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War greatly affects the economy of every countries, it doesn't give any good thing at all but inflation, structural damages, many people will be unemployed, panic, despair, and uncertainty. War consumes a lot of funds for destruction of its enemy while it goes the same thing for the other country, it's just pure idiocracy, where people want to prove how powerful they are in exchange of nothing, to be honest.

War should be avoided as much as possible, but people always choose violence to get what they want, and that's what gonna makes us extinct in this world in the future.
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Instead of worrying about who speaks what where you should worry about the bad advice the American military is giving your troops that is leading to their loss and destruction. 3 much needed aircraft were destroyed based on that bad advice trying to use million dollar planes to shoot down a $10k-$15k drone! At least one of them was confirmed to be hunted down by the very drone it was trying to shoot down!

Basically US is treating Ukraine as a lab rat where they test strategies they have been testing elsewhere and failing! They did the same exact thing in Saudi Arabia and lost half a dozen planes there too.
This war is not going to end as long as Ukraine is being treated as the "experiment field".

The plane is a trifle against the background of how the Armed Forces of Ukraine every day send hundreds of representatives of the "second most powerful army in the world" to hell, and destroy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of equipment of the terrorist army Smiley
By the way - thanks to Russia for the most powerful Lend Lease! Lend-Lease, which Russia has launched since March 2022, is constantly leaving tens and hundreds of units of military equipment of our army. A very cool fact, easily verifiable - there were fewer tanks and armored personnel carriers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine before the war than in 3 months after the second phase of the terrorist war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. And this is all due to the abandoned military equipment regularly "regrouped", but in fact cowardly fled, Russian terrorists Smiley
And the United States and Britain really train and advise our army, teach modern warfare technologies, provide real high-tech weapons, and not fake trash, which, with the help of Soyuzmultfiln, raises the ego of a grandfather with the sexual characteristics of a grandmother, and of the entirere Russian people Smiley
More and more people in the West are beginning to scratch their heads wondering why they should be suffering with sky-high inflation, unaffordable utility bills, and unruly mobs of freeloading Ukrainian migrants. Ukrainians' minds are puzzled over the amazing speed at which the Ukrainian government swallows up vast sums of money being sent to the country with nothing to show for it. The public services in the West are failing due to a lack of funds. NATO on the other hand sends numerous kinds of weapons systems, which are being shipped off in the Ukrainian direction, that are either destroyed, sold to third parties around the world or taken as trophies by the Russians. while inflation is making their replacements unaffordable.

Though I do not pray for the war to continue. The war for supremacy should stop. This war between Russia and Ukraine might seem like a movie in eyes of many, simply because it hasn't begun to knock on the doors of other people in various countries. The war between both countries is to subside and be settled amicably, rather than for the US to add more coal to the fire that's already beneath.

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On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran.
They are not in the same category though, Shahed-136 is categorized as loitering munitions while Mohajer-6 is in the same category as TB2. Although that too is not a good comparison since TB2 is more like a Frankenstein where they import each part and put it together inside Turkey while majority of Iranian drones are 100% domestically produced.
https://www.rt.com/russia/564899-ukraine-bayraktar-vovan-lexus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-0hnhDOtCM
I always knew that Bayraktar drones were terrible but not this much! The chairman of the Committee on National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Pashynskyi said they "lost all their Bayraktar drones in first week of the war since they were so useless that they were all shot down by air defenses".

Basically Turkey abused the current situation in Ukraine to globally advertise their useless drone so that they could sell it to idiots elsewhere. That is the same thing US has been doing. One example is their useless Patriot system that used to be sold for $3-6 million per package and now is being sold for up to $12 million.
And some people still have doubts about who is benefiting from this war and who started it Smiley


Pashinsky and RussiaToday are, of course, ideal sources of information  Grin For those who live in fakes - that's it Smiley

Ok, I laughed heartily, let's get real!
After the start of another terrorist attack by a terrorist country on Ukraine, Ukraine received about fifty Bayraktars TB-2. The exact data is hardly available in open sources, but the approximate order can be found out.

It's silly to say (I'm not the Russian media Smiley) part of the bayraktars were lost during the hostilities. Now these devices are used in the east and south directions. But their active use has now decreased. The reasons ? The Armed Forces of Ukraine have more effective means of destroying terrorists, such as HYMARS, kamikaze drones, high-precision artillery, guided missiles, etc.
The approximate number of operating devices (Bayraktars TB-2) is several dozen.

For educational purposes: In Ukraine, the construction of a plant for the production of Bayraktars TB2 and promising models has begun.
A full-fledged unmanned fighter (I understand for Russians with "analogue-shit" weapons this is not very clear Smiley) developed by a Turkish company, equipped with a Ukrainian engine Smiley

PS by the way - I would like to hear your comments on the statements of the Russian media about "the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense in March 2022"? Smiley Today, the air defense perfectly worked out another raid of drones and missiles of the country of an international terrorist! Only in the Kyiv region and Kyiv, 4 cruise missiles and 10 Shahed-136 drones were shot down.

I don’t ask about the rest of the “successes” of the army of marauders and terrorists, so as not to injure the psyche of supporters of the Kremlin ghouls and their fakes Smiley

And yet - tell me - where are the ragged mobilized ones driven like cattle for slaughter? In which country is the president-terrorist, losing the war, forcing his citizens to die for the sake of his complexes? Smiley

And yet - December-January a surprise awaits you !!! Yes Yes Yes ! Who managed to hide from the first mobilization ... will fall into the second! Which, according to the "president who never lies" is not, will not be, and definitely will not be Smiley

Yes, the second wave of mobilization in Russia is likely to start in January 2023 (after the New Year).  From November 1, 2022, the conscription of young people aged 18-27 for military service begins.  Therefore, the mobilization will be temporarily suspended.  

However, from the New Year, mobilization will resume.  None of the Russians wants to fight anymore (everyone who wishes has already gone to the front on the agenda or voluntarily).  

The world economy is in recession.  It has nothing to do with hostilities between Russia and Ukraine.
The paradox is that 2022-2023 could be (in theory) be incredibly successful for Russia due to rising energy and grain prices after the recession of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.  Russia could significantly improve its economic situation, raise the standard of living of its citizens, and at the same time contribute to a faster recovery of the world economy from recession.  

Instead, we are witnessing absolute madness and destruction of the future and present.

I never imagined before how easy it is to manipulate the collective unconscious, suppressing people's will to live and stimulating the will to die.  This is scary.
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Expect another hit to the economy in around 1 week from now. The midterm elections in the United States will be completed by 8th November 2022. And immediately after that I expect the Americans to start refilling their Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR). The SPR is at the lowest level since 1984, and at some point the Americans need to refill it. And it is going to be tricky, given the recent production cuts by the OPEC+, and the proposed cap on Russian crude. I expect the Brent crude prices to climb to $120-125 levels by mid-November.

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If you look at the absolute cost in USD terms, countries outside the war zone has suffered more economic damage when compared to both Russia and Ukraine. Crude oil prices have remained high, LNG prices are up by 20x, coal prices are up by 2x, Potash fertilizer has gone up by 3x.etc. Prices of wheat, sunflower oil and barley are at historic highs. We now have double digit inflation in most of the countries. And I would say that the impact is felt more in third world nations such as India, since we import most of the oil and gas from outside.

I guess sanctions have really "backfired", just like Putin predicted. Now the world is facing the consequences of punishing one of the world's largest exporters of oil and other necessary commodities. Unless the war comes to an end, the global economy will only get worse. I hope both countries (Ukraine and Russia) come through some sort of peace deal for this nightmare to end once and for all. The world doesn't need another war, as many lives are suffering both in and out of the conflict zone.

Not only Ukrainians and Russians are dying, but people from other countries are now facing starvation due to rising food and energy costs. The poor are now poorer, while the rich, richer. COVID-19 may've affected the economy for a short period of time, but the war/invasion that ruined everything for good. No one knows how long the conflict between Ukraine and Russia will last, so we can only hope for the best. Just my thoughts Grin
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The impact on the global economy is significant. For example:
Approximately 100 speed cameras were stolen in Sweden, the kind of cameras that were later found in downed Russian drones! Smiley
In Sweden for the last few months, unknown people (come on Smiley ) have been stealing speed cameras. Cameras of this particular model are used on unmanned vehicles that the terrorist country uses in the war against Ukraine. The Swedish edition Aftonbladet writes about it.
According to the publication, at least 3 cameras have been stolen on the highway between the cities of Hofors and Falun over the past 24 hours.
Two more were stolen close to Hedemore. The police are investigating the systemic theft of cameras!

There are Canon cameras in metal cabinets along the trails. It is these cameras that are in the Russian "unparalleled" drones "Orlan-10". This is confirmed by the dismantling of many downed drones.


https://www.aftonbladet.se/ledare/a/GMMK76/darfor-behover-putin-svenska-fartkameror

https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/VPPe8l/stulna-fartkameror-blir-donare-i-kriget-i-ukraina


Russia has shown its historical habits here too - to steal and then lie :)and then lie Smiley
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The Russian and Ukraine War is likely to happen for a long time and has been more than 9 months, the damage and chaos of the Ukraine economy makes us sad because the impact of the war is certainly massive on many people, and of course the global economy is affected by the increasing oil price.

If you look at the absolute cost in USD terms, countries outside the war zone has suffered more economic damage when compared to both Russia and Ukraine. Crude oil prices have remained high, LNG prices are up by 20x, coal prices are up by 2x, Potash fertilizer has gone up by 3x.etc. Prices of wheat, sunflower oil and barley are at historic highs. We now have double digit inflation in most of the countries. And I would say that the impact is felt more in third world nations such as India, since we import most of the oil and gas from outside.
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The Russian and Ukraine War is likely to happen for a long time and has been more than 9 months, the damage and chaos of the Ukraine economy makes us sad because the impact of the war is certainly massive on many people, and of course the global economy is affected by the increasing oil price.
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PS by the way - I would like to hear your comments on the statements of the Russian media about "the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense in March 2022"?
It is mostly propaganda. Despite the significant damage to the Ukraine air strength, it was never a "complete" destruction specially when we have evidence such as this one from Chuchuiv air-base where Russian missiles hit everything except their targets!


Just as big a propaganda as saying Bayraktar drones were useful anywhere with any kind of air defense. Or that the majority of them weren't shot down in early days.
It is just as big a propaganda as claiming to shoot down Shahed-136 using any kind of traditional air defense or using their heat signature (something they don't even have).


1. From the news from the terrorist country, March 2022 Smiley

"Practically all aviation, air defense and fleet of Ukraine were destroyed"  Grin

https://rg.ru/2022/03/25/genshtab-unichtozheny-prakticheski-vsia-aviaciia-pvo-i-flot-ukrainy.html

2. Bayraktar TB took part in 2 very interesting operations:
- the destruction of a pack of Russian terrorists on Zmeinny Island, where Russia brought a huge number of air defense systems.
- a blow "on the unsinkable aircraft carrier of Russia" - the temporarily occupied Crimea, where almost 50% of all stocks of the terrorist country were located in the air defense and missile defense systems Smiley Then military bases, military airfields, fuel storage facilities and weapons burned. Have you decided to forget about it?

Once again - with the direct participation of Bayraktar, the most protected, from the point of view of air defense, airfields and warehouses IN THE DEEP of Crimea were destroyed.
Can you provide links? And about the fact that "Crimea has unparalleled protection, and no one will be able to attack it" - do you also want to listen and read, from Russian propagandists and generals? Smiley
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PS by the way - I would like to hear your comments on the statements of the Russian media about "the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense in March 2022"?
It is mostly propaganda. Despite the significant damage to the Ukraine air strength, it was never a "complete" destruction specially when we have evidence such as this one from Chuchuiv air-base where Russian missiles hit everything except their targets!


Just as big a propaganda as saying Bayraktar drones were useful anywhere with any kind of air defense. Or that the majority of them weren't shot down in early days.
It is just as big a propaganda as claiming to shoot down Shahed-136 using any kind of traditional air defense or using their heat signature (something they don't even have).
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By the way - thanks to Russia for the most powerful Lend Lease! Lend-Lease, which Russia has launched since March 2022, is constantly leaving tens and hundreds of units of military equipment of our army. A very cool fact, easily verifiable - there were fewer tanks and armored personnel carriers in the Armed Forces of Ukraine before the war than in 3 months after the second phase of the terrorist war unleashed by Russia against Ukraine. And this is all due to the abandoned military equipment regularly "regrouped", but in fact cowardly fled, Russian terrorists Smiley

Regarding lend-lease from Russia, I recently found interesting information:
In September-October, that is, during the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkov, Donetsk and Kherson directions, Russia lost 567 tanks and 890 armored vehicles. At the same time, 197 Russian tanks were captured during the chaotic Russian retreat. In total, after a large-scale invasion, Ukraine captured 482 tanks from Russian troops, mostly of the latest models.

For comparison: France is currently armed with 222 tanks, Great Britain - 225 tanks, Germany - 236 tanks.

According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the total losses of Russia are: 66,280 people (according to the data of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which were provided to Putin on October 14 - more than 91,000 people), 2,554 tanks, 5,235 armored vehicles, 269 aircraft, 242 helicopters, 1,637 artillery systems, 372 RZSO, 189 air defense systems, 3999 vehicles, 1286 UAVs, 16 ships and boats and other equipment.

According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, their total losses are: 2013 weapons, of which 317 tanks, 131 artillery systems, 51 air defense systems, 68 aircraft and helicopters.

Thanks to Lend-Lease from Russia, Ukraine is militarily much stronger than before the full-scale Russian invasion on February 24th.
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https://www.rt.com/russia/564899-ukraine-bayraktar-vovan-lexus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-0hnhDOtCM
I always knew that Bayraktar drones were terrible but not this much! The chairman of the Committee on National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Pashynskyi said they "lost all their Bayraktar drones in first week of the war since they were so useless that they were all shot down by air defenses".

Basically Turkey abused the current situation in Ukraine to globally advertise their useless drone so that they could sell it to idiots elsewhere. That is the same thing US has been doing. One example is their useless Patriot system that used to be sold for $3-6 million per package and now is being sold for up to $12 million.
And some people still have doubts about who is benefiting from this war and who started it Smiley

Well.. I posted about the ones taking advantage of the war sometime back. Turkey tops the list, as they used this opportunity to invade Nagorno Karabakh using their lapdog Azerbaijan. Now they are doing the same provocations in Central Asia as well. And when they used the war for their own political advantage, we can expect them to do the same economically as well. Initially there was a lot of hype in the media regarding the Bayraktar drones. But now hardly anyone talks about them, after the Russian air-defense started shooting them down.
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On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran.
They are not in the same category though, Shahed-136 is categorized as loitering munitions while Mohajer-6 is in the same category as TB2. Although that too is not a good comparison since TB2 is more like a Frankenstein where they import each part and put it together inside Turkey while majority of Iranian drones are 100% domestically produced.
https://www.rt.com/russia/564899-ukraine-bayraktar-vovan-lexus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-0hnhDOtCM
I always knew that Bayraktar drones were terrible but not this much! The chairman of the Committee on National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Pashynskyi said they "lost all their Bayraktar drones in first week of the war since they were so useless that they were all shot down by air defenses".

Basically Turkey abused the current situation in Ukraine to globally advertise their useless drone so that they could sell it to idiots elsewhere. That is the same thing US has been doing. One example is their useless Patriot system that used to be sold for $3-6 million per package and now is being sold for up to $12 million.
And some people still have doubts about who is benefiting from this war and who started it Smiley


Pashinsky and RussiaToday are, of course, ideal sources of information  Grin For those who live in fakes - that's it Smiley

Ok, I laughed heartily, let's get real!
After the start of another terrorist attack by a terrorist country on Ukraine, Ukraine received about fifty Bayraktars TB-2. The exact data is hardly available in open sources, but the approximate order can be found out.

It's silly to say (I'm not the Russian media Smiley) part of the bayraktars were lost during the hostilities. Now these devices are used in the east and south directions. But their active use has now decreased. The reasons ? The Armed Forces of Ukraine have more effective means of destroying terrorists, such as HYMARS, kamikaze drones, high-precision artillery, guided missiles, etc.
The approximate number of operating devices (Bayraktars TB-2) is several dozen.

For educational purposes: In Ukraine, the construction of a plant for the production of Bayraktars TB2 and promising models has begun.
A full-fledged unmanned fighter (I understand for Russians with "analogue-shit" weapons this is not very clear Smiley) developed by a Turkish company, equipped with a Ukrainian engine Smiley

PS by the way - I would like to hear your comments on the statements of the Russian media about "the complete destruction of Ukrainian air defense in March 2022"? Smiley Today, the air defense perfectly worked out another raid of drones and missiles of the country of an international terrorist! Only in the Kyiv region and Kyiv, 4 cruise missiles and 10 Shahed-136 drones were shot down.

I don’t ask about the rest of the “successes” of the army of marauders and terrorists, so as not to injure the psyche of supporters of the Kremlin ghouls and their fakes Smiley

And yet - tell me - where are the ragged mobilized ones driven like cattle for slaughter? In which country is the president-terrorist, losing the war, forcing his citizens to die for the sake of his complexes? Smiley

And yet - December-January a surprise awaits you !!! Yes Yes Yes ! Who managed to hide from the first mobilization ... will fall into the second! Which, according to the "president who never lies" is not, will not be, and definitely will not be Smiley
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On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran.
They are not in the same category though, Shahed-136 is categorized as loitering munitions while Mohajer-6 is in the same category as TB2. Although that too is not a good comparison since TB2 is more like a Frankenstein where they import each part and put it together inside Turkey while majority of Iranian drones are 100% domestically produced.
https://www.rt.com/russia/564899-ukraine-bayraktar-vovan-lexus/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-0hnhDOtCM
I always knew that Bayraktar drones were terrible but not this much! The chairman of the Committee on National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Pashynskyi said they "lost all their Bayraktar drones in first week of the war since they were so useless that they were all shot down by air defenses".

Basically Turkey abused the current situation in Ukraine to globally advertise their useless drone so that they could sell it to idiots elsewhere. That is the same thing US has been doing. One example is their useless Patriot system that used to be sold for $3-6 million per package and now is being sold for up to $12 million.
And some people still have doubts about who is benefiting from this war and who started it Smiley
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The war has caused huge damage in both countries even in their neighboring countries and one of its worst effects is the inflation crisis which is being experienced by most individuals nowadays. If there will be more wars that would occur especially between big countries, there will surely be economic chaos. We still don't know when the current war between Russia and Ukraine will come to an end but I hope it won't be too late for them to recover again.

Considering that Putin won't back down, it doesn't seem that the war will come to an end soon. Allied countries will continue to send aid to Ukraine, greatly prolonging the war. To make matters worse, China is on the brink of invading its neighbor Taiwan. If the China-Taiwan war takes effect while Russia still hasn't finished with Ukraine, then the global economy will suffer badly. I just hope things get back to normal so that we can have a better future.

Rising geopolitical tensions, and COVID-19 variants are tearing the world apart. You can never expect inflation to settle this way. The future is widely unpredictable, so we can only hope for the best. Just my opinion Smiley
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On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran.
They are not in the same category though, Shahed-136 is categorized as loitering munitions while Mohajer-6 is in the same category as TB2. Although that too is not a good comparison since TB2 is more like a Frankenstein where they import each part and put it together inside Turkey while majority of Iranian drones are 100% domestically produced.

Today Russia continues to use UAVs to attack the Ukrainian city of Kyiv, the President of Ukraine accused these UAVs of being Iran, but Iran has denied the above allegation, in addition, I also know that the EU is investigating who is the supplier of UAV to Russia. Do you have any information on this case? It seems that Russia is using UAVs quite effectively in air raids after being repelled on several battlefields.
Iranian officials denied having supplied anything to Russia for this war not denying the UAVs or their origin. There really isn't anything to investigate since it is pretty clear. As I said above, these were sold to Russia way before this war began. There are some other military relations between the two nations where Iran receives Su-35 planes from Russia.
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The real question is why isn't Ukraine buying arms from Iran and instead insist of receiving garbage from US? Of course the answer is clear: in the proxy war between US and Russia, US needs to control the arms that Ukraine receives in order to be able to prolong the war. In other words Ukraine is not allowed to purchase anything decent.

LOL.. Ukraine buying drones from Iran (although it is a very unrealistic scenario) will infuriate Turkey much more than it would irritate the United States. On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran. And so far the latter has prevailed over the Turkish counterparts. Given the strained relations between Turkey and Iran, I don't expect Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to sit quietly. He may create some sort of provocation against Iran, especially in Syria.  

Today Russia continues to use UAVs to attack the Ukrainian city of Kyiv, the President of Ukraine accused these UAVs of being Iran, but Iran has denied the above allegation, in addition, I also know that the EU is investigating who is the supplier of UAV to Russia. Do you have any information on this case? It seems that Russia is using UAVs quite effectively in air raids after being repelled on several battlefields.
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The real question is why isn't Ukraine buying arms from Iran and instead insist of receiving garbage from US? Of course the answer is clear: in the proxy war between US and Russia, US needs to control the arms that Ukraine receives in order to be able to prolong the war. In other words Ukraine is not allowed to purchase anything decent.

LOL.. Ukraine buying drones from Iran (although it is a very unrealistic scenario) will infuriate Turkey much more than it would irritate the United States. On the UAV- sector, it is a direct battle between the Bayraktar drones from Turkey and the Shahed drones from Iran. And so far the latter has prevailed over the Turkish counterparts. Given the strained relations between Turkey and Iran, I don't expect Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to sit quietly. He may create some sort of provocation against Iran, especially in Syria. 
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Americans do worry about the Iranian drones and are trying to counter them in anyway possible. During the recent few weeks, a large number of Ukrainian military targets were hit with these drones and billions of USD worth of American and European weaponry went up in flames. And as per available information, Iran has transferred hundreds (if not thousands) of drones to Russia and the latter has vast majority of the stocks remaining. These drones (Shahed-136) have been a game changer, similar to the role played by HIMARs on the Ukrainian side.
It is worth knowing that these drones are already old technology and have been given to all Iranian allies in West Asia and also have been used against US targets in the region over the past decade. They are extremely effective and US has not been able to protect their own bases against them so far!

But it was destroyed ... almost nothing!
HIMARS, S300, all kinds of radars and anti air defenses, even MIG-24 are among the things that it has destroyed... Not to mention its regular use in Middle East to hunt Patriot SAM systems.

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2. Low speed and high thermal "flare" gives them out well.
They can fly as fast as 200 km/h and leave absolutely no "thermal flare" because of their small engine and its type.

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As a result, up to 85% of these drones are now lost. Shoots down from .. SMALL weapons / machine guns
You can't shoot down Shahed-136 with small arms due to its small size (about 2 meters), speed and altitude. Not to mention that due to the material used in its body it won't fall even if it is shot with bullets.

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3. Drones have 2 guidance systems: inertial, low-precision and ... American GPS.
There are more than a dozen ways Iranian drones are guided, GPS is at the bottom of the list and that's even if it is on the list.

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PS Yes, we know that the "second army ... of the fourth world" has already begged for ballistic missiles from Iran.
To be fair Iran has the strongest and most advanced military in the world but the source of that news about BMs is not reliable, same with the one about Shahed-136 drones considering that they were sold to Russia a long time ago (way before the invasion) to be used in the war against terrorism in Syria.

The real question is why isn't Ukraine buying arms from Iran and instead insist of receiving garbage from US? Of course the answer is clear: in the proxy war between US and Russia, US needs to control the arms that Ukraine receives in order to be able to prolong the war. In other words Ukraine is not allowed to purchase anything decent.
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Instead of worrying about who speaks what where you should worry about the bad advice the American military is giving your troops that is leading to their loss and destruction. 3 much needed aircraft were destroyed based on that bad advice trying to use million dollar planes to shoot down a $10k-$15k drone! At least one of them was confirmed to be hunted down by the very drone it was trying to shoot down!

Basically US is treating Ukraine as a lab rat where they test strategies they have been testing elsewhere and failing! They did the same exact thing in Saudi Arabia and lost half a dozen planes there too.
This war is not going to end as long as Ukraine is being treated as the "experiment field".

Americans do worry about the Iranian drones and are trying to counter them in anyway possible. During the recent few weeks, a large number of Ukrainian military targets were hit with these drones and billions of USD worth of American and European weaponry went up in flames. And as per available information, Iran has transferred hundreds (if not thousands) of drones to Russia and the latter has vast majority of the stocks remaining. These drones (Shahed-136) have been a game changer, similar to the role played by HIMARs on the Ukrainian side.


I already once suggested that you start writing fairy tales - you have a strong fantasy Smiley

The reality is much different, however, as always Smiley
- On October 10, over 80 missiles and up to 100 kamikaze drones were fired in Ukraine, by the army of a terrorist country. It is a fact.
- Since Russia is losing the war, as ordinary terrorists, they have no choice but to carry out terrorist attacks against the civilian population. which they did. The goal was - infrastructure elements - thermal power plant, thermal power plant, power grid nodes, hydroelectric facilities. The idea of ​​the terrorists is as primitive as they are - to create the same conditions in Ukraine as the majority of the inhabitants of Russia Smiley

What and WHAT has been achieved?
ROCKETS damaged some of the indicated nodes, no one denies this. Moreover, some regions were left without electricity for several days. From my windows, I personally observed the arrival of a rocket at the thermal power plant, which is located on the territory of Kyiv, on the left bank, I even filmed a video.

What was destroyed and disabled by IRANIAN kamikaze drones, which "great Russia" was able to beg from a technologically more developed Iran Smiley But it was destroyed ... almost nothing! Know what's the problem? In the Iranian drones themselves:
1. They are very noisy, we have already "christened" them - "Iranian mopeds", because the sound of their flight can be heard almost 20 km away.
 
2. Low speed and high thermal "flare" gives them out well. As a result, up to 85% of these drones are now lost. Shoots down from .. SMALL weapons / machine guns Smiley

3. Drones have 2 guidance systems: inertial, low-precision and ... American GPS. And what is very important - the "shaheeds" do not have remote control and monitoring. This is a drone designed for a one-way trip and as simple as possible - an engine, 2 guidance systems, a fuel tank, an explosive supply (20-30 kg). And this means that in the EW or "GPS noise" coverage area, he switches to an inertial system, which simply tells him "we fly straight, in that direction", waiting for the GPS signal to appear. If it does not appear, the drone can simply crash into a tree, a barn, a pole, or even fall, because. the inertial system is primitive and does not take into account the features of the surface.

What is important - the amount of explosives on board the "shahid" - a small part really reached the set targets, but ..20-30 kilograms of explosive is a problem for a residential building, but not critical damage for industrial facilities. Even TEC, where there were 2 or 3 "shahid" hits, restored its work very quickly.

And the missiles, yes - they caused noticeable damage, because. Ukrainian air defense, of course, was not ready for such a massive launch. BUT. Most of the problems have already been fixed! Our partners are already supplying us with air defense and missile defense systems.

So Russian pensioners and others will soon pay out of their own pocket and with their lives for absolutely useless Russian under-rockets Smiley

PS Yes, we know that the "second army ... of the fourth world" has already begged for ballistic missiles from Iran. We know. But we are not afraid. We know that they will fly to us, but our goal is the destruction of the regime of world terrorism, and for this we will definitely fight. Until the victorious finale!
The terrorist country with its own hands has left us no other solution to the problem than the complete defeat of the terrorist army of Russia, the country of the international terrorist, now officially! Smiley
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