Topic: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 - page 235. (Read 57572 times)

If this was a non-divisional game, I would take it. But it is actually a divisional game and I think these odds are about right, so no value. I still don't know what to think about the Cards this year. Apart from week1, where they got the upset @SF, they beat the teams they are supposed to beat in convincing fashion and lost when they met some tougher opposition (Panthers, Lions). Seattle is the best team they will face up to this point this season and their record in last years at home against them isn't something to cheer on: 0-7-1, with quite some blowout wins. I think it will be a close game; ARZ should go into this pretty confident after their last two W's and their defense is pretty good and should keep them in the game.

Not sure, if this helps you with your decision For me this is no bet - at least pre-match. There is always something (better) to be found in-play in these kind of games.

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Mixed day for me. Bengals with another tough loss allowing CLE to drive down the field with one minute left playing this ever shitty prevent defense. If it prevents nothing, then just play normal defense and let them try to beat you with a big play. If they succeed, then so be it.

TEN-PIT over was a push, although should have went over. But Big Ben decided to throw an INT on 3rd & 12 late in the game within easy FG range 49ers won and I am waiting for another FG in Vegas to win the over there as well.

The Jets didn't surprise me at all as I said days ago that I liked them to cover the spread which they did. I just need the Chiefs to win and I'll win my two leg parlay. I also have the Packers ML, Steelers ML and Raiders to cover the spread but right now its not looking good for the Raiders to cover but there is still a half of football to go so they still can cover.

I was shocked to see the Jets with the early lead over the Bills, but they pulled through of course.  The other story though, the Cowboys are going to be very bad going forward.  If you own Zeke in fantasy, sell that dude asap!

The Steelers really proved their the real deal today.  They might just be a top 3 team. Another sad loss for the Falcons.  Even with that great offense, they just can't keep up with their shitty defense.

Seattle -3.5 tonight vs Arizona. Thinking about taking Seattle in this one. Any thoughts on tonights game?

Wow...
The Bills and Cowboys getting destroyed...

I avoided the Bills Game but fell for Dalton, but I just forgot how bad he really is... He sucks!

Since the spread for the Bills match slightly moved in favor of the Jets I decided to take both first half(-6.5) and full game(-9.5) I also have them as my survivor pool pick. My initial plan was to go against the Cowboys but I ended up backing my pick after that disaster of a division game between the Giants and Eagles.    

Edit: Bills already down 10-0 unbelievable they haven't scored yet. Match ended 10-18 I don't mind losing my bets at least my pool pick came through.    

Only odds I like in the early games are the Bengals. Don't get why they are priced that high, when their first encounter with the Browns was already close-ish. Browns are no worldbeaters and Bengals were able to keep all games close apart from the Ravens one, which is ok. They should have won @Colts last week too, but a missed field goal and some rookie mistakes from Burrow made them come up short again. This could happen today again, but these odds are good imo.


I wouldn't trust the Patriots atm as well, but this is more relevant for ML than your over team totals bet. But I might jump on 49ers ML later, since this NE O-Line is very suspect to say the least and Cam is a bit shaky, if not well protected. 49ers (and especially their defense) did well last week against the Rams, so 2.40+ for them looks some value. Lets make it 22-21 for SF and Cam rushing one in

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Also playing the overs in TEN-PIT and LV-TB games, because I will watch these on NFL gamepass, lol.

My bets last week were pretty trashy, looking to bounce back.

○ Bills ML + Diggs Anytime score - Bills will be without their TEs in this one due to covid, they are also coming off two straight losses scoring 33pts total, they like me need to bounce back against a free-falling NY Jets team. Diggs should have plenty of opportunities to catch at least one TD.

○ Packers ML + Davante Adams Anytime score - Two interceptions for Rodgers last week and zero TDs, i expect him to go off today, D.Adams is in one of my fantasy teams, need him to score some points for me.

○ Patriots O20.5pts + C.Newton Anytime score - Patriots are 2-3, shockingly losing to Denver last week. Cam had a pretty rough game himself with two interceptions, but i just don't trust 49ers this year with so many players injured, you don't know what you will get from them.

Gl to those having bets!

Thats what they should have done in this years draft already; instead they drafted the supposedly most NFL-ready OT, but the one with the lowest upside at #4, when this draft was stacked with good OT's. Thomas was playing out of position at LT for the first games, but as you said he also got manhandled at RT. They should have just traded down and take any of the OT's still available (Thomas, Wills, Becton, Wirfs) - would have made no difference and Thomas has always been a reach at 4 imo.

And while we are at it, I also don't understand how the Lions (or any other team) can select a CB at #3, because this is a wasted pick no matter how good that guy might be. If I was a NFL GM, I would always go O-Line or D-Line with my high picks. Some stud MLB, like Kuechly, is fine as well and QB of course, if you need one. If you have a very good O-Line/D-Line, you can get away with a lot of mediocrity on the other positions imo.

If you have outstanding CB's, safeties, ILB/OLB thats nice, but won't help you, if your D-Line can't pressure the QB and is not able to stop the run. All CB's can cover WR's only for so long, so if you give the QB too many time, even a very good CB will look poor. If you have a very good D-Line otoh, you give the QB only few time and don't need superstars at CB/Safety.

With a good O-Line you can then protect your QB very well, give him time to scan the field and even not-so-good WR's can get open. If they dominate the LOS, they will also create lanes for your RB, who then himself doesn't need to be the next Barry Sanders to make noise.

At this point I think we cannot talk about a team winning the NFC East, whoever ends up at the top at that division is the worst at tanking, after all think about the draft order and see how many positions the winner of that division will give up, with 14 teams now going to the postseason this means the first 18 spots will be given according to the regular season record, last year the 9 and 10 spot were there with a 6-10 record and the spots 11 to 16 had a 7-9 record.

The winner of this division is not going to have a winning record and most likely it would have landed on those spots but since they will win the division this means the NFC East champion will get seeded according to how well they do in the playoffs and even if they lose on the first round this means the best they can expect is the 19 spot.

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Edit: Antonio Brown has signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for one year.
Source: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/antonio-brown-contract-heres-how-much-the-buccaneers-will-reportedly-pay-the-former-all-pro-receiver/

Their defense is atrocious its going to be hard for them to win many games.  With dak they only beat the giants who are terrible and Atlanta who is terrible and that was 40-39.  Dalton might have lost both of those games, but I guess someone has to win right lol.  Either way it's a guaranteed first roumd loss to a superior wildcard team.

I predict the Cowboys to win the division with or without Dak Prescott. The other teams are worse in many ways hehe. The Cowboys at the very least have their offense.

This game was terrible lol.  I mean way to go giants just imode why don't you.  That engram drop on 3rd down with 2 to go was terrible.  He is a flat out bust, another first round miss.  And I kmow Andre Thomas is a rookie but he is getting torn apart at right tackle.  I hope the giants get the #1 pick and trade it for multi picks, they have so many holes to fill, where to start?

It was indeed one of the worst game i've watched both teams could get anything going punting back and forth. In the second quarter the turnovers came then the Eagles doing their own thing by choking every possible play was just frustrating. They had a lot of chances to get away with the game but they missed most of it. In some of their plays it felt like Wentz was frustrated since he started running the ball on his own instead of passing it. 

As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

I had the giants on the +5 Spread and bit sprinkled on the Moneyline. It was just embarassing to see

That line had me scratching my head, the Redskins favored? Dalton did look pretty bad in the game though...

@xxjumperxx. The Giants +4.5 against the spread have won, however.

Next must win game in that division is the Cowboys versus the Washington Redskins with the Redskins giving -1. I am shaking my head. Football experts, why is this?

Wow, the NFC East is just so terrible...
Giants blew a last minute lead to have the Eagles come out on top 22:21... pretty embarassing...

I mean look at this table...  

The Giants are leading this must win game. The NFC East winner might have the worst record in the NFL to receive a slot for the playoffs hehehe.

This is also the division where a record like the Washington Redskins still has a chance to go to the playoffs hehehehe.

Just so i don't stay up and watch two teams i have zero interest in, i've put a few small-stake prop bets on the Eagles.
Fulgham O62.5 receiving yards, he's been the only reliable receiver for Wentz the last couple of games, he should get around 10 tgts even with Jackson back.
Boston Scott O53.5 rushing yards, Giants have a decent rush defense, so i'm not super psyched about this one but whatever..., couldn't think of anything else.

I also took the Eagles spread (-5.5), so GO EAGLES! 

The spread for the game has been pushed out to 5 and the Eagles are $1.41 on some books. The Eagles are my team but I hate taking them when they are short priced favourites against a divisional team so I think I'll sit this one out.

On the Bills/Jets game I'm only seeing +12 spread on most books so it has come in 1.5.