Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 330. (Read 97140 times)

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Here's a couple of interviews from the guys at the main event.  Prolly a good idea to know where their mindset is at.

Vera Pre Fight Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j0RvaJ6bSA

Font Pre Fight Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnjObcbpSQA

According to an article, Fury has earned almost 34 millions last weekend and Whyte got 7.4 millions. How much do you think Ngannou would get? If in promotion "UFC heavy weight champion" slogan would be used, then Ngannou could get 10 millions maybe? Question is, would UFC allow their brand to be used? Or Ngannou would be presented just as MMA champion or a beast? For the last fight Ngannou got 600k plus a PPV bonus. Difference is obvious, but will 10 millions be enough to end career ?

I hope they can clash aswell with Mixed martial arts because Tyson Fury pretty much has the advantage in boxing he is pretty much familiar with boxing more and because of his experience inside the ring pretty much many will say that Tyson Fury is the favorite to win with Boxing, but if they can have an exhibition with MMA aswell then I guess Francis Ngannou will probably have a much bigger advantage over Tyson Fury, but even though Francis Ngannou would lose to Fury a sum of money will be given to him just by showing up, and an amount UFC can not provide him, this is as much while Ngannou wants to be a boxer so badly.


he badly needed that training, and against Tyson Fury that is professional and Tyson Fury is a monster in using only punches while Ngannou is not most familiar with this kind of adjustment I really think he needs a professional boxer in training him in ways of how, and with Tyson recent fight, Dillian Whyte is not a pushover but the way Tyson Fury move inside the ring he is with ease and personally, he is just playing around, and if Francis Ngannou could fight these he will need to train so hard that he can not lift his own finger.


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Even if his team says otherwise, I think everyone agrees on this. The man just have to work a lot on his cardio to last at least five rounds and he'll be enjoying his pay. I won't be surprised if he decides to retire from MMA after this fight.

Jones is also moving to boxing?


Ngannou will undergo a lot of training for the fight if its really going to happen. Upon wearing the boxing glove alone feels very heavy compare to the UFC gloves. Fury though isn't very agile than Ngannou. The last Fury fight although he won against Whyte by KO, they were all just standing no constant head movement or footwork. He did tried that uppercut several times until he got Whyte.

Anyone who watched him boxing knows that Wilder is fastest man with that weight and height in the planet, and I am sure he is going to look much better against Ngannou in ring.
Maybe they are going to make some mixed or custom rules that would fit both fighters and make it more interesting, but right now my money is Fury to win.
Remember the fights with with Deontey Wilder, and you will see something similar in fight against Ngannou.
For Ngannou this will be chance to make lifechanging money and finally break ties with UFC, because we know he is not happy with amount of money he is earning there.

Well every top fighter in the UFC is a likely, money milking for Dana White, but Francis Ngannou is different he likely wants an increase and Dana White doesn't something likely that, he just wants to savor the UFC money all on his own, well I don't also look for the exact amount they get with that fight, even though Ciryl Gane doesn't win that match I surely enjoy it a lot,

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And just in MMA news Zabit Magomedsharipov's coach has likely have said that Zabit Magomedsharipov will not return to the UFC because Zabit Magomedsharipov is getting tired of fighting and surely there is no point in fighting anymore because he got his own company right now and likely he is making tons of money than fighting in the UFC, Zabit Magomedsharipov is healthy and his surgery went well, he might be going in a gym and training but not because he is fighting inside the octagon but rather just stay in shape, and right now he is more focus on his Brother's career than his own, but Zabit Magomedsharipov is more focus now in his business, but all of that I can not confirm yet, because it is not coming from Zabit Magomedsharipov himself, but if this is true then good luck to him, and I am surely going to miss that guy in any way because of his unique style and technique inside the octagon.

Indeed Wilder, as a pure boxer will be more dangerous. But Wilder and Ngannou have identical huge punching power and aggressiveness. But Ngannou for Fury will be an easy fight not because Fury has trained boxing more, but lack of oxygen will defeat Ngannou Fury showed that he can survive hard punches and be quick for all 12 rounds. Ngannou aka oxygen consumer has improved his stamina since his fight against Miocic, but 4-5 rounds is his maximum.

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Still does not look a like a heavyweight to me.

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UFC on ESPN 35 Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-on-espn-35-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5396281

And here are a couple of vids of each fighter's past matches to watchto get you guys hyped.  Font vs Vera is one of the better main event match ups for a non PPV event.

UFC Free Fight:  Font vs Moraes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7lCosdNEUs

UFC Free Fight:  Vera vs Edgar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSL-6t6RF0Q

And here's my event's lottery tickets...  Tail at your own risk.  Enjoy.

Dawson - Fili
Add:  Jotko - Romanov - Levy
Add:  Tiara - Green - Font
Add:  Mazany - Da Silva - Collier
Add:  Connely

Take note that I haven't made the bets yet as the order might change.  But those are my final picks.

Wilder probably more dangerous in a boxing match. Fury probably finds it even easier against Ngannou. It's not about the competitiveness though, its all about big names, and how many seats they can sell. I'll probably watch it since I'm a fan of both, but I won't be taking it seriously, pretty much how I was watching Fury vs Whyte.

I don't mind being at the arse end of your career, and therefore not challenging yourself which I think is true for both of these men. However, Ngannou doesn't really have a whole lot to prove, whereas Fury despite in my mind being the best boxing out there, still has question marks regarding Usyk, and Joshua.

Let me correct you, "both of them want money" I think Ngannou wants money more than having a belt and a title most dangerous man on earth. If curling players would earn millions like boxers, we would see Ngannou saying that either Dana lets him throws these stones, or he will leave UFC. Ngannou is from poor country, poor family. All he cares is having more money, that is his vision of life.

If you ask me, I would not pay to watch Fury vs Ngannou fight, as I have already seen it. It is called Fury vs Wilder parts 1-3.

Dana has been accused of locking in fighters to the UFC, and not allowing them to compete in other competitions even if it's a different sport. I think it probably gets done, but Dana will request a huge share of the prize money. I'm not sure what sort of money we would be talking for that fight, but I expect it to be less than the Conor vs Mayweather fight, so Dana isn't as inclined to accept this one.

Still, I think it gets done. Ngannou isn't going to have a big enough boxing career to be able to make the money he could be making with the UFC, so I imagine Ngannou will be the one to cave in, and give Dana a substantial share in the prize money of the Tyson Fury fight.

I wouldn't really say that Ngannou is a cash cow for UFC. I think both fights with Miočić did more or less the same as his last fight with Gane (approx 350K-400K PPV buys), and that really doesn't put any of those events high on the list of overall PPV buys (it's hard to get exact numbers for UFC270, so this is a ball park approximation on some info). Seeing that his fight with Gane was not all that exciting (for it to sell more), I doubt that FNs next fight will attract a lot of eyes save for a fight with JBJ, but that's a whole different story. I don't think FN has legs to stand on with his demands, at least coming from the UFCs perspective, so I doubt this goes anywhere.

Totally agree and I am not going to argue with that, if a fighters does want to really win knock down his opponent, than leaving the decisions to the judges because certainly they will make their own decision or they can make a bias scoring if the fighter would let it that way, or if a fighter can not make a KO/TKO win at least make the fight be dominant or be in control with the fight, or take the advantage in every fight so you can surely protest or you can have a higher probability in winning in a protest against the judge scorecards, and yes MMA is a pretty new thing there is so much to do and so much to change and rules can surely be change in equal to both fighters,


Francis Ngannou just wants the best for him and Dana White is not giving a thing to his request; this could really take some time to be solved, if Francis Ngannou doesn't want to sign his contract then I think Dana White has some solution with that as well. But the UFC can not let a now well-known fighter and a cash cow for Dana White be gone in just an instant, so they are talking it out one at a time; let's just wait for further news on what may happen.

Francis Ngannou said he won't sign another contract with UFC unless boxing fight with heavyweight fighter Tyson Fury is not part of a deal.
Both of them want to fight and I think that only obstacle is Dana White who doesn't like fighters making more money than he want's them to earn.
If you ask me I would pay to watch this fight and I don't care what Dana or UFC thinks about this.

Can't say it's anything new. It's the lack of consistently in MMA due to it being a newish sport, owned by an individual. Some of couple week's decisions were weird, but you had to agree. Fights were stopped due to illegal elbow and eye poke, with the ref choosing what happened. Why was one fighter taken a point, but the other not? You can hear this makes sense to the commentators as well. I've seen some arguments against the 10-9 scoring, think it's a bit ridiculous to take this away and it works well when a fighter has had a dominant fight. I think refs should have access to strikes absorbed as they are watching in real time. But let's me honest, especially when your trying to take a belt of someone. You have to win, or at least dominate, if fighters don't want to leave it to the judges. Knock them out. Easier said than done, but don't leave it for someone else to decide.

I really think in the ground fight they are looking for the fighter who is in control, and yes the judges are into more strikes than the takedowns because it is easy for them to look and judge the striking but if a fighter is more aggressive and more in control with his fight judges can tend to score more on that, but yes there are many unlikely scores, or some judges are biased, I really think the judging system is not really perfect that is why fighters should pursue more on a KO, or TKO so likely there is no need to go with the scorecards and that fighter really deserve that win, but I am not saying that you are wrong you have your own comment and I really respect that,


Apparently, some people or most fans for that particular fighter are saying that the fight was a robbery, I can not argue with that, because they had their own opinion, but if the majority of fans are complaining about the scorecards then the UFC should change the judges, they should not be biased with the fight, and the UFC should background check them first pertaining if they like some of the fighters then that judge will likely bias on that fighter, there is a huge chance, but the Judge system is not really perfect it has its ups and downs, so I think we should be understandable, and I agree with all you are saying, and pretty much many people don't like some of the judges score and me aswell I don't really like most of the scores, but I am respectful on their side, that is their job if they would give a biased score then that is their decision because they are the judges, and yeah it is not 100% accurate.

It hasn't been less reliable or more crazy over time.  It's nothing new...  It has always been that way, esp if you have Chris Lee judging the matches.  Lolol.  And some those guys have no idea what they're doing imo.  I think the UFC should file an official complaint about these judges to whatever commission they came from.  Watch Holloway vs Volk 2 and tell me if Volk won that match.  I mean sure it can be argued for him since it was a split decision but I think there was a bigger argument for Holloway.  Dunno...

But if you're asking for straight robberies, no that's pretty rare.  And it would be too obvious.

The 10 point must system seems fine for me. It will account deductions and it will justify very dominating rounds that deserve 10-8 or even 10-7. Although this is a bit complicated in mma unlike in boxing where knockdowns serve as basis most of the time.

When a strike lands, it hurts and diminish someone's effectivity as the fight progressed. Wrestling is just like putting yourself only in a dominant position to launch strikes or submit your opponent. 

Why judges use 10 point score system instead of just choosing who won round? If a fighter looses round, it does not matter if he did it with 9-10 or 8-10 score. He has lost that round anyway. But this 2 point difference, can play a significant role in end during calculation. I dont like that judges have "entertainment point of view" approach. They value striking more than wrestling.

I also dont understand why there is such a huge difference between judges inside octagon. Like Mazzagatti and Dead Is it possible to create or find an universal judge. That wont do early stoppage or wont stop until fighter get few dozens of unanswered punches in face from full mount.