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June 09, 2024, 12:18:41 PM
I do understand the logic behind referees caring about fighters and stopping fights when they see they're just about to get badly KO'd but announcing Cannonier's loss was pre-mature. Yes, he got rocked, but he was successfully defending himself (including escaping) and looked like he was recovering and the worst was behind him when the ref waived his arms to stop it.

Big win by Reyes. He was an underdog, due to his 4-losses streak and over 1.5 year inactivity caused by health problems, but he managed to surprise Jacoby with a left knee and finished the job with punches. He's not yet that old at 34, so might still be able to climb back at the top of the light heavyweight.
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June 09, 2024, 11:13:39 AM
^  It was Cannonier who was putting in more volume and was winning the match...  Until he got caught with a left hand then the ref kinda stopped it early.  But oh well.  We could only hope that Imavov gets mispriced in his next match vs a top 5 guy as I don't think he could win vs any of them judging from what I've seen from the match.

...  Oh and it's the same for Ferreira.  Stoltzfus was bringing it to him and he was starting to gas out.  In his post match interview he's asking for Bo Nickal?  Cheesy  Oof...  I hope the books misprice him too after the win.


Ferreira hasn't ranked yet but wanted an early retirement by asking Nickal. That spinning elbow though is like a signature move, perfect timing.

Surprisingly Jared tried his best to come up with the volume, even leg kicks but also received counter until he gassed out while Imavov found his range. He was out of balance too when struck behind his ear. A lot of fans think it was an early stoppage. The rules certainly have changed a lot in UFC, but sure Jared would receive more damage if it weren't stopped early.
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June 09, 2024, 08:34:21 AM
^  It was Cannonier who was putting in more volume and was winning the match...  Until he got caught with a left hand then the ref kinda stopped it early.  But oh well.  We could only hope that Imavov gets mispriced in his next match vs a top 5 guy as I don't think he could win vs any of them judging from what I've seen from the match.

...  Oh and it's the same for Ferreira.  Stoltzfus was bringing it to him and he was starting to gas out.  In his post match interview he's asking for Bo Nickal?  Cheesy  Oof...  I hope the books misprice him too after the win.

Here are the results...

Nassourdine Imavov def Jared Cannonier  TKO R4
Dominick Reyes def Dustin Jacoby  KO R1
Raul Rosas Jr def Ricky Turcios  SUB R2
Brunno Ferreira def Dustin Stoltzfus  KO R1
Zachary Reese def Julian Marquez  TKO R1
Punahele Soriano def Miguel Baeza  UD
Ludovít Klein def Thiago Moises  UD
Carlos Prates def Charles Radtke  KO R1
Brad Katona def Jesse Butler  UD
Montana De La Rosa def Andrea Lee  SD
Daniel Marcos def John Castañeda  UD
Denise Gomes def Eduarda Moura  SD
Taylor Lapilus def Cody Stamann  UD
Puja Tomar def Rayanne dos Santos  SD

UFC Fight Night:  Cannonier vs Imavov Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgRef5ubp8
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June 08, 2024, 10:54:11 AM

Weigh ins are in...  I didn't realize that Imavov is taller and kinda bigger than Cannonier who used to fight in HW and LHW.  I'm leaning for Cannonier at first glance but the size difference could be a factor.  Best game plan for Cannonier would be to make it boring and grind Imavov against the cage like Hawes did a couple or so years ago.

And I got a bad feeling that Brad Katona will be the pie shtter of this event.

UFC Fight Night:  Cannonier vs Imavov Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAsWTdZpHWs

UFC Fight Night:  Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4Ozp1SBmg

Jared Cannonier (185) vs Nassourdine Imavov (185)
Dustin Jacoby (204.5) vs Dominick Reyes (205)
Raul Rosas Jr. (136) vs Ricky Turcios (136)
Brunno Ferreira (186) vs Dustin Stoltzfus (184.5)
Julian Marquez (185.5) vs Zach Reese (185)
Miguel Baeza (171) vs Puna Soriano (171)
Ludovit Klein (156) vs Thiago Moises (156)
Carlos Prates (169.5) vs Charlie Radtke (171)
Jesse Butler (136) vs Brad Katona (136)
Montana De La Rosa (126) vs Andrea Lee (126)
John Castaneda (136) vs Daniel Marcos (135.25)
Denise Gomes (116) vs Eduarda Moura (116.5)*
Taylor Lapilus (135.5) vs Cody Stamann (135.75)
Rayanne Amanda (116) vs Puja Tomar (116)

*Missed weight

Cannonier doesn't have the volume to do that. But Imavov has all the tools to bring Cannon down. He should be getting a title shot but it appears UFC matchmaker does not see old Cannon as a champ and the UFC matchmaking treats him unfairly and wants him out the picture. And then matched him to a huge guy who has nothing to lose.

For being an old man though, Cannonier has been doing great in his last fights. Hope to see him win and take that title shot against DDP.

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June 08, 2024, 08:34:06 AM
Weigh ins are in...  I didn't realize that Imavov is taller and kinda bigger than Cannonier who used to fight in HW and LHW.  I'm leaning for Cannonier at first glance but the size difference could be a factor.  Best game plan for Cannonier would be to make it boring and grind Imavov against the cage like Hawes did a couple or so years ago.

And I got a bad feeling that Brad Katona will be the pie shtter of this event.

UFC Fight Night:  Cannonier vs Imavov Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAsWTdZpHWs

UFC Fight Night:  Face Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4Ozp1SBmg

Jared Cannonier (185) vs Nassourdine Imavov (185)
Dustin Jacoby (204.5) vs Dominick Reyes (205)
Raul Rosas Jr. (136) vs Ricky Turcios (136)
Brunno Ferreira (186) vs Dustin Stoltzfus (184.5)
Julian Marquez (185.5) vs Zach Reese (185)
Miguel Baeza (171) vs Puna Soriano (171)
Ludovit Klein (156) vs Thiago Moises (156)
Carlos Prates (169.5) vs Charlie Radtke (171)
Jesse Butler (136) vs Brad Katona (136)
Montana De La Rosa (126) vs Andrea Lee (126)
John Castaneda (136) vs Daniel Marcos (135.25)
Denise Gomes (116) vs Eduarda Moura (116.5)*
Taylor Lapilus (135.5) vs Cody Stamann (135.75)
Rayanne Amanda (116) vs Puja Tomar (116)

*Missed weight
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June 07, 2024, 02:59:22 PM

Lets wait for official announcement. So far we got only this from his Instagram:


This could mean anything, from a minor injury to a regular check-up. If there is a real injury, he would not be so smiling on the picture. And it would be useless for him to return to MMA. 3 years on a pause already, one or two years of inactivity and he could forget about serious competition. He is not Bones who comes from 2 years pause and finish top opponent in two minutes. It the fight will be truly cancelled, then I feel sorry for those who have bought tickets.

For sure if this fight is canceled those who bought the tickets should at least get some compensation if they didn't see the fight they are asking for where there will be no Conor McGregor that they are asking to see then I feel sorry for those fans, for sure Conor McGregor is just playing games with his fans he is not Bone Jones to return after a 2 years hiatus as he surely got worst injuries and got some addicting dosses from some muscle enhancer drug, and I can not believe that there are still fans believing him that he can return to the Octagon after a long period of time absent to this kind of sport.


I agree with you. When I first saw this poster shared by my friend, I wondered if he was trying to trick me by editing the UFC 304 poster using Microsoft Paint. But after seeing the official UFC 304 page I thought oh my god, it turns out this is real! Is this the work of interns at the UFC? This isn't even worthy of a standard UFC event. I'm trying to see a reasonable reason and I think it's because UFC 304 had a lot of problems and they had to make this poster in a hurry. I can't find any other reason for this joke.

It was really weird I didn't know who was going to be punished for this kind of poster but if it was OK with the UFC then we can not do something if many don't like this kind of Poster but again if it was approved to be used in the official fight for the UFC then we can not do something about it, for sure the UFC didn't take to consideration about this event and as Tom Aspinall is the true Champion now they still considered to not give Aspinall a best poster as possible for sure they are still considering Jon Jones to return to the Octagon.

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June 07, 2024, 08:57:53 AM
^  Wdym?  I saw a fight replay available at YT and just started talking about what I've seen of the fighter...  But yeah, look at his Tapology, he won his first fight via KO at R1 as 3.55 underdog vs Gregory Rodrigues who's a decent fighter.  He got hyped up to the tits for his second fight and got KO'd himself by a tough dude as a 1.40ish favorite. Cheesy Cheesy  The UFC then gave him Hawes who has some good fights in the UFC but who's a chinny guy.  And obv it was a bounce back fight for Ferreira and Hawes was gonna get KO'd.  

So now here we are... I feel like the UFC is setting Ferreria up to win again.  But dunno...  He should be ready to go all three rounds if he can't finish Stoltzfus early as Stoltzfus has shown in his last fight that he could outlast a guy who likes going for KO's.

Edit:  Just try to watch all the match ups from start to finish and get to know these guys.  The prelims is where you find good spots for bets as sometimes the lines are skewed because mostly nobody pays attention to them.
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June 07, 2024, 08:40:48 AM
I know cos from the quality of convos itt I feel like most of the guys in here have surface level knowledge and are prolly just here for their sig campaigns.

Nope, we are just here to discuss McGregor story of success Cheesy

Just curious why did you even pay attention to Brunno Ferreira vs. Dustin Stoltzfus fight. I am not familiar with both. I usually pay attention to familiar face or name. I barely see such in fight night events. I barely bet on none main or co-main events. If you havent named them, I would most likely watch their fight in after event review, and if there was an early finisher, then probably watch a full fight. From the whole card, I would pay attention to Raul Rosas Jr. (not because it is hard not to notice or look on his chin) because he seems to be on the list of UFC hype machine. 3 fights, 2 wins and performance bonuses in all of them. One loss, but Raul got a 20% money bonus because opponent missed weight. He is building (or UFC is building) him a staircase from poverty to wealthy life.

Btw, have you tried UFC Jackpot freebet on Duelbits? If not, you still have enough time to make your selection https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/mma/ufc-jackpot/68651028-9f7c-41f2-b15a-0cc87fb6bf71
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June 07, 2024, 08:15:27 AM
Here's one of the fight vids of a prospect who's fighting this weekend.  This guy could either finish the match within 1.5 rounds or get finished in the third round or lose via decision.  Some guys think his opponent Stoltzfus could eek out a win but dunno...

UFC Free Fight:  Ferreira vs Hawes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6HOU1b3huI

But yeah, you guys prolly don't have an idea what I'm talking about or don't care.  Lolol.

We actually never click on your links lol Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy I have googled that Stoltzfus guy, and he has a red belt in Tang Soo Do. Wtf is that? Cheesy Is a red belt in that Scooby Doo even valued ? Btw how come you even find and focus on that Ferreira guy? Because he is 11-1 ? I would have never even googled him, because he has no page in Wiki and for me this is an indicator of an average meat Cheesy





I know cos from the quality of convos itt I feel like most of the guys in here have surface level knowledge and are prolly just here for their sig campaigns.  Lol.  The thread was supposed to be somewhat like a place where we could discuss match ups for upcoming events and look for good spots from a betting perspective.

Anyway, about the Ferreira vs Stoltzfus match up, I would agree if somebody said that the line is kinda wide.  But the latter isn't really that good and Ferreria could finish him early.  But here's the thing tho, if he could survive the first couple of rounds like he did in his last match vs Soriano, maybe he could win via dec or finish Ferriera himself at R3 as Ferreria has a bad gas tank.  I think there's a higher chance Stoltzfus gets finished early tho.  We'll see...
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June 07, 2024, 05:36:42 AM
Here's one of the fight vids of a prospect who's fighting this weekend.  This guy could either finish the match within 1.5 rounds or get finished in the third round or lose via decision.  Some guys think his opponent Stoltzfus could eek out a win but dunno...

UFC Free Fight:  Ferreira vs Hawes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6HOU1b3huI

But yeah, you guys prolly don't have an idea what I'm talking about or don't care.  Lolol.

We actually never click on your links lol Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy I have googled that Stoltzfus guy, and he has a red belt in Tang Soo Do. Wtf is that? Cheesy Is a red belt in that Scooby Doo even valued ? Btw how come you even find and focus on that Ferreira guy? Because he is 11-1 ? I would have never even googled him, because he has no page in Wiki and for me this is an indicator of an average meat Cheesy

And it looks like there isn't gonna be a Multi Master for the event but here are my leans at first glance.
      
Raul Rosas Jr        


I expect new memes to appear after this fight.



I know I am gonna burn in hell for that, but every time he fight, his opponent gets an instant +2cm reach advantage Cheesy
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June 06, 2024, 09:37:28 PM
You liked Costa vs Strickland fight? I personally dont. There were better fights in the card. In their fights I saw that Strickland mostly threw jabs and front kick (leg jab lol). And only in last round fighters switched on fighting mode. For me it was a boring UD by Strickland. In fact, wtf is with Costa? He used to be a brutal 1 round finisher, pumped beast that attacks from very start. Now his fights are long lasting fights, decision>decision>decision...


That's because Strickland has this rather boring style where he covers up and uses quick jabs and low kicks all the time to soften up opponents. He's mainly a boxer and used to endure long fights, which is not what people in MMA are used to. They expect a lot of kicks to the head, flying knees and takedowns and none of these are what Strickland is known for.
Anyway, I'm happy for him. In my previous comment I said it's his fight and it turned out to be like that.

Strickland proves a simple defense works well while always ready to throw punches in return.
But it's not just that. People see the difference about Costa as he isn't the same after he lost against Izzy. He used to be a finisher. The confidence is just not going back easily and maybe one would be very careful already when the fighter experienced the same level of punishment.

I don't know if your confidence would still be back if someone did this to you publicly. LOL





Yes, and it was literally with the basics that Strickland became the champion of the category against many people. You can say what you want about him, but the way he fights, attacks and defends is unique, literally.
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June 06, 2024, 02:53:30 PM
You liked Costa vs Strickland fight? I personally dont. There were better fights in the card. In their fights I saw that Strickland mostly threw jabs and front kick (leg jab lol). And only in last round fighters switched on fighting mode. For me it was a boring UD by Strickland. In fact, wtf is with Costa? He used to be a brutal 1 round finisher, pumped beast that attacks from very start. Now his fights are long lasting fights, decision>decision>decision...


That's because Strickland has this rather boring style where he covers up and uses quick jabs and low kicks all the time to soften up opponents. He's mainly a boxer and used to endure long fights, which is not what people in MMA are used to. They expect a lot of kicks to the head, flying knees and takedowns and none of these are what Strickland is known for.
Anyway, I'm happy for him. In my previous comment I said it's his fight and it turned out to be like that.

Strickland proves a simple defense works well while always ready to throw punches in return.
But it's not just that. People see the difference about Costa as he isn't the same after he lost against Izzy. He used to be a finisher. The confidence is just not going back easily and maybe one would be very careful already when the fighter experienced the same level of punishment.

I don't know if your confidence would still be back if someone did this to you publicly. LOL



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June 06, 2024, 02:28:19 PM
You liked Costa vs Strickland fight? I personally dont. There were better fights in the card. In their fights I saw that Strickland mostly threw jabs and front kick (leg jab lol). And only in last round fighters switched on fighting mode. For me it was a boring UD by Strickland. In fact, wtf is with Costa? He used to be a brutal 1 round finisher, pumped beast that attacks from very start. Now his fights are long lasting fights, decision>decision>decision...


That's because Strickland has this rather boring style where he covers up and uses quick jabs and low kicks all the time to soften up opponents. He's mainly a boxer and used to endure long fights, which is not what people in MMA are used to. They expect a lot of kicks to the head, flying knees and takedowns and none of these are what Strickland is known for.
Anyway, I'm happy for him. In my previous comment I said it's his fight and it turned out to be like that.
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June 06, 2024, 01:19:20 PM


This post is one of the worst I've ever seen, it's not completely understandable and it doesn't convey the information in a cohesive way. My God, who approved this?

I agree with you. When I first saw this poster shared by my friend, I wondered if he was trying to trick me by editing the UFC 304 poster using Microsoft Paint. But after seeing the official UFC 304 page I thought oh my god, it turns out this is real! Is this the work of interns at the UFC? This isn't even worthy of a standard UFC event. I'm trying to see a reasonable reason and I think it's because UFC 304 had a lot of problems and they had to make this poster in a hurry. I can't find any other reason for this joke.
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June 06, 2024, 09:23:44 AM
Here's one of the fight vids of a prospect who's fighting this weekend.  This guy could either finish the match within 1.5 rounds or get finished in the third round or lose via decision.  Some guys think his opponent Stoltzfus could eek out a win but dunno...

UFC Free Fight:  Ferreira vs Hawes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6HOU1b3huI

But yeah, you guys prolly don't have an idea what I'm talking about or don't care.  Lolol.

And it looks like there isn't gonna be a Multi Master for the event but here are my leans at first glance.

Jared Cannonier       
Dustin Jacoby           
Raul Rosas Jr       
Brunno Ferreira         
Julian Marquez
Punahele Soriano
Ludovít Klein           
Charles Radtke       
Andrea Lee           
Brad Katona         
Daniel Marcos           
Denise Gomes           
Taylor Lapilus           
Rayanne dos Santos
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June 06, 2024, 06:48:56 AM
Some news: Conor has cancelled UFC 303 press conference. (https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/06/ufc-303-daniel-cormier-conor-mcgregor-canceled-press-conference-worrisome) Should we worry about fight cancelation as well?

Dana White has said that Conor is dropping out of UFC 303 with an injury to his leg that was suffered during sparring. No word of it’s the same shin he broke last time, but it sounds like it. I don’t see how Conor comes back from this. In another couple years when he would be ready to fight again he’ll just be too far removed from the fight game and too old.

Lets wait for official announcement. So far we got only this from his Instagram:


This could mean anything, from a minor injury to a regular check-up. If there is a real injury, he would not be so smiling on the picture. And it would be useless for him to return to MMA. 3 years on a pause already, one or two years of inactivity and he could forget about serious competition. He is not Bones who comes from 2 years pause and finish top opponent in two minutes. It the fight will be truly cancelled, then I feel sorry for those who have bought tickets.
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June 06, 2024, 06:21:07 AM
Anyone wants here wants to discuss Poirier vs Makhachev fight? I've seen some stats: Makhachev tried 16 takedowns and only 5 of them were successful. That is around 30% of success. People say that this is the worst result in Makhachevs career. Does it means that Poirier TD defence has improved, or he was focused on them to much (as he has landed quite a few strikes in this fight imho). Anyway, people compare Islam and Khabib, and say that Islam is a copy or follower of Khabib. But Khabib was better. I never saw any damage on Khabibs face.

I think we can not compare the past and the present as that is not comparable at all but if we compare Khabib to Makhachev there are certain similarities but there is still a distinctive difference between the two for me Islam Makhachev is slower than how Khabib Nurmagomedov execute a more on the ground and how Dustin Poirier has said that he surely has trained with his ground game for sure his Takedown defense has improved a lot for him to be ready with Islam Makhachev as for sure the Main Event have save the entire event in my opinion, As for me Dustin Poirier's performance has given the underdog an edge and that this fight is not one-sided at least Dustin Poirier gave his all and surely he deserves that $50,000 USD bonus while Islam Makhachev got $100,000 USD.


If Makhachev is gonna bring the of performance that we saw last weekend vs Tsarukyan then Makhachev better watch out.  But there are words swirling around that Makhachev wants the winner of Leon Edwards vs Belal Muhammad...  So we'll see.  If the UFC allows him to go at 170 then it's prolly best to give Tsarukyan a chance to fight for an interim title at 155.  That at least would give him a pay increase.

Here's a fight vid of Cannonier going at it vs Vettori.

UFC Free Fight:  Cannonier vs Vettori
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBWBwgzP8bE

Who you guys got for the main event this coming weekend?

Now That Islam Makhachev has proven that he is the Pound for pound as Jon Jones is not around anymore he is now aiming for the Next belt and the Welterweight is the nearest one that comes in sight for me I would surely think that the winner on the Leon Edwards and Belal Muhammad fight will be a great fight for Makhachev as both fighters have a heavier stature than Islam so that will be a great fight to see.




Interesting Event the Belal Muhammad VS Leon Edwards is really promising but I think I will side with Leon Edwards as he has the skill and the technique to get on Belal Muhammad again as we all know that these fighters have already faced each other inside the Octagon and an unintentional eye poke on Belal Muhammad's eyes that bring the fight to a stop for sure it may happen again as we can all see it was on March 13, 2021 when they fought.



And lastly, the rematch for Tom Aspinall VS Curtis Blaydes is great aswell because Jon Jones doesn't want to show up but for sure we all know we don't really need this rematch but because Curtis Blaydes won their 1st match where Aspinall's Leg because of Blaydes iron metal shin! This could again repeat on Aspinall's other leg, which I hope is not the case.

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June 06, 2024, 12:18:33 AM
Some news: Conor has cancelled UFC 303 press conference. (https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2024/06/ufc-303-daniel-cormier-conor-mcgregor-canceled-press-conference-worrisome) Should we worry about fight cancelation as well?

Dana White has said that Conor is dropping out of UFC 303 with an injury to his leg that was suffered during sparring. No word of it’s the same shin he broke last time, but it sounds like it. I don’t see how Conor comes back from this. In another couple years when he would be ready to fight again he’ll just be too far removed from the fight game and too old.

I'm sad about his injury, I wanted to see him fight again after so long. It would be really cool. I hope he comes back this semester


^
You can't find a source of that info until the date draws closer. But because it's been talked about, you can assume there is a little truth to it.

Anyway, here's the official poster of UFC  304 lol Hope yourr not gonna have stiff neck after looking at this.
The match is not so intriguing but they all deserve the 2nd fight. Hope Tom going to win this time so we can now have that Jones fight. Bad enough that he has to defend this interim belt.



This post is one of the worst I've ever seen, it's not completely understandable and it doesn't convey the information in a cohesive way. My God, who approved this?
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June 05, 2024, 06:20:45 PM
^
You can't find a source of that info until the date draws closer. But because it's been talked about, you can assume there is a little truth to it.

Anyway, here's the official poster of UFC  304 lol Hope yourr not gonna have stiff neck after looking at this.
The match is not so intriguing but they all deserve the 2nd fight. Hope Tom going to win this time so we can now have that Jones fight. Bad enough that he has to defend this interim belt.



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June 05, 2024, 05:08:34 PM
Dana White has said that Conor is dropping out of UFC 303 with an injury to his leg that was suffered during sparring. No word of it’s the same shin he broke last time, but it sounds like it. I don’t see how Conor comes back from this. In another couple years when he would be ready to fight again he’ll just be too far removed from the fight game and too old.

Source?

I can't find anything confirming this.
But if true, that's likely the end of McGregor's career. Unless it's some minor injury, in which case they could just push it back by a month or so.
If the fight doesn't happen, Chandler will be the biggest victim.
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