Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 11. (Read 99368 times)

I like how Dana avoided those sharp corner in Aspinall vs Bones next fight On one hand it is yes they are fighting, and on the other he can always say that is how he see situation, but match makers and fighter performance decide who fights who next And if I was Aspinall, I would not be so happy about all that and call it success. It is a success but when he is fighting Bones? next summer? In a year? Wait till Bones finally decides to fight. It can last for years. And he would turn in Chandler, who was waiting for Conor for years. Depends on what contract they both will sign. With known opponent and date, or only agreement to fight.

This would be headshaking if everyone is beginning to speculate that the chicken legs of Jon Bones Jones is running away from Tom Aspinall hehehe. We can be certain that this is very much Jon Jones' tactic to get more money from uncle Dana because Jon has clearly observed that the fight against Tom the moonface Aspinall is what the fans has been demanding.

I predict that this will certainly be a victory for the chicken legs Jon of the bones of the Jones heheheh. Everyone is believing in this hype on Tom Aspinall, however, the contrarian me certainly disagrees.

I think people will remember the co-main event more than the main event at UFC 309. There was nothing exciting about someone wanting to fight a 42-year-old UFC retiree. And what was even more surprising was that at UFC 309 they legalized elbows 12-6 and went back to the old gloves. It was like the UFC gave Jones everything he wanted. I remember the new gloves made it harder for fighters to get eye pokes. Yeah the Chandler vs Oliveira fight saved UFC 309. It was a really interesting fight. Oliveira couldn't really submit Chandler. And the fight got interesting when Chandler took Oliveira to the canvas. I thought it was over but Oliveira survived. Respect to the referee for not stopping the fight right away.

Instead of talking about Jones running away from Aspinall, we are talking about Jones wanting to fight Perreira. I think Jones got what he wanted both inside and outside the ring. Inside the ring he beat a 42-year-old fireman, outside the ring he directed the discussion to where he wanted it to go. We understand the importance of decentralized systems in this kind of organization. We could have seen a fairer fight for the belt if it was a decentralized organization...

By the way, Charles Oliveira had a great finish that saved 309's honor. Michael Chandler tried hard to throw Charles Oliveira off his back, but Charles saved the night by kissing Chandler...

Some people say Jon Jones is a loser for choosing to fight Miocic and I think everyone already knows that Miocic has only a 1% chance of beating Jones. Honestly I don't see any fighting spirit in Miocic. He seems to think about fighting, getting paid and then going home to enjoy time with his family. Yes Miocic should retire and leave his legacy as one of the GOATs in UFC.

And for the match against Pereira, of course Chama is one of the best fighters today. And that is a worthy opponent for Jones. But I think Jones is better off fighting Aspinall to prove himself as one of the best fighters in UFC. If he fights Pereira I think Jones knows Pereira is weak on the ground and Jones is a fighter with very good striking and grappling. This is similar to the Jones vs Gane fight where Jones can apply the strategy of grappling and playing on the ground with Pereira. As far as I remember Pereira is a kickboxer and not very good at Jiujitsu even though he is from Brazil.

IMO Chandler is the most entertaining fighter right now. He really gives the fights that fans are waiting for. I think Chandler has managed to get appreciation from fans including me. All of Chandler's fights in UFC are really not boring. His fights against Oliveira 1, Porier, and Justin were very interesting even though he lost. Especially his fight with Justin which was like watching a Gladiator fight. And his wins against Hooker and Tony with brutal knockouts also made everyone crazy. I think so far Chandler's fights will always be awaited by UFC fans. Because he doesn't seem to want to give a boring fight. On the other hand Chandler is a good company man. And of course Uncle Dana really likes him.

Tom Aspinall has a YT channel.  Go watch his 309 video.  He kept filming til after the event when he was still around the arena waiting for Dana White and the top brass of the UFC.  After the meeting and the way the video ended, it looks like Jones vs Aspinall is next.  

Aspinall said 'success'.  So I guess we'll see it happen at international fight week next summer.    I'm gonna bet on whoever is gonna be the underdog.  

Oliveira vs Chandler was the only good match from all top fights in main card. Despite that one punch and those falls on the back while Oliveira was on the back (seems more entertaining than effective), Chandler did not show anything. With such form, McGregor is the only one who Chandler could beat. Many think that Chandler is so cool, but he has 1-4 in last 5 fights and the only guy he has beaten was old Ferguson. My question is, should Chandler really be so high in ranking?

Not the best way to end Stipe's career, but at 42 years old, we already know that it's time for him to hang his gloves, and he said it straightforward when Joe Rogan asked him. No further explanation - straight to the point he said that he's retiring. I think this is expected already that Jones will win, but I didn't expect that it will last 3 rounds. I mean I expected that it will end in just 1 round. Nevertheless, it's an impressive win still. Some UFC fans want Jones and Aspinall to fight, but if I remember correctly, Jones already stated that he wants to fight Pereira. I don't know which is which at this one, but whoever Jones will be fighting, for sure it will be a blockbuster fight yet again.

Not being said here, but I'm amazed on how friendly Oliveira is with his opponents. I mean it's not the usual that we are seeing on a fighter. He's shaking hands his opponents and his team - something that most of the UFC fighters aren't doing. I wonder if Charles has a beef with other fighters with how friendly he is with them.

It was a total domination of Jon Jones.
I expected to see more from Miocic but we badly hurt in first round and everything went down the hill for him.
Maybe long break was the reason but at 42 years I think it was the right decisions for Miocic to finally retire from MMA.
Jones is not young as well but I think he has few years of good fighting in him.
Who is next for Jones? Aspinall? Gane? Alex Pereira?
 

Jones Vs Stipe - as expected. Some say Jones looked a bit slowish but I think he did really good. You could tell he wasn't rushing and wanted the fight to last for at least few rounds, if he was to step on the gas pedal early, he would've finished Stipe in rd 1. As for Stipe, to nobody's surprise, he isn't the guy he used to be. His age and long break took their toll. He had a great career and it was a dream last fight.

No official announcement as of yet, but from what Dana, Tom, and partially Jon all said post-fight, we will almost definitely see Jones Vs Aspinall next (unless Jones wants too much or decides to retire). And that's good news.

Since it is Jones who wants to fight Pereira then let him go down to LW, let him dry out, and see if he is determined. But I'm not Pereira. If he is eyeing for a big payday, then Jones vs Pereira it is. Chama.

Oliveira keeps trying to choke Chandler even when he could actually beat Chandler down and KO him in the first few rounds. It looks like he is betting on submitting Chandler that he kept trying.

Yes, even though he doesn't look healthy.
He will be the first triple UFC champion, maybe even if he doesn't want to do this, that is, even if he doesn't want to gain weight and go up to the upper weight class, the audience and the UFC will force him to go up to heavyweight.
When he goes up to heavyweight, the level will be very different for him. All I have to say is CHAMA.

I think that it's all fake and that's very clear. Jon Jones says he doesn't want to fight Tom Aspinal, he basically admits that he is frightened but Dana White, in front of Jon Jones, says that the winner should definitely fight to Tom Aspinal and then Jon is like, woah. It's all fake, they are trying to build HYPE but it looks so fake and unnatural, we all know that Dana wouldn't say that without talking with Jon Jones at first. C'mon, he is Jon's gf after all

If I was Pereira, I wouldn't move in heavyweight. First of all, heavyweight is more dangerous because of higher weight and second of all, Pereira is in his late 30s. He is in a great shape, has a low body fat levels. If he gains weight, it will be harder for him to lose it later and weight is not good for our health, nor for our appearance.

^  Yeah, I kinda knew that Nickal vs Craig would disappoint.  The over 1.5 rounds was good value.  As said, Craig didn't allow himself to be pushed around.

As for Jones' performance, I was kinda disappointed too tbh.  He looked slow and flat up there.  I think Aspinall could give Jones a run for his money.

But yeah, here's the post fight press conference.  Let's see what the Dana White and Jones have to say...

UFC 309:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLl4BSI2cOg

So, are you happy with the result and performance?

I will start from the far. Even prelims and early prelims looked better than main card. My main disappointment was Nickal vs Craig fight. For me this fight was boring. I havent looked for stats, but it looked that they walked most of the fight. Craig spammed with left kick mostly, Nickal with same punch and overhand combo. Why dont they wrestle? Where is all action?

Lets not forget that Bones was a lightheavy first and he was sort of a forced to gain. Wasnt UFC hyping (just hyping) about Bones vs Ngannou and forced him to gain. Then he won a heavyweight title in his heavyweight debut. Historically, he is still a LH champ, as he did not lost title but vacated it. His fight against Pereira is a perfect for hype. Pereira might become first triple UFC champ, or Bones could become active double champ. And hold it by not fighting anyone for years

Yeah...  But here's the thing, if Jones doesn't accept the UFC's proposal of him and Aspinall then we know Jones is dead serious.  But if he does accept the match up then we know it's just all mind games from Jones.  So we'll see.  I mean I they go at it and fight but I also wouldn't mind Jones vs Pereira or Aspinall vs Pereira.

Here's the last vid to watch before the event.  GL all you degens. 

UFC 309:  Ceremonial Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqVD1PkBXrA

There was nothing Jon could've possibly said in that situation. And Dana gave the only answer he could give. If the UFC was to allow Jones to fight anyone else than the interim belt holder and still keep his heavyweight belt, all the belts and rankings would be meaningless.

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Apparently, there was some bad blood between Jones and Stipe. Jon blamed Stipe for saying something about his family and he refused to shake his hand during the first face-off. But they shook hands during the ceremonial weigh-in.

Jon didn't say anything when Dana said the winner would fight Tom. I doubt Pereira and him will really fight too so this is his last dance. Dana makes it sound like Jones is active all the time but yep I guess it's a cue that as long as he is active according to Dana, Jones is the GOAT.

2.30 for Bo. They can wrestle together and might struggle to fight the big guy like Craig.

Yeah... I saw the pre fight press conference face offs and it looks like Paul Craig looks like he won't allow himself to be pushed around by Bo Nickal.  But we'll see.  I could be wrong.  Lol.

And from the press conference, Jones said that he already told everyone what he thinks of Aspinall and a what he thinks about the UFC matching them up.  It looks like he wants Alex Pereira next.

Watch the vids here...

UFC 309:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H54wGhBlTGc

UFC 309:  Jon Jones Media Day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BgF1LCqDoM

Official weigh ins in under a couple of hours folks...  Tune in.

UFC 309:  Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgFvd4ySKE