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Topic: The END of ICO's? - page 15. (Read 8832 times)

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September 07, 2017, 08:52:04 AM
i dont think so the icos will end. because not only those country who invest and contribute icos. lots country in this world currently have spirit to join and contributed icos.
sr. member
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September 07, 2017, 08:51:05 AM
Don't worry man. It's not the end of ICOs, these countries are trying to manage icos to protect investors, not forbid forever.
newbie
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September 07, 2017, 08:46:49 AM
Cryptocurrencies have become a huge progress in the world of currencies. Even if the governments forbid all ICOs, the inventors will find the way around or will simply break through. The progress can't be stopped.
hero member
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September 07, 2017, 08:10:11 AM
only china goverment banned about ico can't killer ico project, about USA with SEC is very long time not support ico project
i think ico project still can run, without china people
but crypto curency is anonymous, so all china people still can invest in ico project

I think it is still ok to ICO projects, as you can see ,the market is getting worm and some hot ICO projects such as kyber and avenus will still be hard to join in, so I will keep supporting some promising ICO projects.

Well, it is now a lot of ICO are popping up. This occurs because the market also accepts it all so many entrepreneurs and technology experts also made some cryptocurrency to realize some recana or project that they find. But the problem is what benefits we will get when she participated in the funding of the ico, so essentially everyone will still support some projects are indeed still have a level of advantages and benefits. so look for an ICO the best and not give a lot of negative things
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September 07, 2017, 07:58:37 AM

1 . Regulating all icos , that needs a long time to come ture, that means we have a long time to play with icos.
2.Regulation is good for crypto , otherwise any shit can issue an ico , that's crazy.
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September 07, 2017, 07:43:55 AM
I would welcome regulations so that the ICO will be kept from scams and projects that only want money.

Regulation is a double edged sword.

Currently, securities offerings are heavily regulated.  Most start-ups would not have the resources to comply with regulations and therefore, they can only take money from friends, family and accredited investors.  This means that if ICOs are regulated, most people would not be allowed to invest.

However, most accredited investors (wealthy people) don't know anything about technology, crypto currencies and the risks involved.  A basement dweller geek understands these things better.  Regulation will put up a wall between ICOs and the basement dweller.

Yes, regulation will save some basement dwellers from getting screwed by some ICO scams.  It will also prevent the basement dweller from investing in the next Ethereum and the basement dweller is much better equipped to spot the next Ethereum than most accredited investors.

Regulators give preference to accredited investors, but their logic has major flaws:

1) Regulators think that accredited investors are better investors.  Not necessarily.  A doctor knows nothing about investing.  A surviving spouse may know nothing about business.  Celebrities are HORRIBLE investors.

2) Regulators think that accredited investors can afford to lose the investment.  A 65 year old, retired accredited investor cannot afford to lose 100% of his net worth.  If he does, the rest of his life is screwed.  An 20 year old basement dweller can lose 100% of his net worth and it won't be a serious problem.
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September 06, 2017, 11:10:44 PM
After China & Korea, Hong Kong also raised concerns about ICO:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/05/hong-kong-ico-concern/
a hard blow for ico for now. All occur due to the negative effects that arise from the ico. if the negative influence is not immediately overcome. The possibility of ICO being a very difficult consideration for Investors
sr. member
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September 06, 2017, 11:05:20 PM
Maybe this will be good for old coins, and coins already in the big market, this is good for old crypto users, especially now too much ICO, maybe this is the right step, we will invest in an existing project since a long time ago

it is good but we have a good or some advantage of ICO's because ICO can be in a market so there are some supply in market and also it is good for trading.
newbie
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September 06, 2017, 11:05:07 PM
I think the use of tokens from etherum is the best way to crowdfund real icos and pay for services, so in the long run they will be very important.

etherum have a tendency to be a future strong currency,  we are developing a social video network using etherum tokens ( VTOS)

teaser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8F1E__jnfc

be ready in the coming month we are going to start the marketing campaign

regards.

edgardo aguirre
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September 06, 2017, 10:59:00 PM
No. Cheesy They will say that is premine. and sell them. No one can block crypto world
sr. member
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September 06, 2017, 10:47:37 PM
#99
There was no end to the ICO and no. This is an unjustified panic. According to incoming information, the ban in China concerns only organizations, that is, legal entities. Citizens were not allowed to invest in the ICO. There is a normal regulation of this market.

This is the better take on the issue that becomes hotter and hotter because of spreading not news but mere rumors. There will be no end to ICOs. Why would they end something that many people are comfortable using and many investors are supporting? Regulation is actually better. I would welcome regulations so that the ICO will be kept from scams and projects that only want money.
newbie
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September 06, 2017, 10:16:43 PM
#98
After China & Korea, Hong Kong also raised concerns about ICO:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/05/hong-kong-ico-concern/
sr. member
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September 06, 2017, 07:31:43 PM
#97
Not surprised. This is a channel to take money from China offshore - which is probably how many Chinese ICO investors see it. Buy here for RMB, sell there for USD. Bingo! Apparently, the stream grows fast enough for Chinese Government to take preventive action.

Chinese investors can still move money offshore without Chinese ICOs.  They can still buy Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc., with RMB and sell elsewhere for USD.
sr. member
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September 06, 2017, 07:25:32 PM
#96
I don't think it is going to be the end of ICO's just a step in the direction of regulation because a lot of people were getting scammed by all these fly by night companies that just decide to do an ICO kind of ridiculous IMO
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September 06, 2017, 07:21:17 PM
#95
I thought this is going to scare people away from ICO but looking at Aventus ICO today, this is the beginging, it is the system that will correct itself not any government because human being is design to find away around things like this. Sanity will enter the space but not until the whole ICO bubble pop first. Bitcoin will be only one of the tokens left standing in the end, then reasons will start to correct the whole ecosystem
it is already like that system is applied all its no more altcoin that will actually develop a program, it's just as the prefix only after it's been no news
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September 06, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
#94
I thought this is going to scare people away from ICO but looking at Aventus ICO today, this is the beginging … because human being is design to find away around things like this …

This issuers are apparently based in the UK. They’re ostensibly emboldened by the belief that the “use value” token is a valid defence against their ICO being classified as an investment security. That incorrect belief was apparently fostered by a Coinbase white paper.

This blog argues they are mistaken.

The ICO craze will have a deadcat bounce and continue until the regulators start punishing people for breaking the securities law.

When the regulators get serious, start forcing delistings from exchanges, confiscating bank accounts and assets of issuers and affiliates, and throwing some issuers in jail who don’t have enough assets for rescission, then we will see who still wants to buy these scalding hot potatoes.

Apparently punishment will originate in Asia and then presumably later work its way over to the West given that the SEC has already issued several warnings in the context of their investigation into The DAO.

https://www.google.com/search?q=regulation+of+ICOs+in+the+UK
https://www.coindesk.com/icos-eu-will-slow-giant-regulate-tokens/
http://www.jeremybarnett.co.uk/international-regulation-of-icos-cryptocurrency-lawyer

The definitions of ‘securities’ across jurisdictions are myriad. However, most of them seem to involve elements of shared ownership or control and an expectation of profit. In the United States, for instance, the definition of a ‘security’ includes ‘a certificate of interest or participation in any profit-sharing agreement’ or a ‘right to subscribe to or purchase the same’. In a similar vein, the UK Financial Conduct Authority defines a ‘security’ to include instruments with the following characteristics: ownership, control and a periodic monetary return. One may possibly argue therefore, that a ‘token’ or a ‘coin’ with profit sharing or governance rights is a ‘security’.

While securities regulators around the world are coming to terms with this new form of business entity and fundraising, entrepreneurs using ICOs are acutely aware that there lies a possibility that such tokens or coins would come under the ambit of securities law.

Regulators also probably need to weigh the benefits vs. risk outcomes. So they may be waiting to observe what happens with ICOs such as this one. To see if the risk to the naive investors is great enough to justify enforcement action.

With only a cursory glance, Aventus appears to have perhaps a valid use case, capable team, and presumable solid technology (although I did not read their white paper), so this wouldn’t be the best example of an ICO that most needs to be stopped.
sr. member
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September 06, 2017, 06:43:31 PM
#93
I thought this is going to scare people away from ICO but looking at Aventus ICO today, this is the beginging, it is the system that will correct itself not any government because human being is design to find away around things like this. Sanity will enter the space but not until the whole ICO bubble pop first. Bitcoin will be only one of the tokens left standing in the end, then reasons will start to correct the whole ecosystem
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September 06, 2017, 10:07:01 AM
#92
the ico end in statges, but its a good news for long term, only the rubbish and bubble removed can ICO develop healthly, most ico are scams in the past months, if not stop, there will be worse result appear
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September 06, 2017, 09:05:41 AM
#91
what might happen this all will be able to add security in ico so it is not easy to be broken by irresponsible people. But hopefully there is still the best side after a ban from China and many who accept this fact.
sr. member
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September 06, 2017, 08:54:13 AM
#90
There is so much rubbish among all the ICOs. Most of them are currently not based on a good business plan looking for financing, but a few types wanting to score a quick buck. I would like to have a full team of financial whizzkids to go through all the offerings and preselect the serious ones and filter out all the rubbish.
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