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April 21, 2022, 04:33:55 PM
I'll probably watch the event, as it probably will be a competitive night, I just won't be betting on it. Too many variables, and I don't have enough information other than old tapes, and some of the fighters don't really have a lot of tape to watch either.

I always forget to chuck my predictions in the games, and rounds thread. Hopefully I remember by the end of the week, since I've learned my lessons about predicting to early with all the drops outs, and step ins.

Now, I know this is not directly related with UFC, but this is what happens when you are trying to piss of Mike Tyson in plane Smiley
Tyson, Ngannou, and well pretty much every Heavyweight in the UFC you definitely don't want to be pissing off. Braver than me if you choose to do so.
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April 21, 2022, 04:26:10 PM
Thinking of just putting out some predictions, however I probably won't be betting on anything this weekend. Not liking the look of the card, and I'm not too familiar with a lot of the fighters. Thinking of saving my money for the coming weeks.
I have the same feeling like you, and I will maybe watch main event Jessica Andrade against Amanda Lemos in all Brazillian fight.
There are no other fights that are interesting to me this time but I did place my prediction picks in Games and rounds, there is always a chance of winning free bets from Sportsbet Wink

Now, I know this is not directly related with UFC, but this is what happens when you are trying to piss of Mike Tyson in plane Smiley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3C4pWwDqps
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April 21, 2022, 10:38:45 AM
Thinking of just putting out some predictions, however I probably won't be betting on anything this weekend. Not liking the look of the card, and I'm not too familiar with a lot of the fighters. Thinking of saving my money for the coming weeks.

^  Yup same..  And I think the UFC would make a match for the winner as interim champion since Ngannou is still recovering from his knee surgery.  Dana White is trying to leverage that interim belt to make sure Ngannou stays in line and fights or he'll be stripped off his title.  Ngannou is undergoing a contract dispute with the UFC.
I think the UFC will be the ones to cave, since I believe they need him more than he might need them. Ngannou definitely has some leverage going into boxing, and while he might not make it anywhere big, he would probably make a lot more money. So, I guess it depends on his goals. Whether he wants to carve out a legacy or bring in as much money as possible for his family.
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April 21, 2022, 09:20:07 AM
There is lot of talking that Jon Jones is finally coming back to fighting in octagon with man, not fighting girls and woman in his personal life anymore.
His opponent should be Stipe Miocic if everything goes well, and I am excited to see if he can really compete in heavyweight division.
I am not sure in what shape Miocic is now and he needs to step up if he wants to come back after that nasty defeat from N'Gannou.

I have a feeling that any hype that was produced when JBJ first said he would be fighting at HW is long gone by now. Stipe is not the champ anymore, and Jones fights so sporadically that people have moved on, especially regarding his out of the octagon behavior. I myself was excited about something like that when it first was talked about, but now, there is so much going on in the other divisions that this seems fairly bland. Maybe I change my tune if it really gets set up, but until then...

^  Yup same..  And I think the UFC would make a match for the winner as interim champion since Ngannou is still recovering from his knee surgery.  Dana White is trying to leverage that interim belt to make sure Ngannou stays in line and fights or he'll be stripped off his title.  Ngannou is undergoing a contract dispute with the UFC.

Here's jeremypwr's multi master in case some of you guys haven't made your picks yet.

UFC Fight Night 205 Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-205-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5395141

Here's my event's lottery tickets.  Lol.

Andrade - Romanov - Dean at 1.71
Add:  Kape - Aori at 3.55
Add:  Guida - Vannata - Barriault at 19.43
Add:  Dela Rosa - Grant - Prachniao at 177.49
Add:  Villianueva at 887.43

Take note that my picks for the multi master and my full card parlay have two picks that are different.  I think Barber and Pedro will be the pie shitters of the week.  
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April 21, 2022, 09:12:10 AM
There is lot of talking that Jon Jones is finally coming back to fighting in octagon with man, not fighting girls and woman in his personal life anymore.
His opponent should be Stipe Miocic if everything goes well, and I am excited to see if he can really compete in heavyweight division.
I am not sure in what shape Miocic is now and he needs to step up if he wants to come back after that nasty defeat from N'Gannou.

I dont believe Jon Jones would ever come back to UFC or continue his MMA career. Fans still want to see him, UFC want to make their last money on that milking cow. But nobody knows what Jon Jones really want. He talks a lot, but he really wanted to return, he would have done it long time ago. Two years have passed since his last fight. He has been mixing his training with alcohol and breaking law. UFC rooster has changed greatly since his last fight. He can return to UFC to make his last fight only.

Jon Jones want to be a heavyweight. Ok, as a former lightheavy champ, he should not get a fighter from bottom of the top. Heavyweights top5 will smash him easily. Jones wants to fight Miocic? I think it will be easy money if you bet on Stepe.
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April 21, 2022, 04:10:08 AM
There is lot of talking that Jon Jones is finally coming back to fighting in octagon with man, not fighting girls and woman in his personal life anymore.
His opponent should be Stipe Miocic if everything goes well, and I am excited to see if he can really compete in heavyweight division.
I am not sure in what shape Miocic is now and he needs to step up if he wants to come back after that nasty defeat from N'Gannou.

I have a feeling that any hype that was produced when JBJ first said he would be fighting at HW is long gone by now. Stipe is not the champ anymore, and Jones fights so sporadically that people have moved on, especially regarding his out of the octagon behavior. I myself was excited about something like that when it first was talked about, but now, there is so much going on in the other divisions that this seems fairly bland. Maybe I change my tune if it really gets set up, but until then...
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April 20, 2022, 02:36:14 PM
There is lot of talking that Jon Jones is finally coming back to fighting in octagon with man, not fighting girls and woman in his personal life anymore.
His opponent should be Stipe Miocic if everything goes well, and I am excited to see if he can really compete in heavyweight division.
I am not sure in what shape Miocic is now and he needs to step up if he wants to come back after that nasty defeat from N'Gannou.
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April 20, 2022, 08:50:19 AM
Many people underestimated Belal Muhammad in main event against Vicente Luque, but I think he proved that he is a very good fighter.
I checked rankings on UFC website now and Belal Muhammad is on 6th position in welterweight division dropped one position, so I am not sure if it was updated or not.
Fantastic jump for Khamzat Chimaev who is now third place in same division, and I think one of this guys will challenge champion Kamaru Usman next.

Well, count me as one of the person who underestimated Muhammad, but I think he is not ready to face the rank 4 fighters in the Welterweight division I really think a rematch with Stephen Thompson could be a proper way for him if he didn't struggle with Thompson or if he can show us that he has a new move that is hiding up his sleeves then I think he could try the upper fighters on the division.

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I think Dana White already made a promise to Leon Edwards, giving him a shot at Kamaru's belt. UFC can make Covington vs Chimaev. Chimaev is already trolling Colby in his posts. Very intriguing fight. Khamzat is very strong but I don't think he is better than Colby in the grounds. Belal is not that far from a championship fight. Maybe 2 to 3 straight wins and he will have it. Not that easy though. 

I really think that Leon Edwards will surely get that fight but I don't think his prepare for Usman, but I'd like to see that fight and with the Khamzat Chimaev VS Colby Covington, I don't want to sound bias for Chimaev but I really think Covington will not stand a chance against Chimaev especially in the ground, Khamzat Chimaev is pretty much stronger on ground fights and Colby Covington might end up like Jing Liang when Chimaev totally pulverize Jing Liang with his power, that is why he withstands a brawl with Gilbert Burns,


Belal Muhammad wants a title shot one day.  So he would only take on opponents who would take him a step nearer to that goal if he gets the W.  Luque was one of those fighters.  I think he'll be given one more match up vs a top 5 guy then a title shot if he wins...  Leon Edwards is scheduled to fight Usman, Covington is up in the air as he won vs Masvidal but also lost  to Usman twice, so maybe Covington?  Then again Chimaev is also in the mix so it's prolly him too.

Anyway, who you guys got at first glance on the next event's roster?

I really don't know about Muhammad but I guess he's going to surely take up 1 of the top 5 in the Welterweight division, and I really think Colby Covington is the one I really like him to face because I really believe that Belal Muhammad isn't fit to face the strength of Burns or Chimaev, and likely the style of Usman, the 1 I could think of that's fits the bill for Muhammad can be Covington only, of course, after the Covington VS Chimaev fight, that is,


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April 20, 2022, 05:00:33 AM
Many people underestimated Belal Muhammad in main event against Vicente Luque, but I think he proved that he is a very good fighter.
I checked rankings on UFC website now and Belal Muhammad is on 6th position in welterweight division dropped one position, so I am not sure if it was updated or not.
Fantastic jump for Khamzat Chimaev who is now third place in same division, and I think one of this guys will challenge champion Kamaru Usman next.

I think Dana White already made a promise to Leon Edwards, giving him a shot at Kamaru's belt. UFC can make Covington vs Chimaev. Chimaev is already trolling Colby in his posts. Very intriguing fight. Khamzat is very strong but I don't think he is better than Colby in the grounds. Belal is not that far from a championship fight. Maybe 2 to 3 straight wins and he will have it. Not that easy though. 

I wonder why the UFC even has a matchmaking division in their company, and why they pay them. Fire them all and let Dana just move the chess pieces around however he wants XD His comments just kill me and all of the anticipations that comes from trying to figure out who could it be... But I am generally fed up with Dana's comments and his personality so maybe that just rubbed me the wrong way more than it should. As for Belals title shots, maybe 3 fights to the title fight would be too much, but it really depends who Usman fights next.
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April 19, 2022, 08:22:58 AM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.
It is funny how he was at the UFC desk just a month ago giving advice on how the matches were going for these UFC bouts.
I've seen him fight before but it seemed he was not wanting to fight up until this match with Luque came along.
He looked to be quite comfortable just giving his technical analyst of the fights and not actually doing the fighting.
But glad he won as I had him on most if not all of my bets for the UFC this past weekend.

Belal Muhammad wants a title shot one day.  So he would only take on opponents who would take him a step nearer to that goal if he gets the W.  Luque was one of those fighters.  I think he'll be given one more match up vs a top 5 guy then a title shot if he wins...  Leon Edwards is scheduled to fight Usman, Covington is up in the air as he won vs Masvidal but also lost  to Usman twice, so maybe Covington?  Then again Chimaev is also in the mix so it's prolly him too.

Anyway, who you guys got at first glance on the next event's roster?
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April 19, 2022, 06:38:27 AM
Many people underestimated Belal Muhammad in main event against Vicente Luque, but I think he proved that he is a very good fighter.
I checked rankings on UFC website now and Belal Muhammad is on 6th position in welterweight division dropped one position, so I am not sure if it was updated or not.
Fantastic jump for Khamzat Chimaev who is now third place in same division, and I think one of this guys will challenge champion Kamaru Usman next.

I think Dana White already made a promise to Leon Edwards, giving him a shot at Kamaru's belt. UFC can make Covington vs Chimaev. Chimaev is already trolling Colby in his posts. Very intriguing fight. Khamzat is very strong but I don't think he is better than Colby in the grounds. Belal is not that far from a championship fight. Maybe 2 to 3 straight wins and he will have it. Not that easy though. 

I have also heard that Edwards will meet Kamaru next. Or Edwards set conditions, that he will only fight Usman next. They have already met in 2015, Edwards is on a good winning streak, giving him Usman next would be fair.

I think Chimaev should fight (smesh!) someone else before having a title fight. Lets not forget that he was on top11 recently, took a good beating from Burns but one via decision. This was first serious test of Chimaev skills. Giving him champion next looks way to quick to me.
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April 19, 2022, 05:15:44 AM
Many people underestimated Belal Muhammad in main event against Vicente Luque, but I think he proved that he is a very good fighter.
I checked rankings on UFC website now and Belal Muhammad is on 6th position in welterweight division dropped one position, so I am not sure if it was updated or not.
Fantastic jump for Khamzat Chimaev who is now third place in same division, and I think one of this guys will challenge champion Kamaru Usman next.

I think Dana White already made a promise to Leon Edwards, giving him a shot at Kamaru's belt. UFC can make Covington vs Chimaev. Chimaev is already trolling Colby in his posts. Very intriguing fight. Khamzat is very strong but I don't think he is better than Colby in the grounds. Belal is not that far from a championship fight. Maybe 2 to 3 straight wins and he will have it. Not that easy though. 
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April 18, 2022, 04:57:03 PM
Many people underestimated Belal Muhammad in main event against Vicente Luque, but I think he proved that he is a very good fighter.
I checked rankings on UFC website now and Belal Muhammad is on 6th position in welterweight division dropped one position, so I am not sure if it was updated or not.
Fantastic jump for Khamzat Chimaev who is now third place in same division, and I think one of this guys will challenge champion Kamaru Usman next.
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April 18, 2022, 09:26:22 AM
I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.
Terrible take down defense paired with a decent ability to take down by Belal. I can't say I'm overly surprised, but I'm not convinced that Belal will challenge for anything meaningful. I find him quite one dimensional, and think he gets taken out by the big boys. I haven't got anything against him he just doesn't come across as a personality, and his fighting doesn't do enough to make me a fan of him.

Maybe, Luque just had a off day, but he made quite a few mistakes leading to the take downs which were easily avoided. I do think this was a prime example of being cautious of the take down, therefore not letting his hands go, and in evidently being taken down, and grind out to a decision loss.

Well, I don't really think Belal Muhammad could go even further, than Vicente Luque, but I had to admit, Vicente Luque is not himself that day, his take down defense is off, and I don't really think much of Muhammad could go even further that time, I could see him as an average fighter, but  we can not underestimate that average fighter he could surely done something if he tries, but further on the top 4 on the Welterweight Division he can not pass from that point,



And just in, Dana White just announce a big fight this summer on the Heavyweight division, and this is between Stipe Miocic VS Jon Jones, This is quite a move for the UFC because right now Francis Ngannou has a problem with the Contract and could leave the title, or this is to pressure Ngannou about his contract, but in my opinion, I don't like how Jon Jones could anytime can get the Heavyweight champion without making it up the ladder, I want a Cyril Gane VS Stipe Miocic fight then with the Jon Jones fight, but that is how the UFC wants to be and I think a lot of fans want a fight between this two the only problem is Jon Jones and Stipe Miocic confirmation about this.
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April 18, 2022, 07:22:44 AM
I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.
Terrible take down defense paired with a decent ability to take down by Belal. I can't say I'm overly surprised, but I'm not convinced that Belal will challenge for anything meaningful. I find him quite one dimensional, and think he gets taken out by the big boys. I haven't got anything against him he just doesn't come across as a personality, and his fighting doesn't do enough to make me a fan of him.

Maybe, Luque just had a off day, but he made quite a few mistakes leading to the take downs which were easily avoided. I do think this was a prime example of being cautious of the take down, therefore not letting his hands go, and in evidently being taken down, and grind out to a decision loss.
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April 18, 2022, 06:37:39 AM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.

I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.

It's really hard to tell. I would say that on the level Luque is, regarding grappling, his TD defense should be at least decent. Maybe just a combo of the two that didn't work for Luque, OR, he was so sure of himself if it comes to a grappling exchange, that he let those TDs happen, thinking he would take advantage of being on his back. It's not the usual gameplay, as it's a much riskier situation that the top position, but I can see someone like Ortega using this tactic as he is really confident off his back.

It is funny how he was at the UFC desk just a month ago giving advice on how the matches were going for these UFC bouts.
I've seen him fight before but it seemed he was not wanting to fight up until this match with Luque came along.
He looked to be quite comfortable just giving his technical analyst of the fights and not actually doing the fighting.
But glad he won as I had him on most if not all of my bets for the UFC this past weekend.

I don't blame fighters for picking their fights if they can.
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April 17, 2022, 11:14:46 PM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.
It is funny how he was at the UFC desk just a month ago giving advice on how the matches were going for these UFC bouts.
I've seen him fight before but it seemed he was not wanting to fight up until this match with Luque came along.
He looked to be quite comfortable just giving his technical analyst of the fights and not actually doing the fighting.
But glad he won as I had him on most if not all of my bets for the UFC this past weekend.
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April 17, 2022, 10:22:13 PM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.

I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.

Kianzad - Lazzez - Sabatini at 2.16
Add:  Luque  - Nunes -  Clark at 7.63
Add:  Alateng -  Bueno Silva - Omargahdziev at 24.32
Add:  Buday -  Garcia at 65.69 -
Add:  Fialho - Leavitt at 354.45

Not that it mattered, Nunes lost too.  The point deduction cost her.  But at least I broke even by winning the top ticket...  On to the next event.

As soon as I see his match of Luque with Thompson, I admit I sure am excited on this match and thinking Luque will surely drag Muhammad into submission but in my opinion and my observation on the fight, Belal Muhammad is really good in evading and letting Luque follow him then he would land a kick or punches, which is I think Belal Muhammad have learned something from their previous fight he is not aggressive anymore; he is letting Luque thinks he is pressuring him. I admit Belal Muhammad can be technical with his moves and by that take-down that was really fast, where Belal is charging very quickly in giving a takedown. Vicente Luque is not really ready for it, so I think Luque really doesn't have bad takedown defense it's just that he is not ready for that takedown Belal was so fast in charging at Luque, but I don't really regret the outcome. even though I lost, it is just surprising in my opinion, and I still manage to get my lost with the other fights.

I was Impressed with Fialho he surely grab the opportunity in hitting Baeza multiple times on, and because of the strength of his strikes he makes Miguel Baesa nose bleeds, that makes Baeza irritable to Breath.
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April 17, 2022, 05:05:15 PM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.

I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.

Kianzad - Lazzez - Sabatini at 2.16
Add:  Luque  - Nunes -  Clark at 7.63
Add:  Alateng -  Bueno Silva - Omargahdziev at 24.32
Add:  Buday -  Garcia at 65.69 -
Add:  Fialho - Leavitt at 354.45

Not that it mattered, Nunes lost too.  The point deduction cost her.  But at least I broke even by winning the top ticket...  On to the next event.
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April 17, 2022, 10:12:29 AM
Here is the result of the UFC Fight Night: Luque VS Muhammad  

Vicente Luque VS Belal Muhammad - LOST


I really think that Luque is more aggressive and always pressuring Muhammad, now Belal Muhammad is doing differently from what he is doing in this match what he is not doing in their 1st match, Muhammad did it differently, evading then when Luque catch up he will throw kicks or punches, pretty much Belal Muhammad didn't try to take advantage over on the ground because he sure knows very well what Vicente Luque can do, so he Belal Muhammad is keeping his pace safely and giving strikes when they are on the ground and Muhammad is controlling the fight, I really didn't expect that to happen I really though that Luque has got this, but then again it is a total loss, but still rewatching the fight if he judges count it properly, and checking out if I missed something.


Miguel Baeza VS Andre Fialho - WIN

Kudos to Miguel Baeza actually he can also win this if Fialho didn't bust Baeza's nose but like I have said Andre Fialho definitely has that power from his striking, and Baeza's rapid punch from Fialho, was really not enough Fialho has the durability to withstand those but the fight has already finished when Miguel Baeza's nose was bleeding we can see that Baeza can not breathe anymore, and always keeps a check on his nose, so that is the opportunity for Andre Fialho to give that winning punches, to Baeza, what an incredible fight, and kudos to both fighters.

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