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Quote from: Synchronice on December 18, 2024, 09:23:00 AM

Guys, does anyone know how Khabib become an UFC fighter? He is from Dagestan, which is part of the Russia and the relationship between Russia and the USA was never good. He is from a poor family and it should have been very hard to almost impossible to travel in the USA, let alone the fact that they got the US visa. Khabib wasn't popular for a long time, he became popular slowly, so who was paying for his expanses? How did the US let him to stay in America? This topic is very interesting for me because in FIFA WC 2026 thread, many people talk about how hard it is to travel in the USA from non-US ally countries because of strict visa restrictions and today we see lots of Russian and foreign fighters living in the US.

As it usually happens, he did not pop up in the UFC out of nowhere. He has 29 official fights in his record, most of which (16) were fought in Russian organisations before ho got a contract from the UFC.
I don't think there were any special tensions between the US and Russia back when he signed his contract and I don't think obtaining a visa was that hard either, especially when the UFC most likely has a dedicated team to help the foreign fighters out in all the legal work. I believe there are special rules for visas for professional athletes but it's also possible that they got employer-sponsored visas or letters of invitation from the UFC. Anyhow, I don't think it was ever a real problem, I've heard about fighters struggling to get vias on time, when fighting on short notice, but not about obtaining them at all.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 17, 2024, 04:52:08 PM

My nomination for the fail of the year is McGregor with his failed return and all the shit in his private life.

He was busy with other things in his private life, with lawsuit and he was talking about getting into politics.
I just heard the news he is coming back but first he is going to fight the money fight against Logan Paul.
He confirmed that rumors about fight against Topuria was false Grin

https://www.gosubetting.com/blog/betting-news/conor-mcgregor-announces-logan-paul-fight-before-ufc-return/

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 17, 2024, 04:52:08 PM

Quote from: cabron on December 16, 2024, 12:15:12 PM

The decision to stop I think was a bad call after all because they just cheated Buckley for a legitimate KO finish against this pretentious division superstar.

If we are to believe the lady doctor, who stopped the fight, she said that Colby could lose his eyelid if he were to carry on. If that's true, that was a good stoppage.
Dana White didn't seem to agree with the decision, saying something along the lines that if it was in Vegas, the fight would continue.

I have not heard anyone lose an eyelid but ye bloody fight has to stop. I was just saying that because the guy still manages to brag an excuse that he was warning up already like if it wasn't stopped he could win the fight. Dana not agreeing is just to show he has nothing to do with the stoppage.

Quote from: Synchronice on December 18, 2024, 09:23:00 AM

Guys, does anyone know how Khabib become an UFC fighter? He is from Dagestan, which is part of the Russia and the relationship between Russia and the USA was never good. He is from a poor family and it should have been very hard to almost impossible to travel in the USA, let alone the fact that they got the US visa. Khabib wasn't popular for a long time, he became popular slowly, so who was paying for his expanses? How did the US let him to stay in America? This topic is very interesting for me because in FIFA WC 2026 thread, many people talk about how hard it is to travel in the USA from non-US ally countries because of strict visa restrictions and today we see lots of Russian and foreign fighters living in the US.

Also, does anyone know a thing about Dvalishvili? As far as I know, he was an illegal migrant, how did he manage to live in the US? Did UFC let him fight despite the fact that he was illegally there?

Where have you been all these years? It's over, Khabib is no longer fighting and he has been going back and forth to US since. UFC would do anything to make the sport exciting. If they have to import the whole Dagestani family, they will find a way.

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Guys, does anyone know how Khabib become an UFC fighter? He is from Dagestan, which is part of the Russia and the relationship between Russia and the USA was never good. He is from a poor family and it should have been very hard to almost impossible to travel in the USA, let alone the fact that they got the US visa. Khabib wasn't popular for a long time, he became popular slowly, so who was paying for his expanses? How did the US let him to stay in America? This topic is very interesting for me because in FIFA WC 2026 thread, many people talk about how hard it is to travel in the USA from non-US ally countries because of strict visa restrictions and today we see lots of Russian and foreign fighters living in the US.

Also, does anyone know a thing about Dvalishvili? As far as I know, he was an illegal migrant, how did he manage to live in the US? Did UFC let him fight despite the fact that he was illegally there?

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 25, 2024, 01:05:31 AM

Here is a nice motivational Friday video for you guys: https://www.tiktok.com/@ufc/video/7429359862032715039?_t=8qoid86cysj&_r=1

This is how the start is born. This is what follow to your dream looks like. The guy flew to UFC, found Dana attention and asked for a contract. https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/174724-dorobshokh-nabotov This is this guys profile. There is a continuation of this story. Chan Sung Jung (Korean Zombie) is organizing contender series for UFC in Korea on YouTube. Dana made this Nabotov have a fight there, and if wins, he will get UFC contract. Hope that Nabotovs dream finally comes true.

Remember that story? It was on hype in social media for few days. To bad this guys dream did not come true. Fighter who begged Dana White for UFC contract loses and opponent is signed instead. We know that Dana not always should be trust, but if what he says is true, then he has avoided signing a problem fighter to UFC Cheesy

And this is a proof that 8-0 record in local promotion might be nothing in UFC Cheesy

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Quote from: cabron on December 16, 2024, 12:15:12 PM

The decision to stop I think was a bad call after all because they just cheated Buckley for a legitimate KO finish against this pretentious division superstar.

If we are to believe the lady doctor, who stopped the fight, she said that Colby could lose his eyelid if he were to carry on. If that's true, that was a good stoppage.
Dana White didn't seem to agree with the decision, saying something along the lines that if it was in Vegas, the fight would continue.

Quote from: Synchronice on December 16, 2024, 03:48:30 PM

How on earth are Ilia Topuria and Arman Tsarukyan the same height? To be honest, I thought that you were kidding but I really googled it and both of them are listed as 170 cm.

Same. I thought TopTort was just making things up, so I went to check and found out it was true lol

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 17, 2024, 07:52:57 AM

1) Fight of the year
2) KO of the year
3) Submission of the year
4) Fighter of the year (Bones? Cheesy

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5) Fail of the year
...

I have a memory of a goldfish and can't remember much from the first half of the year, but the KO of the year has to be Holloway Vs Gaethje.
My nomination for the fail of the year is McGregor with his failed return and all the shit in his private life.

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We have almost a month until next event. Plenty of time, so it could be no worth discussing next events, as all will be forgotten. Instead I can offer to share thoughts about year 2024 for UFC, name memorable fights, knockouts, submissions, disappointments. Maybe it is too early to do that, but Xmas is in one week, and time till New Year will pass quickly also. Some of you might not be as active on the forum as usually.

We can start with creating categories:

1) Fight of the year
2) KO of the year
3) Submission of the year
4) Fighter of the year (Bones? Cheesy

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5) Fail of the year
...

Some extra info about UFC in 2024 can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_in_UFC

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 16, 2024, 10:47:40 AM

And it actually looked like that Cheesy

Even in the pre-fight interview he has said that he will rely a lot on his stamina and wrestling which he has been training for years. The fight looked more like a beating and it did not look like Colby is #6 of whole division. I can also that I wasnt following Colby career lately, last thing I've heard was his controversies with Masvidal, and all of a sudden I see him in a main event. At least I have heard that he was on a short notice

Well then... All the same. He should retire. His head just isn't in the game anymore. But if he really decides to continue, then he'll like a gatekeeper or something and he'll never have a title run again.

But yeah, he prolly made enough money to retire unless he's splurging a lot of money on useless things.

Here's a promo vid for 311...

UFC 311: Makhachev vs. Tsarukyan 2 Promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrYa7vsjhGs

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Quote from: Synchronice on December 16, 2024, 03:48:30 PM

Quote from: notblox1 on December 13, 2024, 03:22:53 PM

If we look at retired Khabib Nurmagomedov he was 5'10" or 178cm, but he has a lot of problems with weight cutting.

I've always wondered, why does Khabib find it hard to lose weight? He should be very healthy (no diabetes), he also should have high testosterone levels because he trains professionally. Then here is the Paddy Pimblett who gets more fat than pig itself and loses weight within weeks like he was always the skinniest dude. I'm shocked with Paddy's weight loss transformations.

Isnt it hereditary? Genes? Look at his father:

Isnt the most fit person or body-builder with 6pack.

Look at his father when he was younger:

Wrestling machine with wide shoulders. Look how slim face is.

Even earlier photo of Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov

What I think Khabib is getting older, and his body, that was in stress of intense training and cutting weight (because all his pre-UFC career he was participating in a tournament or had a pro fight every 1-2 months), now compensates everything it has lost. A kind of a protection mechanism. It is preparing for cutting torment, so it gains to protect muscles Cheesy

So to say works ahead of the curve.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 13, 2024, 03:22:53 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on December 12, 2024, 05:35:18 PM

Topuria is a bit small for the lightweight, he's 8cm shorter than Islam (according to Wikipedia) but his reach disadvantage is only 3cm, so it's not all that bad. And if Volkanovski could put up a good fight against Islam, so can Ilia.

You dont need to be a big tall fighter in lighweight division, for example Arman Tsarukyan is the same height as Topuria, and he is ranked second in this UFC division.
With being shorter means that you can have more little more muscle mass than taller guys, and it is easier to cut weight before the fight.

How on earth are Ilia Topuria and Arman Tsarukyan the same height? To be honest, I thought that you were kidding but I really googled it and both of them are listed as 170 cm. How is that possible? Arman definitely looks way bigger than Ilia. I can't believe it, I have to see both of them standing next to each other. Even Islam was joking that he is tired of giving chances to small guys when they asked him about fight against Ilia and Arman didn't look small when he stood in front of him while Ilia looks really small.

Quote from: notblox1 on December 13, 2024, 03:22:53 PM

If we look at retired Khabib Nurmagomedov he was 5'10" or 178cm, but he has a lot of problems with weight cutting.

I've always wondered, why does Khabib find it hard to lose weight? He should be very healthy (no diabetes), he also should have high testosterone levels because he trains professionally. Then here is the Paddy Pimblett who gets more fat than pig itself and loses weight within weeks like he was always the skinniest dude. I'm shocked with Paddy's weight loss transformations.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 16, 2024, 10:47:40 AM

And it actually looked like that Cheesy

Even in the pre-fight interview he has said that he will rely a lot on his stamina and wrestling which he has been training for years. The fight looked more like a beating and it did not look like Colby is #6 of whole division. I can also that I wasnt following Colby career lately, last thing I've heard was his controversies with Masvidal, and all of a sudden I see him in a main event. At least I have heard that he was on a short notice

Damn! And we thought Buckley humbled Colby after the beat-up. He was just warming up and was taking down Buckley and using his blood strategically. Nice try. Later in his tweets, we might see that he is already claiming Buckley cheated him just as he claimed Usman cheated him.

The decision to stop I think was a bad call after all because they just cheated Buckley for a legitimate KO finish against this pretentious division superstar.

I wander what Trump would feel upon hearing this. Its Trumps fault.

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And it actually looked like that Cheesy

Even in the pre-fight interview he has said that he will rely a lot on his stamina and wrestling which he has been training for years. The fight looked more like a beating and it did not look like Colby is #6 of whole division. I can also that I wasnt following Colby career lately, last thing I've heard was his controversies with Masvidal, and all of a sudden I see him in a main event. At least I have heard that he was on a short notice

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Quote from: cabron on December 15, 2024, 11:53:35 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on December 15, 2024, 07:42:06 AM

So... Yeah lol. Covington is washed. I think the doctor's stoppage saved him from further ridicule in the cage. He should retire now.

Here are the results.

Joaquin Buckley def Colby Covington
Cub Swanson def Billy Quarantillo
Manel Kape def Bruno Gustavo da Silva
Dustin Jacoby def Vitor Petrino
Daniel Marcos def Adrian Yañez
Navajo Stirling def Tuco Tokkos
Michael Johnson def Ottman Azaitar
Joel Álvarez def Drakkar Klose
Sean Woodson def Fernando Padilla
Felipe Lima def Miles Johns
Miranda Maverick def Jamey-Lyn Horth
Davey Grant def Ramon Taveras
Piera Rodríguez def Josefine Lindgren Knutsson

There won't be any events until Jan 11...

The cut on Covington's eyes is already a disadvantage in the first few minutes of the first round. The bleeding didn't stop, fight had to be stopped. Not a good fight to watch with all that blood.

Manel Kape put on a big show despite Silva kicking his balls for the 3rd time. This match made people stand up everyone was waiting for something to happen. It's a wonder why his win wasn't the performance of the night. He wants Pantoja rematch.

The veteran Cub Swanson looks good in this retirement fight.

Yeah Manel Kape is a pretty good fighter but he's mostly low volume... Until the fight against Silva. I hope he keeps it up and he gives everybody the same kind of performance from here on forth. He has the skill to beat Pantoja imho. And I hope he's a huge underdog. Wink

And not just Swanson... Check out Jacoby's KO vs Petrino! Lmao.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 14, 2024, 06:12:14 PM

Any thoughts on the recent grappling match between Tsarukyan and Chimaev that kind of went viral?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57toQozqXKs

I don't quite understand how were they allowed to do that. I hear it was some part of a Russian reality show. Did they get a green light by the UFC, or was the (alleged) reality show actually produced by the UFC (i.e. a Russian version of the Ultimate Fighter?). Anyone has any more info on that?

Anyhow, Khamzat clearly dominated and pushed Arman to defense. The big size difference surely played its part, but I think Khamzat wrestling skills were also a bit higher. I'd really like to see him against Bo Nickal at some point.

Yes, this is a kind of reality show, but a total trash. The goal of this show is to put most aggressive fighters and create conflicts out of nothing. This has nothing to do with UFC, all that is sort of a low level mma promotions, whos goal is to promote casinos, which seems to be illegal or shady. All those fighters and those who organize promote their variation of Mine game (doubt it has license) in telegram. They get referral rewards and etc.

But as to Tsarukyan and Chimaev, it wasnt really a match, more like a warm-up match. How UFC gave it a green light? I guess UFC dont know much about it. Fighters spend time in gyms, spar there, and that from video is a kind of a light sparring, that happened on a show and cameras was accidentally nearby Cheesy

It is also said, that they have received 20 million Russian rubbles (around 185k bucks) for being coaches on that show. But they only come, do some talks and disappear. Fighters are left alone and do crazy stuff. And that is the format of this show: push someone, make conflict, sucker punch someone or come from the back and choke him till guy falls asleep, grab knifes and threaten everyone. Wild people with wild manners. Most of them are from mountain regions.

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Quote from: cabron on December 15, 2024, 11:53:35 AM

The cut on Covington's eyes is already a disadvantage in the first few minutes of the first round. The bleeding didn't stop, fight had to be stopped. Not a good fight to watch with all that blood.

Yup, he was compromised from early on, and he could use that as an excuse, but it's not like the cut was accidental or a result of an illegal move. It was the result of Colby getting beaten up by Buckley.
I think Colby just lost a desire to fight, possibly quite a long time ago, he fights sporadically, and in this one, just as in the Edwards fight, he was lacking the edge, looked bit sluggish and was ineffective in his takedown attempts.
After his loss to Leon, he called out Stephen Thompson, who was ripe for retirement and ranked much lower than him, so, to me, it was a sign he didn't have much confidence in his abilities anymore and wasn't aiming very high. After the last night's fight, I think Covington Vs Thompson would be a decent match up, after which, the defeated one could announce his retirement.

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 15, 2024, 07:42:06 AM

So... Yeah lol. Covington is washed. I think the doctor's stoppage saved him from further ridicule in the cage. He should retire now.

Here are the results.

Joaquin Buckley def Colby Covington
Cub Swanson def Billy Quarantillo
Manel Kape def Bruno Gustavo da Silva
Dustin Jacoby def Vitor Petrino
Daniel Marcos def Adrian Yañez
Navajo Stirling def Tuco Tokkos
Michael Johnson def Ottman Azaitar
Joel Álvarez def Drakkar Klose
Sean Woodson def Fernando Padilla
Felipe Lima def Miles Johns
Miranda Maverick def Jamey-Lyn Horth
Davey Grant def Ramon Taveras
Piera Rodríguez def Josefine Lindgren Knutsson

There won't be any events until Jan 11...

The cut on Covington's eyes is already a disadvantage in the first few minutes of the first round. The bleeding didn't stop, fight had to be stopped. Not a good fight to watch with all that blood.

Manel Kape put on a big show despite Silva kicking his balls for the 3rd time. This match made people stand up everyone was waiting for something to happen. It's a wonder why his win wasn't the performance of the night. He wants Pantoja rematch.

The veteran Cub Swanson looks good in this retirement fight.

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It was the last UFC night of the year and the main event was a bit dull. But by whom? By Colby. Cheesy

It would have been better if he had retired before this match.
I guess it was because it was his last match in the UFC anyway, even if he continued, the UFC wouldn't want to sign him to a contract or anything like that again.

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So... Yeah lol. Covington is washed. I think the doctor's stoppage saved him from further ridicule in the cage. He should retire now.

Here are the results.

Joaquin Buckley def Colby Covington
Cub Swanson def Billy Quarantillo
Manel Kape def Bruno Gustavo da Silva
Dustin Jacoby def Vitor Petrino
Daniel Marcos def Adrian Yañez
Navajo Stirling def Tuco Tokkos
Michael Johnson def Ottman Azaitar
Joel Álvarez def Drakkar Klose
Sean Woodson def Fernando Padilla
Felipe Lima def Miles Johns
Miranda Maverick def Jamey-Lyn Horth
Davey Grant def Ramon Taveras
Piera Rodríguez def Josefine Lindgren Knutsson

There won't be any events until Jan 11...

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 13, 2024, 03:22:53 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on December 12, 2024, 05:35:18 PM

Topuria is a bit small for the lightweight, he's 8cm shorter than Islam (according to Wikipedia) but his reach disadvantage is only 3cm, so it's not all that bad. And if Volkanovski could put up a good fight against Islam, so can Ilia.

You dont need to be a big tall fighter in lighweight division, for example Arman Tsarukyan is the same height as Topuria, and he is ranked second in this UFC division.
With being shorter means that you can have more little more muscle mass than taller guys, and it is easier to cut weight before the fight.
If we look at retired Khabib Nurmagomedov he was 5'10" or 178cm, but he has a lot of problems with weight cutting.

Yes you are right for the lightweight division fighter does not need to have tall and big body unless he is heavyweight fighter because if heavyweight fighter has short body then it will look so fat and even have slow fighting style because it is less aagile
But isn't it the other way around, because short people for the lightweight class can have more muscle mass and those fighters with taller bodies for the lightweight class will reduce muscle mass less to maintain body weight proportions, look at people with quite tall bodies in the lightweight class must have small posture and not so much muscle mass, moreover in every division the most important thing is about weight not height.

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Any thoughts on the recent grappling match between Tsarukyan and Chimaev that kind of went viral?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57toQozqXKs

I don't quite understand how were they allowed to do that. I hear it was some part of a Russian reality show. Did they get a green light by the UFC, or was the (alleged) reality show actually produced by the UFC (i.e. a Russian version of the Ultimate Fighter?). Anyone has any more info on that?

Anyhow, Khamzat clearly dominated and pushed Arman to defense. The big size difference surely played its part, but I think Khamzat wrestling skills were also a bit higher. I'd really like to see him against Bo Nickal at some point.

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