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Quote from: JSRAW on January 02, 2022, 01:00:18 AM

This is some gutsy response from the Bongs. First with the ball on the second day and then with the bat. They are setting good example for other teams when visiting NZ -- India i'm talking about you lol-
Bangladesh as a team has a tendency to show some glimpse of becoming good team but unfortunately nowadays its once in a blue moon kind of event. I really hope that they compete with the same intensity in next 3 remaining days and produce some cracking match for the spectators.

I can't say what will be the result, but Bangladesh is at the front seat of the match now. However, the betting odds is still in favour of New Zealand. I'm wondering why the betting sites are underestimating team Bangladesh like that.

Bangladesh will loss this match if their batting lineup collapse on the day 3. Otherwise I can't see any reason to underestimate them at this point. Probably New Zealand is favourite as they are playing in their home condition and the recent performance of Bangladesh isn't so good.

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A good day of test cricket for Bangladesh, above all else they dismissed New Zealand for 328 runs then strong execution with batting. They manage to get 175/2 runs at the end of day 2 and trail by 153 additional runs. Fantastic batting by Bangladesh after quite a while. Solid effort by youngsters so unpleasant surprise. I'm convince that they will lead against New Zealand which will be exceptionally intriguing to watch.

There were only three contributions from NZ side Devon Conway, Will Young and Henry Nicholls. Apart from these three there is no noticeable performance from any NZ player. Good thing is Bangladesh are in game and they needed such opportunity badly. Bangladesh must take advantage of this momentum and try to win the game.

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Quote from: BALIK on January 02, 2022, 04:00:53 AM

What's going on with team New Zealand? New Zealand probably started the day with 257 runs. They lost all their wickets for only 328 runs. I expected a little better batting. Most surprised, Mominul Haque bowled only 4 overs and took 2 wickets. We used to know Mominul only as a batsman. Now he has become an all-rounder.
Bangladesh collected 175, losing only 2 wickets. Mahmudul Hasan Joy is unbeaten on 70 runs. Young players of Bangladesh. The batting of this 21-year-old player is good enough. He scored 70 runs off 211 balls. His batting is also awesome against destructive bowlers like Southee and Boult. After a long time, we see any opening batsman of Bangladesh playing well.

I don't know where are test matches heading? On one day we have one favorite team while on second day the other team is favorite. If anyone is betting on Tests then its really getting challenging. Same happened in Pak/Bangladesh, NZ/India test series and same is the case with this test match. Yesterday NZ was favorite but today everything is in Bangladesh favor.

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What's going on with team New Zealand? New Zealand probably started the day with 257 runs. They lost all their wickets for only 328 runs. I expected a little better batting. Most surprised, Mominul Haque bowled only 4 overs and took 2 wickets. We used to know Mominul only as a batsman. Now he has become an all-rounder.

Bangladesh collected 175, losing only 2 wickets. Mahmudul Hasan Joy is unbeaten on 70 runs. Young players of Bangladesh. The batting of this 21-year-old player is good enough. He scored 70 runs off 211 balls. His batting is also awesome against destructive bowlers like Southee and Boult. After a long time, we see any opening batsman of Bangladesh playing well.

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This is some gutsy response from the Bongs. First with the ball on the second day and then with the bat. They are setting good example for other teams when visiting NZ -- India i'm talking about you lol-

Bangladesh as a team has a tendency to show some glimpse of becoming good team but unfortunately nowadays its once in a blue moon kind of event. I really hope that they compete with the same intensity in next 3 remaining days and produce some cracking match for the spectators.

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Yes Quinton de Kock retired only from the longer format, the fact is that South Africa did not play much Test Cricket in the past 3 years and yet he thinks that the work load is too much and he is not yet 30 years and over all the Test team is not in a good position either as the pressure to perform is upon him as well since they do not have solid players in the longer format.

He took this decision primarily because of his family. His reasoning behind this decision makes complete sense and I would have done the same if I were in his position.

It's tough to maintain a proper work-life balance while playing in all formats of Cricket these days which is why more and more players are retiring quickly from tests and ODIs and this trend will most likely won't change in the future.

That's true, players too have the work life balance. At times they weren't able to manage. Quinton De Cock retired just because he has got a big responsibility playing all formats of cricket. There are players who are much concentrating on IPL and similar leagues which pays them good. For an year they play on few such leagues and enjoy rest of the days. This looks good for them, but this could ruin the cricketing slowly.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 01, 2022, 04:10:42 PM

Yes Quinton de Kock retired only from the longer format, the fact is that South Africa did not play much Test Cricket in the past 3 years and yet he thinks that the work load is too much and he is not yet 30 years and over all the Test team is not in a good position either as the pressure to perform is upon him as well since they do not have solid players in the longer format.

He took this decision primarily because of his family. His reasoning behind this decision makes complete sense and I would have done the same if I were in his position.

It's tough to maintain a proper work-life balance while playing in all formats of Cricket these days which is why more and more players are retiring quickly from tests and ODIs and this trend will most likely not change in the future.

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Both Shadman Islam and Mahmudul Hasan Joy have given a good start for Bangladesh against hostile conditions. They are at 41/0. Bangladesh is still trailing by some 287 runs, and I don't expect them to take a lead in this match. But if the middle order also provides some support, then it is possible that Bangladesh may end up with a decent total. Then everything will depend upon the spinners in second innings. If they can repeat what they did in the first innings, then there is a real chance of an upset at Mount Maunganui.

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Bangladesh bowlers have done well. But Bangladesh will win the Test match, even against the strong New Zealand, I did not even dream of it. Bangladesh can fight hard. The match will probably be competitive if Bangladesh batsmen can play well. However, I do not believe in the batsmen of Bangladesh. No wonder they lost all their wickets before 100 runs. We have seen a lot of poor batting from the Bangladesh team.

Bangladesh bowlers good bowling was destroyed by Devon Conway century. The good thing for Bangladesh is Devon Conway is no more on crease, so there is a chance New Zealand can be bowled out at 350. Seeing the recent performance of Bangladesh I don't think they can win the game but they must try to chase runs and remain in the match. This will give there players confidence for future games.

Bangladesh is in trouble now in my opinion as Newzealand has been able to score 317 runs and they still have wickets in hand. I am not sure whether Bangladesh batsmen will be able to chase this target. If NZ is bowled out for 350 then to it will be a struggle for Bangladesh batter to chase that target.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 31, 2021, 07:57:57 PM

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This was a surprise to me too. He only retired from tests though at the moment which implies that he will still be available in the other formats of the game.

Yes Quinton de Kock retired only from the longer format, the fact is that South Africa did not play much Test Cricket in the past 3 years and yet he thinks that the work load is too much and he is not yet 30 years and over all the Test team is not in a good position either as the pressure to perform is upon him as well since they do not have solid players in the longer format.

Even with a century from Devon Conway New Zealand is not in a great position as they lost 5 wickets and Bangladesh bowled really well in these conditions which was a surprise for me. If the Bangladesh batsman can perform in these pitches then it will be an interesting series, if not another white wash from New Zealand.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on January 01, 2022, 12:22:36 PM

Bangladesh bowlers have done well. But Bangladesh will win the Test match, even against the strong New Zealand, I did not even dream of it. Bangladesh can fight hard. The match will probably be competitive if Bangladesh batsmen can play well. However, I do not believe in the batsmen of Bangladesh. No wonder they lost all their wickets before 100 runs. We have seen a lot of poor batting from the Bangladesh team.

Bangladesh bowlers good bowling was destroyed by Devon Conway century. The good thing for Bangladesh is Devon Conway is no more on crease, so there is a chance New Zealand can be bowled out at 350. Seeing the recent performance of Bangladesh I don't think they can win the game but they must try to chase runs and remain in the match. This will give there players confidence for future games.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on January 01, 2022, 12:22:36 PM

Bangladesh bowlers have done well. But Bangladesh will win the Test match, even against the strong New Zealand, I did not even dream of it. Bangladesh can fight hard. The match will probably be competitive if Bangladesh batsmen can play well. However, I do not believe in the batsmen of Bangladesh. No wonder they lost all their wickets before 100 runs. We have seen a lot of poor batting from the Bangladesh team.

It's typical New Zealand wicket which is favouring seamers, and they are doing good with very young batting line-up for Bangladesh I am feeling any target above 350+ is very difficult, and they can lose the match by an inning because they are no quality batting line-up which can face these Lethal Kiwis.

Shakib and Tamim now both are not part of this team which is bringing more problems with new batsmen are also having no good technique like we already watch them against Pakistan at home after many years as staying test nation they are completely failed to produce any good test player which is now big threat for them in test community with staying at bottom with West Indies and Ireland.

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Bangladesh is quite strong, but it lacks experienced play. Bangladesh isn't improving on test cricket, but in other formats it is performing good. During this match Bangladesh will experience the climate condition change. This can also make the players experience difficulty.

The names of the experienced players of Bangladesh are Shakib, Mushkif Tamim and Mahmudullah. But even though they are in the team, I have not seen much improvement in the performance of the team. Bangladesh is always weak in Test format. The young and experienced squads are almost the same. Their performance is not improving

They are the key players of Bangladesh. Among those players only Mushfiqur Rahim is playing in this series. You may expect something better from Bangladesh team if those key players are in the field. But currently they are playing with young and inexperienced players. New Zealand has made a good score today. Still I'm not going to keep them ahead, but the betting odds is fully in favour of them. Currently the odds is 1.06× for New Zealand win, which is 32× for Bangladesh.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on January 01, 2022, 11:28:48 AM

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I would say Bangladesh will not be able to collect more than 250 in the first innings against bowling lineup like New Zealand.

Against quality swinging pace attacks against Tim Southee and Trent Boult, I guess it would be too hard for any team in New Zealand soil. If Bangladesh continues same form like how they struggled against Pakistan then New Zealand may win by an innings. I am just expecting one-sided match here as I am not expecting Bangladesh to show any fight out side their home.

Bangladesh bowlers have done well. But Bangladesh will win the Test match, even against the strong New Zealand, I did not even dream of it. Bangladesh can fight hard. The match will probably be competitive if Bangladesh batsmen can play well. However, I do not believe in the batsmen of Bangladesh. No wonder they lost all their wickets before 100 runs. We have seen a lot of poor batting from the Bangladesh team.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 01, 2022, 08:45:04 AM

New Zealand have lost 5 wickets scoring 285 runs by the end of day 1. With 5 wickets left it can manage to score 400 runs. However the last order will be of bowlers which restricts the score within 360 runs.

New Zealand's next day's performance will largely depend on the first session. If they do not lose wickets in the first session, New Zealand can easily collect more than 400. Let's see how the batsmen do tomorrow. I think Bangladeshi bowlers will be able to do well tomorrow.

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Bangladesh is quite strong, but it lacks experienced play. Bangladesh isn't improving on test cricket, but in other formats it is performing good. During this match Bangladesh will experience the climate condition change. This can also make the players experience difficulty.

The names of the experienced players of Bangladesh are Shakib, Mushkif Tamim and Mahmudullah. But even though they are in the team, I have not seen much improvement in the performance of the team. Bangladesh is always weak in Test format. The young and experienced squads are almost the same. Their performance is not improving

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Quote from: romero121 on January 01, 2022, 08:45:04 AM

New Zealand have lost 5 wickets scoring 285 runs by the end of day 1. With 5 wickets left it can manage to score 400 runs. However the last order will be of bowlers which restricts the score within 360 runs.

Devon Conway's returning century helped New Zealand to start the new year stronger, they really missed him while their recent tour to India. From here, I guess even 450 to 500 runs also possible as Mount Maunganui is known for its batting friendly nature.

Quote from: Minor Miner on January 01, 2022, 10:48:36 AM

I would say Bangladesh will not be able to collect more than 250 in the first innings against bowling lineup like New Zealand.

Against quality swinging pace attacks against Tim Southee and Trent Boult, I guess it would be too hard for any team in New Zealand soil. If Bangladesh continues same form like how they struggled against Pakistan then New Zealand may win by an innings. I am just expecting one-sided match here as I am not expecting Bangladesh to show any fight out side their home.

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New Zealand's players have been able to perform consistently. If we compare the Test match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, it can be considered as a one-sided match. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. At the end of the first day, New Zealand lost 5 wickets for 256 runs. I have seen the bowling of Bangladesh bowlers. They are not doing bad. Most likely, New Zealand's innings could end in 360.

Bangladesh might be an emerging team but actually, they are not at all improving them in test cricket, for them winning a test match at away venues is still more like a dream. New Zealand is the best Test team in the world currently, and to be very honest they aren't really performing like the best team currently, So I would say Bangladesh is doing okay in this match. I expected atleast 400 from NZ in the first innings, it still looks achievable but you are right an intelligent guess would be around 350-360.

Bangladesh is a weak team. I will call them weak team now because I have seen their performance against Pakistan. They had weaker and irregular performances than in Afghanistan. Since Bangladesh is inexperienced in Test format.
So we all thought this series was one-sided. We all thought New Zealand would dominate and win. Although New Zealand's performance at the end of the first day was lower than we expected, they still have ample opportunity to dominate the entire series and win. If they can do more than 400 in the first innings, it will be enough to defeat a team like Bangladesh. I would say Bangladesh will not be able to collect more than 250 in the first innings against bowling lineup like New Zealand.

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Quote from: teosanru on January 01, 2022, 08:31:03 AM

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Newzeland vs Bangladesh
New Zealand's players have been able to perform consistently. If we compare the Test match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, it can be considered as a one-sided match. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. At the end of the first day, New Zealand lost 5 wickets for 256 runs. I have seen the bowling of Bangladesh bowlers. They are not doing bad. Most likely, New Zealand's innings could end in 360.

Bangladesh might be an emerging team but actually, they are not at all improving them in test cricket, for them winning a test match at away venues is still more like a dream. New Zealand is the best Test team in the world currently, and to be very honest they aren't really performing like the best team currently, So I would say Bangladesh is doing okay in this match. I expected atleast 400 from NZ in the first innings, it still looks achievable but you are right an intelligent guess would be around 350-360.

New Zealand have lost 5 wickets scoring 285 runs by the end of day 1. With 5 wickets left it can manage to score 400 runs. However the last order will be of bowlers which restricts the score within 360 runs.

Bangladesh is quite strong, but it lacks experienced play. Bangladesh isn't improving on test cricket, but in other formats it is performing good. During this match Bangladesh will experience the climate condition change. This can also make the players experience difficulty.

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Quote from: kro55 on January 01, 2022, 06:10:18 AM

Newzeland vs Bangladesh
New Zealand's players have been able to perform consistently. If we compare the Test match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, it can be considered as a one-sided match. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. At the end of the first day, New Zealand lost 5 wickets for 256 runs. I have seen the bowling of Bangladesh bowlers. They are not doing bad. Most likely, New Zealand's innings could end in 360.

Bangladesh might be an emerging team but actually, they are not at all improving them in test cricket, for them winning a test match at away venues is still more like a dream. New Zealand is the best Test team in the world currently, and to be very honest they aren't really performing like the best team currently, So I would say Bangladesh is doing okay in this match. I expected atleast 400 from NZ in the first innings, it still looks achievable but you are right an intelligent guess would be around 350-360.

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Quote from: kro55 on January 01, 2022, 06:10:18 AM

Newzeland vs Bangladesh
New Zealand's players have been able to perform consistently. If we compare the Test match between Bangladesh and New Zealand, it can be considered as a one-sided match. Bangladesh won the toss and elected to bowl. At the end of the first day, New Zealand lost 5 wickets for 256 runs. I have seen the bowling of Bangladesh bowlers. They are not doing bad. Most likely, New Zealand's innings could end in 360.

Devon Conway must have really enjoyed scoring his first Test century at home, a very special milestone in the new year of 2022. The young lads are doing well in Bangladesh following an unexpectedly good start to the new year. After the first day of play, Bangladesh took five wickets, but their plain bowling couldn't stop the Kiwi batters. A huge innings will be scored on the board if they cannot return tomorrow morning.

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