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Quote from: madnessteat on January 24, 2021, 10:07:03 AM

No matter how hard the Thai government tries, the shadow gambling business will not be eradicated. There are many things in the world that are controlled by organized crime groups. In order to force them to give up their bread, a lot of blood will have to be spilled. I think that no one will just go for such measures.

That was too much of thinking. How can you say that if you aren't there and sees the situation?

Thailand's government knows better than us. This isn't a childish discussion.

They will just tackle the problems of illegal gambling and that was common and usual in any country. If they will fail, which I think won't happen, at least they tried. If they succeed, then good as legit gambling operators will get more revenue, hence helping the government in terms of tax.

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Quote from: fiulpro on January 23, 2021, 02:37:46 PM

I came across this news where the government of Thailand is looking to get a sub committee ready to tackle the illegal gambling in the country.

They do believe that these gambling sites are the ones spreading the COVID more.

During situation like a pandemic it is important that the government should identify the places where these activities especially illegal gambling and clubs or dance bars can create problems as people do not really care about the situation and flaunt social distancing norms. It is a not a problem in Thailand alone but everywhere in the world where these illegal bars and gambling function usually paying off the cops or the local body.

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Gambling always finds it way. Though I'm happy Thailand is at least doing something to ward off these illegal gamblers. Here in my country, even funerals and wakes are being profiteered, they set up gambling tents and bet on money to pay off the services and the grave. Everybody knows about this but no one is doing something.

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Quote from: madnessteat on January 24, 2021, 10:07:03 AM

No matter how hard the Thai government tries, the shadow gambling business will not be eradicated. There are many things in the world that are controlled by organized crime groups. In order to force them to give up their bread, a lot of blood will have to be spilled. I think that no one will just go for such measures.

Yes, it is hard to eradicate the illegal gambling business because it makes many people try to win money. Many of them depend on illegal gambling to make money, and many of them desperate to search for a job in their city, so they use gambling to make money. I think the illegal gambling bribe the officials to protect their business, so they do not get any problem with the law or the police. If we talk about an illegal business, there will be many people who will be related to that business.

And that would be mostly in officials on who would be the one behind of those illegal gambling places.If not, they would really just simply let those places operate as long they
would really be given out some bribe which isnt something new into this world and this doesnt only exist on movies but rather in reality since the beginning of time.
Getting rid of illegal things completely is on that impossible side.They can regulate and prohibit all they want but still there would be that will be running off
without any jurisdiction or control.

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Quote from: madnessteat on January 24, 2021, 10:07:03 AM

No matter how hard the Thai government tries, the shadow gambling business will not be eradicated.

Precisely. This problem is really a big one since there are many influence that holds the government, they'll have a lots of difficulties to eradicate this kind of activities.

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There are many things in the world that are controlled by organized crime groups.

Those mafias are also connected with high rank politicians or high rank police officials.

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In order to force them to give up their bread, a lot of blood will have to be spilled. I think that no one will just go for such measures.

Or, the chance that money will speak louder than any government rules and regulations, someone who can deal underground just to
protect those illegal gambling businesses.

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Quote from: Janation on January 24, 2021, 07:25:13 AM

Will these people accept with the regulation though?

People would think that the government wanted that taxes so bad that is why they are planning this all ahead. In my opinion it is really necessary for them to point out these illegal gambling places as there are a lot of people making these secret bets and secret profits that is like an underground gambling place to me. They need to address if they have a problem, and it is necessary for strict protocols.

What's ideal is that they would, in order to continue such activity. Well, that's also the thing, if you want to do something that is not legal to a country, whether you will push your luck to continue it despite of the restrictions and eventually be fined for it, or just accept the fact that almost everything is now being taxed in order to continue playing. Even in my country only few gambling games are allowed such as lotteries and those in casinos, but those are taxed. But since people are still buying it, I guess it won't be that much of a bad thing than to be forced to stop playing permanently.

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Quote from: madnessteat on January 24, 2021, 10:07:03 AM

No matter how hard the Thai government tries, the shadow gambling business will not be eradicated. There are many things in the world that are controlled by organized crime groups. In order to force them to give up their bread, a lot of blood will have to be spilled. I think that no one will just go for such measures.

Yes, it is hard to eradicate the illegal gambling business because it makes many people try to win money. Many of them depend on illegal gambling to make money, and many of them desperate to search for a job in their city, so they use gambling to make money. I think the illegal gambling bribe the officials to protect their business, so they do not get any problem with the law or the police. If we talk about an illegal business, there will be many people who will be related to that business.

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Honestly, the COVID-19 as a reason to tackle illegal gambling doesn't sound realistic. So when people play legallly in a casino, they're not spreading COVID-19? And how about illegal online casinos? Clearly, they have nothing to do with COVID-19.
That being said, I think it's reasonable to minimise unnecessary contacts during the pandemic, and going to a casino is one of these things that should be put on pause. And the government should oppose any activities, legal and illegal, that contribute to the growth of COVID-19 cases. Meanwhile the gambling industry should be regulated, so that the state gets the revenue and people get to gamble without being criminals.

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No matter how hard the Thai government tries, the shadow gambling business will not be eradicated. There are many things in the world that are controlled by organized crime groups. In order to force them to give up their bread, a lot of blood will have to be spilled. I think that no one will just go for such measures.

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Will these people accept with the regulation though?

People would think that the government wanted that taxes so bad that is why they are planning this all ahead. In my opinion it is really necessary for them to point out these illegal gambling places as there are a lot of people making these secret bets and secret profits that is like an underground gambling place to me. They need to address if they have a problem, and it is necessary for strict protocols.

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It is better to stop all illegal gambling activities in every country because it is possible to not follow also the guidelines about health now like we are in the Pandemic that high chances to get the virus if the people are crowded
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I think we all know that the Covid argument here is just pretextual. The state is losing millions of dollars in tax revenue due to illegal gambling, and of course they don't want to miss out on that.
Covid is, of course, a great reason to get the broadest possible support among the population for the measures taken.

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Legalised some gambling platform will be the solution here. Cracking down on illegal gambling won't be the solution as it will just pop up and move to other places and it's going to be very difficult for the government to come and stop all those illegal gambling. Also the issue of corruption, for sure this illegal operators are not afraid because maybe some big politician or corrupt police officials are behind the operations. So it's better to just legalised some form of gambling, win win for the government and the gamblers.

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Illegal gambling is the main target of the government because it steals some of the revenue of the legal gambling owned by such authorities related to the government and mostly those illegal gambling don't have any health restrictions which is really required for every casino to implement. Gambling is such a good business and a good thing to make our economy bring back to normal because of its high tax.

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Quote from: robelneo on January 24, 2021, 01:00:53 AM

Illegal gambling is the concern of all countries because it deprives the government of revenues and since they are not bound by any laws they can break any laws even allowing underage to play and besides illegal gambling is the cash cows of corrupt government officials, they could be one of the reasons why there are spread of Covid in Thailand because they are not bound by any laws.

Exactly, that's why we should always stick on the gambling sites that have a license because they had the authorization to operate gambling that bound to the country's laws. This is the most problem by the country and I think not the only the government of Thailand, even in Indonesia they are very strict on it.

It's prone to fraud if we tolerate gambling sites that didn't have a license to operate, they can manipulate their system and I guess the provably fair system will not work once they are no licensed.

Regarding land-based gambling, if they don't want to legalize all forms of gambling it means they don't want gambling tolerated in their country and that is their jurisdiction, and even us we have nothing to do.

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Quote from: fiulpro on January 23, 2021, 02:37:46 PM

Now let's look at some quote taken from google :

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There is a lot of gambling in Thailand. An estimated 70 percent of adults gamble regularly, and the total value added involved is huge—possibly over 200 billion baht a year. With some small exceptions, all of this gambling activity is illegal.

That's a big figure, the Thailand government should make the right move and convert that figure in their favor and create a revenue stream, these illegal gambling is robbing the government of the much needed revenue and id it's true that contribute to the spread of CoVid then they have a big reason to crack these illegal gambling down.

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Since most of it is illegal, those casinos have no right to be operating. The government probably wants to make it legal to tax the so it's going to be a win-win. I believe that people would have more confidence in the casinos if it's registered. If it doesn't observe the right precautionary approach to prevent the spreading of the virus, then it's the establishment's fault.

Probably there are a lot more not yet discovered but that's what makes the gambling area even more enticing. A lot of VIP gamblers would sure to go there. Maybe that's the reason why they don't want to go legal.

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Looking at Thailands total covid cases including the active and deaths statistics, I can say that they are good in fighting against it. But recently the spike is noticeable.

And if they are thinking that illegal gambling operations are the ones that's helping to spread the virus quickly, it is two birds with one stone that they do.

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Illegal gambling is the concern of all countries because it deprives the government of revenues and since they are not bound by any laws they can break any laws even allowing underage to play and besides illegal gambling is the cash cows of corrupt government officials, they could be one of the reasons why there are spread of Covid in Thailand because they are not bound by any laws.

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Quote from: fiulpro on January 23, 2021, 02:37:46 PM

What do you think ?
Should they make reforms before shutting down the whole thing ? I think this could benefit people and the government as a whole.

There should be at least some reconsideration on how much reductions or taxes that would really be imposed or applied.They should consider also the small ones
rather than focusing solely on bigger to make some big deductions.It will surely hurt up even though it does have viable positive effects on the country as a whole
when it comes to progress and development but if they wont really be making some changes then those business owners wouldnt have a choice.
On other thing about saying that gambling places are source of covid, ? well thats have some points but to look on other side of the world where
gambling physical places had already opened but of course they do really follow strict health protocol.

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Quote from: shield132 on January 23, 2021, 04:26:31 PM

it's hard for me to believe that people go in underground casinos because nowadays online gambling is highly developed and popular too,

If you will read the article, you can picture out that gambling sessions there really happens in a certain place.

Since the TH government will now officially seek measures and shutdown those illegal gamblers, it means there are reports about it that are valid and confirmed. Maybe in your country, that wasn't the situation but in Thailand, there are lots of violators, not just because they are gambling illegally but they disregard the health protocols about the Covid-19.

Quote from: Dutchyyy on January 23, 2021, 07:14:55 PM

If the COVID is the primary concern, they must stop everything, not just illegal gambling.

Probably they are working on it. It's difficult to tackle down other problems at the same time when people themselves aren't cooperating.

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