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Quote from: kro55 on March 27, 2022, 01:26:36 PM

Quote from: onecall123 on March 27, 2022, 12:48:07 PM

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident.

There are a lot of talented batsmen in the England team. But there are not enough experienced players for the Test format. Talented players are not always suitable for the Test format. If you want to play well in Test format, you must be patient. Otherwise, you are not able to survive at the crease for long. England's management should form a Test squad with lessons learned from the defeat against the West Indies.

I have always seen England as a great test cricket-playing nation and I don't think I am wrong. But England nowadays have a lot of concerns on limited-overs cricket and that's why I think they forgot about test cricket.

I really did not expect this result from England against a team like West Indies. I expect England to beat West Indies in 10 out of 10 matches but I see that the skill of the England test cricket team has certainly deteriorated. They need to concentrate on test cricket to have better results in the future.

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Quote from: onecall123 on March 27, 2022, 12:48:07 PM

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident.

Victory here for Wet Indies by 10 wickets after 2 draw matches. This victory is only because of Joshua Da Silva century in the first innings, he is also man of the match. WI badly need such victories in coming days to regain there form. While something is terribly wrong with England, they need to think whats going on in the team. May be they need to give rest to experienced players that are not performing.

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Quote from: onecall123 on March 27, 2022, 12:48:07 PM

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident.

There are a lot of talented batsmen in the England team. But there are not enough experienced players for the Test format. Talented players are not always suitable for the Test format. If you want to play well in Test format, you must be patient. Otherwise, you are not able to survive at the crease for long. England's management should form a Test squad with lessons learned from the defeat against the West Indies.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 27, 2022, 02:40:24 AM

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 26, 2022, 10:18:13 PM

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root.

It was a terrible day for England's cricket. Their top order didn't bat. This problem has existed for years. Right now, they're lacking of everything; their mindset, their approach, their self-belief, their abilities to bat throughout the day. Bio-bubbles are affecting them negatively since they spend a lot of time in them. Instead of resting and managing players constantly, play the best XI.

I think the main problem for England players at the moment is that they have lost confidence. Because they are consistently playing bad. The players have lost form. And now, due to lack of confidence, their performance has become even weaker. I thought England could play well against the West Indies. But England is showing a weaker performance against the West Indies. Their key players must be rested before the next World Cup. Otherwise, England will perform poorly in the World Cup.

You can't avoid downfall, but you have to deal with it. Obviously, England lost their best moments. It is because they place too much emphasis on limited overs cricket that has caused their downfall. There are fewer good batters than they once had. This makes England's batting lineup unsatisfactory. Rather than Root, there are no batsmen in good form. The team must change its tactics and team composition and be more confident.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 26, 2022, 04:07:25 PM

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True. At first, I thought that Pat Cummins was a complete idiot, after he declared with a lead of just 351 runs. The pitch was very flat and not offering much support for the bowlers. Somehow Nathan Lyon managed to bowl exceptionally and combined with some senseless batting display from the Pakistanis, they managed to win the match as well as the series. And the Pakistanis should be ashamed that they managed to lose the series despite preparing such substandard pitches. Next time hopefully they would refrain from going in to 100% defensive mode.

The funny aspect is that even though the pitch was flat, the Australian bowlers were able exploit reverse swing which was introduced to world Cricket by Pakistan legends and Australia was able to win the match and series.

England is struggling in the second innings as they already lost their 7th wicket and they are leading by just 7 runs and it looks like West Indies will win the match easily.

Aussie are amazing be it Women's team or Men's team, they have Shape minds. They know how to cope up with any situation. They are dedicated and hard working and put their souls into their task. I am very great fan of Aussie they have great techniques for sports and other stuff.

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Quote from: onecall123 on March 27, 2022, 12:05:48 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on March 26, 2022, 10:18:13 PM

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root.

It was a terrible day for England's cricket. Their top order didn't bat. This problem has existed for years. Right now, they're lacking of everything; their mindset, their approach, their self-belief, their abilities to bat throughout the day. Bio-bubbles are affecting them negatively since they spend a lot of time in them. Instead of resting and managing players constantly, play the best XI.

I think the main problem for England players at the moment is that they have lost confidence. Because they are consistently playing bad. The players have lost form. And now, due to lack of confidence, their performance has become even weaker. I thought England could play well against the West Indies. But England is showing a weaker performance against the West Indies. Their key players must be rested before the next World Cup. Otherwise, England will perform poorly in the World Cup.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on March 27, 2022, 01:29:36 AM

We have been watching the irregular performances of the England team since the World Cup. The players of the team are not able to play well. No player is able to play good innings on a regular basis. Top-order players in particular have become more vulnerable to survival at the crease. If the top order of the team does not play well, it is very difficult to win. I think players need peace of mind. They have lost confidence.

England team is fully dependent on Root and Root is now feeling this pressure of whole team. Stokes is other one with whom England has huge expectations but since Ashes he failed to produce good results. Like Anderson and Broad, more players need to be excluded from team and new talent must be given some chance. It will definitely take some time.

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Quote from: blatchcorn on March 27, 2022, 12:46:45 AM

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Don't know what's going on with England team at the moment. This will be upset and i am sure lots of people will lose their bets. England were favorites and more people bet in their favor.

With this win, West Indies will also with the test series. That's something big for the WI and again this result is not what every gambler anticipated and again a loss in bets by masses.

I don't think it's an upset. England already lost ODI series here in West Indies while the first two matches ended in a draw. If you go a bit back, England just manage to survive 5-0 in Ashes. England still have two wickets left, they need some megical stuff like Joshua Da Silva did lower down the order.

We have been watching the irregular performances of the England team since the World Cup. The players of the team are not able to play well. No player is able to play good innings on a regular basis. Top-order players in particular have become more vulnerable to survival at the crease. If the top order of the team does not play well, it is very difficult to win. I think players need peace of mind. They have lost confidence.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 27, 2022, 12:26:35 AM

Don't know what's going on with England team at the moment. This will be upset and i am sure lots of people will lose their bets. England were favorites and more people bet in their favor.

With this win, West Indies will also with the test series. That's something big for the WI and again this result is not what every gambler anticipated and again a loss in bets by masses.

I don't think it's an upset. England already lost ODI series here in West Indies while the first two matches ended in a draw. If you go a bit back, England just manage to survive 5-0 in Ashes. England still have two wickets left, they need some megical stuff like Joshua Da Silva did lower down the order.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 26, 2022, 10:18:13 PM

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root.

Don't know what's going on with England team at the moment. This will be upset and i am sure lots of people will lose their bets. England were favorites and more people bet in their favor.

With this win, West Indies will also with the test series. That's something big for the WI and again this result is not what every gambler anticipated and again a loss in bets by masses.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 26, 2022, 01:16:34 PM

There is an opportunity to make Test cricket enjoyable. For this, the ICC has to take some difficult steps. The batting-friendly pitch must be stopped completely. As a result, the match became boring. But what the pitch will look like depends entirely on the home team. Notice, the match between England and West Indies is quite exciting. Only the team that plays well will win.

Now things are very difficult to make Test Cricket as enjoyable, sitting in front of television or in cricket ground for five day match is very hard job specially in Third World countries even now Indians fans are also not coming for test cricket matches just because of this looking to ICC for bringing some changes in not good as they can't do anything with this current system we can expect test cricket will survive for some long time because still we have something in this in few countries.

Fast pitches can bring some better results but still not fair for having some good interest and increase in fans base life is going to be difficult so every one looking for something better which need some good time and with this all it's not possible to watch these matches and have enjoyment.

T10 and T20 is better replacement but still many having no time for them as well, mostly peoples checking just scorecard on apps and having their required updates.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 26, 2022, 10:18:13 PM

^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root.

It was a terrible day for England's cricket. Their top order didn't bat. This problem has existed for years. Right now, they're lacking of everything; their mindset, their approach, their self-belief, their abilities to bat throughout the day. Bio-bubbles are affecting them negatively since they spend a lot of time in them. Instead of resting and managing players constantly, play the best XI.

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^^^^ LOL.. England is in big trouble. They have a lead of 10 runs, with 2 wickets in hand. It is funny how the match situation changed all of a sudden. Once again, the England batting collapses, with the top order contributing to hardly anything. One major drawback for England has been the poor form of Ben Stokes. It is true that he was able to score a century during the Bridgetown test, but overall his form has not been as good as it was before the injury. And all of this adds more pressure on Joe Root.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 25, 2022, 08:59:55 PM

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True. At first, I thought that Pat Cummins was a complete idiot, after he declared with a lead of just 351 runs. The pitch was very flat and not offering much support for the bowlers. Somehow Nathan Lyon managed to bowl exceptionally and combined with some senseless batting display from the Pakistanis, they managed to win the match as well as the series. And the Pakistanis should be ashamed that they managed to lose the series despite preparing such substandard pitches. Next time hopefully they would refrain from going in to 100% defensive mode.

The funny aspect is that even though the pitch was flat, the Australian bowlers were able exploit reverse swing which was introduced to world Cricket by Pakistan legends and Australia was able to win the match and series.

England is struggling in the second innings as they already lost their 7th wicket and they are leading by just 7 runs and it looks like West Indies will win the match easily.

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^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

T-20 Cricket is most enjoying and most popular game.But Test cricket many people watching nowadays and Test cricket is enjoyable if you can enjoy it.Many Cricket Fans watching test match and many people’s just check score. I hope Test cricket will be more popular in future.

There is an opportunity to make Test cricket enjoyable. For this, the ICC has to take some difficult steps. The batting-friendly pitch must be stopped completely. As a result, the match became boring. But what the pitch will look like depends entirely on the home team. Notice, the match between England and West Indies is quite exciting. Only the team that plays well will win.

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Quote from: coinism on March 26, 2022, 04:36:56 AM

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West Indies have scored 134 runs of the loss of 7 wickets right now. And this pitch is obviously a bowling pitch.

West Indies are still trailing by 70 runs. and it seems like they are not going to be able to take a lead.
I think they are going to be bowled out before that.

In my opinion, these are the type of test matches I like to enjoy because I really like to say batsmen working hard for their runs Instead of just getting free runs.

I was thinking the same that WI won't be able to take lead but they are 28 runs ahead with still 2 wickets in hands. A 54 runs innings from Joshua Da Silva and good support from other players lower down the order. West Indies are now right back in the game. Even 50 runs lead will be very handy at such surface.

English test cricket is at their lowest level with lost 4 - 0 against Australia in The Ashes and now here in West Indies after two draw matches mostly peoples feeling they are in good touch and can win this series like Australia after winning third test match.

But, Da Salva's amazing Century bring West Indies at driving seat now they are near to win this match as England start their second inning with trailing by 93 runs right now they are 31 for 3 with top order batsmen giving wickets like crap Crawley, Root and Lawrence all gone very cheaply now Alex Lees and Ben Stokes at crease with 62 runs still need for avoiding inning defeat and West Indian bowlers Mayer's and Seals are unplayable for visitors in second inning.

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West Indies vs England

The current state of the England team is very bad now. I would be happy if England lost this match against West Indies. As a result, they will try to play better in the upcoming matches.
West Indies lost their seventh wicket for 128 runs. Did anyone then imagine that West Indies would end their innings with 297 runs? The unstable bowling of its bowlers in England helped the West Indies to score 297 runs. England lost 3 wickets for only 27 runs in the second innings.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 25, 2022, 12:54:50 PM

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

T-20 Cricket is most enjoying and most popular game.But Test cricket many people watching nowadays and Test cricket is enjoyable if you can enjoy it.Many Cricket Fans watching test match and many people’s just check score. I hope Test cricket will be more popular in future.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 26, 2022, 05:34:00 AM

If we leave few bilateral series then i hate to admit that your statement is true and i guess everyone know that, including ICC officials.

Having said that, in context of India. I would say that in last 5-6 years Test cricket popularity has only gone up due to Indian team success. Although BCCI still failed to pull crowd in stadium but its because of poor facilities and neglecting crowd pulling venue (Due to rotation policy, its related to hosting rights for the states).

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India has rotation policy and that's best in the interest of country that every state get a chance to host international matches not just few states have that right. Sometimes you have to compromise on revenue to bring equality in the country. Between, till now I have a mindset that India has best venues in the world with adequate facilities.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on March 25, 2022, 12:54:50 PM

^^^ To be honest, I don't think test cricket is going to get back its popularity anymore. yes obviously experiments can be done but I really doubt that people are going to be interested in test cricket again after watching T20 action.

Test cricket is just too old-fashioned. and the new kid in town(T20) is stealing the show. I really think the draw system in Test cricket should be withdrawn but I don't know how it can be done.

If we leave few bilateral series then i hate to admit that your statement is true and i guess everyone know that, including ICC officials.

Having said that, in context of India. I would say that in last 5-6 years Test cricket popularity has only gone up due to Indian team success. Although BCCI still failed to pull crowd in stadium but its because of poor facilities and neglecting crowd pulling venue (Due to rotation policy, its related to hosting rights for the states).

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