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Why judges use 10 point score system instead of just choosing who won round? If a fighter looses round, it does not matter if he did it with 9-10 or 8-10 score. He has lost that round anyway. But this 2 point difference, can play a significant role in end during calculation. I dont like that judges have "entertainment point of view" approach. They value striking more than wrestling.

I also dont understand why there is such a huge difference between judges inside octagon. Like Mazzagatti and Dead Is it possible to create or find an universal judge. That wont do early stoppage or wont stop until fighter get few dozens of unanswered punches in face from full mount.

I'm not sure if bringing in more judges would be beneficial, and potentially allowing the judges to review each round in between rounds when the fighters are in their corners if that makes any sense. Although, I guess it depends on what they see in that minute or so, and could potentially swing their favour depending on what minutes they actually review. I don't know the solution, although I'd like to think if we had five judges instead of the traditional three, there might be more consistency, at least to mitigate the wild decisions that some of the judges have on fights.

It says it all when a two judges score a fight 2-1, and then one of the judges scores it 3-0, and this happens in fights which I didn't even deem close.

Happens not just in MMA but also in boxing. Judges are people too who can sometimes support one athlete. My kid who isn't really a fan of MMA sits and watch beside me yet act like a judge.

When you see a fighter run in the middle of the cage right when the fight starts or when the referee lets the fighter stand up while the other still wants to strike if the other attempts to get up.

While I'm definitely not going to start yelling corruption at the top of my lungs because I don't actually think that's the case, I do believe some of the decisions as of recent have been awful. Seriously, even when I think a fighter has dominated their opponent, I'm a little worried if it comes to a decision. To be honest, its partly the reason I've been going for more underdogs as of recent, because they have a chance simply because of the inconsistency.

Although, I guess we do have to take into consideration that the judges might not have the best angles, as far as I'm aware they don't have any screens specifically for reviewing the fight, and all they have is cage side real time viewing. So, while their viewing might be good for seeing all the action, angles can change the perspective of a fight.

Honestly, I think they reward control time up against the cage while not doing anything way too much, and they also kind of favour pressuring your opponent which I also disagree with.

I am unhappy with judging. I can closed eyes when judge in the ring isnt able to sometimes notice something (like punches in the back of the head, elbow on the ground or fighters using fence as a help against takedowns). But something must be done with judges that fill score cards. There are not strict and obvious rules on how to make decision who won round. Fighter can cycle for 4 minutes, make a takedown and win a round, while other fighter connected more and was more aggressive. I dont like that striking is value more than ground game like wrestling or grappling. If a one fighter was throwing strikes for 2.5minutes, and then spent 2.5 minutes defending from being chocked, according do judges, he won the round, but I would give a draw.

Well, we can say your right and also we can say that you are wrong, well you are right because most fights in the Heavyweight division doesn't really matter to some people or we are just watching raw power of a fighter and there are no specific technical approach to each fight some just needed raw strength to finish the job,

And you are wrong as well because not all fight in the Heavyweight division are boring or there are no technical approach when winning, I'd say the Ciryl Gane and Francis Ngannou, fight is a big success, when Ngannou is in the pinch he needs to switch he's style in order to win, and he doesn't went in his usual routine to just knock out his opponent, and I think this is because he truly acknowledge that he can not beat Ciryl Gane in a brawl so he needs to take the fight to the ground and this is the very 1st time Ngannou went to a takedown, and add up his injuries that time he surely need to change plans in order to win, and the fight that I think most people really love, that is why I really love Ciryl Gane when he fights he had put up a light in the heavyweight division that this division is not just about strength,


Well, every people have their opinion, and if a judge is bias towards a fighter, we can not do something about it but just hope there can be a rematch, and the UFC can not control that, but 1 thing is certain, that is why there are 3 judges in the UFC to score the fighters and likely that is why each camp can protest if they have seen anything wrong with the judge score card, anything can process that way, and if a fighter doesn't want to end up for the judge to decide who the winner is, he better Knock out his opponent so there is no need for the scorecards to let the decision the outcome of the fight. 

Is anyone unhappy with judging decisions in MMA over the last few months?

Is it my imagination or is judging becoming less reliable and more crazy over time?

Jessica Andrade won in main event against Amanda Lemos and I expected that to happen, like I predicted in Sportsbet prediction competition.
One thing I didn't expect to see is that fight will end so fast in first round with that arm triangle choke, but she has great skills and I think she is coming back strong after few defeats.

Yup that mfker ruined the first tier of my event's lottery ticket.  -_-  I missed the first couple of matches but when I checked the result at Tapology, I had to read the result again.  It read something like:  'Disqualification via eye gouge.'.  Wtf.

And yeah...  Lemos was doing fine the first minute but then the timing of that arm going thru and setting up for the arm triangle.  Another wtf monent.  Same with Vanatta.  Doing ok the first couple of minutes until he wasn't.  And there was another one, I think it was Grant.  I don't wanna remember.  Lolol.  It was a disaster event for me.

I don't know if he really does. I mean, most fighters don't. These winning streaks only give him fuel to continue doing this far past his health limits. But this also shows a much deeper issue with the HW division, and that is a lack of new quality talent. HW has long been the least interesting division and it just shows the underlying issue of those weight divisions and how other sports (namely American Football) are offering bigger guys much more than MMA is, and therefore quality athletes are choosing other avenues.

He really was too Excited in doing such things, and that is two strikes for him, 1st was the kick on the crotch, and then an eye poke, Dean Barry was on the advantage before the two fouls he committed, and pretty much Mike Jackson win because of disqualification, and he is not feeling great about it, a win with Disqualification is not a happy feeling at all, and I guess both fighters are feeling upset, Dean Barry should learn his lesson and be much careful in doing things that are inappropriate and getting a fight into a disqualification.


He only needed 3 more wins so he could have another similar winning streak last 2015, but Andrei Arlovski is at 43 years old, he needed to retire soon, but just like I said back when I commented on Andrei Arlovski, he surely knows his limitation, and I think he still wants to fight this, but I guess he can not compete in the top 5 of the heavyweight anymore, so upon reaching that desired winning streak again he needs to fight lower in the division.

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But in the upcoming event, I think I would like to see Marlon Vera VS Rob Font, Darren Elkins VS Tristan Connelly and Alexandr Romanov VS Chase Sherman will be the one I am looking to bet and make my picks.

the crazy thing is, that if Arlovski wins rhis, he will be on a similar wining streak as he had around 2015, and back then we thought he was allready done XD He is a god damn machine. And I would like to think that he could again make some headlines before hanging up the glives while on top (so to speak)

Dean Barry ruined a fight that he was basically cruising through. Think he might have got a little bit too excited, which ultimately bit him in the arse. Main event was good, Andrade I thought was brilliant, first ever standing triangle I believe in the UFC.

I'm looking forward to the next event, I think there's a few tasty fights, and one I'll likely put a bet on for. There was nothing wrong with last nights event, it was just rather iffy in terms of odds, and the fights being evenly matched,

Now that the UFC Fight Night: Lemos VS Andrade has settled here comes the new event for the UFC,

UFC Fight Night: Font vs. Vera
Saturday 04.30.2022

Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
Ownership: Endeavor
Venue: UFC APEX



MAIN CARD

Bantamweight: Rob Font    VS     Marlon Vera
Heavyweight: Jake Collier    VS    Andrei Arlovski
Featherweight: Darren Elkins    VS    Tristan Connelly
Middleweight: Gerald Meerschaert    VS    Krzysztof Jotko
Lightweight: Jared Gordon    VS    Grant Dawson
Featherweight: Andre Fili    VS    Joanderson Brito

PRELIMINARY CARD

Women's Flyweight: Gina Mazany    VS    Shanna Young
Flyweight: Daniel da Silva    VS    Francisco Figueiredo
Lightweight: Mike Breeden    VS    Natan Levy
Welterweight: Yohan Lainesse    VS    Gabe Green
Flyweight: Tatsuro Taira    VS    Carlos Candelario
Heavyweight: Alexandr Romanov    VS    Chase Sherman

Information was from TAPOLOGY

Here are the results of this weekend event:



I was take by Fury vs Whyte fight, so I have missed this event. By look on results of main card, on a timing and amount of submissions, I would say that these fights looked like a mismatch to me. I think I am not going to search the Internet for replays. But I am definitely gonna search for Jackson vs Barry fight, to see this eye gouging. Just to have another proof that UFC gloves are bad, compared to Pride or Bellator.

Mostly agree with all your leans except for Lins.  Dunno..,  Ever since he won 1m USD in the PFL grand prix I feel like he doesn't really care anymore.  I mean yeah he still likes fighting and the pay but as far as wanting to win goes, I'm not sure.  He is kinda has fast hands tho and quick movement and Prachniao is kinda low volume.

And it looks like everybody made weight and there no last minute canellations...  Good to see.  

Jessica Andrade (115.5) vs Amanda Lemos (115)
Clay Guida (154) vs Claudio Puelles (155.5)
Maycee Barber (125.5) vs Montana De La Rosa (125.5)
Alexandr Romanov (240.5) vs Chase Sherman (249)
Charles Jourdain (144.5) vs Lando Vannata (146)
Evan Elder (170) vs Preston Parsons (170)
Marc-Andre Barriault (188.5) vs Jordan Wright (190)
Dwight Grant (170.5) vs Sergey Khandozhko (169.5)
Tyson Pedro (205) vs Ike Villanueva (205.5)
Cameron Else (135) vs Aori Qileng (136)
Philipe Lins (205) vs Marcin Prachnio (205)
Dean Barry (170.5) vs Mike Jackson (170)

Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxUpqcETNgs

Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_xyNcV4Fyo

I certainly believe that Jon Jones is a wreck loose the UFC shouldn't even bother taking his mental stability fix because whatever happens to him inside that Octagon can surely cause many problems in his mental health, he could hurt anyone, not even his partner anymore but even some bystanders and I agree Jones is not in his shape anymore even if he gained weight for the Heavyweight in is not really stable, I really think his career is over after this fight if he wins he can eventually face a fighter that is not in his caliber whether it's going to be Ciryl Gane or Tai Tuivasa, Jon Jones is just good in fighting women, the UFC should not make him a champion, but giving him another chance will only make things worst,


I haven't heard of it yet, but that is the Lightweight division, if Khamzat Chimaev wants that then that is a good thing for him and he could have a double belt and champion on the two-division, but if Oliveira or Gaethje could get injured I really don't want to wish anyone to get injured but if Khamzat Makhachev would likely to fight on that position then I am willing to support it, but not wish any fighter to get injuries.

Ask, and you shall receive! Although, disclaimer I'm not including any of these picks in a betting slip, as I'm not overly confident on a lot of them. So, for anyone looking for some influence on what you choose, bear that in mind.

Dean Barry
Philipe Lins
Preston Parsons
Cameron Else
Tyson Pedro
Dwight Grant
Marc-André Barriault
Lando Vannata
Alexandr Romanov
Montana De La Rosa
Clay Guida
Jéssica Andrade

Haven't got many dogs in the race for this event, so I'm fancying quite a few underdog wins. Big favourites for me personally would be Alexandr Romanov, and Dean Barry. Other than that, toss up on a lot of those. Potentially Jessica Andrade, but I tend to find WMMA odds are a little skewed with the favourite, and it's often much more competitive than the odds show.

^  Yeah, I used to think the same.  But these days I don't mind so much.  I just want to see Jon Jones and Stipe Miocic throw leather, belt or no belt.  And I think it's really advantageous for the fighters if they were going at it for a belt, be it an interim one or a real one.  I'm not sure but it's possible that they get paid more since championship fights get a share of the PPV buys.

Here's the stream for the official weigh ins.

UFC Fight Night 205:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itsx2Kvi7eU

Enjoy..  

And guys..  Post your picks, c'mon!  I'm the only guy hanging my balls out in the open every week.  Lolol.

Edit:  Well in fairness there are a couple of other guys with me.

You could be right on the money with that one, but I am just so fed up with those interim titles and the whole ''fake belt'' narrative that comes with that, I just don't have the capacity to tolerate those word regurgitations.  Every time that gets mentioned I just hope it gets avoided somehow. I mean, especially in cases where the fighter is recovering from an injury, and since he actually fought once this year, I don't think they have a reason to do it, but you know what, UFC will UFC whenever they can.