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Whats everyone take on this Game?
I got the Panthers to win I can't trust the Falcons to take this one after choking too many times.

If i'm going for the totals i'd take the under since the previous meeting ended 36 and even though both can score a lot of points 50 is too much imo.

Edit : So many chances for the falcons to be up by a touchdown but they always fall short when its first and goal.

-Gurley sidelined for no apparent reason
-Ridley tweaked his ankle and likely out @42 yards
-Moore 1tgts 0 yards

the absolute state of give me a fucking break, these prop bets can be sooo frustrating at times.
That is some next level unlucky.

Well played by the Falcons with that interception at the final possession. The Panthers played sloppy and buried themselves with some penalties.
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Whats everyone take on this Game?

Im probably going to stay away from picking a side/spread and will just bit my money on the over and hope for an exciting game.
There is a hurricane warning so I will see how that develops before placing any bets.

I can't pick a side in this one either, though i slightly favor Atlanta to cover and win, as for the O/U, tough one as well, but maybe Under as these two played just a couple of weeks ago 23-16 Carolina.

McCaffrey was rumored that he might play, but he is out, Julio Jones will play for the Falcons.

Here's what i got:

T.Bridgewater 230+ pass yards + T.Gurley II 55+ rush yards total odds 1.96
Bridgewater finished with 313 yards against the Falcons, in that very same game Gurley had 121 rush yards himself.
Falcons are second to last in opponent passing yards per game @ 322.7 (last 3 games)

D.J.Moore 55+ receiving yards + C.Ridley 55+ receiving yards total odds 2.00
D.J.Moore has 93 receiving yards in each of the last three games, against that poor pass defense he should have himself a night.
C.Ridley is in one of my fantasy teams, need him to put some decent numbers for me. He has had more than 55 rec yards in each of the last 3 games, 136 yards against the Panthers three weeks ago.

D.J.Moore Anytime TD score + T.Gurley II 5+ receiving yards total odds 3.00
Risky one but i'm high on D.J.Moore, excellent matchup for him, as for Gurley, Falcons are giving him between 3 and 5 targets (last 3 games), 5 yards are nothing.


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-Gurley sidelined for no apparent reason
-Ridley tweaked his ankle and likely out @42 yards
-Moore 1tgts 0 yards

the absolute state of give me a fucking break, these prop bets can be sooo frustrating at times.
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As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

I predict the Cowboys to win the division with or without Dak Prescott. The other teams are worse in many ways hehe. The Cowboys at the very least have their offense.

Lol they scored 3 points against the redskins, dont think thats going to cut it.  Their defense is atrocious, i can see the Eagles taking the division at this point.  It will probably go back and forth all year with this division but the cowboys are as worse as I've seen them in a long long time.
In all honesty I thought DAL will still have chances of winning that division with Dalton at QB but after he was be figuratively murdered on the field I can say that team has lost any chance to win it. PHI seems like the obvious choice to win the division but the injuries could be what stops them from getting the divisional title and if that is the case the only other football team that may have any chances is... Football Team?

Personally I do not believe any of the teams on the NFC East will even reach 0.500 which is a shame because it means a good team with a 11-5 or 10-6 record could be left out of the playoffs which is completely unfair.

It happens a lot where a team thats 8-8 or 9-7  wins but those are the breaks.  Even worse the nfc east winner will be hosting a home game against a team that is potentially 12-4 or even 13-3.  Obviously none of the 4 yeams are going to do squat in the playoffs so its just a speed-up for the best wild card team.
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Here are the "live-odds" from betonline:


Source: https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/nfl-futures

I think we should look at the schedules as well, when trying to figure out which of these crap teams will host a playoff game. Cowboys/Eagles still have 4 divisional games, which is supposed to be the easiest way to get a W. Eagles have a super tough schedule outside of the divisional games; Seattle, GB, Saints super hard, @Browns and @Cardinals not easy too. Washington has the easiest schedule, where they could get extra non-divisional W's against Lions/Bengals/Panthers. Cowboys only have Vikings/Bengals as potential W's, if everything goes according to plan, but they are both away games.

Washington @4.5 is probably a bit too high, but I just can't Cheesy



Whats everyone take on this Game?

I like the under here, since Falcons Defense was a bit better in recent games and everyone is expecting some shootout, but I don't see it. You have to go all the way back to 2011 to find a game between these two in Bank of America Stadium which had 51+ points. Actually in the last 25 games @Carolina, the total stayed 23 times under todays line Wink Looks different @Atlanta, but somehow these teams always have low-scoring affairs in North Carolina. But I don't like to bet unders, maybe someone else finds this information useful though Smiley
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As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

I predict the Cowboys to win the division with or without Dak Prescott. The other teams are worse in many ways hehe. The Cowboys at the very least have their offense.

Lol they scored 3 points against the redskins, dont think thats going to cut it.  Their defense is atrocious, i can see the Eagles taking the division at this point.  It will probably go back and forth all year with this division but the cowboys are as worse as I've seen them in a long long time.
In all honesty I thought DAL will still have chances of winning that division with Dalton at QB but after he was be figuratively murdered on the field I can say that team has lost any chance to win it. PHI seems like the obvious choice to win the division but the injuries could be what stops them from getting the divisional title and if that is the case the only other football team that may have any chances is... Football Team?

Personally I do not believe any of the teams on the NFC East will even reach 0.500 which is a shame because it means a good team with a 11-5 or 10-6 record could be left out of the playoffs which is completely unfair.
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As an Eagles fan I'm happy they got the win but watching the game was terrible and I'm glad that I didn't place a bet on them even though they won. I think most here had a win with most taking the Giants to cover which they did. I do agree that the NFC East table looks very bad right now but it can all change as there is time for at least one or two teams to get .500 hopefully lol.

I predict the Cowboys to win the division with or without Dak Prescott. The other teams are worse in many ways hehe. The Cowboys at the very least have their offense.

Lol they scored 3 points against the redskins, dont think thats going to cut it.  Their defense is atrocious, i can see the Eagles taking the division at this point.  It will probably go back and forth all year with this division but the cowboys are as worse as I've seen them in a long long time.
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FALCONS VS. PANTHERS Betting Preview



Odds:
Spread: Carolina -2.5
Money-Line: Carolina -135 (opened at 140), Atlanta +115 (opened at +130)
Total: 51.5 (opened at 50.5)


ATLANTA
Overall: 1-6 SU, 2-5 ATS, 4-3 O/U
Road: 1-2 SU, 2-1 ATS, 2-1 O/U
Offense PPG: 26.3 (Ranked 13)
Offense YPG: 401.0 (Ranked 6)
Defense PPG: 29.6 (Ranked 26)
Defense YPG: 425.9 (Ranked 31)

CAROLINA
Overall: 3-4 SU, 4-3 ATS, 3-4 O/U
Home: 1-2 SU, 1-2 ATS, 1-2 O/U
Offense PPG: 23.1 (Ranked 25)
Offense YPG: 369.1 (Ranked 15)
Defense PPG: 24.0 (Ranked 13)
Defense YPG: 351.1 (Ranked 13)


KEY INJURIES

ATLANTA
WR Julio Jones: Hip - Questionable
WR Russell Gage: Knee - Questionable
DE Takkarist McKinley: Groin - Questionable
OT Kaleb McGary: Elbow - Questionable
C Alex Mack: Knee - Questionable


CAROLINA
RB Christian McCaffrey: Ankle - Doubtful
DE Zach Kerr: Toe - Questionable
DE Efe Obada: Back - Questionable
DE Marquis Haynes: Knee - Questionable
CB Eli Apple: Hamstring - Questionable
OT Russell Okung: Calf - Questionable




Whats everyone take on this Game?

Im probably going to stay away from picking a side/spread and will just bit my money on the over and hope for an exciting game.
There is a hurricane warning so I will see how that develops before placing any bets.
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^If i had to take the spread i would probably also back the Bears to cover tonight. Rams have a 4-2 record with all wins coming against NFC East teams, so not that impressive.

I think it's going to be a low scoring affair, liking the Under 44.5 a lot here, Bears are avg 18pts (last 3) vs. Rams 21pts (last 3).

To be honest, I don't blame you. I was gonna pick Rams moneyline but transaction fees are a bit high right now and I didn't feel like spending $5 just to potentially lose $20, LOL. So I didn't get my bet in and now of course the Rams are crushing it. The under is still looking good at this point. Pre-game the feeling was that a win for the under would signify a cover for the Bears, but now it looks like the second part might not be true.

Happy for my Rams and its good just watch a game for the sake of the game instead of making money.

Yeah rams are taking it to them.  It was hard to pinpoint how good they were yet since they've been feasting on the nfc east which every division is making a mockery of.  Nice strong win for them here at this point in the year, soldier them as a contender in the west.  That is going to be a real hard division to come out of this year, honestly any of those teams will be tough to beat.

Yeah my Chicago Bears suck.  Fact of life I have done a good job getting used to. We will probably limp in to the playoffs but I hope they fire our General Manager.  Guy has been a joke. I hear you the NFC West is petty solid, however I think the Seahawks are the clear cut best team in that division.  That being said as volatile as the NFL has been from game to game this year, I could see any of those teams making a run.

I still lile the rams out of the west but will have to see them beat a couple of more teams otjer than the nfc east.  I think taking away the crowd or settles 12th man will have a big effect down the line.  Seattle always held such a huge home field advantage.  And then there is Arizona who I can see sneaking in too..hell all 4 teams should make it  Cheesy

In other news how the hell are the bucs on 10.5 point favorites over the giants.  Some line i feel like they know something we dont
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The Bears looked terrible last night and even when all the stats are in favour for them to cover the spread they don't even though when they have been losing its been under the spread that was on offer last night. It was good to see the Rams get a solid win.
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^If i had to take the spread i would probably also back the Bears to cover tonight. Rams have a 4-2 record with all wins coming against NFC East teams, so not that impressive.

I think it's going to be a low scoring affair, liking the Under 44.5 a lot here, Bears are avg 18pts (last 3) vs. Rams 21pts (last 3).

To be honest, I don't blame you. I was gonna pick Rams moneyline but transaction fees are a bit high right now and I didn't feel like spending $5 just to potentially lose $20, LOL. So I didn't get my bet in and now of course the Rams are crushing it. The under is still looking good at this point. Pre-game the feeling was that a win for the under would signify a cover for the Bears, but now it looks like the second part might not be true.

Happy for my Rams and its good just watch a game for the sake of the game instead of making money.

Yeah rams are taking it to them.  It was hard to pinpoint how good they were yet since they've been feasting on the nfc east which every division is making a mockery of.  Nice strong win for them here at this point in the year, soldier them as a contender in the west.  That is going to be a real hard division to come out of this year, honestly any of those teams will be tough to beat.

Yeah my Chicago Bears suck.  Fact of life I have done a good job getting used to. We will probably limp in to the playoffs but I hope they fire our General Manager.  Guy has been a joke. I hear you the NFC West is petty solid, however I think the Seahawks are the clear cut best team in that division.  That being said as volatile as the NFL has been from game to game this year, I could see any of those teams making a run.
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^If i had to take the spread i would probably also back the Bears to cover tonight. Rams have a 4-2 record with all wins coming against NFC East teams, so not that impressive.

I think it's going to be a low scoring affair, liking the Under 44.5 a lot here, Bears are avg 18pts (last 3) vs. Rams 21pts (last 3).

To be honest, I don't blame you. I was gonna pick Rams moneyline but transaction fees are a bit high right now and I didn't feel like spending $5 just to potentially lose $20, LOL. So I didn't get my bet in and now of course the Rams are crushing it. The under is still looking good at this point. Pre-game the feeling was that a win for the under would signify a cover for the Bears, but now it looks like the second part might not be true.

Happy for my Rams and its good just watch a game for the sake of the game instead of making money.

Yeah rams are taking it to them.  It was hard to pinpoint how good they were yet since they've been feasting on the nfc east which every division is making a mockery of.  Nice strong win for them here at this point in the year, soldier them as a contender in the west.  That is going to be a real hard division to come out of this year, honestly any of those teams will be tough to beat.
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^If i had to take the spread i would probably also back the Bears to cover tonight. Rams have a 4-2 record with all wins coming against NFC East teams, so not that impressive.

I think it's going to be a low scoring affair, liking the Under 44.5 a lot here, Bears are avg 18pts (last 3) vs. Rams 21pts (last 3).

To be honest, I don't blame you. I was gonna pick Rams moneyline but transaction fees are a bit high right now and I didn't feel like spending $5 just to potentially lose $20, LOL. So I didn't get my bet in and now of course the Rams are crushing it. The under is still looking good at this point. Pre-game the feeling was that a win for the under would signify a cover for the Bears, but now it looks like the second part might not be true.

Happy for my Rams and its good just watch a game for the sake of the game instead of making money.
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I had an even day yesterday as I hit with one of my parlays and the other losing due to the Raiders not being able to cover. In tonight's game I'm liking the Bears to cover the +6.5, I would prefer +7 so I may by that extra .5 of a point.
The spread on the Bears looks really good I think they have a great chance at covering the spread since the winning margin in their games is always within 3-6pts.

I went for a small risky play and grabbed the Bears to win @3.4. My only reasoning for taking this is because of the teams they faced most of their wins are against weaker teams but the Rams haven't had a convincing win yet. 
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^If i had to take the spread i would probably also back the Bears to cover tonight. Rams have a 4-2 record with all wins coming against NFC East teams, so not that impressive.

I think it's going to be a low scoring affair, liking the Under 44.5 a lot here, Bears are avg 18pts (last 3) vs. Rams 21pts (last 3).

So i went with Jimmy Graham 20+ receiving yards + U49.5 total points (total odds 2.17)

Rams allowed 109 yards to Kittle in their last game, J. Graham has been the second most targeted man after Foles took over at QB.
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I had an even day yesterday as I hit with one of my parlays and the other losing due to the Raiders not being able to cover. In tonight's game I'm liking the Bears to cover the +6.5, I would prefer +7 so I may by that extra .5 of a point.
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And while we are at it, I also don't understand how the Lions (or any other team) can select a CB at #3, because this is a wasted pick no matter how good that guy might be. If I was a NFL GM, I would always go O-Line or D-Line with my high picks. Some stud MLB, like Kuechly, is fine as well and QB of course, if you need one. If you have a very good O-Line/D-Line, you can get away with a lot of mediocrity on the other positions imo.

If you have outstanding CB's, safeties, ILB/OLB thats nice, but won't help you, if your D-Line can't pressure the QB and is not able to stop the run. All CB's can cover WR's only for so long, so if you give the QB too many time, even a very good CB will look poor. If you have a very good D-Line otoh, you give the QB only few time and don't need superstars at CB/Safety.

With a good O-Line you can then protect your QB very well, give him time to scan the field and even not-so-good WR's can get open. If they dominate the LOS, they will also create lanes for your RB, who then himself doesn't need to be the next Barry Sanders to make noise.
Agreed, it is just common sense really, in a QB centric league then the most valuable position in defence should be the guys that go and hunt the QB and for what I can see on average the DE is the highest paid position on the defence and the second highest overall behind the QB so the market seems to reflect the importance of the position, now on the case of the OL this will depend, SEA has gotten away with a cheap OL for years because they have Wilson but for the rest of the teams you need a good OL, look at what it is happening to DAL, they had a good during OL the previous seasons and Zeke looked great and had a great offence, this year they don’t and Zeke cannot run and now they have two injured QBs, or take a look at NE, we do not have a good OL either and the offence has done nothing during the last three games.

However when it comes to a CB I will give DET a break if they thought Okudah is a shutdown CB in which case the pick may be worth it but it was risky nonetheless.

If he turns out to be a top 3 corner back in the league then its well worth it.  Building a team is tricky and if you get a lock down corner you can leave him by himself on the other teams best reciever and you can mask a bad secondary with schemes for the other side of the field.  Okudah was rated that high by many teams.  Time will tell.
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And while we are at it, I also don't understand how the Lions (or any other team) can select a CB at #3, because this is a wasted pick no matter how good that guy might be. If I was a NFL GM, I would always go O-Line or D-Line with my high picks. Some stud MLB, like Kuechly, is fine as well and QB of course, if you need one. If you have a very good O-Line/D-Line, you can get away with a lot of mediocrity on the other positions imo.

If you have outstanding CB's, safeties, ILB/OLB thats nice, but won't help you, if your D-Line can't pressure the QB and is not able to stop the run. All CB's can cover WR's only for so long, so if you give the QB too many time, even a very good CB will look poor. If you have a very good D-Line otoh, you give the QB only few time and don't need superstars at CB/Safety.

With a good O-Line you can then protect your QB very well, give him time to scan the field and even not-so-good WR's can get open. If they dominate the LOS, they will also create lanes for your RB, who then himself doesn't need to be the next Barry Sanders to make noise.
Agreed, it is just common sense really, in a QB centric league then the most valuable position in defence should be the guys that go and hunt the QB and for what I can see on average the DE is the highest paid position on the defence and the second highest overall behind the QB so the market seems to reflect the importance of the position, now on the case of the OL this will depend, SEA has gotten away with a cheap OL for years because they have Wilson but for the rest of the teams you need a good OL, look at what it is happening to DAL, they had a good during OL the previous seasons and Zeke looked great and had a great offence, this year they don’t and Zeke cannot run and now they have two injured QBs, or take a look at NE, we do not have a good OL either and the offence has done nothing during the last three games.

However when it comes to a CB I will give DET a break if they thought Okudah is a shutdown CB in which case the pick may be worth it but it was risky nonetheless.
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AFC East ruined two of my bets, Bills couldn't connect on a single TD, and Cam threw 3 INT and got benched.
At least Rodgers/Adams bet went through, both putting beastly numbers.

I'm currently winning all three fantasy matchups this week with a chance to top or get very close to 200pts  Shocked


Jags and Chargers just put up a 35 point quarter, damn!

Yeah the bills effort was disappointing and I think reality is finally setting in on the patriots, their reign is over.  Belicheck is a great coach and all but it also helps when you have the GOAT captain ing the team for 20 years.  Now the Bucs get a little taste of that
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AFC East ruined two of my bets, Bills couldn't connect on a single TD, and Cam threw 3 INT and got benched.
At least Rodgers/Adams bet went through, both putting beastly numbers.

I'm currently winning all three fantasy matchups this week with a chance to top or get very close to 200pts  Shocked


Jags and Chargers just put up a 35 point quarter, damn!

Davante was a Killer on my Fantasy Team this week... Since it is a Apex League I also pushed the League Point Average a bit high with my scoring this week  Grin
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AFC East ruined two of my bets, Bills couldn't connect on a single TD, and Cam threw 3 INT and got benched.
At least Rodgers/Adams bet went through, both putting beastly numbers.

I'm currently winning all three fantasy matchups this week with a chance to top or get very close to 200pts  Shocked


Jags and Chargers just put up a 35 point quarter, damn!
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