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It is better to stop all illegal gambling activities in every country because it is possible to not follow also the guidelines about health now like we are in the Pandemic that high chances to get the virus if the people are crowded and It is sure that they want to be legal those illegal because the tax they gets and I hope the funds or tax they use will be use in right not for their own sake.

Funny you mentioned the pandemic because I think, the people who organize illegal gambling are very resourceful at this times right now of social distancing and lockdowns. I just saw on facebook the other day a live post and it is a cockfight being televised live. The bets are even shown on the screen. I was amused at first and just continued my merry browsing on social media but then I realized that there is gambling involved and it made me wonder how they can place their bets on facebook or maybe on some other website.

I've seen this everyday well in cockfight it was totally illegal when you don't have papers but it seems legit because commentators always said those legal operators of cockfight and that's where they getting their live battle well when it comes to bet there's an application that you can visit where an "agent" will invite you so you could play and there's are ways for you whenever you want to cash in and bitcoin is a payment method too because i've been playing this but it's not quite entertainment coz i felt bad for those cock fighting to death , and there a lot of circumstancing fake live with cockfight and now that's illegal because they collecting videos and they will live in into their own page this is the time that the owner knew which cock is going to win because when you're going to live in facebook you can always set it into delayed and that's people will be lossing.

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It is better to stop all illegal gambling activities in every country because it is possible to not follow also the guidelines about health now like we are in the Pandemic that high chances to get the virus if the people are crowded and It is sure that they want to be legal those illegal because the tax they gets and I hope the funds or tax they use will be use in right not for their own sake.

Funny you mentioned the pandemic because I think, the people who organize illegal gambling are very resourceful at this times right now of social distancing and lockdowns. I just saw on facebook the other day a live post and it is a cockfight being televised live. The bets are even shown on the screen. I was amused at first and just continued my merry browsing on social media but then I realized that there is gambling involved and it made me wonder how they can place their bets on facebook or maybe on some other website.

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Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

Which shows a lack of understanding about human nature, it is impossible to stop people from gambling and any kind of prohibition will just create black markets in which people are simply going to be scammed or be abused, if they instead legalize the industry not only they can obtain taxes out of it but they can also protect their players, to me this shows very clearly that it is way better to regulate a market than it is to prohibit it which is what they are trying to do.

illegal or not, people will not stop gamble all of a sudden. but the Thailand government has to start somewhere that these casinos will negotiate til they could come up an agreement.

they would prefer to continue their business than starting over again it more manageable for both parties. Both are goin to be happy that way, the governments gets what they want and the casino as well.

Illegal means they don't have the license to operate and they don't report to the government, what the government would only want is to monitor the gambling sites if it's operating within the standards set by the regulators and to get the right amount of tax for the government.

They should comply as illegal gives a high risk when operating this kind of business.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 24, 2021, 10:25:10 PM

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 10:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

Which shows a lack of understanding about human nature, it is impossible to stop people from gambling and any kind of prohibition will just create black markets in which people are simply going to be scammed or be abused, if they instead legalize the industry not only they can obtain taxes out of it but they can also protect their players, to me this shows very clearly that it is way better to regulate a market than it is to prohibit it which is what they are trying to do.

illegal or not, people will not stop gamble all of a sudden. but the Thailand government has to start somewhere that these casinos will negotiate til they could come up an agreement.

they would prefer to continue their business than starting over again it more manageable for both parties. Both are goin to be happy that way, the governments gets what they want and the casino as well.

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Instead of stopping, better to find ways or solutions in implementing rules that will benefits

both sides, battling from illegal gambling would be a tough job but negotiating and have a good open forum on this

matter may help, providing better and proper law that will address this issue is better in solving illegal gambling activities

from the government jurisdiction.

Quote from: Silberman on February 24, 2021, 10:25:10 PM

Which shows a lack of understanding about human nature, it is impossible to stop people from gambling and any kind of prohibition will just create black markets in which people are simply going to be scammed or be abused, if they instead legalize the industry not only they can obtain taxes out of it but they can also protect their players, to me this shows very clearly that it is way better to regulate a market than it is to prohibit it which is what they are trying to do.

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 25, 2021, 10:43:15 PM

Anything which is under prohibition attracts a lot of curiosity and the people are more drawn in to it. Ideally they should make the gambling industry legal and regulate it. Also, prohibitions don't work nowadays, when the industry is perfectly legal in neighboring countries. The Thai citizens can just travel to the neighboring nations and visit the casinos which are operating there. Now the only losers are the Thai government, who will lose out of the tax revenues from the casinos and job creation.

Thai government needs to consider every factors before making any rules that may pushed their citizen to travel away just to gamble,
imagine those possible taxes that instead the government enjoy it will be move away from their jurisdiction.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 24, 2021, 10:25:10 PM

Which shows a lack of understanding about human nature, it is impossible to stop people from gambling and any kind of prohibition will just create black markets in which people are simply going to be scammed or be abused, if they instead legalize the industry not only they can obtain taxes out of it but they can also protect their players, to me this shows very clearly that it is way better to regulate a market than it is to prohibit it which is what they are trying to do.

Anything which is under prohibition attracts a lot of curiosity and the people are more drawn in to it. Ideally they should make the gambling industry legal and regulate it. Also, prohibitions don't work nowadays, when the industry is perfectly legal in neighboring countries. The Thai citizens can just travel to the neighboring nations and visit the casinos which are operating there. Now the only losers are the Thai government, who will lose out of the tax revenues from the casinos and job creation.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 10:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

Which shows a lack of understanding about human nature, it is impossible to stop people from gambling and any kind of prohibition will just create black markets in which people are simply going to be scammed or be abused, if they instead legalize the industry not only they can obtain taxes out of it but they can also protect their players, to me this shows very clearly that it is way better to regulate a market than it is to prohibit it which is what they are trying to do.

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Quote from: virasisog on February 22, 2021, 02:51:14 AM

Given the current situation, lesser job opportunities, and most recreational activities prohibited, it is unavoidable for people to find other means to earn and have fun. Illegal gambling activities also increase in our country and it even caused a break out during the lockdown period. No matter what amendment the government does gambling operators will always find ways to continue their business. It is impossible to eradicate such activity since some illegal gambling businesses are handled by those who are in position or those who have influence, this is the case in our country which I think is the same case as other countries.

Regulated gambling industry can be a big boon to the economy. It will make sure that a majority of those who indulge in gambling are the rich, who can afford to spend their money in casinos. Also, the gambling industry employs a lot of people and in case this sector is regulated then it can help on brining down the unemployment rate and create a lot of direct/indirect jobs. And finally, if the industry is legalized and regulated, then it can give a boost to the tourism industry as well.

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Quote from: virasisog on February 22, 2021, 02:51:14 AM

Given the current situation, lesser job opportunities, and most recreational activities prohibited, it is unavoidable for people to find other means to earn and have fun. Illegal gambling activities also increase in our country and it even caused a break out during the lockdown period. No matter what amendment the government does gambling operators will always find ways to continue their business. It is impossible to eradicate such activity since some illegal gambling businesses are handled by those who are in position or those who have influence, this is the case in our country which I think is the same case as other countries.

Yes illegal activity cannot be eliminated so easily, it is much harder this time because of pandemic, I think they should create another branch of their government in order for them to stop it and local government organization will need to strengthen the rules and regulations, many illegal gambling has been created this 2020 because many people wants to have an extra money or they just got bored and they want to gamble if that 70% of the population is gambler if that is true it will be a serious problem maybe they already increase the taxes on its legal casinos that's why many people created their own so that they will be exempt from taxes.

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Given the current situation, lesser job opportunities, and most recreational activities prohibited, it is unavoidable for people to find other means to earn and have fun. Illegal gambling activities also increase in our country and it even caused a break out during the lockdown period. No matter what amendment the government does gambling operators will always find ways to continue their business. It is impossible to eradicate such activity since some illegal gambling businesses are handled by those who are in position or those who have influence, this is the case in our country which I think is the same case as other countries.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on February 20, 2021, 05:28:45 PM

In my country, illegal gambling, prostitution, child trafficking, drug abuse quite possibly graft and corruption are all played by the same hands within the same syndicate groups. Thailand government should spend more time and money in acquiring intelligence which may lead them to the roots of the problem like what my country did, otherwise you can't expect it to be fixed.

It is not a surprise if all of that things control the syndicate groups because that business earns them bigger money. That is happening in many countries, not just in your country. But it is difficult to search for the roots of the problem, as many people who use that illegal gambling site will not tell the presence of the place if they do not get caught by the raid.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 10:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country.

Indeed insane number of population indulged in gambling if that number if right and it shows the culture more than anything of the country, if there were enough jobs people won't be involved into gambling and more specifically illegal gambling so much. never heard of any crisis in Thailand and in fact used to think of Thailand as a good tourism country but this has changed my view.

Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 10:52:27 AM

The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

Yes, imposing taxes on illegal gambling and making it legal would be a good choice because that makes gambling less popular and if still the insane number of gamblers exist then the government will earn huge taxes at least.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 17, 2021, 03:29:12 PM

Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 10:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.
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Well, in Venezuela they banned traditional casinos, currently there are no casinos, but people choose to enter social networks and find a way to have fun looking for slot games, if some casino sites knew of the great potential of the clients they have, they would advertise in brochures, radios Because it would be to enter the internet and the internet is not controlled by the government, there are a number of people with a lot of money who do not know how to spend it. And they are people who spent the whole day in the casino.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on February 20, 2021, 05:28:45 PM

In my country, illegal gambling, prostitution, child trafficking, drug abuse quite possibly graft and corruption are all played by the same hands within the same syndicate groups. Thailand government should spend more time and money in acquiring intelligence which may lead them to the roots of the problem like what my country did, otherwise you can't expect it to be fixed.

It is not a surprise if all of that things control the syndicate groups because that business earns them bigger money. That is happening in many countries, not just in your country. But it is difficult to search for the roots of the problem, as many people who use that illegal gambling site will not tell the presence of the place if they do not get caught by the raid.

It is probably the intuition of the illegal gamblers by not to tell the truth of course because it will use it against them. It is so sad to think of the fact that many people are started to get into illegal gambling just because they are not contented to the earnings or profit they made in just simply playing simple and legal gambling yet many people always thought of the greed of having a large amount of earnings. We all know that our government are actually aware of it but rather not to focus on it because at some point they are also part of it sometimes because they can gain a lot of money there. It is my opinion and thinking.

I think we can not blame them as they want to get more money for their lives, but unfortunately, they use the wrong way and never know if they can make money or lose that money. Greed and having a big passion for making money will be on their mind, and if they can not realize that wrong way, they will drag deeper without getting a way out. Maybe the government still focuses on solving the pandemic's problem, but before this pandemic attacks, I think the government is already thinking about it.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on February 20, 2021, 05:28:45 PM

In my country, illegal gambling, prostitution, child trafficking, drug abuse quite possibly graft and corruption are all played by the same hands within the same syndicate groups. Thailand government should spend more time and money in acquiring intelligence which may lead them to the roots of the problem like what my country did, otherwise you can't expect it to be fixed.

It is not a surprise if all of that things control the syndicate groups because that business earns them bigger money. That is happening in many countries, not just in your country. But it is difficult to search for the roots of the problem, as many people who use that illegal gambling site will not tell the presence of the place if they do not get caught by the raid.

It is probably the intuition of the illegal gamblers by not to tell the truth of course because it will use it against them. It is so sad to think of the fact that many people are started to get into illegal gambling just because they are not contented to the earnings or profit they made in just simply playing simple and legal gambling yet many people always thought of the greed of having a large amount of earnings. We all know that our government are actually aware of it but rather not to focus on it because at some point they are also part of it sometimes because they can gain a lot of money there. It is my opinion and thinking.

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Quote from: Bitcoinislife09 on February 17, 2021, 01:17:20 AM

If they having a problem in quarantine to prevent the COVID-19 from spreading the virus in Thailand they should definitely close every possible business that is not necessary just to contain or quarantine the virus. But they should manage to close all of the illegal gambling first before closing the legal gambling businesses. Legal gambling casinos might comply to open but it seems good since the government is thinking to close this casino because of the pandemic in other countries mostly governments would just care about the money.

Unfortunately this is not the way it happens, governments for the most part always end up punishing the same people over and over again and those are the ones that comply with the law, so while casino owners that are responsible and that obey the law are losing a fortune while they keep their doors closed, illegal casinos keep operating and getting profits as now they do not have the competition of legal casinos, they do not have to pay taxes and they only have to bribe a few corrupt politicians to keep their doors open while the pandemic ravages the country.

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I doubt the government will be able to completely eradicate illegal gambling. Strict actions will only prevent them for few days or month, later on they will again pop up. The biggest problem is that these locations are now turning into COVID hotspot, which for me is a big issue. Therefore for the time being the government should take strict action against them.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on February 20, 2021, 05:28:45 PM

In my country, illegal gambling, prostitution, child trafficking, drug abuse quite possibly graft and corruption are all played by the same hands within the same syndicate groups. Thailand government should spend more time and money in acquiring intelligence which may lead them to the roots of the problem like what my country did, otherwise you can't expect it to be fixed.

They may have leads of where are those illegal gambling operators can be found. It's just if the assigned people can't also be trusted and just allows it for bribe, there's no hope for it.

Just as you've said, a lot of bad things happen and we don't have an idea what exactly is the real situation. But that's a good initiative to recognize these problems.

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In my country, illegal gambling, prostitution, child trafficking, drug abuse quite possibly graft and corruption are all played by the same hands within the same syndicate groups. Thailand government should spend more time and money in acquiring intelligence which may lead them to the roots of the problem like what my country did, otherwise you can't expect it to be fixed.

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