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April 01, 2022, 03:41:21 AM
^  After what happened during him and Yan's last match up, there's going to be no excuse coming from Aljo.  Yan showed that he was the better fighter that night.  Losing in the rematch would only be showing something like the inevitability of the crowd being shown who the real winner of the first fight is...  If that makes any sense.

And it isn't that Volk chose the weakest opponent.  The guy is a stud and beat most of all the best in his weight class.  TKZ is a former 155'er dropping down to 145.

Aljamain Sterling can not make excuses anymore, from their last fight that was just a mistake from Petr Yan, but all advantage from their 1st fight was for Petr Yan, and yes it's not really making sense at all if Aljamain Sterling win this fight he needs to win by KO TKO or Submission, so there is no more doubt on peoples minds, right now stake.com's odds for this fight was a flat 5.00 for Sterling while 1.20 for Yan making Petr yan the likely favorite to win this fight people are treating Aljamain Sterling an a nobody and not as a real champion at all, well I can not blame them for feeling this way, because I really thought so as well that Petr yan should be champion instead of Sterling.

And right now on the news Chael Sonnen issue was pretty much getting more controversial, because in the police report that Sonnen was asleep or unconscious when the altercation occur, just because both him and his wife is taking sleeping pills and Sonnen added that he is taking Ambien and there are crazy stories that is you are taking Ambien you can do stuff that you don't realize that you are doing, because you are unconscious and subconsciously you are doing something you didn't know, this is really getting crazy I don't know if Chael Sonnen is just making an excuse and knowing about the effects of Ambien might think of an excuse this low, I really don't know about that drug but if many would just takes the blame on a drug pill then many will be acquitted.
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March 31, 2022, 08:16:01 PM
I would not really be counting on Aljo fighting worse or even losing due to his neck injury. I mean, fights have rigorous health checks, don't they? Otherwise you could provide any of the fighters the opportunities they have been waiting for, to defeat a certain opponent or just for an easy win. I think since Aljo was let to fight, then obviously his neck injury will have no major role in his chances of winning.

A competetive sport is always fair.
Considering multiple fighters have fought with broken bones, and former champion Michael Bisping basically fought with one eye, I'm going to go with no they don't have rigorous health checks. Although, they're definitely checked over by a doctor, but they likely don't get scans etc. So, it would be easy to hide injuries which aren't visible via a physical check. Which to be honest, is most injuries in the sport.

You aren't going to prove muscle injuries, or weakness of a certain part of the body because they haven't quite recovered yet. Obviously, there are scans for muscle tears, and what not. Although, the only access they'd have of that would be immediately after the surgery not months down the line.

I doubt the neck injury will have an effect, what might be is the fear of hurting it again. You know when you see a fighter get visibly hurt from a kick, so they instinctively drop their guard lower to protect. It could have a similar effect where they''re subconsciously trying to protect that area. It's a bit hard with the neck though, I'll admit Tongue.
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March 31, 2022, 08:09:03 PM
The main enemy of Aljo will be his neck surgery. Or if he looses, that will be a good excuse.
Does anyone knows, being a champion gives any benefits, except a higher payment for title defense fight? I mean if it is worth skipping fights or postponing it for a later period?

What about Volkanovski vs Zombie fight? Many told that Volkanovski chose weakest among opponent among given.

I would not really be counting on Aljo fighting worse or even losing due to his neck injury. I mean, fights have rigorous health checks, don't they? Otherwise you could provide any of the fighters the opportunities they have been waiting for, to defeat a certain opponent or just for an easy win. I think since Aljo was let to fight, then obviously his neck injury will have no major role in his chances of winning.

A competetive sport is always fair.
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March 31, 2022, 07:54:05 PM
Aljo actually has no KO power.  He'd have to grapple with Yan or grind him against the cage if his TD's don't work to nullify Yan's tools.  And yup, Aljo is really pretty good in wrestling and BJJ.  He finished Sandhagen in under a minute or so via rear naked choke.

And I'm actually hyped for the rematch.  Aljo has a good coach in Ray Longo who's considered to be one of MMA's best coaches.  Let's see what kind of adjustments they have cooking.  Wink  But yeah the lean is Yan but the line should prolly be closer.  Dunno...
I've seen him land a few nice shots on fighters, while not actually knocking them out it usually puts them in a bad enough position to submit them, or at least threaten. So, while I wouldn't go as far as saying he  doesn't have knock out power, he most certainly isn't a knockout artist.

I'd like to be hyped about it, I'm just feeling deflated. I just feel its a mismatch. We know exactly what Aljo is going to do, hes going to try, and hit the mat as soon as possible. Although, his opponent has some serious take down defense. I wouldn't mind being surprised here though, if Aljo can get the job done, that might spice up the division quite some bit. I think other fighters would fancy themselves against Aljo instead of Yan.
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March 31, 2022, 03:09:03 PM
The main enemy of Aljo will be his neck surgery. Or if he looses, that will be a good excuse.
Does anyone knows, being a champion gives any benefits, except a higher payment for title defense fight? I mean if it is worth skipping fights or postponing it for a later period?
Aljo biggest problem is that he was not recognized by Oscar award organizers for his acting performance in his last fight with Yan, that give him fake title and contract with sponsors. Smiley
This fight was more than one year ago and he didn't have any fight after that, while Yan won against Cory Sandhagen.
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March 31, 2022, 01:45:28 PM
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It was a bad illegal knee by Yan. I thought at that stage of the fight Aljo was a lot fatigued and it seemed like he could be knocked down at any moment but Yan did not take that chance. Instead, he threw an illegal knee. And Aljo is a tough guy. If he could get up he would have got up.
It was definitely a nasty illegal blow, although I do get the impression that he played on it a bit, despite it being a heavy blow. At that point in the fight, the only way he was winning was through disqualification or via a shocking knockout/submission. Plus, we've seen it before where fighters are asking what will happen with the result, as some times they reward it based on the rounds passed or they deem it a no contest. So, it's no longer allowed to ask the ref that, and they can only answer the doctors questions.

Yeah, he played it. How much is anybody's guess, but, again, I will not shun him completely for doing so. In the end, it's the old 'don't hate the player, hate the game' situation in a sense that if the ruleset allows it..well, it's the rullset. As I said, we can twist and turn this whichever way, but I doubt we can make a decisive conclusion out of anything.

Yeah, we beat that topic to death when it happened, and we really couldn't find a definitive conclusion on how it should have played out. But the outcome has been set and moving forward from that I kinda wonder what Aljo brings to the table much more than Yan. Not sure if he could still win, but at least we might get a better performance from him.
I'm hoping so, you can't really blame Aljo for winning in that way, so it wasn't his fault, and its not like hes got to where he is out of luck. The guy is talented, I just think Yan in particular is a bad match up for him. Although, Aljo has the quality to submit, and knock out anyone. I've always been impressed with his wrestling skills, and it wouldn't be the first time that hes losing, and pulls out a submission out of nowhere.
 
I'm not super hyped for the fight, however I'm hoping its better than last time. I'm not a fan of total dominance fights, I prefer you know, an actual competitive fight.

I completely understand not being really hyped about the fight. I would say it's partially because of how the first fight went, but it's also the fact that the market is oversaturated IMHO. There is to much going on and I just feel like that takes away from the anticipation of certain fights. At least that is my feeling.
Don't think you both watched fight, or your memory serves you incorrectly- which is understandable for the way aljo was after the fight. Embarassing to say the least, claiming to be champ when he was "outclassed". I love Yan, but he first fight was highly competitive. Aljo had only once fought in the later rounds since his first UFC appearance. Although he slowed down considerably, his stamina and ability was on clear display. You can't take a hit like aljo was in the the 4th if your not in considerably good shape. Yan is a patience killer, excellent boxing, and for his size, suprisingly good wrestling. Aljo, although his style ultimately led to his demise, the constant movement. He has a unique style with a huge arsenal of attacks and is a dangerous man. The first fight wasn't a domination, it was skill and endurance between two of the very best. Really looking forward to the rematch. Aljo has nothing to lose with everything to prove and think he may get the win by submission, early. If not, Yan will pick him apart on the feet going five rounds. Let's go uncle dana
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March 31, 2022, 10:19:39 AM
^  After what happened during him and Yan's last match up, there's going to be no excuse coming from Aljo.  Yan showed that he was the better fighter that night.  Losing in the rematch would only be showing something like the inevitability of the crowd being shown who the real winner of the first fight is...  If that makes any sense.

And it isn't that Volk chose the weakest opponent.  The guy is a stud and beat most of all the best in his weight class.  TKZ is a former 155'er dropping down to 145.
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March 31, 2022, 08:02:16 AM
The main enemy of Aljo will be his neck surgery. Or if he looses, that will be a good excuse.
Does anyone knows, being a champion gives any benefits, except a higher payment for title defense fight? I mean if it is worth skipping fights or postponing it for a later period?

What about Volkanovski vs Zombie fight? Many told that Volkanovski chose weakest among opponent among given.
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March 31, 2022, 07:42:36 AM
Yeah, we beat that topic to death when it happened, and we really couldn't find a definitive conclusion on how it should have played out. But the outcome has been set and moving forward from that I kinda wonder what Aljo brings to the table much more than Yan. Not sure if he could still win, but at least we might get a better performance from him.
I'm hoping so, you can't really blame Aljo for winning in that way, so it wasn't his fault, and its not like hes got to where he is out of luck. The guy is talented, I just think Yan in particular is a bad match up for him. Although, Aljo has the quality to submit, and knock out anyone. I've always been impressed with his wrestling skills, and it wouldn't be the first time that hes losing, and pulls out a submission out of nowhere.

I'm not super hyped for the fight, however I'm hoping its better than last time. I'm not a fan of total dominance fights, I prefer you know, an actual competitive fight.

Aljo actually has no KO power.  He'd have to grapple with Yan or grind him against the cage if his TD's don't work to nullify Yan's tools.  And yup, Aljo is really pretty good in wrestling and BJJ.  He finished Sandhagen in under a minute or so via rear naked choke.

And I'm actually hyped for the rematch.  Aljo has a good coach in Ray Longo who's considered to be one of MMA's best coaches.  Let's see what kind of adjustments they have cooking.  Wink  But yeah the lean is Yan but the line should prolly be closer.  Dunno...
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March 31, 2022, 05:53:00 AM
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It was a bad illegal knee by Yan. I thought at that stage of the fight Aljo was a lot fatigued and it seemed like he could be knocked down at any moment but Yan did not take that chance. Instead, he threw an illegal knee. And Aljo is a tough guy. If he could get up he would have got up.
It was definitely a nasty illegal blow, although I do get the impression that he played on it a bit, despite it being a heavy blow. At that point in the fight, the only way he was winning was through disqualification or via a shocking knockout/submission. Plus, we've seen it before where fighters are asking what will happen with the result, as some times they reward it based on the rounds passed or they deem it a no contest. So, it's no longer allowed to ask the ref that, and they can only answer the doctors questions.

Yeah, he played it. How much is anybody's guess, but, again, I will not shun him completely for doing so. In the end, it's the old 'don't hate the player, hate the game' situation in a sense that if the ruleset allows it..well, it's the rullset. As I said, we can twist and turn this whichever way, but I doubt we can make a decisive conclusion out of anything.

Yeah, we beat that topic to death when it happened, and we really couldn't find a definitive conclusion on how it should have played out. But the outcome has been set and moving forward from that I kinda wonder what Aljo brings to the table much more than Yan. Not sure if he could still win, but at least we might get a better performance from him.
I'm hoping so, you can't really blame Aljo for winning in that way, so it wasn't his fault, and its not like hes got to where he is out of luck. The guy is talented, I just think Yan in particular is a bad match up for him. Although, Aljo has the quality to submit, and knock out anyone. I've always been impressed with his wrestling skills, and it wouldn't be the first time that hes losing, and pulls out a submission out of nowhere.
 
I'm not super hyped for the fight, however I'm hoping its better than last time. I'm not a fan of total dominance fights, I prefer you know, an actual competitive fight.

I completely understand not being really hyped about the fight. I would say it's partially because of how the first fight went, but it's also the fact that the market is oversaturated IMHO. There is to much going on and I just feel like that takes away from the anticipation of certain fights. At least that is my feeling.
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March 31, 2022, 03:29:33 AM
This is a combat sport and this sport is built on people getting hurt. So, I don't think there is not much time for people to think about ethics. Even though he might not deserve it, it is the game. And we have to accept it.
I kind of get your point, but at the end of the day we aren't savages. I don't want to see fighters get unnecessarily hurt, I like a knockout as much as the next person, although I don't like to see cheating or blows which were completely unnecessary, that's why we have referees in there. So, I don't agree with your entirely, and I do think vacating the belt instead of rewarding the person who basically was losing all fight up until the disqualification  is the better way to go about things in the future.

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It was a bad illegal knee by Yan. I thought at that stage of the fight Aljo was a lot fatigued and it seemed like he could be knocked down at any moment but Yan did not take that chance. Instead, he threw an illegal knee. And Aljo is a tough guy. If he could get up he would have got up.
It was definitely a nasty illegal blow, although I do get the impression that he played on it a bit, despite it being a heavy blow. At that point in the fight, the only way he was winning was through disqualification or via a shocking knockout/submission. Plus, we've seen it before where fighters are asking what will happen with the result, as some times they reward it based on the rounds passed or they deem it a no contest. So, it's no longer allowed to ask the ref that, and they can only answer the doctors questions.
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March 30, 2022, 10:32:44 PM
I'm still not a fan of handing over a belt based on a disqualification. It should just be vacated, since the opponent didn't actually win the belt, but the champion should forfeit the right to the belt if its their mistake intentional or not. However, they should probably be given the chance if it was deemed accidental, to win it back via rematch. Aljo is basically walking around with a belt he hasn't earned, and if I was him that would eat me alive. I expect big things from both men, thinking that Aljo will be a better this time though, and Yan might be a little hesitant since it'll be in the back of his mind.

This is a combat sport and this sport is built on people getting hurt. So, I don't think there is not much time for people to think about ethics. Even though he might not deserve it, it is the game. And we have to accept it.



Yeah, we beat that topic to death when it happened, and we really couldn't find a definitive conclusion on how it should have played out. But the outcome has been set and moving forward from that I kinda wonder what Aljo brings to the table much more than Yan. Not sure if he could still win, but at least we might get a better performance from him.

It was a bad illegal knee by Yan. I thought at that stage of the fight Aljo was a lot fatigued and it seemed like he could be knocked down at any moment but Yan did not take that chance. Instead, he threw an illegal knee. And Aljo is a tough guy. If he could get up he would have got up.
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March 30, 2022, 10:22:19 PM
Not to become a champion, but get his champions belt back Cheesy He was a champ and lost his belt due to a stupid mistake. Would be funny if Yans gets a DC or looses. It will take a lot of time before he will get another title fight. Dont forget, that before that fight, Aljo had 19-3 (or 11-3 in UFC) record. He is not a punching bag after all, just a bad actor Cheesy That would have blacked out if Will Smith slaps him Cheesy

Aljamain Sterling is worthy for a (Bleep) slap, by Will Smith that Disqualification win over Petr Yan is not counted because of that mistakes, and Sterling is the first one to win in the UFC over a disqualification, that accuraccy and volume of strikes Yan have got in their fight was in a lost because of that Disqualification, that winning with Disqualification should not be counted; the rules should be changed.

I'm still not a fan of handing over a belt based on a disqualification. It should just be vacated, since the opponent didn't actually win the belt, but the champion should forfeit the right to the belt if its their mistake intentional or not. However, they should probably be given the chance if it was deemed accidental, to win it back via rematch. Aljo is basically walking around with a belt he hasn't earned, and if I was him that would eat me alive. I expect big things from both men, thinking that Aljo will be a better this time though, and Yan might be a little hesitant since it'll be in the back of his mind.

I Agree with these, it is not a legitimate win for Aljamain Sterling and the belt should be vacated since in the eyes of many Aljamain Sterling is not really qualified in winning the Belt, but Petr Yan just did an international knee to Sterling, so because of that action the Belt should be vacated with no one holding into it, I totally agree with you, but I don't know if this rule was change or not. I should check on it later.

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March 30, 2022, 06:23:30 PM
Yeah, we beat that topic to death when it happened, and we really couldn't find a definitive conclusion on how it should have played out. But the outcome has been set and moving forward from that I kinda wonder what Aljo brings to the table much more than Yan. Not sure if he could still win, but at least we might get a better performance from him.
I'm hoping so, you can't really blame Aljo for winning in that way, so it wasn't his fault, and its not like hes got to where he is out of luck. The guy is talented, I just think Yan in particular is a bad match up for him. Although, Aljo has the quality to submit, and knock out anyone. I've always been impressed with his wrestling skills, and it wouldn't be the first time that hes losing, and pulls out a submission out of nowhere.

I'm not super hyped for the fight, however I'm hoping its better than last time. I'm not a fan of total dominance fights, I prefer you know, an actual competitive fight.
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March 30, 2022, 03:10:12 PM
I'm still not a fan of handing over a belt based on a disqualification. It should just be vacated, since the opponent didn't actually win the belt, but the champion should forfeit the right to the belt if its their mistake intentional or not. However, they should probably be given the chance if it was deemed accidental, to win it back via rematch. Aljo is basically walking around with a belt he hasn't earned, and if I was him that would eat me alive. I expect big things from both men, thinking that Aljo will be a better this time though, and Yan might be a little hesitant since it'll be in the back of his mind.

Yeah, we beat that topic to death when it happened, and we really couldn't find a definitive conclusion on how it should have played out. But the outcome has been set and moving forward from that I kinda wonder what Aljo brings to the table much more than Yan. Not sure if he could still win, but at least we might get a better performance from him.
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March 30, 2022, 08:09:04 AM
^  Yup it's hilarious that Aljo was calling Yan the paper champ weeks or maybe even months before they went to the cage.  Cheesy  

Anyway this weekend is gonna be a bit boring with no UFC and F1.  And I don't think the EPL matches will be even that good with the players just coming off international duty.

Here's a couple of Yans matches, one of which is vs Aljo.  Lol.

UFC Free Fight:  Yan vs Sterling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjFXoI89zMM

UFC Free Fight:  Yan vs Sandhagen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a418C-e0i5Y

^  If Aljo loses vs Yan I think a rematch between Sandhagen and Aljo is in order.  Would've loved to see it go for at least two rounds.

Edit:  Here's one of the best of Volk's performances.  You guys should def watch it.

UFC Free Fight:  Volkanovski vs Ortega
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bimKDKIK-x0
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March 30, 2022, 05:32:01 AM
I'm still not a fan of handing over a belt based on a disqualification. It should just be vacated, since the opponent didn't actually win the belt, but the champion should forfeit the right to the belt if its their mistake intentional or not. However, they should probably be given the chance if it was deemed accidental, to win it back via rematch. Aljo is basically walking around with a belt he hasn't earned, and if I was him that would eat me alive. I expect big things from both men, thinking that Aljo will be a better this time though, and Yan might be a little hesitant since it'll be in the back of his mind.
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March 30, 2022, 04:36:02 AM
Not to become a champion, but get his champions belt back Cheesy He was a champ and lost his belt due to a stupid mistake. Would be funny if Yans gets a DC or looses. It will take a lot of time before he will get another title fight. Dont forget, that before that fight, Aljo had 19-3 (or 11-3 in UFC) record. He is not a punching bag after all, just a bad actor Cheesy That would have blacked out if Will Smith slaps him Cheesy
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March 30, 2022, 12:01:19 AM
I'll be rooting for Burns, and The Korean Zombie. I actually think Burns is going to be more formidable than most think, even if he doesn't win. I'll openly admit that Burns shouldn't be the favourite in this match up, but I do think he's underrated in the division. He has decent grappling skill, wrestling, and he has that power shot that would put the best out.

As for the Korean Zombie, I'll be hoping he wins, but I can't really see it. Age is not on his side anymore, and hes going against an opponent that is high volume. Probably going to be a tough night whether it goes the distance or not probably depends on how much punishment he's willing to take. I'm hoping for a competitive fight, but definitely don't see him going on to win it.

I surely agree, with Gilbert Burns huge build I think that Khamzat Chimaev will surely be having a hard time with him, taking him on the ground, his last fight against Li Jingliang is an easy feat because Li Jingliang is not like Burns that has that bulky build, but for me I am still be joining the hype train, I know what happens with Cyril Gane versus Francis Ngannou but I still think that Khamzat Chimaev will still shine on the ground even though he may struggle against Burns I will still go with Khamzat Chimaev despite that advantage with strength on Gilbert Burns, because if he can not overcome this one he is not suitable to take on Kamaru Usman

And with the Volkanovski VS The Korean Zombie, I will be siding with Volkanovski even though I want the korean zombie to win this, I am really expecting Alexander Volkanovski to win, he has great stand up and have a decent takedown as well, in my opinion he has a technical mentality to win this fight and with the Korean Zombie I really think this durable chin had wither because of age, I can see that he can put up a fight with Volkanovski but Alex will surely punish him so much.


Henry Cejudo refused to be in Yans courner. That is expected, Tripple C, himself suggest being in Yans corner. And by knowing how they troll and trash talk each other, it was not a  surprise he refused. Suga Sean O'Malley - is useless person in Yans corner due to language barrier. Yans level of English is somewhere around your level of Russian Cheesy

Khabib and AKA team is near. They can be helpful. In general, I dont think Yan needs someone special in a fight against Aljo. He could even put two his suns there, and they will be a better motivation to end this fight as quickly and persuasively as possible.

I expect big things for Petr Yan, and this could be an upset for the Champion; this could be a chance for Petr Yan to become Champion, I guess even though Khabib Nurmagomedov is in Yan's corner or anybody else, I am expecting him to still win this. But I would like to see Khabib Nurmagomedov in Yan's Corner. I would love to see that, even though Petr Yan would not listen to Khabib, a motivation for him to finish Sterling is there, for me. Khabib Nurmagomedov in my corner will be a motivation for me.
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March 29, 2022, 05:45:03 AM
What about Sterling vs Yan fight? Expected outcome, another oscar play or upset? As expected, Khabib is going to be Yans corner. Bet I think Yan is not going to listen his tips much. As previously, “knee” from the corner cost him champtions belt.

This will be very head shaking for Petr Yan. We cannot be quite certain if Khabib, Henry Cejudo or the others that Petr Yan asked to be in his corner would agree. It also appears that the only fighter who agreed to be in his corner is Suga Sean O'Malley. There were other news articles that were mentioning that Petr Yan ignored Khabib.


Henry Cejudo refused to be in Yans courner. That is expected, Tripple C, himself suggest being in Yans corner. And by knowing how they troll and trash talk each other, it was not a  surprise he refused. Suga Sean O'Malley - is useless person in Yans corner due to language barrier. Yans level of English is somewhere around your level of Russian Cheesy

Khabib and AKA team is near. They can be helpful. In general, I dont think Yan needs someone special in a fight against Aljo. He could even put two his suns there, and they will be a better motivation to end this fight as quickly and persuasively as possible.
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