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^ Charles Oliveira is kinda chinny. If anybody wants to take a shot at Chandler make it Chandler via KO to get a better line. Remember their first fight? Oliveira almost got finished in R1 if Chandler had more time to beat Oliveira down.

UFC Free Fight: Charles Oliveira vs Michael Chandler 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcpXWVBL78

I think Bo Nickal via KO could be a decent gamble too if it opens at 2.50 or higher. I don't think Nickal could win via SUB against Craig. Nickal should be careful on the mat vs the guy.

Anyway here's jeremypwr's Multi Master. It's open for everybody.

UFC 309: Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-309-multi-master-challenge-16-november-free-for-all-5517841

And here's one of Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul. Lol. Didn't know this is still happening. Cheesy

Saturday Boxing Prediction Contest: Paul vs Tyson
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Guys, have you seen UFC 309 odds ? Cheesy

Bones 1.15, Miocic 5.6 Cheesy

How often do you see that formed champ has such low odds ? Cheesy

Oliveira vs Chandler isnt a great difference. Chandler is also a huge underdog. Also wonder what forced Chandler to change his mind and stop waiting for Conor? Mortgage ? Cheesy

Family that bothered him that hey are hungry? Cheesy

Been waiting for +1.5 years and now accepted fight against opponent, who will probably choke him.

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I think that somehow people are fed up or bored with Jones Jones is goat theme. Or maybe I pay little attention (or google/social media engines does not show me so much ufc content as they used to) to this event. Other story is that like tokeweed said, main event is boring. Not the kind of match-up community expected. I am even more interested in who will replace Belal on ufc 310, than watching how Bones finish Miocic in first round. I guess that will be a submission in less than 3 minutes.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 11, 2024, 03:11:00 AM

UFC 309

Date: November 17, 2024

Early Prelims: Sun, Nov 17 / 1:00 AM GMT+2
Preliminary Card: Sun, Nov 17 / 3:00 AM GMT+2
Main Card: Sun, Nov 17 / 5:00 AM GMT+2

Venue: Madison Square Garden

Main card (ESPN)
Heavyweight: Jon Jones vs. Stipe Miocic
Lightweight: Charles Oliveira vs. Michael Chandler
Women's Flyweight: Viviane Araújo vs. Karine Silva
Middleweight: Bo Nickal vs. Paul Craig
Lightweight: Mauricio Ruffy vs. James Llontop

Preliminary card (ESPN)
Bantamweight: Jonathan Martinez vs. Marcus McGhee
Middleweight: Chris Weidman vs. Eryk Anders
Lightweight: Jim Miller vs. Damon Jackson

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Heavyweight: Marcin Tybura vs. Jhonata Diniz
Welterweight: Mickey Gall vs. Ramiz Brahimaj
Welterweight: Bassil Hafez vs. Oban Elliot
Women's Flyweight: Veronica Hardy vs. Eduarda Moura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_309

Main card is good even tho the main event is kinda weak. Prelims are pretty good too... But the early prelims kinda suck. But all in all, couldn't complain. A weekend of betting on the UFC is always good.

Here's the countdown vid to complement the roster. Wink

UFC 309: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XIaiNRIuvg

Here are some replays to watch.

UFC Free Fight: Jon Jones vs Ciryl Gane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPGCrrNG6Gw

UFC Free Fight: Stipe Miocic vs Junior Dos Santos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3dlez-rbvY

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 08, 2024, 04:38:14 PM

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I agree with you. If Jon Jones insists on fighting Miocic saying that Miocic is the GOAT I think that is bullshit. Miocic is past his prime and he is no longer the Miocic he was when he was the GOAT. Jones knows that and he only picks opponents that he can beat. Fighting Pereira is also bullshit because even though Pereira is one of the greatest fighters in the middleweight division, he can move up to LHW but there is no way he can make weight and move up to HW. Most fighters who try to move up usually can't fight like they did in the main division. Maybe Jones can fight Pereira at LHW but then again I think Jones' best fight before he retires is against Aspinall to prove himself as the heavyweight GOAT or even one of the UFC GOATs.

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UFC 309

Date: November 17, 2024

Early Prelims: Sun, Nov 17 / 1:00 AM GMT+2
Preliminary Card: Sun, Nov 17 / 3:00 AM GMT+2
Main Card: Sun, Nov 17 / 5:00 AM GMT+2

Venue: Madison Square Garden

Main card (ESPN)
Heavyweight: Jon Jones vs. Stipe Miocic
Lightweight: Charles Oliveira vs. Michael Chandler
Women's Flyweight: Viviane Araújo vs. Karine Silva
Middleweight: Bo Nickal vs. Paul Craig
Lightweight: Mauricio Ruffy vs. James Llontop

Preliminary card (ESPN)
Bantamweight: Jonathan Martinez vs. Marcus McGhee
Middleweight: Chris Weidman vs. Eryk Anders
Lightweight: Jim Miller vs. Damon Jackson

Early preliminary card (ESPN+ / UFC Fight Pass)
Heavyweight: Marcin Tybura vs. Jhonata Diniz
Welterweight: Mickey Gall vs. Ramiz Brahimaj
Welterweight: Bassil Hafez vs. Oban Elliot
Women's Flyweight: Veronica Hardy vs. Eduarda Moura

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_309

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 10, 2024, 03:44:01 AM

I was wrong when said tha this event would be a filler Grin

co-main and main events were actually great. De Ridder debut in UFC: he was a double champ from different promotion, and when such champs comes to UFC, their performance isnt really that great. His opponent was actually dangerous, 29 from 38 wins were by submission. And De Ridder managed to submit such guy. And Pratos with 4-0 UFC record chops down gate keeper Magny in first round with rather brutal KO. First impression on Pratos after wikipedia info - a noname, as he has got no page Grin

second impression, guy comes with a series of 11 wins.

Prates left is the weapon, it wasn't even a clean shot but Magny just fell.
DeRidder obviously doesn't have the standing advantage, but he managed to knock down Meerschaert in the last seconds of R1. Meer was saved by the bell. Both guys move slow actually compared to the top fighters in the MW, I don't see De Ridder winning against top ones even against Cannonier but maybe he will dominate if his opponent engages in grappling.

There are 2 who got thier win in their UFC debut De Ridde and Mansur Abdul-Malik seem like Strickland's protege.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 08, 2024, 04:55:17 AM

We are pretty silent last days Cheesy

Its time to cheer up this place.

Have you heard about recent Conor McGregor scandal? Sexual assault. What do you think about it? Fake and someone just wants a piece of McGregor money pie? Or sounds true, as he, with all those alco around him, is really able to lose control. Or media created fake news on purpose?

UFC g.o.a.t. has a week to screw his return/last fight. What can we expect after that fight actually? Finally retire? Fight Aspinall? Avoid him like a plague? Cheesy

Of course I have heard, I use TikTok exclusively to watch UFC highlights because I don't pay for ESPN subscription and TikTok was full of those allegations against him.
I think, those allegations are fake because it's pretty known for everyone that woman have a huge advantage over men in everything, including laws and many women try to haunt rich men. They try to get some money from them by doing shameful things because law is on their side and they lose nothing but gain millions of dollars most of the time.

I think that Dana White's BF, aka Jon Jones, will not fight Tom Aspinall because let's be clear, there is a very high chance that Jon Jones will lose. He knows that too, he is not stupid. He wants to retire as unbeatable. His aim is to get big bucks in the pocket for the last time and retire with a good record.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 08, 2024, 07:04:08 AM

^ Hopefully a Jones vs Aspinall match up will be in the works. But like a lot of people, I also have a feeling that he'll retire after fighting Miocic... Dunno tho. Let's just see what's gonna happen.

All in all, if I could have the match up that I really want for Jones... It would be Jones vs Ngannou. And I said it before, I think Ngannou owns Jones' ass in the cage. But that's just IMHO.

Weigh ins in around 4 hours if anybody cares.. Lol.

UFC Fight Night 247: Magny vs Prates Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chQvpKIZC88

A potential match between Aspinal and Bones is great. MMA fans are waiting for this match, if Dana accelerates in this regard, it will be a good time, it should be before it gets too cold.
Aspinall, the current interim champion, is someone who has the right stuff, Aspinall came here by proving many of his skills. Will these qualifications be enough for Bones, maybe yes for Aspinal.
Is there Bones from a few years ago, he has not been tested yet and does not have a disciplined life as before, a little more normal life.

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I was wrong when said tha this event would be a filler Grin

co-main and main events were actually great. De Ridder debut in UFC: he was a double champ from different promotion, and when such champs comes to UFC, their performance isnt really that great. His opponent was actually dangerous, 29 from 38 wins were by submission. And De Ridder managed to submit such guy. And Pratos with 4-0 UFC record chops down gate keeper Magny in first round with rather brutal KO. First impression on Pratos after wikipedia info - a noname, as he has got no page Grin

second impression, guy comes with a series of 11 wins.

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Aspinall vs Pereira, their fight I would definitely wish to fight. Aspinall seems to be one of few who (despited Bones) is able to defeat Pereira. Not because he is black belt in bjj, but because Aspinall is very quick for his size and is good at striking. Btw, is Aspinall able to cut enough to fit in LH? Because I dont think Aspinall vs Pereira fight is really possible. Aspinall would hunt for Bones, Pereira is about to face Ankalaev (lol), and there is queue who wants to meet Pereira among LH.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 08, 2024, 07:57:39 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 08, 2024, 07:04:08 AM

^ Hopefully a Jones vs Aspinall match up will be in the works.

Lol, about 15 minutes ago my eyes caught this one "Jon Jones reveals reason for not fighting Tom Aspinall - does it stack up?". Instead of Aspinall, he would rather fight Pereira Cheesy

For UFC such fight looks more $$$ than a fight where Bones crown will fall down Cheesy

Just imagine how it looks. Aspinall becomes champ and GOAT retires. Or Goat fights again (and probably submits) slash Pereira gets a chance to be a triple champ.

This is Dana after realizing two hype fighters fight is possible and both of them wants it.

I think more than anything it's both a 'show me the money' plea coupled with some mind games from Jones. But more of the latter than the former. If the UFC says it's Jones vs Aspinall next and Jones doesn't take the fight then he'll be stripped off his belt and Aspinall will be given full champ status at his next fight.

But what prolly the UFC should do tho is let Aspinall fight Pereira... The winner gets to fight Jon Jones. I for one would looove to see it happen.

Neil Magny (171) vs Carlos Prates (170.5)
Bernardo Sopaj (136) vs Ricky Turcios (136)
Reinier de Ridder (185) vs Gerald Meerschaert (185)
Luana Pinheiro (115.5) vs Gillian Robertson (116)
Mansur Abdul-Malik (186) vs Dusko Todorovic (185.5)
Denise Gomes (115) vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz (115.5)
Gaston Bolanos (135.5) vs Cortavious Romious (136)
Zach Scroggin (174)* vs Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos (171)
Charlie Radtke (171) vs Matthew Semelsberger (171)
Da’Mon Blackshear (135.5) vs Cody Stamann (135.5)
Tresean Gore (186) vs Antonio Trocoli (186)
Melissa Mullins (137)* vs Klaudia Sygula (136)

*Missed weight

UFC Vegas 100: Fighter Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKGhrAnE3Vs

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 08, 2024, 05:54:48 PM

I would risk saying that Usman at his 100% is a better challenge than Belal at his 100%. Although it's possible that Belal's wrestling is slightly better than Usman's now, as I believe he went through the Dagestani training, which could be really important when fighting Shavkat.

Belal will continue to rest and Shavkat or Usman will face a tough test at this stage. Belal is the winner in this situation. He will keep his belt comfortably for at least another 3-4 months. Shavkat deserved a belt fight but now he has a very tough fight against Usman.

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 08, 2024, 05:54:48 PM

Anyhow, Usman has allegedly agreed to take such fight on a short notice, should the UFC give them the green light:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/11/ufc-310-kamaru-usman-breaks-silence-shavkat-rakhmonov-fight-possibility

Usman has been very keen on this fight from the very beginning. https://x.com/USMAN84kg/status/1852046445148541338

I don't want to get off topic but I think I'm not the only one who compares Charles Oliveira to Choi Bounge.

https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np6/char/nw/choi-nw.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/18/12/91010871-13974889-image-a-40_1729251355836.jpg
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Quote from: trendcoin on November 08, 2024, 05:45:56 PM

Usman battered Edwards throughout the fight but lost the fight at an unfortunate moment in the last round. Usman was leading 3-1 until the last round. I refrain from commenting on that fight. Usman could have won that fight.
https://x.com/bernardogs9/status/1853840718953107893

On the other hand, I also refrain from commenting on Usman's fight with Khamzat. Khamzat is the only one who took Usman down and battered him on the ground. Usman has never looked so desperate before. However, Khamzat is already an exception. Usman's loss to Khamzat is a non-issue for me. Khamzat would have beaten anyone that day...

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1140487650429684

I generally agree with your views on Usman. It won't be an easy fight for Shavkat. It will be a very good fight and we will see two equal fighters in the octagon...

I would risk saying that Usman at his 100% is a better challenge than Belal at his 100%. Although it's possible that Belal's wrestling is slightly better than Usman's now, as I believe he went through the Dagestani training, which could be really important when fighting Shavkat.

Anyhow, Usman has allegedly agreed to take such fight on a short notice, should the UFC give them the green light:
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/11/ufc-310-kamaru-usman-breaks-silence-shavkat-rakhmonov-fight-possibility

I'm not sure it's the smartest career move for Usman, but I hope the UFC will make it happen.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 06, 2024, 05:30:54 PM

Let's be fair to the guy. He only lost to the champion, Leon Edwards. The loss to Chimaev should not count as it was a middleweight bout.
Before that, he was a dominant champion with 5 successful title defences.
I'm not a big fan of his, but we can't just discard his past successes because he had the balls to take the Chimaev fight on a very short notice in a higher-weight class (where he still performed pretty decently). He should be rewarded for that, not punished.
Plus, I can't see who would be more deserving of the number 2 spot. I could argue that maybe they should swap places with Shavkat, but that doesn't matter as Shavkat is getting his shot at the title anyway.

Usman battered Edwards throughout the fight but lost the fight at an unfortunate moment in the last round. Usman was leading 3-1 until the last round. I refrain from commenting on that fight. Usman could have won that fight.
https://x.com/bernardogs9/status/1853840718953107893

On the other hand, I also refrain from commenting on Usman's fight with Khamzat. Khamzat is the only one who took Usman down and battered him on the ground. Usman has never looked so desperate before. However, Khamzat is already an exception. Usman's loss to Khamzat is a non-issue for me. Khamzat would have beaten anyone that day... :)
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1140487650429684

I generally agree with your views on Usman. It won't be an easy fight for Shavkat. It will be a very good fight and we will see two equal fighters in the octagon...

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 08, 2024, 04:55:17 AM

Have you heard about recent Conor McGregor scandal? Sexual assault. What do you think about it? Fake and someone just wants a piece of McGregor money pie? Or sounds true, as he, with all those alco around him, is really able to lose control. Or media created fake news on purpose?

Who knows, but I don't think I care anymore about anything that happens with that guy.

As for Jon Jones, everyone sees it for what it is - he's ducking Aspinall. His explanation about focusing on "legacy" fights is nonsense. Literally all of the MMA fans would prefer to see him fighting Tom instead of Stipe. What kind of legacy would he leave behind if he chooses to fight Alex Pereira instead of Tom in his next fight after Stipe, which probably will be his last fight? He would almost certainly get stripped of the belt and would look like a coward.

But it kind of makes sense if you put yourself in his shoes. He knows he's well past his prime but still wants to squeeze some big bucks before riding off into the sunset. He doesn't want to end his career with a loss and he can't admit he's afraid Tom, so he has no choice but to come up with excuses.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 08, 2024, 07:04:08 AM

^ Hopefully a Jones vs Aspinall match up will be in the works.

Lol, about 15 minutes ago my eyes caught this one "Jon Jones reveals reason for not fighting Tom Aspinall - does it stack up?". Instead of Aspinall, he would rather fight Pereira Cheesy

For UFC such fight looks more $$$ than a fight where Bones crown will fall down Cheesy

Just imagine how it looks. Aspinall becomes champ and GOAT retires. Or Goat fights again (and probably submits) slash Pereira gets a chance to be a triple champ.

This is Dana after realizing two hype fighters fight is possible and both of them wants it.

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^ Hopefully a Jones vs Aspinall match up will be in the works. But like a lot of people, I also have a feeling that he'll retire after fighting Miocic... Dunno tho. Let's just see what's gonna happen.

All in all, if I could have the match up that I really want for Jones... It would be Jones vs Ngannou. And I said it before, I think Ngannou owns Jones' ass in the cage. But that's just IMHO.

Weigh ins in around 4 hours if anybody cares.. Lol.

UFC Fight Night 247: Magny vs Prates Official Weigh In
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We are pretty silent last days Cheesy

Its time to cheer up this place.

Have you heard about recent Conor McGregor scandal? Sexual assault. What do you think about it? Fake and someone just wants a piece of McGregor money pie? Or sounds true, as he, with all those alco around him, is really able to lose control. Or media created fake news on purpose?

UFC g.o.a.t. has a week to screw his return/last fight. What can we expect after that fight actually? Finally retire? Fight Aspinall? Avoid him like a plague? Cheesy

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Quote from: cabron on November 06, 2024, 11:14:57 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 06, 2024, 07:26:11 AM

^ He's still one of the more popular guys in the UFC tho, so it makes sense to to go send him fight a tough, Kazakh bro to build Rakhmonov up and make him one of the more sought after commodities in the UFC. I think a lot of people would pay to watch him rather than Belal Muhammad imho.

Nothing against Muhammad, it's just Rakhmonov as the champ would make 170 a hell lot more exciting. And I hope he gets to fight the Ian Garry guy and knocks him out cold. Lol.

Yep Justice for Garry's X wife.

Rakhmonov was actually the one suggesting Usman for the interim belt to save the 310. If the UFC approved it, it would still be a good fight. I doubt Usman would drop a huge stone on his toe just to duck Shav. Usman needs to fight with all his might else he goes down the hole.

It will still be a fight to come and Belal will still have to face Shavkat. Shavkat already suspected Belal deliberately posted that injury just recently but the rumor was that, that injury was weeks to months ago.

Wait what..? Garry's ex wife? What did he do?

As for Rakhmonov, if he suggested it and if the UFC is going for it then the ball is Usman's court now. It's up to him if he accepts the match up or not as the UFC can't really force anybody to accept fights. The UFC could prolly 'convince' a fighter but what they could really do is limited. If a fighter doesn't want it, they can't do anything.

Is GM3 fighting this weekend or at the next one? This guy seems like he's always a decent bet as the underdog.

UFC Free Fight: Gerald Meerschaert vs Edmen Shahbazyan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGqbYbAXWDI

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