just two with results and four ended in draw which is not good for this format.

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Stuart Broad seems front runner but i guess he's 35-ish already so imo it would be short term gig for him. This won't be a bad choice for short term if he's captaining the team for full home season because he can get into the playing XI without any fuss. At the same time management can groom some one else for future, may be Burns, Ben Foakes? I still don't understand why Broad was dropped from the team in the first place.

Most of the time i really do not understand their rotation policy and how they pick the players to rest, i understand that it helps prolong their career but they need to start grooming young players. Stuart Broad should be the captain now and once Ben Stokes is fit enough to lead the country i am sure he will take over because majority of the former captains wants to see Ben Stokes as the captain.

Bunch of management folks & Co pushed this idea of rotation policy in English cricket, test cricket mainly. It was work in progress concept and they wanted to try it out because of their tight schedule ( they play tons of test matches) so at that time it kinda made sense and was a brave decision but boy o boy!! it failed royally and as result ECB sacked literally everyone, even skipper left.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on April 17, 2022, 02:49:07 PM

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Agree with this statement, but we can't do anything with this because every team is having this home advantage, and they can enjoy with this all about West Indies once they were best team in cricket world, but recently they are completely crap even now they have nothing good squads for short formats which were having some advantage for them, but recently they lost this all because they completely fail to develop their domestic set up on latest technology and technique's which is now having serious problems for them and their selection system is also not fair because it's seven countries unit and every country want to use his own quota instead of having players on merit.

For few other countries they are still in big whole, and we can't expect big changes and improvement from them because it needs some good dedication and investment, which is not possible for all. Bangladesh and Zimbabwe both examples available now many want to scrap them from test status which is not fair but still these both not deserve this.

The team playing in home conditions are always going to have some advantage and they are obviously going to repair the cricket pitch so that they find it easier with their own playstyle.

Is it unfair to the visiting team? Yes, of course.

But, I think it is just the nature of the competition. Every team needs to get familiar with the conditions and play accordingly. We have to remember test cricket is not finished in one day. So, there are plenty of opportunities for the visiting team to find out how to play and what is the best plan of attack.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 18, 2022, 03:39:34 AM

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Broad and Anderson must retire as they have played enough cricket and should give chance to new talent. England team is just like Mumbai Indian they have a good captain like Root but no team. It will now take some years before England can have strong test team.

I disagree. Age should not be a factor here. If the younger bowlers like Woakes, Robinson, Overton, Mahmood and Wood have the ability to replace Broad or Anderson on merit, then I don't have a problem in dropping these two senior bowlers. But it looks as if that is not the case. The ECB doesn't have any real excuse to drop them, apart from the age factor. And trust me, if any of the younger bowlers I mentioned earlier had at least 50% of the capability of James Anderson, I would have supported the decision from the ECB.

I don't think their present ages could be a hindrance for the success of the team. As long as they are fit and still capable being fast bowlers, they should not be dropped from the team as easy as that. Looks like they follow the same route with Ashley Giles, Chris Silverwood, and Graham Thorpe from losing their jobs unreasonably. But i guess, there's nothing we can do with that. ECB director has already said his firm decision.

I think people sometimes confuse age with fitness. I don't think it's all about the age of a player. I think it's more about if he is fit or not to play.

We have seen a lot of players of the same age being absolutely different in terms of fitness in the past. And I think as long as they're fit and performing for his team he should not retire. These players are still performing quite well for the team and as long as the team does not find a good enough replacement for them I don't think they should even consider retirement.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on April 16, 2022, 09:30:06 PM

Quote from: blatchcorn on April 16, 2022, 11:58:01 AM

Broad and Anderson must retire as they have played enough cricket and should give chance to new talent. England team is just like Mumbai Indian they have a good captain like Root but no team. It will now take some years before England can have strong test team.

I disagree. Age should not be a factor here. If the younger bowlers like Woakes, Robinson, Overton, Mahmood and Wood have the ability to replace Broad or Anderson on merit, then I don't have a problem in dropping these two senior bowlers. But it looks as if that is not the case. The ECB doesn't have any real excuse to drop them, apart from the age factor. And trust me, if any of the younger bowlers I mentioned earlier had at least 50% of the capability of James Anderson, I would have supported the decision from the ECB.

I don't think their present ages could be a hindrance for the success of the team. As long as they are fit and still capable being fast bowlers, they should not be dropped from the team as easy as that. Looks like they follow the same route with Ashley Giles, Chris Silverwood, and Graham Thorpe from losing their jobs unreasonably. But i guess, there's nothing we can do with that. ECB director has already said his firm decision.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on April 17, 2022, 05:52:42 AM

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They both are over 38 years and that's not the age for fast bowler to play a test match. If ECB keep on relying on these aged players and don't wanna move to young talent that can serve them for next 10 to 15 years then things will get more tough for them in the long run.

James Anderson is 39 years old and do you know any bowler in world cricket that is bowling well like him and still pick wickets, he did not slow down in pace and he is swigging the ball like he used to do in his prime and you will not find a replacement for bowlers like him and then Stuart Broad is 35 years old and he is still picking wickets and then the other promising bowlers are Mark Wood and Jofra Archer and if they can stay fit then they are in safe hands for a while, if not let them continue as long as they are making an impact with the bowl.

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