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Quote from: JSRAW on December 19, 2021, 11:59:35 PM

^^ So that's a actual reason of English surrender Grin

They should boycott South Africa and New Zealand for not sending enough talent to their shore. Spirit of cricket is in danger cause of Protea and Kiwis.

ECB should go on offensive mode and start poaching more players from the subcontinent, especially Pakistan.

They are still batting so moral victory. Tongue

If ECB can give a place in a national team plus an England nationality, many from the subcontinent will happily leave the country for the sake of money. They would sell their soul for money. Sad

Australia winning first two tests; you can call it home advantage Cool

I am not agreed here with you on this statement that it's home advantage they are playing very good and having these both wins by big margins against crapy English team which need some better players for this Ashes but completely fail to have quality players. Root and Malan two batsmen can't handle the very aggressive Australian bowling attack with Starc, Richardson, Nesser and Lyon all doing a very good job. After watching English team I was expecting 5 - 0 from Australia, but media hype was going for some tough competition which was completely fraud for having some better viewership and attention for this series which is now having nothing good for cricket fans.

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Another poor performance from England specially inthe batting department. Their batting line up collapses again and again just after the wicket of root fells. Their batting unit is not able to perform as a team. Today butler showed some resistant but that was not enough. Looking like a whitewash to me this series if rain done not spoil any of the matches .

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 19, 2021, 11:59:35 PM

^^ So that's a actual reason of English surrender Grin

They should boycott South Africa and New Zealand for not sending enough talent to their shore. Spirit of cricket is in danger cause of Protea and Kiwis.

ECB should go on offensive mode and start poaching more players from the subcontinent, especially Pakistan.

They are still batting so moral victory. Tongue

If ECB can give a place in a national team plus an England nationality, many from the subcontinent will happily leave the country for the sake of money. They would sell their soul for money. Sad

Australia winning first two tests; you can call it home advantage Cool

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Quote from: JSRAW on December 20, 2021, 07:02:03 AM

And just like that its 2-0.

Poms did manage to save their face (Well kinda) by dragging game into final session and face 113 overs, some might argue that they only won 1-ish session in this match and its true but they also showed some sort of resistance on final day so that's a positive considering they were setting new milestone on "How to collapse" every time they came to bat.

English batters also making Green look good. Same guy went wicketless last summer.

This time there is good resistance, because on the last day of the match with six wickets left England have managed to face almost 70 overs. Though the scoring is very slow, the team have withstood a long. This is something positive from the team, if this positive move continues by the upcoming match England could give a better play. Anyhow the series has almost into the hands of Australia.

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And just like that its 2-0.

Poms did manage to save their face (Well kinda) by dragging game into final session and face 113 overs, some might argue that they only won 1-ish session in this match and its true but they also showed some sort of resistance on final day so that's a positive considering they were setting new milestone on "How to collapse" every time they came to bat.

English batters also making Green look good. Same guy went wicketless last summer.

No WTC finals for the Poms (ICC also docked the points). If we go simply by existing schedule scenario then Pakistan is hot fav, followed by Australia and may be India if they manage to compete in SA.

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So england are already 6 down and Australia going for another win may be in couple of hours. 2 wickets already this morning and butler and woakes are batting currently and after this only main bowlers are there. May be they will survive the first session and in thr second session they win all out and australia will get their second win of this ashes series.

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^^ So that's a actual reason of English surrender Grin

They should boycott South Africa and New Zealand for not sending enough talent to their shore. Spirit of cricket is in danger cause of Protea and Kiwis.

ECB should go on offensive mode and start poaching more players from the subcontinent, especially Pakistan.

They are still batting so moral victory. Tongue

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 19, 2021, 08:29:48 PM

They already lost 4 wickets so far and are struggling against the Aussie bowlers currently. Am expecting them to get bowled out within 150-200 at this rate.

Batting is going to be tough on 5th day, and that too against experienced bowlers like Starc and Lyon. BTW, did anyone noticed that the Australian playing XI had two players who were born in South Africa? I guess this is the first time that has happened in test matches. Teams like New Zealand usually have 3-4 South Africans in their playing XI, but for quite some time Australia never had any foreign born players in their XI. Now with the inclusion of Marnus Labuschagne and Michael Neser, it is slowly changing.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on December 19, 2021, 01:37:48 PM

Aus just broke that hype by there quality performance in first two matches.

True. One sided Aussie domination surprised me. Their recent T-20 World Cup win coupled with their home ground advantage boosted team morale due to which they have been performing really well recently.

Players like Warner, Marnus etc continue performing consistently which has helped other players in their team like Smith(Has been in a slump for sometime now) perform well too.

Quote from: eaLiTy on December 19, 2021, 01:42:47 PM

Their plan is to play as long as possible and delay the loss, which batsman will test the patience of Australian bowlers is to be seen as they have not done that till now and now they are playing to save the match, they will fold soon but expect some cameo performance.

They already lost 4 wickets so far and are struggling against the Aussie bowlers currently. Am expecting them to get bowled out within 150-200 at this rate.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on December 19, 2021, 01:37:48 PM

I dont think England is weak team, they are just outclassed by professional cricket of Australia. Current England team is much better then what they were in 1996, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011 WC. I do agree that there was hype before ashes that England is much stronger then Aus. Aus just broke that hype by there quality performance in first two matches.

Here you are not right because current team is completely useless in technique and have nothing to face Australian quality pace attack just how they are doing like Burns, Hameed and few others just Root and Malan both have some better figures all others are giving wickets like crap because they are very poor in quality. Recently their form is not good just very few players able to have done something good at home all others are doing worst which will continue for some more time because their counties are also having not good quality batsmen which is now main concern for them.

They need to change few things for better quality, but they have very poor record for this all which is the biggest problem ECB need to overhaul all system.

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Quote from: CDC AP on December 19, 2021, 11:32:00 AM

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Well the match will not last even half a day. Looking at england batting performance even batting one session would be a challange for them. Root already out and only stokes a solid batsman left. They can collapse yet again as they collapsed last two times also. England batting is really bad. As soon as root gets out they always get bundled out cheapely.

After watching the three innings they played in the Ashes, there is nothing much they will do in this match, their plan is to play as long as possible and delay the loss, which batsman will test the patience of Australian bowlers is to be seen as they have not done that till now and now they are playing to save the match, they will fold soon but expect some cameo performance.

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Quote from: redsun114 on December 18, 2021, 04:01:09 PM

England was never good and no one was feeling good about them just some hype was created by few media reports which was ended after first test result and now second test result is going to be giving them complete silent because all realizes it's just dumb team which can perform some better at home against weak sides.

And playing against Australia, India and New Zealand is completely different thing, so they fail here very badly now mostly peoples feeling this ashes is going to end with result of 5 - 0 which is not wrong because with current players and form it's surely written of the wall. Just some good rain can give them good relief from this, otherwise they are going to be completely outclass by all one off best team in current cricket game in this format.

I dont think England is weak team, they are just outclassed by professional cricket of Australia. Current England team is much better then what they were in 1996, 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011 WC. I do agree that there was hype before ashes that England is much stronger then Aus. Aus just broke that hype by there quality performance in first two matches.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on December 19, 2021, 11:02:33 AM

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More 90 overs to be played with six wickets left England can't draw the game. End of day 4 England have lost 4 wickets for 82 runs. More 386 runs required in the last day. Ben Stokes is on the grease, Ollie Pope and Jos Butler are left as batsmen. So, the match is in the hands of Australia. Second innings of Australia isn't that better, just because of the high first innings score they're taking the lead.

Undoubtedly England will loss the match. Their batters are struggling again. Still they have some good batman, but all of them are in off form. England need to chase huge run to get the victory with their remaining 6 wickets, which won't be possible in the last day. And I believe their batsman won't be able to play for long on day 5. Betting odds is almost 10 on draw and it is 1.04 for Australia win.

Well the match will not last even half a day. Looking at england batting performance even batting one session would be a challange for them. Root already out and only stokes a solid batsman left. They can collapse yet again as they collapsed last two times also. England batting is really bad. As soon as root gets out they always get bundled out cheapely.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on December 19, 2021, 06:50:28 AM

More 90 overs to be played with six wickets left England can't draw the game. End of day 4 England have lost 4 wickets for 82 runs. More 386 runs required in the last day. Ben Stokes is on the grease, Ollie Pope and Jos Butler are left as batsmen. So, the match is in the hands of Australia. Second innings of Australia isn't that better, just because of the high first innings score they're taking the lead.

Undoubtedly England will loss the match. Their batters are struggling again. Still they have some good batman, but all of them are in off form. England need to chase huge run to get the victory with their remaining 6 wickets, which won't be possible in the last day. And I believe their batsman won't be able to play for long on day 5. Betting odds is almost 10 on draw and it is 1.04 for Australia win.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 19, 2021, 05:55:44 AM

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They have already lost one opener and there might be another tomorrow. This match has also slipped away from England they are struggling and especially in batting. Neither the openers are in form nor the lower middle order. The whole team is dependent on Malan and Root. If this continues they will lose all the matches in this series.

England lost 3 wickets for 70 runs. Malan was in form. I thought Malan and Root's partnership would be long in today's innings as well. But Malan was out for 20 runs. The match now depends on the root. In fact, even if Root plays well now, I don't think England will be able to draw the match. Because, even if Root survives at the crease, other batsmen will not be able to fight against the Australian bowlers for long.

More 90 overs to be played with six wickets left England can't draw the game. End of day 4 England have lost 4 wickets for 82 runs. More 386 runs required in the last day. Ben Stokes is on the grease, Ollie Pope and Jos Butler are left as batsmen. So, the match is in the hands of Australia. Second innings of Australia isn't that better, just because of the high first innings score they're taking the lead.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 19, 2021, 05:55:44 AM

England lost 3 wickets for 70 runs. Malan was in form. I thought Malan and Root's partnership would be long in today's innings as well. But Malan was out for 20 runs. The match now depends on the root. In fact, even if Root plays well now, I don't think England will be able to draw the match. Because, even if Root survives at the crease, other batsmen will not be able to fight against the Australian bowlers for long.

Both Root and Malan are gone. England batting in this series so far is mainly dependent on these two players. After Root dismissal, 4th days play was called off. As long as Root was there on the crease, there were some chances of draw. But now it's surely 2-0.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 19, 2021, 03:54:42 AM

They have already lost one opener and there might be another tomorrow. This match has also slipped away from England they are struggling and especially in batting. Neither the openers are in form nor the lower middle order. The whole team is dependent on Malan and Root. If this continues they will lose all the matches in this series.

England lost 3 wickets for 70 runs. Malan was in form. I thought Malan and Root's partnership would be long in today's innings as well. But Malan was out for 20 runs. The match now depends on the root. In fact, even if Root plays well now, I don't think England will be able to draw the match. Because, even if Root survives at the crease, other batsmen will not be able to fight against the Australian bowlers for long.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on December 19, 2021, 04:54:13 AM

Indian pitches are flat and New Zealand managed to bat through out 5th day with the help of India origin Rachin Ravindra (some meme creators teased it like New Zealand hired Indians to beat India in India). So, that must be a very tactical move which may not be possible for most countries. Still, if more players other than Malan and Root start contributing then there would be a better chances for England to draw from here.

Yeah, there would be zero chances for England to win this match but they are having less than 50% chances to draw. Let's wait and watch what are exciting moments available for test cricket lovers but I guess Australia will pick all remaining 9 wickets for another 150 to 200 runs.

England are three down now. Malan gone after scoring just 20 runs. Ben Stokes is on the crease, can he deliver something extraordinary in this match? There was much hype before Ashes that Ben is fit n will play Ashes. So far it looks like England were over confidence while Australians prepared well for this series.

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Quote from: Theones on December 19, 2021, 04:40:34 AM

There are 25 overs still left for today's play. Haseeb is gone for zero, he is not having a good time in his debut. Odds are in favour of Australia. We saw similar situation in recent first test match between India and NZ. NZ was at verge of losing first match but they draw the match with one wicket remaining. Can England do the same ?

Indian pitches are flat and New Zealand managed to bat through out 5th day with the help of India origin Rachin Ravindra (some meme creators teased it like New Zealand hired Indians to beat India in India). So, that must be a very tactical move which may not be possible for most countries. Still, if more players other than Malan and Root start contributing then there would be a better chances for England to draw from here.

Yeah, there would be zero chances for England to win this match but they are having less than 50% chances to draw. Let's wait and watch what are exciting moments available for test cricket lovers but I guess Australia will pick all remaining 9 wickets for another 150 to 200 runs.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on December 19, 2021, 03:54:42 AM

They have already lost one opener and there might be another tomorrow. This match has also slipped away from England they are struggling and especially in batting. Neither the openers are in form nor the lower middle order. The whole team is dependent on Malan and Root. If this continues they will lose all the matches in this series.

There are 25 overs still left for today's play. Haseeb is gone for zero, he is not having a good time in his debut. Odds are in favour of Australia. We saw similar situation in recent first test match between India and NZ. NZ was at verge of losing first match but they draw the match with one wicket remaining. Can England do the same ?

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