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Quote from: Janation on February 18, 2021, 01:26:29 AM

That would be really hard to accomplish.The same as corruption, I don't think it would be that easy to be able to take down these illegal gambling as there are a lot of people that for sure back them in these kinds of activities that might be a member of the government. In our country, gambling is not illegal but there are this illegal cockfighting and some of them could just get out because an officer knew them or someone close to these officers talk them out for their freedom.

70% of adult population were a huge number and Thailand would really get through a lot to tackle the problems of illegal gambling in their country. Gambling is addicting and no doubt that people will going to do the prohibited in their law to gamble. And to be honest it is a reality and even i could witness those kind of illegal gambling here in our country, in our society. Our local governments has a law that prohibiting a cockfighting but then those gamblers couldn't be controlled.

I think we are in the same country.

Our local government banned cockfighting especially those that are doing their meetups privately. And with the pandemic that we have right now, it is prohibited with a double case in your hands if caught. Still, there are a lot of people doing that and the sad part is that even teenagers are going in there and my parents told me about a underage boys caught by the police in that meetup.

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Quote from: ice098 on February 18, 2021, 07:12:31 AM

Quote from: Janation on February 18, 2021, 01:26:29 AM

That would be really hard to accomplish.The same as corruption, I don't think it would be that easy to be able to take down these illegal gambling as there are a lot of people that for sure back them in these kinds of activities that might be a member of the government. In our country, gambling is not illegal but there are this illegal cockfighting and some of them could just get out because an officer knew them or someone close to these officers talk them out for their freedom.

70% of adult population were a huge number and Thailand would really get through a lot to tackle the problems of illegal gambling in their country. Gambling is addicting and no doubt that people will going to do the prohibited in their law to gamble. And to be honest it is a reality and even i could witness those kind of illegal gambling here in our country, in our society. Our local governments has a law that prohibiting a cockfighting but then those gamblers couldn't be controlled.

Well, not only Thailand, almost all countries are facing underground gambling activities, and despite the strict precautions, gambling continues to be very widespread in society, psychology of wanting to search for losses and gambling addiction has not really been solved yet. I think when the government bans more, gambling gets bigger, why don't the government try to legalize it as an activity, a service for many people? With strict tax regulations and control over the player's loss to the extent allowed, Thailand will surely solve the illegal gambling situation.

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Quote from: ice098 on February 18, 2021, 07:12:31 AM

70% of adult population were a huge number and Thailand would really get through a lot to tackle the problems of illegal gambling in their country. Gambling is addicting and no doubt that people will going to do the prohibited in their law to gamble. And to be honest it is a reality and even i could witness those kind of illegal gambling here in our country, in our society. Our local governments has a law that prohibiting a cockfighting but then those gamblers couldn't be controlled.

Whatever steps are taken by the Thai government, but completely eradicate gambling will not work because such activities are conducted away from the eyes of the government and control it is almost unreal. To conduct a search for the location of a gambling house, its elimination with the arrest of the founders can take months of work and to organize it in another place requires no more than a week.

We cannot expect 100% of the eradication because somewhere or other people would find it or will gamble in their own means only. Since they are attracted so much then it is bigger chance that it might not stop though restriction and strict law will help in reduction which is what eve the government officials would be looking.

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Quote from: ice098 on February 18, 2021, 07:12:31 AM

70% of adult population were a huge number and Thailand would really get through a lot to tackle the problems of illegal gambling in their country. Gambling is addicting and no doubt that people will going to do the prohibited in their law to gamble. And to be honest it is a reality and even i could witness those kind of illegal gambling here in our country, in our society. Our local governments has a law that prohibiting a cockfighting but then those gamblers couldn't be controlled.

Whatever steps are taken by the Thai government, but completely eradicate gambling will not work because such activities are conducted away from the eyes of the government and control it is almost unreal. To conduct a search for the location of a gambling house, its elimination with the arrest of the founders can take months of work and to organize it in another place requires no more than a week.

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Quote from: Janation on February 18, 2021, 01:26:29 AM

That would be really hard to accomplish.The same as corruption, I don't think it would be that easy to be able to take down these illegal gambling as there are a lot of people that for sure back them in these kinds of activities that might be a member of the government. In our country, gambling is not illegal but there are this illegal cockfighting and some of them could just get out because an officer knew them or someone close to these officers talk them out for their freedom.

70% of adult population were a huge number and Thailand would really get through a lot to tackle the problems of illegal gambling in their country. Gambling is addicting and no doubt that people will going to do the prohibited in their law to gamble. And to be honest it is a reality and even i could witness those kind of illegal gambling here in our country, in our society. Our local governments has a law that prohibiting a cockfighting but then those gamblers couldn't be controlled.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on February 05, 2021, 06:21:44 PM

Really? Where are you from?
How are you connected to internet, you are using a 3G or 4G mobile network with a smartphone?

I'm from the Philippines. I live in a province and our province doesn't entirely have mobile reception. Last November, a typhoon hugely affected our province and here in our place, the cell tower fell down. We don't have a signal for 3 months and just today, they fixed the cell tower and we just regained our signal.

When they are still fixing it. We usually go to this place on the mountainside just to access the internet. It is really hard especially for the students and for those people that needed it. We are far from the town where the signal is strong and we just have these places where the signal is strong and most of them are on the mountain or in a river dike which is far from here.

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Quote from: Mauser on February 14, 2021, 05:02:10 AM

The big problem is that we can't travel at the moment. If you really wanted to gamble you could have just gotten on to a plane to Macau and gamble legal. But right now we are stuck at home and using a casino locally might be illegal. So we are kind of forced into online gambling even though its illegal. Which makes it very hard for the government to control the Internet.

What do you mean that in your country gambling is illegal ? but Thailand only extend their measures from the Illegal gambling sites and stations but it is not illegal totally.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 11:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

Precisely. There are ways to reduce gambling, and if the stats are correct circa 70% of the entire population being involved in gambling, then this is clear call for immediate measures.

As long as legal gambling why does the government cares? they are only curious now because of the illegal gambling and not the whole institutions .

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Without knowing the situation, gambling in many parts of the world is tightly regulated and if Thailand was to take control over their situation, then it would need to take careful steps considering that the majority of the people will not be in favour.

People cannot do anything if the law will be implemented , people are tend to follow.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 17, 2021, 04:29:12 PM

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Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

That would be really hard to accomplish.

The same as corruption, I don't think it would be that easy to be able to take down these illegal gambling as there are a lot of people that for sure back them in these kinds of activities that might be a member of the government. In our country, gambling is not illegal but there are this illegal cockfighting and some of them could just get out because an officer knew them or someone close to these officers talk them out for their freedom.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 17, 2021, 04:29:12 PM

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

Gambling is one of those trades that you can't eradicate. Humans have been indulging in gambling for many thousands of years and just because the government makes it illegal, it won't vanish. If the involvement of criminal gangs is the main issue, then the government must work in that direction. Banning gambling all together in order to combat the gangs sounds like disproportionate as well as inefficient response. Essentially the government is trying to hide its incompetence in dealing with the gangs.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 11:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

Precisely. There are ways to reduce gambling, and if the stats are correct circa 70% of the entire population being involved in gambling, then this is clear call for immediate measures.

Without knowing the situation, gambling in many parts of the world is tightly regulated and if Thailand was to take control over their situation, then it would need to take careful steps considering that the majority of the people will not be in favour.

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Quote from: ecnalubma on February 17, 2021, 11:52:27 AM

Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

I don't know about 70% of the population, but a lot of people do gamble. In the history of Thailand there were times when gambling was legalized, but it did not last long. The Thai government is not interested in taxes as their main goal is to eradicate gambling, which should eventually lead to a reduction in the illegal income of criminal gangs.

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Quote from: KTChampions on February 14, 2021, 05:45:52 PM

The problem is that the Internet becomes more and more regulated every year and soon it will be necessary to create some new protocols for decentralized interaction of people. The existing methods for bypassing blocking are no longer enough. Perhaps the crypto will be the prototype for this new network.

Well blocking sites and messengers will never help because new ones are created daily and you cannot block all the new sites. Personally if you ask me I do not see any problem if people earning money are throwing in on the casino tables because it is their earned money and they should be allowed to do whatever they want.

Crypto has helped illegal gambling a lot, I am not saying bitcoin was made for illegal purposes but because of the decentralized nature it somehow helped fueling the illegal gambling. Even today with so much control one can just make an account on any of the gambling casinos, make their bets and if the casino is honest they don't even ask any questions to approve massive amounts of withdrawals.

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Is it true that 70% of all adults in Thailand are gamblers? If the statistic is true then definitely Thailand is a gamblers country. The existing problem of their government about illegal gambling is an indication that they are lacks with their regulations, but if the government wants to take advantage of the situation they can legalised those gamblings or casinos and impose proper tax from them.

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Fortunately, we have online gambling or sports betting websites that we can use to bet on our favorite sports or visit the crypto gambling site, so we can still playing gambling from home. That will be safe for us as we do not have to go to other places, and we do not have to worry about the government's regulations as they will hard to control their people to gambling using the internet.

The problem is that the Internet becomes more and more regulated every year and soon it will be necessary to create some new protocols for decentralized interaction of people. The existing methods for bypassing blocking are no longer enough. Perhaps the crypto will be the prototype for this new network.

I do not worry about that because as long as we can access VPN, we can browse any website without a problem, even if in my country, the government blocks some sites. If people can not bypassing the blocking, that is only temporary because I am sure that some high skills people will figure out how to bypass the blocks. The crypto itself will adapt to the situation, so we can still use crypto as usual. We can still play gambling with the VPN's help, so it does not affect people.

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If they having a problem in quarantine to prevent the COVID-19 from spreading the virus in Thailand they should definitely close every possible business that is not necessary just to contain or quarantine the virus. But they should manage to close all of the illegal gambling first before closing the legal gambling businesses. Legal gambling casinos might comply to open but it seems good since the government is thinking to close this casino because of the pandemic in other countries mostly governments would just care about the money.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 12, 2021, 06:00:10 PM

definitely, govt cant get tax the black market. but the govt should reconsider how they approach the gambling community. they can always legalise it in a way, it is not too taxing for the owners as we are still in crisis. these business owners will be forced to follow the legal process in order to continue their business. so it is a win-win situation for the govt and business owners. they need to thrive both during these times to support their people.

It's kind of a difficult situation for the government of Thailand, while I can understand why they may want to close down casinos that are not following their regulations a good compromise could be to allow those casinos to keep operating as long as they began to pay their taxes and they followed all the necessary regulations that every single casino needs to adhere in the country, but we must understand that many if not all of those that operate those illegal casinos are not interested in complying and if you give them a chance they will just disappear and create another casino as soon as they have the chance.

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Quote from: Wexnident on February 14, 2021, 03:52:40 AM

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I think the owners better not be forced to follow the legal process, but the government can provide a solution that will provide them with benefits by getting legal with the government. It is like legalizing their business by following the government's procedure so that they can run their business without worry. Legal can prevent bribing corrupt officials, and they can give the money for paying the tax. The government needs to find ways to benefit illegal gambling to follow them, and the government can get more taxes. If much illegal gambling can follow the government's suggestions, it can give the country the income to help them survive in these times.

I think it isn't an issue of money or anything, just of morality itself. Not from Thailand, but I suppose by the fact that they haven't legalized allowing casinos under their country, it seems to me that the government there generally frowns upon it, whether it could bring profit or not isn't really a matter they would take into account. Although I do agree with legalizing it instead of letting it stay as illegal, it also means that they basically gave in to the community of gamblers, which may paint them as an irresponsible government (at least, in their own eyes).

If you're talking about morality driven by religious views in the country - then Thailand shouldn't be against gambling. In Thailand, the vast majority of people follow Buddhism, which, unlike Islam, doesn't forbid gambling.

If you mean morality in the sense that the government takes care of citizens and worries about their financial state, emotional health, then why don't they ban alcohol instead? It literally kills people, undermines their health, and accounts for numerous accidents. As for me, alcohol abuse is way more common and much worse, than gambling.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 14, 2021, 11:16:55 AM

Fortunately, we have online gambling or sports betting websites that we can use to bet on our favorite sports or visit the crypto gambling site, so we can still playing gambling from home. That will be safe for us as we do not have to go to other places, and we do not have to worry about the government's regulations as they will hard to control their people to gambling using the internet.

The problem is that the Internet becomes more and more regulated every year and soon it will be necessary to create some new protocols for decentralized interaction of people. The existing methods for bypassing blocking are no longer enough. Perhaps the crypto will be the prototype for this new network.

Censorship if the government insist to add more strict rules is very possible, Internet access are not exempted if the government really take it seriously.

Gambling though is a big market and adding more rules to really combat those illegal facilitator needs to have a strong iron hands.

If Thai's leadership are serious about this, they can use all channels of the government to start tracking those onshore and offshore gambling activities government if they are really going to bring this down have all the means and power inside their own country.

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Casinos are illegal not only in Thailand but in many countries of the world gamblers gamble to meet their social and economic needs if you think from the person's place there are many benefits to gambling in a casino. There is no limit to participation or income in gambling there is no time constraint there is no such thing as hard work that is a person can earn a lot of money without going through any difficult rules. But the reality is that without gambling skills it can be detrimental and you can lose everything and become your own it is easier to deal with if the government has legitimacy.

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Quote from: Mauser on February 14, 2021, 05:02:10 AM

Quote from: Reatim on February 14, 2021, 12:18:38 AM

i believe that a country somewhere in Europe also has this same issue last year? when they are extending the Illegal gambling fight in their region?

though i cant remember it well and cant find the thread i'm sure European country is also moving in this actions.

Thailand Make it better in having this measures because many countries in Asia specially those who had Chinese Businesses or operators comes with illegal businesses also.

The big problem is that we can't travel at the moment. If you really wanted to gamble you could have just gotten on to a plane to Macau and gamble legal. But right now we are stuck at home and using a casino locally might be illegal. So we are kind of forced into online gambling even though its illegal. Which makes it very hard for the government to control the Internet.

Fortunately, we have online gambling or sports betting websites that we can use to bet on our favorite sports or visit the crypto gambling site, so we can still playing gambling from home. That will be safe for us as we do not have to go to other places, and we do not have to worry about the government's regulations as they will hard to control their people to gambling using the internet.

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