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What do you guys have for today's TNF?  I'm going with a prop bet this time Ryan Tannehill o1.5 passing TDs the Colts have a solid defense but I think he'll squeeze in at least two since he's 7-1 on that stat.

Hopefully my luck on prop bets turns for the better and get a second win here.

Just like the Falcons.


Edit : The Titans killed their chances with those brutal second half punts lol my prop bet could've hit too if it weren't for the Colts making penalties. 

Nobody tanks on purpose.  Hey Joe go in and throw a pick isn't a conversation that happens sorry it just doesn't.  Flaccos future is on the line, he isn't going to throw it away so the Jets can draft their future quarterback.  The only way a team can tank is by putting subpar players on the field that you know can't compete at this level and win.  The jets just suck simple as that.  A lot of bad teams lose leads late because...they suck.

I still think the Jets are tanking in their games and I do see why some think otherwise but if they do put in a second rate team then it would be too obvious and for sure we know they are tanking to lose games so they have to play like they are trying to win games with a full strength team but they can still tank to lose games. Seen it so many times in sports and of course the teams and coaches are always going to deny it.

Right now Gase’s job is to tank, he was brought obviously to improve the team and in that front he is terrible but if you want to tank there is no better coach in football, there are voices than want to fire him, but why? That will show the owners want a change in the direction the team has taken but a 0-16 season guarantees the first round pick and it seems that is what they want, however Lawrence has not declared himself eligible yet for the next draft and if he sees the NYJ are as bad as they are he may try to avoid them by remaining in college football or by pulling an Eli Manning.

This is why it bothers me the win NE got over NYJ so much, NE was in the perfect position to lose that game and NE is now 3-5, does it make a difference? No, NE most likely will not make it to the playoffs so a 2-6 record was better than a 3-5, while I think that even with a loss there it would have been impossible to get the NYJ out of the first pick of the draft a loss there would have allowed NE to dream with a top 5 pick and to be on the race for Justin Fields and now it seems even that possibility is fading away.

Going to have to disagree with you here.  There is no question that the Jets are actively trying to tank ( while trying to bring along Sam Darnold).  If the Jets were actually trying to win they wouldn't have let there stud WRs walk ( Robby Anderson ) nor would they have released Leveon Bell.  There's a reason they are letting 95 year old running back Frank Gore get the majority of the carries all year.  They are all in on the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes ( and can you blame them).

They do, but with fielding 3rd stringers, you can't build a team and have a somewhat good foundation for when/if Lawrence arrives, it's not like this is their last season and they will cease operations afterwards. Obviously tanking is nothing the NFL, media and fans will accept, so you have to do it through the back-door.

As for this Flacco pass, you don't tell him, "throw the ball deep into double coverage on next play", you just tell him, we don't want to win this game, take care of that.

I always remember the "suck for Luck" season from the Colts some years ago. They had their last game @Jags and Jags were priced around 1.50-ish, which was huge value imo, because there was no way the Colts would win this - they just didn't want to, because they would have lost their #1 pick to the Rams then. Colts lost all their games until week 14, but they were always playing their starters iirc. Beginning week 15 it was safe to win some games and they finished 2-14 then. During all those games they built or kept alive a foundation, which would help Luck the next season. Winning against TEN and HOU in week15/16 showed that the team is still intact and the quality is there, they just didn't want to win before. They finished 11-5 next season. A team that is just plain bad, won't go from 2-14 to 11-5 just like that with a rookie QB.

Now the Jets are way worse than the Colts have ever been, but you can't put a team full of scrubs and out of sync next to Lawrence. Then there is no need to even draft him.

They couldn't know there was that type of coverage before the snap, that decision to throw it was all on Flacco.  The way the coach would tank would be to play 3rd stringers which they aren't, they are playing 1s and 2s.  They are just a really bad team. Every year there are a couple of teams that battle for last place in every sport.  Its not tanking its just they have a bad team.

For the NYJ-NE game, I think this was a tanking job. It's not only about the players - where I agree they are not losing on purpose - but there are also the coaches, GM's and owners, who have their own agenda, which the players have to follow. (Coaches are also slaves of GM/owners in the end)

As morvillz7z wrote, that bomb Flacco threw with no urgency at all - isn't there the possibility he had to do it, because he was told to do so ? What I can imagine, is that you play hard for three quarters to see how good you really are and further improve looking at the future and building a team. Jets showed themselves they are capable of beating NE, but to not lose the #1 pick, they tanked Q4 then. And this was ordered by GM/owners, where the coaches/players have no choice then but to follow, because the ones who pay have the final say.

I know this a bold statement/theory, but it's what I would do, if I was super high on Trevor Lawrence as a GM/owner. He will fail at the Jets or the Jets will fail to develop him properly, but you have to try at least^^

You'd think that they were tanking but the players do not purposely lose games.  Their careers are on the line, the players that screw up have a better chance of being cut or when they hit free agency not get picked up.  Now if the coach put in the practice squad and not the 1s then yeah its tanking.  I think they just suck that bad lol.

I agree but didn't want to say that they tanked in the last quarter to lose the game on purpose but I do believe that this does go on in sports so teams can get early draft picks which is BS for us bettors. Anyway I was happy they covered the spread as that's what I was more confident about.

Yeah, they might as well draft Trevor Lawrence now and ship Darnell out of town, its inevitable at this point.  That was a terrible breakdown as everything they needed to do to lose all happened.  Cant see them winning a game from here on out.  Will be on the short list to go 0-16 (if they finish the NFL season  )

I think Jets played an excellent 4th quarter, that was textbook tanking, you can't script it any better than this.
Patriots were so bad all game long it took them 8min drive to the redzone only for Cam to slip on a 3rd and short and they had to kick a FG.
What did the Jets do, 12 man on defense, automatic first down.  (i knew at that moment they were going to lose). Patriots only got a FG.
Next play, Flacco throws a deep bomb (as if they were down 10, instead of milking the clock) into double coverage, bam interception.
Tie game, Jets with a chance to do something with less than 2min, Flacco gets sacked on a 2nd and short (that was Pats first of the game)
And Cam's final pass to Meyers, Jets corner and safety intentionally left him wide open, there was no one near him, 5 yards clear...

i'm not stressing about it as i got my 3-team parlay, but that was a bad look for the Jets, way too obvious i know they are bad but this was something else. Jags are still a threat @1-7...so better not compromise our perfect record.

I will always say its Gase...
That guy seems to be cancer on any team he coaches.
He sucked at the Dolphins when we had Tannehill (Tannehill is doing pretty good now!) and the the Dolphins are doing good/better without him.
Ever since he got the Jets, they have been sucking.

He is a terrible coach und it surprises me he has a job!

My money on the Jets at the ML was looking good heading into the 4th quarter with a 10 point lead but I was never confident that they could hold on for the win which is why I even said that I played the ML for fun but did think they could cover the spread at +10 which they did easy. My outlay was a lot more on the spread as that's what I felt confident about but did put a small amount at the ML. Congrats to the ones that took the Jets to cover as its never easy betting on these poorly ranked teams even to cover.

At this point the jets might as well lose.  Either take your next qb or trade the pick to someone for a boatload of first and second round picks.  Someone hard up for a qb

Well I'm a giants fan as well and I dont by any chance think they can go over 6 they can certainly win more than just the cowboys games.  Next game is against the Eagles, they were an Engram dropped pass away from beating them last game they certainly can beat them this time around.  Also the Bengals aren't really putting fear in anyone.  While I like Burrow and think he is gonna be a good one, the giants have just as good of a chance to win as they do.  So best case I think they can be 5-11 worst case obviously 2-14.  I see them ending the year 4-12, beating the cowboys and one of the games I mentioned.  Either way back for another top draft pick...again.

Well the Jets sure gave away that win in the 4th Quarter...
Gase will always be a loser, so glad the Dolphins got rid of this douchebag.

Hey hey hey, can we stop with all that Jets positive vibes and wishes in this thread, i really need them to lose tonight, and they need to lock that number one draft pick, that's a win-win.

Had a pretty rough betting weekend, lost a 9.50 ticket because freaking D.Slayton received only one target (9 vs Bucs last week), my Texans/Jags ticket lost because D.Johnson was concussed early in the game, otherwise he would've get his by the half, Broncos/Falcons parlay went to shit cuz of J.Jones, who finished with just 54 yards (i needed 75+ and they didn't even have Ridley available), a 7.00 ticket on the Bills/Seahawks game where i had both Metcalf and Diggs to catch a TD, and despite having the most targets and most rec yards Diggs did not score, everyone and their mamas had one, he did not.

What i have left is a 3 team parlay from TNF with Packers/Steelers/Patriots to win with a bigger stake.
Steelers almost got me a heart attack last night, Conner is trash, Steelers rush d is getting exposed, and going on 4th and 1 with 40 seconds left while being just 5 pts up (and not taking the FG) was tipping point. Had to fkn pray Garrett Gilbert does not make that pass in the end to win the game.

Joe Flacco in for Darnold   we got this! GO Patriots!

edit; c'mon Jets don't do it, 0-9 is better than 1-8

That would be amusing.

With how the underdogs kept the games very close yesterday it kind of makes me think that the Jets will cover today as well but i'll just back their team total which is currently at 16.5. I really like the over and for some reason I expect both teams to score at least two touchdowns and keep it close just like the game between the Jags and Texans.

It would be huge if Jets gets a miracle win nearly half of the entries took the Pats in their survivor pool.