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Quote from: morvillz7z on February 11, 2022, 05:42:59 PM

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Where can we bet on predicting the correct score for the superbowl? I am not superstitious, however, I would like to make a bet on the Simpsons’ prediction on the Bengals winner with the correct of 34-31 hehehe. It appears that the show has predicted the superbowl correctly 3 times already according to social media.

DraftKings and FanDuel have and offer odds for correct score, the crypto sportsbooks popular in this forum probably don't, the ones that i checked didn't have it.

Simpsons' prediction at DK is valued at 81.00, pretty decent odds right there. Personally, i'd be looking at something like Rams 30:20 Bengals (@150), i think Rams win and cover comfortably. Tongue

I'll be rooting for Cincinnati, but I'm not going to place a bet on them. I think this is going to be a slaughter, TBH.

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'Mattress Mack' places record $5M bet on Bengals, has $9.5M total on Cincinnati to beat Rams

^ it's the Rams! Grin

I feel like this dude is laundering money or something, the last two years he has bets (public ones) close to 20mil if not more...crazy.

WTF is up with mattress shops, is this really a thing? A buddy of mine recently mentioned it as if it's common knowledge that all mattress shops are fronts for money laundering. It makes sense in this case, I mean how many mattresses can this guy be selling in the "Houston area?" I reckon not enough to squander $10M a spots bet. Laundering money for the cartel would be my guess.

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If anyone is interested In a prop pool for the superbowl let me know. Strumming up interest here. Normal questions like over/under, total field goals, coin flip, etc.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 10, 2022, 10:40:45 PM

Where can we bet on predicting the correct score for the superbowl? I am not superstitious, however, I would like to make a bet on the Simpsons’ prediction on the Bengals winner with the correct of 34-31 hehehe. It appears that the show has predicted the superbowl correctly 3 times already according to social media.

DraftKings and FanDuel have and offer odds for correct score, the crypto sportsbooks popular in this forum probably don't, the ones that i checked didn't have it.

Simpsons' prediction at DK is valued at 81.00, pretty decent odds right there. Personally, i'd be looking at something like Rams 30:20 Bengals (@150), i think Rams win and cover comfortably. Tongue

'Mattress Mack' places record $5M bet on Bengals, has $9.5M total on Cincinnati to beat Rams

^ it's the Rams! Grin

I feel like this dude is laundering money or something, the last two years he has bets (public ones) close to 20mil if not more...crazy.

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Where can we bet on predicting the correct score for the superbowl? I am not superstitious, however, I would like to make a bet on the Simpsons’ prediction on the Bengals winner with the correct of 34-31 hehehe. It appears that the show has predicted the superbowl correctly 3 times already according to social media.

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 10, 2022, 05:22:10 PM

Quote from: South Park on February 10, 2022, 05:06:04 PM

But at this point all of this is nothing more but baseless speculation.

Dude has everything. Goes out on top. GOAT forever.

Versus gambling for one more SB ring or a possible injury or just having a bad frustrating season and tarnishing his stats/reputation/etc.

I hope Gisele puts her foot down and keeps him retired. As for money, he can still make many millions with ads and merchandise and maybe working in broadcasting or coaching or whatever tickles him.

All true and valid points but logic sometimes doesn't come into play when pride and competitiveness comes into the equation.

In the end I bet he will choose with emotions.

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Quote from: South Park on February 10, 2022, 05:06:04 PM

But at this point all of this is nothing more but baseless speculation.

Dude has everything. Goes out on top. GOAT forever.

Versus gambling for one more SB ring or a possible injury or just having a bad frustrating season and tarnishing his stats/reputation/etc.

I hope Gisele puts her foot down and keeps him retired. As for money, he can still make many millions with ads and merchandise and maybe working in broadcasting or coaching or whatever tickles him.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 10, 2022, 08:56:33 AM

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 09, 2022, 08:56:25 AM

I don’t think money has anything to do with Brady coming back what so ever. In fact Brady has been one of the most reasonable professional athletes ever when it came to contracts, often taking less so that others could have more / be signed to make the team more competitive. I personally really hope he comes back for one more.

We will have to wait and see what happens, TB will lose a lot of free agents this year, and without Brady there then most of them will not really see a reason to stay, Brady had another year on his contract so maybe this is his way of forcing his way out? Brady ‘retires’ and then once TB has used most of their cap available he comes back, so TB has to either cut him or trade him, now since Brady is not interested in a rebuild then this means that whatever team he is interested on playing must be aware of his intentions and keep some cap money available and the QB position free for the eventual arrival of Brady, it is too convoluted but it could be what is happening.

Personally I kind of doubt that would be how the situation would play out. If they owned his rights I can’t ever see them trading him, why would they. I’m pretty sure you are allowed to go over the salary cap and pay a luxury tax, and if Brady is to play he’d be worth every penny of that.

Yet another scenario is one that I always thought Brady may try to do but never did, what if Brady decided to play for the NFL vet minimum? The Bucs paid 25 millions last year to Brady but with some cap magic they reduced that number, if Brady went for SB or Bust mode then the vet minimum, which is barely above one million dollars per season for a veteran like him, could allow the Bucs to keep several key players.

And if they did the same as the Rams and exchanged their first draft picks for players which could make an impact now then Brady could remain with the Bucs for one more season, and from the perspective of the Bucs it is not a bad deal, as they do not really know how long it would take for them to rebuild the team, while they may have a legitimate chance to win another SB with Brady.

But at this point all of this is nothing more but baseless speculation.

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Quote from: South Park on February 09, 2022, 04:17:17 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 09, 2022, 01:41:25 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 08, 2022, 11:30:21 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

Does Brady’s being honest imply that he has really retired as he has announced in social media or does this imply that he does not know what he will feel in 6 months and he will take things as they come?

In any case, what are everyone’s bets for the superbowl? I want to take everyone’s advice and combine all of your analysis in sportsbet.io’s bet builder hehehehehe.

@South Park. I reckon Brady’s activities for the next 6 months might give everyone a clue if he is planning on going back or not.

I'm leaning Bengals but that may just be because I'm rooting for them.

Pretty evenly matched teams except I think the Bengals receivers have a little more depth and the rams have a better pass rush and of course burrows can run.

I also want the Bengals to win this SB, more than anything because of Burrow, the injury he had last year was awful and there were many doubts about whether he will return and be the same after the injury, and if anything he was even better, so it would be an amazing story to suffer a season-ending injury one year and then win the SB the very next year.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 09, 2022, 08:56:25 AM

I don’t think money has anything to do with Brady coming back what so ever. In fact Brady has been one of the most reasonable professional athletes ever when it came to contracts, often taking less so that others could have more / be signed to make the team more competitive. I personally really hope he comes back for one more.

We will have to wait and see what happens, TB will lose a lot of free agents this year, and without Brady there then most of them will not really see a reason to stay, Brady had another year on his contract so maybe this is his way of forcing his way out? Brady ‘retires’ and then once TB has used most of their cap available he comes back, so TB has to either cut him or trade him, now since Brady is not interested in a rebuild then this means that whatever team he is interested on playing must be aware of his intentions and keep some cap money available and the QB position free for the eventual arrival of Brady, it is too convoluted but it could be what is happening.

Personally I kind of doubt that would be how the situation would play out. If they owned his rights I can’t ever see them trading him, why would they. I’m pretty sure you are allowed to go over the salary cap and pay a luxury tax, and if Brady is to play he’d be worth every penny of that.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 09, 2022, 01:41:25 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 08, 2022, 11:30:21 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

Does Brady’s being honest imply that he has really retired as he has announced in social media or does this imply that he does not know what he will feel in 6 months and he will take things as they come?

In any case, what are everyone’s bets for the superbowl? I want to take everyone’s advice and combine all of your analysis in sportsbet.io’s bet builder hehehehehe.

@South Park. I reckon Brady’s activities for the next 6 months might give everyone a clue if he is planning on going back or not.

I'm leaning Bengals but that may just be because I'm rooting for them.

Pretty evenly matched teams except I think the Bengals receivers have a little more depth and the rams have a better pass rush and of course burrows can run.

I also want the Bengals to win this SB, more than anything because of Burrow, the injury he had last year was awful and there were many doubts about whether he will return and be the same after the injury, and if anything he was even better, so it would be an amazing story to suffer a season-ending injury one year and then win the SB the very next year.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 09, 2022, 08:56:25 AM

I don’t think money has anything to do with Brady coming back what so ever. In fact Brady has been one of the most reasonable professional athletes ever when it came to contracts, often taking less so that others could have more / be signed to make the team more competitive. I personally really hope he comes back for one more.

We will have to wait and see what happens, TB will lose a lot of free agents this year, and without Brady there then most of them will not really see a reason to stay, Brady had another year on his contract so maybe this is his way of forcing his way out? Brady ‘retires’ and then once TB has used most of their cap available he comes back, so TB has to either cut him or trade him, now since Brady is not interested in a rebuild then this means that whatever team he is interested on playing must be aware of his intentions and keep some cap money available and the QB position free for the eventual arrival of Brady, it is too convoluted but it could be what is happening.

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Hey guys - Wheelz and I set up stuff each Super Bowl like Prop Bets and Super Bowl Squares. The Prop-bet game is a sheet of about 20-30- questions such as things like which team will win the SB, heads or tails for opening coin toss, will the national anthem run longer than 3 mns and 30 seconds, will the Rams running backs rush for over 60 yards, Will Joe Burrow pass over or under 300 yards etc etc. Normally we do something like 50 bucks which goes in to the pool and whomever gets the most questions right wins the pot.

Squares is a fun way to cheaply "bet" on the games score each quarter, it's all random and normally we do like 5 bucks a square. At the end of each quarter you look at the games score and that shows who wins 25% of the pot. 4 quarters = 4 chances to win. It's all luck based, and it's cheap fun!

SB Squares explained- (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/super-bowl/2022/02/07/super-bowl-squares-2022-explanation-rules-how-play/6658786001/ )

Wheelz and I just wanted to offer this up if any of you are interested! Let me know here or via DM if you are interested

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 09, 2022, 08:56:25 AM

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Yeah, I'm sure if they dangle enough cash then he will play or maybe he just wants to hear the fans all yelling for him to play.

But in the interim he can slack off and work on getting that middle age paunch.

I don’t think money has anything to do with Brady coming back what so ever. In fact Brady has been one of the most reasonable professional athletes ever when it came to contracts, often taking less so that others could have more / be signed to make the team more competitive. I personally really hope he comes back for one more.

True that, but everyone has a number.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 09, 2022, 01:41:25 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 08, 2022, 11:30:21 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

Does Brady’s being honest imply that he has really retired as he has announced in social media or does this imply that he does not know what he will feel in 6 months and he will take things as they come?

In any case, what are everyone’s bets for the superbowl? I want to take everyone’s advice and combine all of your analysis in sportsbet.io’s bet builder hehehehehe.

@South Park. I reckon Brady’s activities for the next 6 months might give everyone a clue if he is planning on going back or not.

I'm leaning Bengals but that may just be because I'm rooting for them.

Pretty evenly matched teams except I think the Bengals receivers have a little more depth and the rams have a better pass rush and of course burrows can run.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 08, 2022, 11:35:15 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

He’s said on his podcast never say never, I believe today. He said he doesn’t foresee anything changing with his decision but let’s be honest you can’t ever say never for complete certainty. So he’s leaving a window open. Guy still a top 5 QB in the league and I imagine deep down he didn’t want to leave with so much left in the tank. We shall see.

In other news one of my appreciations of many of you whom frequent this thread is our mutual disdain for that clown Stephan A- any of you catch him threatening tiki barber lol https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/stephen-a-smith-slams-tiki-barber-over-giants-brian-flores-comments/amp/

Yeah, I'm sure if they dangle enough cash then he will play or maybe he just wants to hear the fans all yelling for him to play.

But in the interim he can slack off and work on getting that middle age paunch.

I don’t think money has anything to do with Brady coming back what so ever. In fact Brady has been one of the most reasonable professional athletes ever when it came to contracts, often taking less so that others could have more / be signed to make the team more competitive. I personally really hope he comes back for one more.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 08, 2022, 11:30:21 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

Does Brady’s being honest imply that he has really retired as he has announced in social media or does this imply that he does not know what he will feel in 6 months and he will take things as they come?

In any case, what are everyone’s bets for the superbowl? I want to take everyone’s advice and combine all of your analysis in sportsbet.io’s bet builder hehehehehe.

@South Park. I reckon Brady’s activities for the next 6 months might give everyone a clue if he is planning on going back or not.

I'm leaning Bengals but that may just be because I'm rooting for them.

Pretty evenly matched teams except I think the Bengals receivers have a little more depth and the rams have a better pass rush and of course burrows can run.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on February 08, 2022, 11:35:15 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

He’s said on his podcast never say never, I believe today. He said he doesn’t foresee anything changing with his decision but let’s be honest you can’t ever say never for complete certainty. So he’s leaving a window open. Guy still a top 5 QB in the league and I imagine deep down he didn’t want to leave with so much left in the tank. We shall see.

In other news one of my appreciations of many of you whom frequent this thread is our mutual disdain for that clown Stephan A- any of you catch him threatening tiki barber lol https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/stephen-a-smith-slams-tiki-barber-over-giants-brian-flores-comments/amp/

Yeah, I'm sure if they dangle enough cash then he will play or maybe he just wants to hear the fans all yelling for him to play.

But in the interim he can slack off and work on getting that middle age paunch.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

He’s said on his podcast never say never, I believe today. He said he doesn’t foresee anything changing with his decision but let’s be honest you can’t ever say never for complete certainty. So he’s leaving a window open. Guy still a top 5 QB in the league and I imagine deep down he didn’t want to leave with so much left in the tank. We shall see.

In other news one of my appreciations of many of you whom frequent this thread is our mutual disdain for that clown Stephan A- any of you catch him threatening tiki barber lol https://nypost.com/2022/02/07/stephen-a-smith-slams-tiki-barber-over-giants-brian-flores-comments/amp/

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

Does Brady’s being honest imply that he has really retired as he has announced in social media or does this imply that he does not know what he will feel in 6 months and he will take things as they come?

In any case, what are everyone’s bets for the superbowl? I want to take everyone’s advice and combine all of your analysis in sportsbet.io’s bet builder hehehehehe.

@South Park. I reckon Brady’s activities for the next 6 months might give everyone a clue if he is planning on going back or not.

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Quote from: Hueristic on February 07, 2022, 11:00:56 PM

I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

Brady’s work ethic was his secret weapon, while a cannon arm or mobility are more easily appreciated, as it is something we can easily see, the laser focus Brady had for football is what made him the best, so if he is not all-in as he was during his career then I think it is fine that he has chosen retirement, after all even if he could not get to go at the top like Elway by winning two SBs in a row he was still really good, and even if there was some decline on his play he was still top 5 or even a top 3 QB, which for a 44 year old is simply insane.

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I personally think Brady does not want to keep his off season regime up and knows he will not be as competitive if he plays next year without it.

He's a pretty honest guy IMO.

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@suchmoon. However, are those team names not similar to a tribute? Why would a team call themselves Redskins, Chiefs, Indians or Braves? I am quite certain no one had a meeting and agreed to adopt those team names to be racist. This woke culture might be created to make everyone confused and cause everyone to make opinions that escape logical perception.

Also, on football news, what does everyone speculate Tom Brady might do?

Could Tom Brady come out of retirement? When he was asked that question on his podcast, he gave something other than an emphatic “no.”

Asked by Jim Gray on his SiriusXM podcast about the possibility of coming out of retirement, Brady said he doesn’t anticipate it happening, but he can’t guarantee he won’t change his mind.

“You know, I’m just gonna take things as they come,” Brady said.

Brady saying he doesn’t know how he’ll feel in six months, when NFL teams are in training camp, is reminiscent of what Brett Favre said in an April 2008 interview with David Letterman, shortly after Favre announced his retirement. Favre left the door open just a crack to returning at that point, but at the start of training camp he did in fact return, and the Packers — having decided that Aaron Rodgers was their quarterback of the future — traded him to the Jets. Favre ended up playing a total of three more seasons, one with the Jets and two with the Vikings.

Source https://sports.yahoo.com/tom-brady-m-not-looking-021250107.html

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Quote from: DireWolfM14 on February 05, 2022, 01:29:35 PM

That's one I really don't get. I can see why some would find "Redskins" offensive base on the historic use of the word, but "Chiefs?" I can't think of how the word "chief" can be associated with negative connotations, regardless of the theme behind the choice. In my opinion "Chiefs" is a name that harkens to the history of the region where they're based, much like the 49ers.

I think it's more about the caricature-like symbols that accompany the name, rather than the name itself. Feather headdress, tomahawk chop, etc. If the teams were able to rebrand themselves and refocus their fans away from those stereotypes, I think the would be far less debate about the names. There are definitely ways to spin the PR machine to make those names sound as "tribute" or something like that.

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I've spoken to quite a few American Indians on this subject and ALL of them think its a stupid subject and couldn't care less and don't think any of those names are insulting.

They actually think that people arguing about it are idiots and should be arguing about important issues.

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