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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.

People that refused religion have killed more people than all religions have Roll Eyes so I think your the one with the fallacy dumbass.

The fallacy, my dear sir, is the basic idea of comparing murders based on religion, against those committed devoid of such a basis.  

You're presuming atheist atrocities "out-perform" atrocities based on religion, when the simple fact is an atrocity needs neither basis - instead, only that of the twisted (or 'anti-social', if such fallacious logic still rules this discussion) individual's (and those he/she have brainwashed) personal beliefs to cause such suffering.

Religion, sex, death, genocide, etc. etc. etc. - ALL CIRCUMSTANTIAL.  No one has any right whatsoever placing blame on a reason that can be used universally.


Investing some time in reading the book, 'A Brief History of the Paradox', may serve many here as good reference material when dealing with similarly pointless banter.

People that believe in a peaceful religion tend to not do shit that isn't peaceful while people that have no moral backing don't have any real restrictions besides personal which is very subjective.

The difference is Islam, of course. Why? Because Islam has violence directives right along with peace directives right in its holy writings.

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I don't consider Islam a religion of "peace". no matter how many times they play that narrative actions speak louder then words.
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Just because human beings have devolved over the last 2,000 years (as before), doesn't mean that the ethics lessons don't apply.
Exhibit A: butthurt theist displaying willful ignorance. Classic theist denial of reality. Easily debunked, easily despised.
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The difference is Islam, of course. Why? Because Islam has violence directives right along with peace directives right in its holy writings.
Haven't read the bible lately,  have you?

It's chock full of violence, how about when God sent those bears to maul and kill the kids making fun of the bald old man?

Sooner or later you're going to have to accept that any book written 2,000 years ago is going to contain ethics lessons that are outdated by 2,000 years.

Violence is one thing. Violence directives that apply to Christians today is something different. There aren't any Bible violence directives that apply to Christians or anybody present today. Yet, the Quran and some of the Hadiths have present-day directives to do violence.

Just because human beings have devolved over the last 2,000 years (as before), doesn't mean that the ethics lessons don't apply.

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The difference is Islam, of course. Why? Because Islam has violence directives right along with peace directives right in its holy writings.
Haven't read the bible lately,  have you?

It's chock full of violence, how about when God sent those bears to maul and kill the kids making fun of the bald old man?

Sooner or later you're going to have to accept that any book written 2,000 years ago is going to contain ethics lessons that are outdated by 2,000 years.
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A child becomes an adult when the circumstances of life require him to take on the thinking of an adult, or die. This often happens when a child is abandoned by his parents, or when he becomes like a war orphan.
I asked for a clear definition of a word, not this vague mushy bullshit about responsibility.

I say a child becomes an adult when he or she reaches puberty, this definition relies on the science of biology.

What's your definition?
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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.

People that refused religion have killed more people than all religions have Roll Eyes so I think your the one with the fallacy dumbass.

The fallacy, my dear sir, is the basic idea of comparing murders based on religion, against those committed devoid of such a basis.  

You're presuming atheist atrocities "out-perform" atrocities based on religion, when the simple fact is an atrocity needs neither basis - instead, only that of the twisted (or 'anti-social', if such fallacious logic still rules this discussion) individual's (and those he/she have brainwashed) personal beliefs to cause such suffering.

Religion, sex, death, genocide, etc. etc. etc. - ALL CIRCUMSTANTIAL.  No one has any right whatsoever placing blame on a reason that can be used universally.


Investing some time in reading the book, 'A Brief History of the Paradox', may serve many here as good reference material when dealing with similarly pointless banter.

People that believe in a peaceful religion tend to not do shit that isn't peaceful while people that have no moral backing don't have any real restrictions besides personal which is very subjective.

The difference is Islam, of course. Why? Because Islam has violence directives right along with peace directives right in its holy writings.

Smiley
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And what it's gonna be after the end of religion? End of civilization? What is the workld and society you proposing? It doesn't make any sense.
A whole lot less violent, that's what it'll be. More orgasms = less violence, I guarantee it.

Soviet Union refused religion and fell afterwards.
Weak analogy informal fallacy.

People that refused religion have killed more people than all religions have Roll Eyes so I think your the one with the fallacy dumbass.

The fallacy, my dear sir, is the basic idea of comparing murders based on religion, against those committed devoid of such a basis.  

You're presuming atheist atrocities "out-perform" atrocities based on religion, when the simple fact is an atrocity needs neither basis - instead, only that of the twisted (or 'anti-social', if such fallacious logic still rules this discussion) individual's (and those he/she have brainwashed) personal beliefs to cause such suffering.

Religion, sex, death, genocide, etc. etc. etc. - ALL CIRCUMSTANTIAL.  No one has any right whatsoever placing blame on a reason that can be used universally.


Investing some time in reading the book, 'A Brief History of the Paradox', may serve many here as good reference material when dealing with similarly pointless banter.

People that believe in a peaceful religion tend to not do shit that isn't peaceful while people that have no moral backing don't have any real restrictions besides personal which is very subjective.
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What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?
If you read any of the books I linked, you'd know that none of them are speculating on future legality, all of them are discussing scientific evidence of how and why we mate.


I personally, without ANY help from ANY books, believe adults should NEVER involve children in a (hypothetical) global sexual orgy because children are defined by nature and not by future legality
As a scientist it seems abundantly clear that nature's only definition is the transformation of puberty, which usually happens between ages 11-14.

That's easy for me to say it because I believe it.
It's easy for you to say because you haven't actually defined the word child. Please enlighten us, when does a child become an adult? Perhaps you have a better definition than nature has provided us after five hundred thousand years of evolution (trial and error)?

A child becomes an adult when the circumstances of life require him to take on the thinking of an adult, or die. This often happens when a child is abandoned by his parents, or when he becomes like a war orphan. The kids that are in such circumstance and survive, often become the wisest of adults.

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Does that mean a child becomes sexually mature when the parents die, automatically? Of course not. My question is not about social responsibilities but a vision of a world without any form of sexual limitations.

Child labor laws were defined because a child was able to work better in coal mines or difficult places for grown adult to reach. It was a bad law for many parents as the child was bringing food back home. That stopped. Who believes that was a bad law today?


There is not much to add when someone is asking you to define the word "child", or that "only real scientists" can.





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What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?
If you read any of the books I linked, you'd know that none of them are speculating on future legality, all of them are discussing scientific evidence of how and why we mate.


I personally, without ANY help from ANY books, believe adults should NEVER involve children in a (hypothetical) global sexual orgy because children are defined by nature and not by future legality
As a scientist it seems abundantly clear that nature's only definition is the transformation of puberty, which usually happens between ages 11-14.

That's easy for me to say it because I believe it.
It's easy for you to say because you haven't actually defined the word child. Please enlighten us, when does a child become an adult? Perhaps you have a better definition than nature has provided us after five hundred thousand years of evolution (trial and error)?

A child becomes an adult when the circumstances of life require him to take on the thinking of an adult, or die. This often happens when a child is abandoned by his parents, or when he becomes like a war orphan. The kids that are in such circumstance and survive, often become the wisest of adults.

Smiley
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What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?
If you read any of the books I linked, you'd know that none of them are speculating on future legality, all of them are discussing scientific evidence of how and why we mate.


I personally, without ANY help from ANY books, believe adults should NEVER involve children in a (hypothetical) global sexual orgy because children are defined by nature and not by future legality
As a scientist it seems abundantly clear that nature's only definition is the transformation of puberty, which usually happens between ages 11-14.

That's easy for me to say it because I believe it.
It's easy for you to say because you haven't actually defined the word child. Please enlighten us, when does a child become an adult? Perhaps you have a better definition than nature has provided us after five hundred thousand years of evolution (trial and error)?

This one is very generous for religion in the coming century. Note the Internet blew up in the 90s, and the subtle shift in the graph around that time.

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What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?
If you read any of the books I linked, you'd know that none of them are speculating on future legality, all of them are discussing scientific evidence of how and why we mate.


I personally, without ANY help from ANY books, believe adults should NEVER involve children in a (hypothetical) global sexual orgy because children are defined by nature and not by future legality

That's easy for me to say it because I believe it. Why is it so hard for you to say the same instead of "scientific evidence" this or "future legality" that?



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From Pew's The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050

The number of Muslims will nearly equal the number of Christians around the world. (perhaps Allah is trying to tell you something?)

Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.

The global Buddhist population will be about the same size it was in 2010, while the Hindu and Jewish populations will be larger than they are today.

In Europe, Muslims will make up 10% of the overall population.

India will retain a Hindu majority but also will have the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, surpassing Indonesia.
In the United States, Christians will decline from more than three-quarters of the population in 2010 to two-thirds in 2050, and Judaism will no longer be the largest non-Christian religion. Muslims will be more numerous in the U.S. than people who identify as Jewish on the basis of religion.

Four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa.

This means that your dream about the global orgy is never going to happen, and the society will grow more religious and conservative rather than becoming more liberal and non-religious as per your expectations. And regarding your point that 40% of the Christians will be living in sub-Saharan Africa -  by 2050, one-fourth of the world population will be in the sub-Saharan African region. So it is not surprising.
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What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?
If you read any of the books I linked, you'd know that none of them are speculating on future legality, all of them are discussing scientific evidence of how and why we mate, and/or the ethical considerations therein.
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I see only one way people like the OP can eliminate religions on the planet for good.
We need only wait for time to do its work. The death of all superstition is an inevitability in the information age.

Where exactly do you think these trends lead?










What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?

It is a simple question you can find in the books you are promoting I am sure....


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OP can post whatever he want, but the religious population is going to increase its proportion over the years.
From Pew's The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050

The number of Muslims will nearly equal the number of Christians around the world. (perhaps Allah is trying to tell you something?)

Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.

The global Buddhist population will be about the same size it was in 2010, while the Hindu and Jewish populations will be larger than they are today.

In Europe, Muslims will make up 10% of the overall population.

India will retain a Hindu majority but also will have the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, surpassing Indonesia.

In the United States, Christians will decline from more than three-quarters of the population in 2010 to two-thirds in 2050, and Judaism will no longer be the largest non-Christian religion. Muslims will be more numerous in the U.S. than people who identify as Jewish on the basis of religion.

Four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa.

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Number of followers (in millions)

Christianity   2,200   
Islam   1,800   
Hinduism   1,100   
Chinese traditional religion   754 — 1,000
Buddhism   488

Just keep it simple.

Here are the demographics:

Christianity and Islam: 3,800 million (53% of the world population)
Other religions: 2,267 million (31.6% of the world population)
Atheist / Non-religious: 1,100 million (15% of the world population)

And here is the future projection for 2050, from the Pew Research Center:

Christianity and Islam: 5,680 million (61% of the world population)
Other religions: 2,386 million (26% of the world population)
Atheist / Non-religious: 1,230 million (13% of the world population)

OP can post whatever he want, but the religious population is going to increase its proportion over the years.
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I see only one way people like the OP can eliminate religions on the planet for good.
We need only wait for time to do its work. The death of all superstition is an inevitability in the information age.

Where exactly do you think these trends lead?







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Number of followers (in millions)

Christianity   2,200   
Islam   1,800   
Hinduism   1,100   
Chinese traditional religion   754 — 1,000
Buddhism   488

Etc... Etc...


I see only one way people like the OP can eliminate religions on the planet for good.


Question for the OP: What would be the minimum age required to be accepted as a sexual partner in this N.G.O (new global orgy)?

If the OP does not see my posts can someone else ask the question?

TIA


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