Topic: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 - page 68. (Read 58532 times)

I thought this was kind of interesting, even though I haven't played Madden for 5 years or so:



I think its pretty accurate, except I would probably switch the Dolphins with the Chargers. I've always rooted for Tagovailoa but think Herbert is a slightly better QB. Of course it also depends on what kind of weapons they have to help them out. Chargers have Mike Williams and Keenan Allen but Dolphins do have Tyreek Hill who had his best season with the Dolphins last year after 6 seasons with the Chiefs... hmm.

Yes, we have decided on the deadline being the 13th of august for you to lock up your spot (3 weeks prior to draft day [sept.3]).

I think I can speak for everyone when I say we all enjoyed your company and hope you can manage to stay with us for another year.

Full?

Thanks for doing the update.

1) Draft time I think we used EST last year and no-one had issues with that so I'd say we stay with it so there are no mistakes.  I have no issue with 2-8pm EDT so if everyone states there range and preferences of which mine would be 7pm then i'm sure we can hit a happy median for everyone and I think we used 7pm last year.

2) Kickers , I'm ambivalent on this but if we changed kickers to flex we would have a serious issue with lack of choices on the waiver wire.

3) We have 3 choice and used continual rolling list last year.
a) Continual Rolling List
b) Reverse Order of Standings
c) Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings :My vote

OK I've thought alot about this recently we currently have Continual rolling which is probably the most advantageous to those who had a good draft as they can save up their waiver for when they really want a guy and their priority will be increasing every week they don't use it as those that use it drop to the bottom and it DOES NOT reset every week.

For a more friendly league a reverse order of standings gives the last place team the first priority and is RESET every week and this allows losing teams a chance to build a team from the wire thereby making them more competitive and less likely to give up and quit as no-one likes being stuck with guys that are under performing with no hope of getting good replacements. Now the only issue I see with this is if you build a good team and half way through the season your top guy hits IR then you may not be able to get a decent replacement until you lose so many weeks your no longer in contention. So I have been thinking maybe we can have a Hybrid waiver order where at the beginning of the season we allow the reverse order every week until say week 6 and then switch to continual rolling for the remaining weeks which should help everyone out similarly if I understand everything correctly.

Also I prefer "Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings waiver priority" which is the same as "Reverse Order of Standings" except you drop to the bottom when you use your waiver which is only fair.





I am Sending Yahoo and S33k3r invite links to join right now.

Also I think everyone agreed on the .0025btc fee staying the same so we can get our dues in to DW when he provides an addy.
Also I prefer to use Monero is its OK with DW.




You ol stick in the mud!



U2!





Yeah it was a snoozer, but was cool to hear collinsworth, I've been watching redzone so much last few years I almost forgot what the regular announcers sound like.



Agreed but rolling can also be exploited if your devious enough to tank your fisrt few weeks.

Thats why I recommended Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings.



You made some great moves last year!

I for one thought you were insane when You picked CMC over J.Taylor!

Well guess I ate some crow on that one!

Also you were leading for what the first half of the season and the only reason you didn't win imo was your bench depth.

You came in 3rd I think and for a second year player against the quality of players in this league I'd say that was a massive accomplishment!




Its such a tough balance to keep a league competitive and also fun, this is why I have been thinking a hybrid approach may be best for all players.
You ol stick in the mud!



U2!





Yeah it was a snoozer, but was cool to hear collinsworth, I've been watching redzone so much last few years I almost forgot what the regular announcers sound like.



Agreed but rolling can also be exploited if your devious enough to tank your fisrt few weeks.

Thats why I recommended Weekly Rolling List Based on Standings.



You made some great moves last year!

I for one thought you were insane when You picked CMC over J.Taylor!

Well guess I ate some crow on that one!

Also you were leading for what the first half of the season and the only reason you didn't win imo was your bench depth.

You came in 3rd I think and for a second year player against the quality of players in this league I'd say that was a massive accomplishment!




Its such a tough balance to keep a league competitive and also fun, this is why I have been thinking a hybrid approach may be best for all players.


^Holy shit I made a JJG post!

I'm good with what the rest of the league is good with.  In terms of kickers I do prefer to keep kickers in the league, I've won and lost by what the kicker has done.  Played right they can help you.  I put defense in the same category, not high up in terms of importance but can swing a game.  Either way I'm excited for football (and fantasy) back!

1. For what time do you prefer to schedule the draft?  I've no preference, any time is good.

2. Get rid of kickers?  I guess we are not there yet but YES!

3. Change waiver order to reverse standings?  Yes.

Well, this all looks settled to me.  Unless I forgot something, please let me know.

1) Spot lockup deadline: 3 Weeks (7 votes in favor)

2) date of draft day: Sunday, September 3rd (7 participants agree)

3) Accept Yahoo and Seek3r into joining the league? Yes (7 votes in favor)

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish? Yes (7 votes in favor)

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer? Yes (6 votes in favor)

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?: Yes (7 votes in favor)

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Now for something completely different; a man with more questions:

1. For what time do you prefer to schedule the draft?  I vote for ~12:00 UTC and later, or 05:00 UTC and earlier.

2. Get rid of kickers?  NO!

3. Change waiver order to reverse standings?  Yes.*

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*This isn't such a big deal to me, really.  I don't mind keeping things the way they are, so consider this a soft vote.  The way things were last year certainly didn't hurt Hueristic, he was doing horribly at the start of the season, and made a ton of smart moves despite the random waiver order.

I just think that "reverse standings" could help keep the league more competitive, and it's worth trying for a year.

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I think it's fair to allow yahoo62278 and seek3r to vote on the above questions.

I am open to some discussion on small changes, but it is difficult to argue against someone who wants no rule changes. We never had a bad season since @DireWolfM14, @Hueristic, @nutildah and the others created this fantasy league.

However, the rule change on waivers, will it make it easier for not very good fantasy players like me? I would have to agree to that change if yes hehehehehe.

I could argue that someone not "playing the waivers" is using less of it up, so they are more deserving of getting that next spot in the order.  Why should someone be rewarded for playing poorly? They could be picking up and dropping players like crazy AND get preferential treatment on the waiver wire...I'm not a fan of this personally. 

That Hall of Fame game sure was boring, can't wait for the real season to kick off!

1) Spot lockup deadline

3 weeks is good!

If we go with Sunday (September 3rd), then the deadline should be August 13th. 3 weeks is decent since we need to determine the draft order and give everyone time to mock draft.

2) date of draft day

Sunday, September 3rd

3) Any Veto's on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?

No. Allow both to join the league.

4) Keep me as Commish?

Yes.

5) Keep DW as treasurer?

Yes.

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?

League rules don't need much changing, my only issue is with the waiver order. I believe that the default setting "reverse standing" is a better option since "continual rolling" can be in a way exploited, with higher seeds receiving top priority as long as they play the waiver passively. Reverse standing will also improve league competitiveness by providing a much-needed boost to teams with bad records mid-through the season.

Welcome back suchmoon!


Me as well... I'm a fan of consistency.

So today was the pre-preseason game, Jets vs. Browns. I only watched the recap but I noticed that Greg Zuerlein put the first six points on the board... See? Kickers are important!

Not totally surprising that Rogers sat on the sidelines for the whole game. Will be interesting to see how he does this year. And I never thought I'd say this, but I missed Chris Collinsworth's voice.

Next games are on the 10th: Texans vs. Pats and Vikings vs. Seahawks

Fine.


Any day is fine, preferably evening hours UTC but doesn't really matter that much.


No. I mean yes. No veto. Yes to them joining.


Yes.


Yes.


Yes. I vote for no rule changes though

I am good with whatever everyone votes. I'm the new guy so I i'll make it easy for everyone. Regarding draft day, What time zone is the start time and when is the start time? I'm in the EST timezone and pay attention to UTC as well since I have the forum set on that timezone.

I'm in. Sorry haven't been much active recently, trying this newfangled thing called vacation like 12 hours at a time until work texts me at 4am so I'm kinda cranky but definitely looking forward to crushing you all in FF.

1) Spot lockup deadline: 2 or 3 weeks

2) date of draft day: Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, but Wednesday is too late.

3) Vote on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league? Yes

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish? Yes

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer? Abstain

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?: Yes

Voting tally: If I missed anyone let me know

1) Spot lockup deadline

3 weeks prior to draft day.

Yes:
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
hueristic
bbc.reporter Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.

2) date of draft day
bbc.reporter Sat or Sunday
Hueristic Sat or Sunday
ChiBitCTy Sunday
nutildah sat or sun

3) Vote on Yahoo and Seek3r joining the league?
 Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

4) Keep Hueristic as Commish?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

5) Keep DireWolfM14 as treasurer?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter

6) should we go into debating and voting for rule changes before the player list is set and dues are collected?
Yes:
Hueristic
ChiBitCTy
nutildah
bbc.reporter


Points to debate after we finish the above, once again if I missed one let me know:

South Park:
1) Should we change the playoff format?
And let 6 teams to move to the playoffs with the top two teams getting a BYE or maybe expand it to 8 teams as some may not like not playing their teams on the most important part of the season?
2) About the second league, I am in, now we just have to wait to see if there is enough interest on it.

DireWolfM14:
1. What do you guys think of having two payouts?  I was thinking the second place team gets double the entry fee, and winner takes the rest.  

morvillz7z:
1. replace kicker with a flex spot
2. switch from continual rolling waivers to reverse standings

yahoo62278:
What is the buy-in and who/where are we sending it? I see .0025 mentioned but I want to be sure.

nutildah
Payout structure
how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs


*Just noticed I havn't heard from Suchmoon but was pretty sure they had mentioned they would be in so I think I auto locked them up.
I pm'd and am waiting on a reply.

lol.  I'm in a league where they force us to have 2 kickers.  It's the dumbest league ever but I play in it because my best friend from HS asked me to co-manage it with him years ago, and it's a way for us to stay in touch and what not. Anyways I keep trying to get them to change the rules but they won't budge. I named my team "2 kickers 1 league" ..they weren't amused  (hopefully you get the joke there)



EDIT:  Everyone enjoy the Hall of Fame game tonight...first game of the season, even if it's preseason it's still NFL football!

1) Agreed, but 2 weeks before is also okay.

2) Okay with me. We do not want our commissioner lost in a casino without internet on draft day heheheheee.

3) No veto.

4) Yes.

5) Yes.

6) This thread is always open, no choice but to vote yes hehe.



In any case, sharing this old article about football being a combat sport. Some of you might like it.



As I said earlier, football is basically simulated war, but with a ball. The offensive line and defensive line is the main war front. The line is arguably the most important part of a football game, protecting the quarterback, giving the running back and full backs room to run, and more.

The quarterback is your general. He commands the players, making the most important plays with the ball. He delegates to the wide receivers, tight end, running backs, blocking assignments from all positions, play calling, audible, and all. Running backs, receivers, and tight ends are your skill players. For the most part, they’re responsible for scoring in a variety of ways.

Defense is the same boat. An defensive line is the front. The linebackers are the generals. Secondary protects the endzone. All have similar goals to the offense, just the opposite.

Read in full https://mymmanews.com/is-american-football-a-combat-sport-yes-it-is/

Get rid of the kicker? The kicker is a fantasy football institution since time immemorial. Getting rid of the kicker is like asking Catholics to give up rosary beads.




I'm in agreement with all this. A couple other things we'll also need to decide on is what the payout structure will be for the winner(s) and how many teams we have advancing to the playoffs. If hhampuz is out we'll need to find another player or cut one and go back down to 10... 11 teams is too weird. Personally I hope he stays in.

I'm good with pretty much everything laid out in those questions.  I think we should draft on a Sunday. I can make most Saturdays work, but Sundays I think are the best days for most people. 

I also think we should start with making any league changes before we get all 12 players locked up, no big deal not having that.  I say we start with getting rid of the kicker position.  I can't remember what else I though we should consider changing besides that, will have to review the leagues rules from last year. thx



I agree with you that sticking with Yahoo makes the most sense (though Sleeper is really growing on me and I believe is either the best or will be the best fantasy app before long).  I also agree with .0025BTC being a good amount as the buy in.
[/quote]I'm super curious to see how this Jets team does this season. Adding Aaron Rodgers, probably picking up Dalvin Cook, and a top 5 defense I can see them winning 10-11 games this season.

When are we planning on doing the draft?
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The Jets should bet quite good and fun to watch.  Still not sure if they are adding Dalvin Cook.  If they don't, they obviously think that Breece Hall is good to go, which would be great news for them as he's better than Cook and of course much younger.