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Quote from: eaLiTy on December 02, 2022, 02:40:26 PM

I side more towards Stephen Thompson because of his striking pedigree and expecting a great fight between the two.

I prefer Stephen, but I don't expect him to win here. He's very good against other strikers, and he might be able to get the decision, but Holland is very dangerous on the feet. It'll be interesting to see if Holland can close the gap, since fighters a little more aggressive than him have failed against Wonderboy.

I think that'll be the decider personally. If Holland close the gap, I'd expect a knock out. Otherwise, Wonderboy could cruise to a victory via decision. I'll have a look at the odds tonight, and see if they persuade me either way.

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Quote from: Welsh on December 02, 2022, 12:56:32 PM

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Holland has the chance to make a statement here, and put a legend on his record. I don't know what others might think, but I consider Stephen a legend at this point. Probably one of the most unique fighting styles in the UFC, mainly due to his karate background. They're quite rare, and even when there are fighters with that sort of background they tend to ditch the karate stance.

There was a brother code established when Kevin Holland and Stephen Thompson sit down for an interview and you can watch them in the official youtube channel by the UFC and it is basically a classic Karate Vs Kung Fu match up. Kevin Holland is a second degree black belt and Stephen Thompson is a really establish striker who has a fifth degree black belt and with an undefeated record in his kick boxing days and he is a legend in that aspect.

I side more towards Stephen Thompson because of his striking pedigree and expecting a great fight between the two.

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That's a very good point tokeweed. I was going along the similar line of thought that Wonderboy has become a little washed, but looking at the opponents, and actually thinking about their styles you're probably right. Although, at times he was definitely getting out struck in some of those fights.

Holland has the chance to make a statement here, and put a legend on his record. I don't know what others might think, but I consider Stephen a legend at this point. Probably one of the most unique fighting styles in the UFC, mainly due to his karate background. They're quite rare, and even when there are fighters with that sort of background they tend to ditch the karate stance.

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Quote from: Welsh on December 02, 2022, 10:37:51 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 02, 2022, 10:20:47 AM

Those who is an expert in betting, dont you happen to know if it is possible to place a bet only on a fight outcome ? I mean is it possible to bet that the fights end method will be a KO, but without selecting who is going to be a winner? I think Tai Tuivasa vs Sergey Pavlovich fight is going to end with a KO, I just dont know who is going to be more accurate or lucky that day. These two has total of 26 KOs in 30 fight Shocked

Yeah, however it depends on your bookie. Only some offer this, mostly fiat one's I believe. You can also bet on method of victory as well as round which bumps up the modifier by quite a handsome amount. This also only tends to be certain events I believe.

The other alternative you've got is the fight not going the distance which is basically saying the same thing; there will be a finish you just don't know who.

Quote from: tokeweed on December 02, 2022, 10:05:04 AM

^ That's the thing, if Holland took a striking heavy approach, I think Thompson will be a problem. Holland will have a hard time closing the distance as Thompson is mostly light on his feet and could kick from different angles. It could prolly end up something like point fighting for Thompson. Dunno... But yeah, the last couple of losses were from fighters who are really good at wrestling. Then again it's also possible that Thompson is washed.

Edit: As for the odds, Holland at 1.57, Thompson at 2.36. Oh... Not much value for Thompson. Lol. I thought I saw he was at 2.75 or something. :/ My bad.

Wonderboy's distance management is one of the best in the game. Holland will need to be prepared to take a few to close the distance. I just think he gets it done. Don't get me wrong, I'll be absolutely over the moon if Wonderboy gets it done. I've been quite vocal in the past of Holland's performances, but he's won me back recently. Especially, with the Chimaev event. Yeah, he lost, but I saw some fight despite knowing he was going to get demolished which is what I wanted to see in the Brunson fight.

When Holland accepted to fight Chimaev on short notice, he becomes one of Dana's fav. Whether he loses or wins, Dana will always like a fighter who will just go all the way. And he can take what Thompson can throw, he is indeed old and washed. If Holland has to go closer to beating Thompson, Holland by submission could happen.

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^ I don't blame you, and if I were to bet, I'd also go for Holland. But he has to use some offensive wrestling here instead of trying to out strike the guy. A lot of people thinking Thompson is old and washed, me included, but I go back and see the last couple of losses were vs really good wrestlers and the last couple of wins were vs a prime Luque and the hard hitting Geoff Neal.

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 02, 2022, 10:20:47 AM

Those who is an expert in betting, dont you happen to know if it is possible to place a bet only on a fight outcome ? I mean is it possible to bet that the fights end method will be a KO, but without selecting who is going to be a winner? I think Tai Tuivasa vs Sergey Pavlovich fight is going to end with a KO, I just dont know who is going to be more accurate or lucky that day. These two has total of 26 KOs in 30 fight Shocked

Hah yeah.. Would be cool if we could have those kinds of props. Other good ones could be betting for the over and the under on TD's and total strikes.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 02, 2022, 10:20:47 AM

Those who is an expert in betting, dont you happen to know if it is possible to place a bet only on a fight outcome ? I mean is it possible to bet that the fights end method will be a KO, but without selecting who is going to be a winner? I think Tai Tuivasa vs Sergey Pavlovich fight is going to end with a KO, I just dont know who is going to be more accurate or lucky that day. These two has total of 26 KOs in 30 fight Shocked

Yeah, however it depends on your bookie. Only some offer this, mostly fiat one's I believe. You can also bet on method of victory as well as round which bumps up the modifier by quite a handsome amount. This also only tends to be certain events I believe.

The other alternative you've got is the fight not going the distance which is basically saying the same thing; there will be a finish you just don't know who.

Quote from: tokeweed on December 02, 2022, 10:05:04 AM

^ That's the thing, if Holland took a striking heavy approach, I think Thompson will be a problem. Holland will have a hard time closing the distance as Thompson is mostly light on his feet and could kick from different angles. It could prolly end up something like point fighting for Thompson. Dunno... But yeah, the last couple of losses were from fighters who are really good at wrestling. Then again it's also possible that Thompson is washed.

Edit: As for the odds, Holland at 1.57, Thompson at 2.36. Oh... Not much value for Thompson. Lol. I thought I saw he was at 2.75 or something. :/ My bad.

Wonderboy's distance management is one of the best in the game. Holland will need to be prepared to take a few to close the distance. I just think he gets it done. Don't get me wrong, I'll be absolutely over the moon if Wonderboy gets it done. I've been quite vocal in the past of Holland's performances, but he's won me back recently. Especially, with the Chimaev event. Yeah, he lost, but I saw some fight despite knowing he was going to get demolished which is what I wanted to see in the Brunson fight.

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Those who is an expert in betting, dont you happen to know if it is possible to place a bet only on a fight outcome ? I mean is it possible to bet that the fights end method will be a KO, but without selecting who is going to be a winner? I think Tai Tuivasa vs Sergey Pavlovich fight is going to end with a KO, I just dont know who is going to be more accurate or lucky that day. These two has total of 26 KOs in 30 fight Shocked

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^ That's the thing, if Holland took a striking heavy approach, I think Thompson will be a problem. Holland will have a hard time closing the distance as Thompson is mostly light on his feet and could kick from different angles. It could prolly end up something like point fighting for Thompson. Dunno... But yeah, the last couple of losses were from fighters who are really good at wrestling. Then again it's also possible that Thompson is washed.

Edit: As for the odds, Holland at 1.57, Thompson at 2.36. Oh... Not much value for Thompson. Lol. I thought I saw he was at 2.75 or something. :/ My bad.

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Quote from: tokeweed on December 02, 2022, 09:21:19 AM

As for Holland vs Thompson, at first glance I got Holland but the more I look into it, Holland should win but I think the line should be closer imho. Thompson's last couple of matches were against really in wrestling but Holland, ot so much. If Holland is gonna go into a striking battle then he's playing into Thompson's strengths.

I've got Holland, and I'm a massive Wonderboy fan. In fact, he's probably in my top five fighters. I just love his style. However, Holland is brilliant in the stand up, and I can't see Wonderboy reverting to wrestling him. I see him getting clipped, and probably knocked out.

I'll be looking at the odds, and I'll either bet for that outcome or just not bet at all. I don't want to see Wonderboy get beat, but I'll feel a little better if I've earned something from it Cheesy

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^ Wait... There's a fine if a Russian flag is displayed by the fighter? I know Russian flags were disallowed in F1 but I didn't notice it was also the same in the UFC or even football.

No flags of any country will be carried by any fighter and that is the new policy by the UFC, if any fighters violate them, there wont be any fine but probably released from the UFC and that is how Dana White usually conducts business, his way or the highway Cheesy

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Yeah.. But I think some people are trying to pin the issue totally on Dana White or the UFC. He has his hands tied and he prolly doesn't give a fk which flag you wave around during walk outs. You could wave a flag around that says the UFC sucks and he wouldn't care. It's the United States gov imposing those rules as Russia is currently 'the enemy'. It's a weird time.

Anyway, you guys got any picks and bets for this weekend's event? There are some pretty good match ups in here... Levy vs Valdez is gonna be good, Price vs Rowe, Hermansson vs Dolidze, Tuivasa vs Pavlovich and Nicolau vs Schnell.

It's always weird when politics takes over. The war sometimes extends to MMA matches.
Tuivasa is the only recognizable name on the list. Will go for Holland as long as he isn't fighting Khamzat.

Not just to MMA but they extend to all other sports and sporting events. In F1 a Russian racer whose dad is an oligrach and somewhat connected to Putin was given the sack by his own team. In EPL football, Roman Abramovich was forced to sell his football club Chelsea as he was getting hassled left and right. It's crazy.

And yeah, I think there's only amfew guys itt who watches UFC events from start to finish. To that I say, give it a chance, read about the fighters, the news, etc etc...

As for Holland vs Thompson, at first glance I got Holland but the more I look into it, Holland should win but I think the line should be closer imho. Thompson's last couple of matches were against really in wrestling but Holland, ot so much. If Holland is gonna go into a striking battle then he's playing into Thompson's strengths.

Edit: Live weigh ins here.

Holland vs Thompson: Live Weign In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiWZdC9DTDQ

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 02, 2022, 07:50:56 AM

Honestly, I am more interested in seeing what kind of meme or funny pictures of body transformation the internet is going to create this time. And really looking forward when Baddy will be fed up with extreme weight cutting and decides to hire a nutritionist. Cant when when he will grow up and understand that all that gaining and loosing weight will reflect badly on his health when he turns 40 or 50+. Dont know if he is really that crazy with junk food or this is his "thing". To me he looks like a prodigy, a talented kid, that fights world fast food mafia and wasting talent, or at least concentrating not on proper things.

He probably does have some outside advice, whether that's through a dedicated nutritionist or through his team. He isn't doing this by himself, and while it looks bad from the outside in terms of professionalism, they've obviously got it down to a T, since they've met the weight requirement every time.

It's somewhat the same with those that are walking about at 200+, but manage to weight cut to 155 etc. Alex Pereira recently looked absolutely huge against Izzy, and I imagine he's cutting a ton of weight, and probably a little bit dangerously too. Although, he's done that his whole career so knows what his limitations are.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 01, 2022, 11:45:05 AM

For me, Pimblet is more interesting now, he surely got grappling moves like no other and he surely is more agile than he looks, be the most shocking thing about him is the way he loses weight when his fight is near, for me Paddy the Baddy Pimblet really knows how to it promote his upcoming fights, but we all know especially what Paddy the baddy is capable of,

Actually, I still don’t understand whether this fight will take place, or so far it’s just chatter in social networks? Pimblett accused Jake of dummy fights, but I don't think those fights were dummy, it's just that his opponents were too old for him, so I can't call these fights equal. With Paddy it can all be more interesting, he is younger, stronger and faster, and no one would say that the fight was fake. Grin

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 01, 2022, 11:45:05 AM

For me, Pimblet is more interesting now, he surely got grappling moves like no other and he surely is more agile than he looks, be the most shocking thing about him is the way he loses weight when his fight is near, for me Paddy the Baddy Pimblet really knows how to it promote his upcoming fights, but we all know especially what Paddy the baddy is capable of,

Honestly, I am more interested in seeing what kind of meme or funny pictures of body transformation the internet is going to create this time. And really looking forward when Baddy will be fed up with extreme weight cutting and decides to hire a nutritionist. Cant when when he will grow up and understand that all that gaining and loosing weight will reflect badly on his health when he turns 40 or 50+. Dont know if he is really that crazy with junk food or this is his "thing". To me he looks like a prodigy, a talented kid, that fights world fast food mafia and wasting talent, or at least concentrating not on proper things.

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Quote from: notblox1 on December 01, 2022, 06:35:12 PM

Is he now back on his fat regime, of eating junk food and everything else?

I never saw anyone having such big body transformations like him, pre and post his fights.

Without a doubt. He definitely eats more than the average fighter on the card. I kind of like that to be honest, but it probably isn't good for him to keep piling weight on, and then taking it back off to the very extremes.

It's just different to see, since most other fighters treat their bodies like temples, and there's ol' Paddy just enjoying life. A lot of people probably don't realise where he came from, and he's got a very similar attitude to the people that do come from the Liverpool area. He's a proper scouser.

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Also, @YuginKadoya. The we have sexy fighting kittens.

Amanda Ribas
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Tracy Cortez
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vital statistics 34-24-36

You surely got a keen eye for these, that is why I salute you for saying this to me, will be looking at them I mean will be looking their stats, and fighting style and will be giving my verdict on who's going to win between this two for sure, but pretty much I really like the Latina look of Cortez but Amanda Ribas can be more hot than her, but surely will be looking for what they can do inside the octagon more,

Agreed, it is also making me salute at them I mean salute their performance hehehe. Their fighting style will be much grappling on the ground. Tracy Cortez is a wrestler and Amanda Ribas is an expert in BJJ. You will like the fight and I wish it will be long and end in a decision hehehe.

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Jake Paul challenged Paddy Pimblett to $1 million bout after the UFC star claimed the creator fixes his fights

Paul's challenge was one Pimblett was swift to accept, albeit with a slight caveat — the sparring session would have to take place at the UFC's Performance Institute in Las Vegas, shortly after his December 10 fight against Jared Gordon in the same city.

"Come to the PI next week and bring $1 million in a bag and I will spar with you," Pimblett told TMZ on Tuesday — the same day Paul issued his challenge.

"I'm in the PI in Vegas on Thursday. But if he wants to wait until after my fight — until the Monday … I'm game."

Source https://www.insider.com/jake-paul-challenged-paddy-pimblett-after-his-fixed-fights-claim-2022-11

Yes, Pimblett's answer was interesting, I will fight on Saturday, rest on Sunday, and beat you on Monday, it seems that Pimblett is very confident, since he thinks that just one day will be enough for him to recover from the fight. But in any case, this is one more performance, without which Paul cannot, he has everything built on this. It will be interesting for me to see it, he knows how to promote his fights.

I am skeptical. Paddy the baddy is very confident because he certainly knows that Jake Paul will never go to the UFC performance institute to fight him. However, it was very good for Paddy Pimblet to create hype for himself. This will only cause curiousity for boxing fans and it might make them watch Paddy in the UFC hehe.

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Quote from: posi on December 01, 2022, 11:46:00 AM

Conor McGregor is past his prime. And of course, with the injuries that he is facing right now, it will be really difficult for him to actually bring effective results. We thought he would have a good fight against Dustin Portier. But he ended up breaking his own leg. The only thing he can do well still is talking shit on Twitter.

That is not the problem only with Conor McGregor, and we can see what injuries have done for LightHeavyweight division top guys getting serious injuries.
MMA is deadly dangerous combat sport and every time you enter in octagon, for training or real fight you are risking an injury.
I agree that Conor is past his prime, and maybe he doesn't have the drive and hunger to fight like before, but it could be fun to watch him for few more fights.

Quote from: Welsh on December 01, 2022, 03:49:32 PM

Each to their own. Although, I find him quite down to earth outside of fighting. The thing about the fight business is you've to put on this persona. It's what sells fights, and gets you fans. However, if you listen to him outside of that, he's actually quite a humble, and nice sounding lad.

Is he now back on his fat regime, of eating junk food and everything else?

I never saw anyone having such big body transformations like him, pre and post his fights.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 01, 2022, 02:35:12 AM

Actually, I don't really like Paddy Pimblet at 1st the way he talks, and pretty much his beef with Ilia Topuria was the one I really don't like, but seeing how he fought I have learned to like him he got that unique scramble when it comes to grappling that is not been shown in most fighters, he surely got the guts, and the dedication when he is nearing his fight, from gaining so much quicker and losing it so quickly as well he surely amaze me with that

Each to their own. Although, I find him quite down to earth outside of fighting. The thing about the fight business is you've to put on this persona. It's what sells fights, and gets you fans. However, if you listen to him outside of that, he's actually quite a humble, and nice sounding lad.

I don't have too much of a problem with him trying to sell his fights. I mean Conor was adored for it before the fans turned on him. A fight career is generally quite short, and therefore the fighters try to make the most of it, and smack talk is a way of fast tracking that.

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Quote from: posi on December 01, 2022, 11:46:00 AM

Conor McGregor is past his prime. And of course, with the injuries that he is facing right now, it will be really difficult for him to actually bring effective results. We thought he would have a good fight against Dustin Portier. But he ended up breaking his own leg. The only thing he can do well still is talking shit on Twitter.

Although Conor McGregor is rumored to be coming back to fight in the octagon but his kicks will never be perfect and opponents will target weak legs, maybe Conor chose his first opponent for standard ranking to prove that he has recovered from his injury and has the chance to win to improve his reputation from the last few defeats in his career, but if he challenges Khabib or any other high ranked fighter then I am sure he will not win, maybe another brutal defeat will lead him to retirement decision.

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I agree. Do you think I don’t believe that Connor McGregor did not train well enough for that fight?
Of course, Conor McGregor trained really hard. But Connor McGregor always cared about his social status, showing off to other people, how many cars he has, etc.
But Khabib Nurmagomedov did not have anything like that in his mind. He didn’t run after the money, he didn’t run after no girls. Training was how most of the time in his life was spent. And it is hard to beat a guy like that.
Even if we see another Khabib vs Conor fight, I think that might be one-sided again. Because Connor McGregor is obviously not in his prime anymore. But I am quite confident that even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is retired, and put on quite a lot of weight, he will still be able to get to the one-forty-five-pound mark and beat Conor.

Even if Mc Gregor is at his prime. In fact, let me tell Mc Gregor that if he focuses entirely on fighting, he doesn't gamble at all, he doesn't care about social status or anything, he only cares about the fight, but I still see it as impossible for him to beat Khabib, purely because of the style difference they do. Sambo and wrestling style are more advantageous compared to a superior striker, so Mc Gregor's hard work wouldn't mean anything to me, of course there are a lot of people who have different opinions.

That is also true. Because Khabib Nurmagomedov is fighting since he was a little kid. His muscles were made for grappling and holding his opponents. He could just squeeze someone to death. That is something Conor McGregor cannot do because he is not built like that. When Khabib Nurmagomedov was nine, Conor McGregor was playing with a toy while he was fighting real bears.

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Even if we see another Khabib vs Conor fight, I think that might be one-sided again. Because Connor McGregor is obviously not in his prime anymore. But I am quite confident that even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is retired, and put on quite a lot of weight, he will still be able to get to the one-forty-five-pound mark and beat Conor.

They fight at 155 pounds and how many times anyone think about facing Khabib, no one is going to defeat him as that was his level of dominance. The only challenge i would love to see was if he was moving up in weight class

I do not know if Khabib Nurmagomedov will be able to perform at 145 lbs again. He has put on quite a lot of weight and it will be challenging for him to make a weight cut like that. So even if a fight between Khabib, Nurmagomedov, and Conor McGregor does happen, I don’t see it happening in the 145 lbs weight category.

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Even if we see another Khabib vs Conor fight, I think that might be one-sided again. Because Connor McGregor is obviously not in his prime anymore. But I am quite confident that even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is retired, and put on quite a lot of weight, he will still be able to get to the one-forty-five-pound mark and beat Conor.

With Conor's leg having a crack, he wouldn't last anymore even if he fights someone else like Aldo who probably hates his guts more than anyone. Aldo will be throwing damaging leg kicks to punish him.

Conor McGregor is past his prime. And of course, with the injuries that he is facing right now, it will be really difficult for him to actually bring effective results. We thought he would have a good fight against Dustin Portier. But he ended up breaking his own leg. The only thing he can do well still is talking shit on Twitter.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 01, 2022, 07:07:24 AM

Ok, lets get back a bit to that flag thing. The thing is - flags might not be banned, and Dana White is telling the truth, but as we all watch events live, but not in IRL, then montage can be the thing. The world is not as calm as used to be nowadays, so why make those tiny reminders to Russia-Ukraine war with showing Russian flags. Same as all of a sudden all comedy and entertainment shows disappear from TV, if a disaster or terrorist attack for example, has happened on the eve. Just my prediction. Dont know about other country flags, maybe there is also something behind.

It is complicated if it is not because of the War against Russia and Ukraine but If there are other reasons, Dana White is being safe with his answers because he's going to be the bad guy in the public eye, and yes people are a low brain functioning mammal that will surely humiliate someone if they saw things they don't like, and maybe it is to protect the Fighters from all the booing and let's all admit at in the public eye Russia is seen as the villain here, which I think has a deeper reason behind why the Russian attack Ukraine, but if what it is I really don't know, but they are really not want some prohibited flag around the Octagon at all, and if so then just Ban all flags to be shown inside by the fighters,

Quote from: Inwestour on December 01, 2022, 07:52:21 AM

Yes, Pimblett's answer was interesting, I will fight on Saturday, rest on Sunday, and beat you on Monday, it seems that Pimblett is very confident, since he thinks that just one day will be enough for him to recover from the fight. But in any case, this is one more performance, without which Paul cannot, he has everything built on this. It will be interesting for me to see it, he knows how to promote his fights.

For me, Pimblet is more interesting now, he surely got grappling moves like no other and he surely is more agile than he looks, be the most shocking thing about him is the way he loses weight when his fight is near, for me Paddy the Baddy Pimblet really knows how to it promote his upcoming fights, but we all know especially what Paddy the baddy is capable of,

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