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October 07, 2024, 07:24:53 AM
Imho, that moment when he connected well on Pereira, was not because it was a strategy or that special secret that he was talking about on press conference. Its because Pereira was way to relaxed, unfocused, sleepy. If we compare Pereira year or more ago and now, we see him becoming more media person. If previously he was more shy (or a stone face), more hungry, maybe felt uncomfortable in front of cameras. Then look at him now, he is filming some funny shorts video, living expensive life, more media. And as the world is balanced, then if we see him more in media, then the gym sees him less. He used to be hungry, ready to rip off Izzy head. Now he has got money, fame, and allow himself to give 70-90% of himself in a training and fight. Who he would face next? Ankalaev? Not really a thread, so he can enjoy his life for 4-6 months more, do lazy trading, get a camp where he would only do 100% of he is able, beat Ankalaev, relax and think about retirement, as he is rather old for a being a prime.
If you want to earn money, you have to be a media person these days. To be honest, I prefer this version of Alex Pereira because he doesn't look very dangerous all the time Cheesy
By the way, the dude is 37 years old and still rocks, he is one of the best fighter for sure. Recently, I look at Messi too and think, what does age mean in sport? Alex Pereira was an alcoholic and he started his fighting career very lately but became a superstar. I think that he will still fight for a few years for this reason alone. When you start sports at young age, your joints and other parts of your body gets damaged early. When you start it at late age, they get damaged lately. Probably that's the reason why Alex Pereira still rocks in this age but Messi? I have no explanation. Probably, talent can't still stays with you and keeps you move forward despite the aging body Cheesy

UFC 307 main event was amazing. Wish they had UFC events in Europe too because it's very expensive to fly in the United States but I want it so much to watch fights like this one.
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October 07, 2024, 05:13:44 AM
Does anyone knows story behind Khalils Rountree broken nose or scan on it? He has got that between his last fight and before UFC 307. It looked that it did not heal till the end, and any punch would open a bloody cut. It was so obvious that one jab would make a huge step forward to doctor stoppage.

Pereiras next opponent would be Ankalaev or someone else? What do you think? Because Dana did not say that Ankalaev will be 100%. He has told that he will be 100% next, if he wins and show "unbelievable performance". To bad that Ankalaev most likely will win, but in a boring manner Cheesy
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October 07, 2024, 03:55:23 AM
Perreria will move up to heavyweight, I don't know when that will be.
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I think so too. He's 37 and maybe has like 4-5 fights at the highest level left in him, so he probably wants to maximise the profit before retiring and won't be much interested in fighting some average fighters from light heavyweight.
His next opponent should be Ankalaev, assuming he beats Rakic. So Alex could either escape the Ankalaev fight by moving up to the heavyweight, or fight Ankalaev and then (if victorious) move up to fight either Jon Jones or Tom Aspinal. But if he was to lose to Ankalaev and move up, he unlikely would get a shot for the belt and would have to fight someone lower-ranked first.
Anyhow, there aren't many interesting options left for him in the light heavyweight. But then again, the UFC matched him up against Rountree, a fight that no one expected, so who knows what they will come up with next.

It was pretty obvious he was aiming for that and who does not want to get enough money from fights until he retires he is also aiming for a great career in the UFC to be included in the Hall of Fame for fighting a greater wrestler in this division would surely see if he can still maintain his composure but I guess that is why Glover Texeira was there for him to give him advice for his ground game because Alex Pereira's Standing is so great he just needed sparring partners that could elevate his performance even further his ground game also needs to improve I really think that if he can have an opponent that could test him with his ground defense then that will be a great thing for him and there will be no question that he is a well-rounded fighter,

But going into the Heavyweight division might be farfetched for now I think he can manage to do so or maybe getting 3 belts in the UFC might be possible for him.

The amazing part of Pereira vs Rountree fight was that is has lasted for 4 rounds Cheesy With odds like 4.5+, Pereira should have chopped him down in first or second round. But the fight went till 4th round. Only fight against Izzy lasted till 5th round. All other opponents Pereira has finished in first and second rounds. For me this means that Rountree aint that easy opponent. Even though he lost, his value imho has increased. The second round was the best of Rountree. But, starting from third, I felt like Khalils gas tank started to leak heavily. What do you think? Am I the only one to notice that he turned extremely slow?
He can't because Rountree just dominated him in the first 2 round with his counter and knowing that he's a striker, I know that he can do that. It's just that, Pereira's power slowly got him in the 3rd round and got completely dominated in the 4th round. Rountree might have that speed to counter and power to strike Pereira, but Pereira's power is just too much hence, he slowly crumbled starting the 3rd round. What I believe though is that, Rountree got my respect because of this fight, and even though he lost, many of those fans cheered for him because nobody expected him to last 4 rounds knowing that he's up against one of the best currently.

I agree Roundtree was dominant in the 1st 2 rounds he has the speed and even the chin to withstand the strike of Pereira it was Alex Pereira who was breathing heavily and was out of gas but still managed to get through because of his will to continue Roundtree was really a different person inside the ring and he has shown it in the fight that he can withstand a blow from Pereira that has a great knockout power so for me Khalil Roundtree is really dangerous and he got my respect.

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October 07, 2024, 02:55:35 AM
The amazing part of Pereira vs Rountree fight was that is has lasted for 4 rounds Cheesy With odds like 4.5+, Pereira should have chopped him down in first or second round. But the fight went till 4th round. Only fight against Izzy lasted till 5th round. All other opponents Pereira has finished in first and second rounds. For me this means that Rountree aint that easy opponent. Even though he lost, his value imho has increased. The second round was the best of Rountree. But, starting from third, I felt like Khalils gas tank started to leak heavily. What do you think? Am I the only one to notice that he turned extremely slow?

Rountree keeps charging back every time Pereira throws a jab. He isn't waiting for Pereira to position for a combo in the first rounds, which I think is why he lasted a few rounds. If that was the secret strategy he was saying it's not working because Pereira is cautious of his counter combo.

Roundtree dropped Pereira in the 2nd round when he ducked the head kick and counter a right hook. The R2 I think is where Roundtree made it where he also scored a head kick. The strategy almost worked and exposed Pereira.


Imho, that moment when he connected well on Pereira, was not because it was a strategy or that special secret that he was talking about on press conference. Its because Pereira was way to relaxed, unfocused, sleepy. If we compare Pereira year or more ago and now, we see him becoming more media person. If previously he was more shy (or a stone face), more hungry, maybe felt uncomfortable in front of cameras. Then look at him now, he is filming some funny shorts video, living expensive life, more media. And as the world is balanced, then if we see him more in media, then the gym sees him less. He used to be hungry, ready to rip off Izzy head. Now he has got money, fame, and allow himself to give 70-90% of himself in a training and fight. Who he would face next? Ankalaev? Not really a thread, so he can enjoy his life for 4-6 months more, do lazy trading, get a camp where he would only do 100% of he is able, beat Ankalaev, relax and think about retirement, as he is rather old for a being a prime.
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October 06, 2024, 04:37:56 PM
The amazing part of Pereira vs Rountree fight was that is has lasted for 4 rounds Cheesy With odds like 4.5+, Pereira should have chopped him down in first or second round. But the fight went till 4th round. Only fight against Izzy lasted till 5th round. All other opponents Pereira has finished in first and second rounds. For me this means that Rountree aint that easy opponent. Even though he lost, his value imho has increased. The second round was the best of Rountree. But, starting from third, I felt like Khalils gas tank started to leak heavily. What do you think? Am I the only one to notice that he turned extremely slow?
He can't because Rountree just dominated him in the first 2 round with his counter and knowing that he's a striker, I know that he can do that. It's just that, Pereira's power slowly got him in the 3rd round and got completely dominated in the 4th round. Rountree might have that speed to counter and power to strike Pereira, but Pereira's power is just too much hence, he slowly crumbled starting the 3rd round. What I believe though is that, Rountree got my respect because of this fight, and even though he lost, many of those fans cheered for him because nobody expected him to last 4 rounds knowing that he's up against one of the best currently.

Was Aldo robbed or what? couple of dodgy calls. What are these ref's watching? Now Pennington got robbed. Judges are on something tonight.
As for Aldo-Bautista, I also thought that Aldo got robbed. I mean it's anybody's fight at that time, and even I can't even pick on who's the winner after 3 rounds. Nevertheless, a well deserved win I guess.
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October 06, 2024, 04:20:43 PM
Perreria will move up to heavyweight, I don't know when that will be.
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I think so too. He's 37 and maybe has like 4-5 fights at the highest level left in him, so he probably wants to maximise the profit before retiring and won't be much interested in fighting some average fighters from light heavyweight.
His next opponent should be Ankalaev, assuming he beats Rakic. So Alex could either escape the Ankalaev fight by moving up to the heavyweight, or fight Ankalaev and then (if victorious) move up to fight either Jon Jones or Tom Aspinal. But if he was to lose to Ankalaev and move up, he unlikely would get a shot for the belt and would have to fight someone lower-ranked first.
Anyhow, there aren't many interesting options left for him in the light heavyweight. But then again, the UFC matched him up against Rountree, a fight that no one expected, so who knows what they will come up with next.
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October 06, 2024, 01:51:32 PM
The amazing part of Pereira vs Rountree fight was that is has lasted for 4 rounds Cheesy With odds like 4.5+, Pereira should have chopped him down in first or second round. But the fight went till 4th round. Only fight against Izzy lasted till 5th round. All other opponents Pereira has finished in first and second rounds. For me this means that Rountree aint that easy opponent. Even though he lost, his value imho has increased. The second round was the best of Rountree. But, starting from third, I felt like Khalils gas tank started to leak heavily. What do you think? Am I the only one to notice that he turned extremely slow?

Rountree keeps charging back every time Pereira throws a jab. He isn't waiting for Pereira to position for a combo in the first rounds, which I think is why he lasted a few rounds. If that was the secret strategy he was saying it's not working because Pereira is cautious of his counter combo.

Roundtree dropped Pereira in the 2nd round when he ducked the head kick and counter a right hook. The R2 I think is where Roundtree made it where he also scored a head kick. The strategy almost worked and exposed Pereira.

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October 06, 2024, 11:00:46 AM
Alex Pereira remains the king of UFC light heavyweight division!
Rountree was holding good for first few rounds, but fight finished like I expected and it was finished in fourth round.
Next fight for Pereira could be against winner of  Ankalaev vs Rakic, or Prochazka, but I really want to see him against Jon Jones after that.

Perreria will move up to heavyweight, I don't know when that will be.
There are still a few fighters left at light heavyweight who need to fight. If he moves up to heavyweight, I really want a Jon Jones fight. Smiley
Khalil Roundtree was respected by many people because he was durable but after the 3rd round his conditioning was gone.
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October 06, 2024, 10:44:34 AM
I was glad to see that Kayla Harrison won her fight. I think she’s on her way to being a UFC champion. Not much in the way of excitement outside that for me. Pereira won his fight with a less than spectacular stoppage and it didn’t look like his opponent wanted to be in there. Can’t say I blame him but no surprises tonight.

I was really busy and missed the UFC 307 but I have watched the replays for most of the fights that I like and one of them is the fight between Kayla Harrison vs. Ketlen Vieira it was really a fight that Kayla Harrison dominated and I have seen that Harrison was really well rounded with her moves when it comes with Standing and on the ground she has dominates Ketlen Vieira is both aspects and I really love how the fight had ended and still even if she has lost Ketlen Vieira still prayed for Harrison.

Alex Pereira remains the king of UFC light heavyweight division!
Rountree was holding good for first few rounds, but fight finished like I expected and it was finished in fourth round.
Next fight for Pereira could be against winner of  Ankalaev vs Rakic, or Prochazka, but I really want to see him against Jon Jones after that.


For me Khalil Roundtree has a solid chin that can withstand the strikes of Alex Pereira we can see that it was a different Rountree he is now calmer and not like the Roundtree that is reckless this Khalil Roundtree is now waiting for the opportunity to strike but unfortunately Alex Pereira is not a push over even though Roundtree knockout pereira in the 1st round Pereira's jab have proven useful the entire event that has Knockout Khalil Roundtree.



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October 06, 2024, 09:59:46 AM
The amazing part of Pereira vs Rountree fight was that is has lasted for 4 rounds Cheesy With odds like 4.5+, Pereira should have chopped him down in first or second round. But the fight went till 4th round. Only fight against Izzy lasted till 5th round. All other opponents Pereira has finished in first and second rounds. For me this means that Rountree aint that easy opponent. Even though he lost, his value imho has increased. The second round was the best of Rountree. But, starting from third, I felt like Khalils gas tank started to leak heavily. What do you think? Am I the only one to notice that he turned extremely slow?
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October 06, 2024, 08:03:25 AM
Alex Pereira remains the king of UFC light heavyweight division!
Rountree was holding good for first few rounds, but fight finished like I expected and it was finished in fourth round.
Next fight for Pereira could be against winner of  Ankalaev vs Rakic, or Prochazka, but I really want to see him against Jon Jones after that.
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October 06, 2024, 06:38:39 AM
Was Aldo robbed or what? couple of dodgy calls. What are these ref's watching? Now Pennington got robbed. Judges are on something tonight.

That's def a yes for both but only because I had bets on them both.  Lolol.  Cheesy Cheesy  But seriously, yeah...  Some bad decisions for the event but it is what it is.  We move on to the next one which is a big test for the Japanese guy.

Here are the results...

Alex Pereira def Khalil Rountree Jr  TKO R4
Julianna Peña def Raquel Pennington  SD
Mario Bautista def Jose Aldo  SD
Roman Dolidze def Kevin Holland  TKO R1
Kayla Harrison def Ketlen Vieira  UD
Joaquin Buckley def Stephen Thompson  KO R3
Iasmin Lucindo def Marina Rodriguez  SD
Alexander Hernandez def Austin Hubbard  SD
Cesar Almeida def Ihor Potieria  UD
Ryan Spann def Ovince Saint Preux  SUB R1
Tecia Pennington def Carla Esparza  UD
Court McGee def Tim Means  SUB R1

Here's the post fight press conference.

UFC 307:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjpcoERuif4

Overall just an average event.  I liked UFC Paris more tbh.
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October 06, 2024, 12:49:10 AM
I was glad to see that Kayla Harrison won her fight. I think she’s on her way to being a UFC champion. Not much in the way of excitement outside that for me. Pereira won his fight with a less than spectacular stoppage and it didn’t look like his opponent wanted to be in there. Can’t say I blame him but no surprises tonight.
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October 05, 2024, 10:38:07 PM
Was Aldo robbed or what? couple of dodgy calls. What are these ref's watching? Now Pennington got robbed. Judges are on something tonight.
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October 05, 2024, 07:08:08 PM
Yeah, the size difference in that face-off looked huge. It's hard to believe they're in the same weight class. That's a big disadvantage for Rountree, especially knowing it will most likely to be a purely striking match.

Chat GPT did well last time. Its prediction for this one:

Prediction: Alex Pereira wins via KO/TKO in Round 2.
Confidence Level: 85%

~snip~
Actually I much more interested in the Pereira vs Ankalaev fight as has been widely discussed before but Dana has other plans with each of them fighting with predetermined opponent, it is that Ankalaev will fight Aleksandar Rakic ​​and if Ankalaev wins then he has the opportunity to fight for the title.
In the Pereira vs Rountree fight itself will take place today and of course all the advantages belong to Pereira so it is very natural that he is the favorite and many parties and fans make him the favorite and even predict that he can win by KO.
Pereira has very good strength in terms of attack and he has pretty hard punch and can make his opponent feel how the blow is brutally and can even make the opponent fall and lose consciousness, even though Rountree is pretty great fighter in this division but Pereira has deadly uppercut-hook.
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October 05, 2024, 05:29:34 PM
Miracle? I don't believe there will be and I don't think that there will be an upset either. There's a chance though of course, but not at that fight.
The fact is Alex Pereira has a bigger posture than Rountree. If they fight with striking I think Pereira has a great chance to win the fight. I also agree that the fight will last under 3 rounds and Pereira can win this fight via KO/TKO. It's hard to find a miracle here because both fighters are strikers. Rountree doesn't have enough wrestling skills to dominate Pereira.

But if we talk about chances I think Rountree can still give a surprise if their team has a good gameplan. Yes Rountree's victory is in their gameplan. It's hard to find a chance for Rountree to win through striking or wrestling. This reminds me of the Usman vs Edwards 2 fight where Edwards shocked the world with a kick that put Usman to sleep and he said it was one of their gameplans because Usman has a habit of moving his head when trying to avoid punches.
Well, I guess we have this thing where if a fighter wins multiple times, we always thought that he will still be winning all the time. It's like when Canelo faced Bivol where we all thought that Canelo will defeat him just because he has defeat all of his opponents in the past (except for Mayweather), but Bivol just toyed with him all throughout the fight hence, losing it. I'm not saying that Pereira will win this fight 100%, but Rountree still has a chance to make an upset still.

I did a quick research and Rountree has a 5-fight win streak, 2nd longest in all active fighters so I guess this shows that he's good especially knowing the fact that 4 of the 5 victories that he got are achieved through knockout. Anyway, let's enjoy the fight a few hours from now, and I hope that it will not be a boring fight again. Cheesy Here's the odds on Razed.com, and it's no surprising at all.
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October 05, 2024, 04:52:00 PM
you mean this kick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3wY0pjkjIo
its possible. i thought this is illegal.

I'm pretty sure this is legal and should remain as such.
I think it was Jon Jones who gave a good reply to a reporter criticising him for throwing similar types of kicks, saying that they actually are less dangerous than punches/kicks to the head, which could cause permanent brain damage (or even death) or just cumulate and result in Parkinson's disease or alike later in life.
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October 05, 2024, 03:39:38 PM
^  I guess you guys didn't watch the pre fight press conference..?  Rountree said he has a secret move against Pereira.  Could the secret move be the oblique kick that could break knees?  Grin Grin

Yeah, the size difference in that face-off looked huge. It's hard to believe they're in the same weight class. That's a big disadvantage for Rountree, especially knowing it will most likely to be a purely striking match.

Chat GPT did well last time. Its prediction for this one:

Prediction: Alex Pereira wins via KO/TKO in Round 2.
Confidence Level: 85%

An one for Thomson Vs Buckley:
Prediction: Stephen Thompson wins via Unanimous Decision.
Confidence Level: 80%

Hmmm...  Interesting.  Let let's check the prop lines for those.  Alex Pereira to win at R2 is at 4.30.  That's not a bad line tbh.  And yeah, I have a feeling Thompson moght still have somethimg in him to eek out a win in this spot.  He's at 2.95 rn to win straight up and 4.25 to win via DEC.  I'm fine with him straight up at 2.95.  As the event is at high altitude, Buckley could gas out.  But dunno tho.

Anyway here are the weigh results.  Everybody made weight.

Champ Alex Pereira (205) vs Khalil Rountree (205)
Champ Raquel Pennington (135) vs Julianna Peña (134.5)
Jose Aldo (136) vs Mario Bautista (136)
Kayla Harrison (136) vs Ketlen Vieira (136)
Roman Dolidze (185.5) vs Kevin Holland (185.5)
Joaquin Buckley (170.5) vs Stephen Thompson (171)
Iasmin Lucindo (116) vs Marina Rodriguez (115.5)
Cesar Almeida (185.5) vs Ihor Potieria (185.5)
Alexander Hernandez (156) vs Austin Hubbard (156)
Ovince Saint Preux (205.5) vs Ryan Spann (205.5)
Carla Esparza (115.5) vs Tecia Pennington (115)
Court McGee (170) vs Tim Means (171)

you mean this kick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3wY0pjkjIo
its possible. i thought this is illegal.
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October 05, 2024, 06:56:35 AM
^  I guess you guys didn't watch the pre fight press conference..?  Rountree said he has a secret move against Pereira.  Could the secret move be the oblique kick that could break knees?  Grin Grin

Yeah, the size difference in that face-off looked huge. It's hard to believe they're in the same weight class. That's a big disadvantage for Rountree, especially knowing it will most likely to be a purely striking match.

Chat GPT did well last time. Its prediction for this one:

Prediction: Alex Pereira wins via KO/TKO in Round 2.
Confidence Level: 85%

An one for Thomson Vs Buckley:
Prediction: Stephen Thompson wins via Unanimous Decision.
Confidence Level: 80%

Hmmm...  Interesting.  Let let's check the prop lines for those.  Alex Pereira to win at R2 is at 4.30.  That's not a bad line tbh.  And yeah, I have a feeling Thompson moght still have somethimg in him to eek out a win in this spot.  He's at 2.95 rn to win straight up and 4.25 to win via DEC.  I'm fine with him straight up at 2.95.  As the event is at high altitude, Buckley could gas out.  But dunno tho.

Anyway here are the weigh results.  Everybody made weight.

Champ Alex Pereira (205) vs Khalil Rountree (205)
Champ Raquel Pennington (135) vs Julianna Peña (134.5)
Jose Aldo (136) vs Mario Bautista (136)
Kayla Harrison (136) vs Ketlen Vieira (136)
Roman Dolidze (185.5) vs Kevin Holland (185.5)
Joaquin Buckley (170.5) vs Stephen Thompson (171)
Iasmin Lucindo (116) vs Marina Rodriguez (115.5)
Cesar Almeida (185.5) vs Ihor Potieria (185.5)
Alexander Hernandez (156) vs Austin Hubbard (156)
Ovince Saint Preux (205.5) vs Ryan Spann (205.5)
Carla Esparza (115.5) vs Tecia Pennington (115)
Court McGee (170) vs Tim Means (171)
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October 05, 2024, 06:41:21 AM
Miracle? I don't believe there will be and I don't think that there will be an upset either. There's a chance though of course, but not at that fight.
The fact is Alex Pereira has a bigger posture than Rountree. If they fight with striking I think Pereira has a great chance to win the fight. I also agree that the fight will last under 3 rounds and Pereira can win this fight via KO/TKO. It's hard to find a miracle here because both fighters are strikers. Rountree doesn't have enough wrestling skills to dominate Pereira.

But if we talk about chances I think Rountree can still give a surprise if their team has a good gameplan. Yes Rountree's victory is in their gameplan. It's hard to find a chance for Rountree to win through striking or wrestling. This reminds me of the Usman vs Edwards 2 fight where Edwards shocked the world with a kick that put Usman to sleep and he said it was one of their gameplans because Usman has a habit of moving his head when trying to avoid punches.
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