Topic: The Fascists That Surround You - page 9. (Read 9685 times)

I seem to recall in the other popular thread poor behavior on his part. If you wish to be exposed to alternative viewpoints, you are on the wrong board. You ensconce yourself in a gang of people here just like you. I am the minority here. You are the one engaged in group think. And if I'm an asshat, you're twice an asshat, but ensconced as you are amongst your buddies here, you can scream it louder than me.

When rational discourse fails - and he tried - what is left?

You are an asshat. But I dislike echochambers, so rather than confine myself to libertarian and anarchist boards, I come here where I may be exposed to alternative viewpoints. If I ignored all the asshats on here, I might as well just head back to The Shire Society boards.

Not because of hate but because of correctness.
I, for one, see a lot of politically ideological people here on the forums misusing well defined words.

It's funny how easily people here hide behind a victim role when presented with truths about their argument.
In fact, justusranvier has only been whining in this thread about how he's buthurt that augustocroppo critisized him.
Instead he could have devoted one post and explained how fascism is connected to sociopaths and put the argument down but somehow that was not an option.
Instead he showed a pavlov butthurt reaction i usually associate with people talking out of their ass.

And now you start the 'hate' thing.
Ow ow, look, they are hatings you. Oh noes.
I never thought this word was used outside the scope of 16-year olds

Instead of that childish play i would like to ask you what the relation is between sociopaths and fascism.

BTW. The way the second video defines sociopathy is the actual problem here. The radio host assumes that a sociopath only feels 'the most primitive emotional sensations, you know, lust... fear and rage."
He completely misses the point that sociopaths don
I mean, this is complete bullshit and could not ever serve as a basis for a sound argument that connects sociopaths to fascism.
Honestly, this guy is trying to scare you to get better ratings. That's the only story here.
But hey, if there was a connection between sociopathy and fascism then you could tell me, right?

Note your last post before this one. How hypocritical.

I'll say it in big letters so you won't miss it:

You are an asshat.

You openly accuse people like me and other people in this thread of being "a breeding ground for criminal organizations".  You are a liar and a scumbag who badmouths people solely because they don't share your religious sycophancy of authority.


Fuck you.  Suck a bag of dicks, shithead.

Killfile'd.

Voluntaryist? You mean some website or the dictionary definition? If the former, the website has made no claim to this thread. If the latter, then the idea is vague. Participate in the thread voluntarily? Or perhaps there is some notice that says only those who volunteer can participate?

Regarding collusion, you mean collusion by those who subscribe to the ideas of some website? Like various individuals here? I'm sorry, but if ever I experienced the butt end of asshatted remarks, I would say it would be you making the asshatted remarks.

Please don't imply or directly state that I am an asshat again. At best, your statement is hypocrisy, and at worst, an admission of your own asshattery, regardless of what I am.

He has no argument -- only hate for you, because you've stated that Daddy Gummint (the authority figures) is a sociopath, and how dare you say that about Daddy?  Ergo, he won't engage with you rationally -- he will only try to defame and discredit you.

No one ever did, except in the straw man you made up in your head so you could knock it down with definitions.
 
Fascism:Sociopaths::Garden:Roses.

So, again, is your argument that the sociopaths won't want the power, or that the government does not provide a means to that power?

You will find individuals with psychological disorder in other political regimes as well. This does not prove that there is an exclusive relationship of fascism with sociopathy. It only proves that individuals with psychological disorder can be found participating in any political regime. You are failing to explain what is the relationship between fascism and sociopathy.


You answer is literally the same nonsense implying that sociopaths are individuals conspiring to overtake a political regime.

Because hate.  He hates you and me and everyone else who presents ideas that scare him.  He has issues and he chooses to soothe his emotions by attacking and insulting others rather than by actually choosing to heal.  That's why.

As I said, you will find sociopaths in a fascistic government, just as you will find roses in a garden. That is the relation.

Because it gives power to anyone who can get elected, or otherwise seize that power, a skill at which sociopaths excel.

Augustocrappo's is the standard childish conversation sabotage tactic.  He needs to learn how to get get the peanut butter out of his ears before he can sit at the big boys' table and interact with them.

This is a fairly interesting statement.

The author Robert Altemeyer from the university of Manitoba wrote a book called The Authoritarians (IMHO a MUST READ) about precisely this dynamic:

- Authoritarians are the petty scum that follow and worship authorities blindly
- Social Dominants (what Stef calls "sociopaths") are the authorities that authoritarians worship

To establish fascism, one group needs the other, and vice versa.  It should come as no surprise that Altemeyer has discovered what traits make a person a member of any of those groups, and how terrifyingly high the modern time's incidence of Social Dominance and Authoritarianism is.  The asshats in this forum that collude to try and sabotage voluntaryist conversations (augustocrappo, blatherblatherblather, firstascent, I'd give you the whole list but I'm lazy) are almost assuredly Authoritarians by Altemeyer's definition in his research.

I personally talked to Stef about this book and the research in it when I interviewed him for the Decline to State episode posted here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLODu02R_gA the intro is hilarious.

No... That must be yours. My argument is that there is no relation between fascism and sociopathy.

Moreover, why would an organized government offer 'power' to individuals with psychological disorder?

Holy shit, that's right.  I remember him doing that to me, trying to defame me there.  He also wrote stalkerish PMs to me.  He's a creeper.  Ignore crappo.

I watched part 2 (sociopaths) today as I drove to work in my T/A.  It was a FANTASTIC video.  As usual, Stef hits it out of the ballpark.

So, is your argument that sociopaths would not desire power, or that the political regime would not offer them that power?

Sociopaths are not individuals conspiring to overtake political regimes.

Yes, I can use Google search and provide consistent references to support my arguments.

You did not explained what is the RELATION of a political regime with a psychological disorder. You indeed babbled about how people cannot resist to plant roses in they garden and compared this to a false premise (political regime attracts psychological disorder). Moreover, sociopaths are not political conspirators. Sociopaths are individuals which have an advanced form of personal disorder.

Your analogy is beyond stupid.

Yes, but the Fascistic government has that tasty power structure for them to seize, and use to their (and their fellow sociopaths') benefit.

Oh, and AugustoCrappo, Feel free any time you like to prove something other than you can use Google to search terms.