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June 20, 2024, 02:25:38 PM
The UFC needs to stop fawning over old fighters and start adding new talent from everywhere they can because the pool of good fighters is literally closing. Bring in the new talent, give them a good contract and let it all happen.
I think that good idea because so far almost all the titles in each class have always been held by old fighters, and not all of those who are challengers can show truly dramatic fights in fighting for the title.
Indeed, some of the top fighters in their respective classes can always show great fights, but apart from the best fighters with main card fights, none of them look great, there are several other events that the UFC can actually take advantage of to have several new fighters.
But so far they have made efforts to select fighters who are worthy of getting place on contract with the UFC, some time ago there were even several fighters from Asia who tried to get into the UFC but I don't know how it went because I didn't follow it.

Presence of new fighters will create much hotter sensation, especially if they are great new fighters and are able to show success in every fight.
I think maybe Dana is thinking about this too but on the other hand he won't give out contracts and bring in fighters he doesn't think are worthy, Dana will always take the best to be here.
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June 20, 2024, 01:44:10 PM
^  That's why, I think the UFC should match up Chim and Rakhmonov, either 170 or 185 for both will be fine and get them into a 5 round prospect vs prospect bout.  I don't think Chim will last three rounds imho.

What's good for the fans is not always good for the UFC, that's the problem.
From their perspective, matching up two rising stars (like Chimaev or not, he's still in that category) against each other, inherently means that one of those hype-trains will get derailed. So the best time for those kinds of fights is when both are already established and achieved everything they could, or, best yet, when they're both slightly past their prime.
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June 20, 2024, 01:17:40 PM
^  That's why, I think the UFC should match up Chim and Rakhmonov, either 170 or 185 for both will be fine and get them into a 5 round prospect vs prospect bout.  I don't think Chim will last three rounds imho.

As for the main event this weekend, I fear for Whittaker.  His durability could be questionable after seeing what DDP did to him.  And before that there were some spots in other spots when he got wobbled a bit.

The UFC needs to stop fawning over old fighters and start adding new talent from everywhere they can because the pool of good fighters is literally closing. Bring in the new talent, give them a good contract and let it all happen.
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June 20, 2024, 09:08:35 AM
^  That's why, I think the UFC should match up Chim and Rakhmonov, either 170 or 185 for both will be fine and get them into a 5 round prospect vs prospect bout.  I don't think Chim will last three rounds imho.

As for the main event this weekend, I fear for Whittaker.  His durability could be questionable after seeing what DDP did to him.  And before that there were some spots in other spots when he got wobbled a bit.
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June 20, 2024, 06:34:09 AM
^  Thanks for bringing it back to what we should be really be talking about...  The next event.  And yup, I'm really disappointed that it's not Chim vs Whittaker as I really think Whittaker has a good chance of winning.  Chim is good vs lower tier fighters.  But against the better ones like Burns and Usman, he doesn't bring a great performance.  It's almost like he's getting slowly exposed. 

Watch Chim vs Burns and Chim vs Usman again.  It could be that he isn't as good as we thought.  I even think Rakhmonov wins vs Chim.

If we get back to originally announced Chimaev vs Whittaker fight, then I would disagree with the odds. I think Chimaev was 1.30-1.50 probably, and Whittaker was around 3. Quite low former champ. Imho that special Chimaev aura is evaporating. People used to be scared of him. But his two last fights were really close. Even though Chimaev trains like crazy, why the hell he has so bad stamina? If he did not finish his opponent in first round, he becomes really slow. Of course he will try to get Whittaker down, but Rob is good at countering wrestling (2 fights against Romero should be something to count with). If Rob survives till second or third round, he will outstrike Chimaev.

Now to Aliskerov. He is a copy of Chimaev, with lower wrestling skills, but better stamina and striking. Their fight against Whittaker I might consider to be even more interesting than Chimaev.

Somehow I start not to like Chimaev. Talks a lot, but no SMESH or KILL EVERIBADI in last two fights. Always sudden problems to postpone or cancel fight. Dont wants to fight 5*5min fights. Dont want to cut. Wants to fight in UAE only or Sweden. Latest performance does not match the level of star level he think he is.
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The first comment (from the picture) is rather funny and discussible Cheesy On one hand, Strickland would deserve a title fight, as his fight with DDP was close. On the other hand, Izzy already used his wild card for a title fight when he quickly got a rematch against Pereira. But if we look on the picture in general, Izzy has got enough achievements in middleweight to have this fight. Also, Who else should DDP fight? Everyone else from the top of middleweight got their fights recently, and for Izzy to have a third fight against Vettori (as he havent fought lately) is stupid.

Du Plessis is more African than Adesanya.

About the title, I agree and Strickland really deserves more to fight than Adesanya, since, as you rightly argued, their fight was very close and Strickland has already beaten Adesanya.

Maybe for marketing reasons they don't want Strickland

You are very much mistaken. Uncle Dana will certainly like Strickland for marketing reasons. Have you witnessed what he was doing on press conferences and interviews? He is very funny and he will say many truths that many fighters will not say because they are afraid of being cancelled by sports news media.

Also, Sean Strickland is very much injured.



In the co-main event, Sean Strickland earned a win over Paulo Costa but now faces an indefinite suspension pending an x-ray of his left tibia as well as clearance by an orthopedist for the injury to his left tibia/leg. Based on the language of the suspension, Strickland may have suffered some sort of fracture in his leg, although the commission wants him to get that examined to verify the potential nature of the injury

Source https://www.mmafighting.com/2024/6/4/24171758/ufc-302-medical-suspensions-dustin-poirier-sean-strickland-michal-oleksiejczuk-indefinite-suspension
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June 19, 2024, 06:01:04 PM
As Dana White himself said, whenever Chimaev goes to fight he gets extremely sick and he is never near the UFC doctors so they can check and this ends up being unfeasible because they cannot do their own analysis and need to trust the fighter.

How is he supposed to get near the UFC doctors? When someone gets ill, they'd just go to the nearest hospital. And I'm assuming he was still in Sweden (when he's from) when that happened.
Dana likes to brag about all the special care he offers to his fighters, but I'm not sure I buy that.
He could offer to send specialist(s) to investigate whatever secret illness Chimaev is having, or arrange for the top medical specialists in Sweden. I don't expect Khamzat would refuse that.

Yeah, I miss him a bit, he was entertaining and was bringing something fresh to the table. The 5 rounds against Whittaker would be a really good test for him. But it wasn't meant to be.

As for the Aliskerov Vs. Whittaker, who do you guys would be betting on? Whittaker is a favourite but I disagree. Aliskerov is not even ranked in the top 15 yet, accepted the fight on a short notice, but defeating Robert will be a fast-track to the top, so I'm sure he'll take it seriously. In terms of skills, he seems very well-rounded. But maybe I'm overrating him just because he's from Dagestan.

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The first comment (from the picture) is rather funny and discussible Cheesy On one hand, Strickland would deserve a title fight, as his fight with DDP was close. On the other hand, Izzy already used his wild card for a title fight when he quickly got a rematch against Pereira. But if we look on the picture in general, Izzy has got enough achievements in middleweight to have this fight. Also, Who else should DDP fight? Everyone else from the top of middleweight got their fights recently, and for Izzy to have a third fight against Vettori (as he havent fought lately) is stupid.

For me, I think Israel Adesanya shouldn't have easy access to the belt but I think Du Plessis can take care of himself after what he sees in the fight between Adesanya and Strickland sure Dricus Du Plessis might know what to do while Israel Adesanya may have a hard time getting back as he has to lie low for a long time but maybe I was wrong in this but getting your body not doing the things you do you might get the rust and Israel Adesanya is not something special to not be like that.

^  Yup...  I really thought Strickland was gonna get his rematch.  It was a really close match between him and DDP, some guys even thought Strickland won.  Even Dana White thought Strickland won...  And he's just won vs a tough guy in Costa and they're giving the title shot to another guy who Strickland dominated?  Cheesy Cheesy  

But I guess it also works in his favor.  If DDP wins, Strickland gets his rematch.  If Adesanya wins, he does what he did it all over again.

UFC Free Fight:  Whittaker vs Costa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eg6VzMsWx8

UFC Free Fight:  Aliskerov vs Hawes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCKpMdqTQJ4

^  Who do you guys got in the main even this weekend?

I really want Adesanya to fight Sean Strickland again but I guess he is now evading Strickland because of their last fight maybe he knows that he can not go toe to toe against him yet so maybe trying his luck against Dricus Du Plessis this time, I really don't know if Israel Adesanya can take this again and win and get his championship belt back his eagerness was gone in winning this like he is not trying to win against Sean Strickland or having a hard time with him in the fight but I really want to see an Israel Adesanya VS Sean Strickland fight again or maybe getting a Strickland fight Dricus Du Plessis this time instead of Israel Adesanya.

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June 19, 2024, 02:54:51 PM
Just a quick question about upcoming event - arent you guy missing Chimaev? Since 2022 and covid, his career became, I dont know how to tell better, a mess? First he was to face Diaz, but wasnt able to make weight, showed middle finger to everyone and fought Holland in catchweight. Next fight in 2023 against Costa. Costa got injured and Usman stood on short notice. Against who, honestly speaking, Borz was dominating all the time. Now Whittaker, and against problems when the fight is about to happen. I am missing SMESH EVERIBADI !

As Dana White himself said, whenever Chimaev goes to fight he gets extremely sick and he is never near the UFC doctors so they can check and this ends up being unfeasible because they cannot do their own analysis and need to trust the fighter.

Food poisoning, injured, diarrhea, covid, and passport issues. All excuses he already used.
They're the ones being said over on Twitter, that's where Khamzat stays all the time since. Dana still books him, but having 1 or 2 replacements will be ready whenever the fight is near.  Or it should be the other way around, he should be the replacement. He won't have to train harder and get injured if he is just a replacement.
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June 19, 2024, 02:13:05 PM
Just a quick question about upcoming event - arent you guy missing Chimaev? Since 2022 and covid, his career became, I dont know how to tell better, a mess? First he was to face Diaz, but wasnt able to make weight, showed middle finger to everyone and fought Holland in catchweight. Next fight in 2023 against Costa. Costa got injured and Usman stood on short notice. Against who, honestly speaking, Borz was dominating all the time. Now Whittaker, and against problems when the fight is about to happen. I am missing SMESH EVERIBADI !

As Dana White himself said, whenever Chimaev goes to fight he gets extremely sick and he is never near the UFC doctors so they can check and this ends up being unfeasible because they cannot do their own analysis and need to trust the fighter.
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June 19, 2024, 08:49:14 AM
^  Thanks for bringing it back to what we should be really be talking about...  The next event.  And yup, I'm really disappointed that it's not Chim vs Whittaker as I really think Whittaker has a good chance of winning.  Chim is good vs lower tier fighters.  But against the better ones like Burns and Usman, he doesn't bring a great performance.  It's almost like he's getting slowly exposed. 

Watch Chim vs Burns and Chim vs Usman again.  It could be that he isn't as good as we thought.  I even think Rakhmonov wins vs Chim.
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June 19, 2024, 04:46:19 AM
Just a quick question about upcoming event - arent you guy missing Chimaev? Since 2022 and covid, his career became, I dont know how to tell better, a mess? First he was to face Diaz, but wasnt able to make weight, showed middle finger to everyone and fought Holland in catchweight. Next fight in 2023 against Costa. Costa got injured and Usman stood on short notice. Against who, honestly speaking, Borz was dominating all the time. Now Whittaker, and against problems when the fight is about to happen. I am missing SMESH EVERIBADI !
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June 18, 2024, 11:44:03 PM
they didn't expect strickland to defeat izzy by any chance. only a few fans of strickland expect an upset that will happen but the majority predicted izzy. it was a one-hit-wonder strickland and lost in his first title defense. but it was a very close fight. but the one that strickland dominated badly takes the title shot. great decision by dana, and so UFC is becoming like boxing.

UFC 305 will be hosted at Perth, Australia which is near near New Zealand, Adesanya's country. Maybe there's a lot of money involved here. And Dana is not really religious about the rankings and who deserved the best but it's still about bringing the most money in his company.

Strickland just went into a dominating performance against Costa which further solidifies his claim of getting another title shot. Now Strickland has to fight again or wait for nearly a year of his title shot. Whereas Adesanya did not even make a single tune up since losing his belt. But somehow, I am more excited in this fight. I want Dricus to fully dominate or hopefully stop Adesanya and then rematch Strickland again.

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June 18, 2024, 06:26:19 PM
Found such conspiracy theory Cheesy Strickland isnt very smart when he talk. He blame all that LGBTQ stuff for example. Now take a look where UFC fights are often aired. ESPN. ESPN is owned by Disney mostly. Wiki say that The Walt Disney Company has been criticized for making purportedly sexist and racist content in the past, putting LGBT+ elements in their films, and not having enough LGBT+ representation.. So there is a theory, that Disney ordered to shut Stricklands mouth Cheesy Otherwise UFC might get some troubles.

Hardly a conspiracy theory. Disney have proved they will be pushing their homo/trans agenda onto kids even at the cost of their stock taking a nose dive (for some strange reason parents are not super excited for their children being openly indoctrinated by deranged corpo's CEOs). So no one should be shocked if they actually imposed some quiet ban on Strickland.
But let's face it, 90% of any hype is an effect of social media popularity, not legacy media coverage, so I don't think that would make any real difference.

About the title, I agree and Strickland really deserves more to fight than Adesanya, since, as you rightly argued, their fight was very close and Strickland has already beaten Adesanya.

I'm not a big fan of Izzy, but I don't mind him fighting DPP. They cannot allow situation when 2 same guys are consistently fighting each other, so they have to throw some other fighters in the mix. Whoever wins, will probably have to defend either against Strickland or Whittaker (if he goes past Aliskerov).
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June 18, 2024, 11:17:42 AM
they didn't expect strickland to defeat izzy by any chance. only a few fans of strickland expect an upset that will happen but the majority predicted izzy. it was a one-hit-wonder strickland and lost in his first title defense. but it was a very close fight. but the one that strickland dominated badly takes the title shot. great decision by dana, and so UFC is becoming like boxing.
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June 18, 2024, 08:45:56 AM

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Izzy is back on 305 by the way. He also posted this on his Insta. The King of Africa vs the China man  Grin


The first comment (from the picture) is rather funny and discussible Cheesy On one hand, Strickland would deserve a title fight, as his fight with DDP was close. On the other hand, Izzy already used his wild card for a title fight when he quickly got a rematch against Pereira. But if we look on the picture in general, Izzy has got enough achievements in middleweight to have this fight. Also, Who else should DDP fight? Everyone else from the top of middleweight got their fights recently, and for Izzy to have a third fight against Vettori (as he havent fought lately) is stupid.

Du Plessis is more African than Adesanya.

About the title, I agree and Strickland really deserves more to fight than Adesanya, since, as you rightly argued, their fight was very close and Strickland has already beaten Adesanya.

Maybe for marketing reasons they don't want Strickland
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June 18, 2024, 08:08:01 AM
^  Yup...  I really thought Strickland was gonna get his rematch.  It was a really close match between him and DDP, some guys even thought Strickland won.  Even Dana White thought Strickland won...  And he's just won vs a tough guy in Costa and they're giving the title shot to another guy who Strickland dominated?  Cheesy Cheesy  

But I guess it also works in his favor.  If DDP wins, Strickland gets his rematch.  If Adesanya wins, he does what he did it all over again.

UFC Free Fight:  Whittaker vs Costa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eg6VzMsWx8

UFC Free Fight:  Aliskerov vs Hawes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCKpMdqTQJ4

^  Who do you guys got in the main even this weekend?
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Izzy is back on 305 by the way. He also posted this on his Insta. The King of Africa vs the China man  Grin


The first comment (from the picture) is rather funny and discussible Cheesy On one hand, Strickland would deserve a title fight, as his fight with DDP was close. On the other hand, Izzy already used his wild card for a title fight when he quickly got a rematch against Pereira. But if we look on the picture in general, Izzy has got enough achievements in middleweight to have this fight. Also, Who else should DDP fight? Everyone else from the top of middleweight got their fights recently, and for Izzy to have a third fight against Vettori (as he havent fought lately) is stupid.
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June 17, 2024, 10:25:38 AM
Have you noticed that Sean Strickland has disappeared from the radars? He used to be all around, specially after beating Izzy. I remember it was 4-1 by rounds against Izzy. Which means it wasnt a lucky win. Then he lost to Dricus, but it was a split win by Dricus. And Dana told it was 3-2 Strickland if he was a judge. (and it would be fair to have a rematch). The Strickland won Costa. Where is Strickland now? Rarely we see him on media today.

Found such conspiracy theory Cheesy Strickland isnt very smart when he talk. He blame all that LGBTQ stuff for example. Now take a look where UFC fights are often aired. ESPN. ESPN is owned by Disney mostly. Wiki say that The Walt Disney Company has been criticized for making purportedly sexist and racist content in the past, putting LGBT+ elements in their films, and not having enough LGBT+ representation.. So there is a theory, that Disney ordered to shut Stricklands mouth Cheesy Otherwise UFC might get some troubles.



Oh no. It's possible. And Dana couldn't do something about it. He badly needs the marketing now that PFL and OneFC are increasingly grabbing fans. UFC even needs to find someone to replace The Korean Zombie's popularity. We'll see if Trump is on UFC 303, if not then something is going on.



They will really have a hard time getting fans in Asia. Because without someone to represent or take the lead spontaneously, they won't achieve much. And on top of all that, the fighter needs to be good.


They have their taste of wickedness there and the Dagis are also dominating in the other FCs.
Found out that Taira wasn't the first to have executed this takedown. Someone on social media pointed this out. Tatsumitsu Wada another Japanese from ONEchamp also did it against Demetrious Johnson - |https://youtu.be/Hdm32AInJO8?t=114  DJfortunately survived and won.


https://www.instagram.com/p/C8UB0T-t10u/
Izzy is back on 305 by the way. He also posted this on his Insta. The King of Africa vs the China man  Grin
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June 17, 2024, 09:39:56 AM
Have you noticed that Sean Strickland has disappeared from the radars? He used to be all around, specially after beating Izzy. I remember it was 4-1 by rounds against Izzy. Which means it wasnt a lucky win. Then he lost to Dricus, but it was a split win by Dricus. And Dana told it was 3-2 Strickland if he was a judge. (and it would be fair to have a rematch). The Strickland won Costa. Where is Strickland now? Rarely we see him on media today.

Found such conspiracy theory Cheesy Strickland isnt very smart when he talk. He blame all that LGBTQ stuff for example. Now take a look where UFC fights are often aired. ESPN. ESPN is owned by Disney mostly. Wiki say that The Walt Disney Company has been criticized for making purportedly sexist and racist content in the past, putting LGBT+ elements in their films, and not having enough LGBT+ representation.. So there is a theory, that Disney ordered to shut Stricklands mouth Cheesy Otherwise UFC might get some troubles.



Oh no. It's possible. And Dana couldn't do something about it. He badly needs the marketing now that PFL and OneFC are increasingly grabbing fans. UFC even needs to find someone to replace The Korean Zombie's popularity. We'll see if Trump is on UFC 303, if not then something is going on.



They will really have a hard time getting fans in Asia. Because without someone to represent or take the lead spontaneously, they won't achieve much. And on top of all that, the fighter needs to be good.
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