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Have you placed your bet on Charles winning by submission? Odds are pretty high for that. Odds for the fight to go the distance is also tempting at over 3.5. Both fighters can definitely last five rounds but hard to see the match going to the judges score card.

Yes, Amanda Nunes is in a different league, when she won her second belt and that level of power she got from dominating all her opponents there is doubt no need for analysis for this fight I guess, but maybe having a child and giving birth would take effect on her, but I doubt that would happen, let's just wait and see if her opponent Julianna Peña could expose her weakness but I surely having doubt she could take on Nunes with that stats.


You can be right about this and Ryan Hall could get another loss from Darrick Minner, and comparing their body build maybe Minner has power on his takedown defense, and that Imanari Roll is really outdated right now maybe he builds new tricks up his sleeves well, I really don't want my expectation on Ryan Hall to disintegrate that is why I am giving this fight to him and if Darrick Minner could go on with a ground fight I really think Ryan Hall can have his way around, but If Minner can have a tip on Ryan Hall's recent fight against Ilia Topuria and preventing those Imanari Roll, and if Ryan Hall only knows that one technique they he surely underestimating the level of UFC right now.

Unfortunately, at least two women's divisions are utterly dominated by one person who is clearly multiple levels above the competition. Both physically, and skillset which unfortunately makes poor viewing. The women's divisions for this reason are usually more exciting when prospects, and ranked, but not top ranked fighters face each other. Usually, get quite a few good fights then. Although, the championship fights are usually quite lackluster due to the clear mismatch. Rose obviously did well recently though.

I just can't bet against Ryan Hall on the ground.  I can see him losing quite a few fights against a striker, just like his last fight. Quite a few times in his career hes been caught on the head rolling in, and those that can resist the takedown are fairly safe against him. However, when you commit to rolling with him, its almost like its his world even against top level wrestlers, and BJJ practitioners.

Here are my picks for the next event of the UFC.

UFC 269 Picks

Charles Oliveira VS Dustin Poirier

Both guys can sure take out their opponent by Submission, Knock-out Decision that is how well-rounded these two are, and for me, this is a crazy fight to look out for, and it is sure to be entertaining, last fight that Poirier lost to was Khabib Nurmagomedov, and for Oliveira that is Paul Felder on 2017, many guys are saying that Charles Oliveira can wrestle Dustin Poirier and could win with a submission but Dustin Poirier could wrestle aswell, and like I said he could also win via Submission, and this is an interesting fight because I think that Dustin Poirier has good takedown defense and a good stand up and Charles Oliveira is not Khabib Nurmagomenodov, and if you look at the big stars Dustin Poirier have fought with versus the fighters Charles Oliveira have fought with, and right now stake odds for Oliveira is 2.41 while Poirier is 1.63 making Poirier the favorite, but I am confident with Dustin Poirier winning this.

Amanda Nunes VS Julianna Peña

I don't know why the UFC has pushed this fight through I mean I really think this is a missed match, because well I don't really want to say that Julianna Peña is weak, I am saying that Amanda Nunes is just way stronger for her, even though Amanda Nunes is having her baby for the 1st time and she had focused in the family life for quite some time now but for me, Amanda Nunes could still bulldoze her, I may be one-sided with this pick but I surely think she could win this, and stake odds was surely has a huge difference 1.12 for Nunes and 7.40 for Peña, well if you have bet for Peña and she wins then you hit the jackpot but then again it is not profitable to bet for Nunes so I will sit this one out. but my pick would be Amanda Nunes for the win.

Ryan Hall VS Darrick Minner

This is a fight between wrestlers but for me, Darrick Minner can win on Submission and can also lose on submission, and for me, Ryan Hall can shine with this fight because Ryan Hall really wants to fight on the ground so if you Minner wants to fight on the ground Hall can surely oblige with that move and can win this, I think the level of difference between these two with their wrestling is huge and I think Ryan Hall has that advantage, stake odds 1.50 for Hall and 2.75 for Minner, I will go with Ryan Hall with this one.

Charles Oliveira will definitely want to fight on the ground in the match. I think it will take a lot of tries for this, if he gets behind Porier like you said, he'll be done. Dustin Poirier  is aware that his opponent is a Jiu-Jiutsu Master, and he spent a preparation period for it, I wonder what strategy he will follow. If he hits explosive hits at the beginning of the match, I think he will continue and he can TKO. Dustin Poirier deserves that belt and will fight for it.

Yeah, it very much likely does contribute to ill health. However, unfortunately the understanding of the brain is rather lackluster. Though, significant amounts of money is being poured into it thanks to sports recently. For example, other sports like Football are investigating whether headering a football has an impact on brain health, so you can imagine what a career's worth of punches, and kicks is going to give you.

Though, data is rather inconclusive, obviously we do know to some extent that impact on the brain definitely can damage it, and I would say there's some sort of weak evidence that points to volume being worse than impact of the hit, since boxers seem to have considerably more brain injuries or illnesses linked with CTE than fighters in MMA.

I would add that some people can not just take multiple shots throughout their career, but their health does not suffer from it. But I still can't get behind the idea that that doesn't add up in a way. Obviously, the combination of great technique and toughness is the best option, but people that are tough usually don't develop great technique, so there is always a trade-off.

One of the fights I've had a eye on for a while too. Should be a close fight, and the odds are showing that with both 1.80 / 1.90. Although, I could never bet against my man Tai Tuivasa, he made me a fan for his down to earth nature, and entertainment.

Ryan Hall's fight, Tai Tuivasa fight, to keep me entertained while I wait for Oliveria to submit Poirier . Nah, I really don't know what's going to happen in the main event, same with pretty much all three of these fights. Though, due to the return I'm going to have to bet on a Ryan Hall submission, Oliveria Submission, and a Tai Tuivasa knockout.

I just made my predictions for UFC Sportsbet promotion and I honestly think this is going to be very good fight card to watch.
Even prelims with big heavyweights Augusto Sakai and Tai Tuivasa will be bombastic and I don't know for sure who will win that fight.

UFC 269 media day is now live and you can listen for statements from most fighters or watch recording later on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNdKhibLalA

Already have it planned for this weekend; wings, pizza, and some beers for the event. Last time I was this excited for an event, Conor snapped his ankle so be prepared .
I know this is a cliche, but some people are just built different, and are able to absorb a tremendous amount of damage. You can have all the technique in the world, e.g riding the shots while they come at you, tucking the chin when striking, but certain people just seem to have more of a threshold than others.

Just look at Kattar, and how much damage he suffered against Max Holloway. I do believe Max that night set the record for number of punches in a UFC fight, which is unreal considering almost all of them were landing quite significantly.

If Oliveira will be able to get Poirier on the ground or jump on his back, then it will be over for Poirier in a couple of minutes. If Poirier avoids all these takedowns, he will win by points. He is easily able to "boxing for points" and take all the rounds. But, if he goes with "box for points" he will definitely TKO/KO Oliveira, as Oliveira is not good at dodging bullets with his head. If this goes like that, Poirier will win in second or third round.

This is really an interesting fight. To become a champ, Poirier must boost the fight, but in fact he could allow himself to be passive for some rounds. For Oliveira, to be able to keep the belt, he must risk and go to close distance against a perfect striker. This is the time when champion must worry much more to keep belt, than a contender must struggle.

I’m no too sure if it’s gonna be like the match vs Khabib.  Oliviera doesn’t have elite wrestling.  He has the BJJ but not the wrestling.  And Oliviera isn’t as relentless as Khabib is in grappling, tho he has elite BJJ skills.  And don’t forget Oliviera got almost starched by Chandler in the first round.

But yeah...  As far as the line value goes, Poirier at 1.65 is I guess ‘fair’ so we have to look for where the value is.  Oliviera at 2.37?  Dunno..  Let’s wait for the props.  If Poirier via KO/TKO is at around 2.50, I’ll take that one.

I would say that Oliveira is not as bad in stance, as Poirier is bad at wrestling I never saw Poirier using his BJJ skills, I think he uses it only to avoid takedowns. He even rarely uses kicks. Oliveira is more universal fighter, expert on the ground, deadly in clinch thanks to muay thai training. During last years Oliveira improved his striking, but if you watch some of his last fights - he still take a lot of damage to the head. He blocks, he pulls his hands back to chin after punches. But he did not move head to dodge. He does not even lean back to dodge. That is the key for success for Poirier.

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I'd love to watch the full fight, but maybe it'll appear later on YouTube. In the meantime I watched this video where Guida was called " a maniac" and "Sasquatch from the woods, one step down on the ladder of evolution", jokingly and friendly, of course. At this point, in the beginning of the first round, Santos almost finished him, hitting him for almost 1 minute straight. How can you recover from that? But Guida did, and won the fight in the second round. Amazing stuff.

Yeah, I think I'm going to bite the bullet, and take up the odds being offered for a Oliveria win. Worth putting in a bet for a submission I think considering he has the most in the UFC. Poirier being decent on the ground might mitigate that a little bit, but he definitely has taken out decorated wrestlers before. I think most of the fan base is expecting a Poirier win, but I actually think this is due to the fan base following Poirier's career more than Oliveria's. I have a few friends which casually watch the bigger fight nights, and they said they hadn't even seen Oliveria fight, and are doubling down on a Poirier win. Crazy really considering his skill set.

I think it all comes down to Oliveria not being a massive personality in the UFC, and the lack of speaking English hurts him in terms of a following. Luckily, you don't need a following to win belts.

Eh, I wouldn't say this is a pure BJJ vs Boxing situation as Dustin trained pure boxing only a year before switching to MMA full time, and actually holds a black belt in BJJ. I do think Charlie Olives is more proficient on the ground, no doubt, but Dusting can hold his own down there (and don't hold the Khabib loss against him, that's a whole different beast we're talking about.)

This is monster UFC event coming up this weekend and I enjoy watching both Charles Oliveira and Dustin Poirier.
It's not going to be easy win for Oliveira but I think he will prevail in the end, and I like the underdog odds on him very much.

As much as I would like to see end of Amanda Nunes domination, I honestly don't think that Julianna Pena can seriously be any threat for current champion.
I just hope she can survives few rounds and perform at her best.

Oliveira vs Poirier, bjj vs boxing. From my experience, a pure wrestler is always victorious over striking guy. Oliveira is not a wrestler, but a BJJ guy. He is not able to devour strikes, to be able to get inside, put his opponent on the ground and ground and pound till the fight is over. But he surely can submit. Oliveira hold the record of most submissions among all UFC fighters. If he will be able to survive few punches and get the fight to the ground, then Poirier is finished. However, bookies think different. They gave 1.51 for Poirier and 2.45 for Oliveira. I think Oliveira has more chances to win this fight.

Did you know that Poirier and Oliveira total fight of the night bonus count is 27 ?!? I think this guys will sell a lot of PPV this Sunday.

Sunday 12th of December is one you should not miss, for the main event Charles Oliveira Vs Dustin Poirier,. Oliver's ofc have the ground game advantage but after his last fight with Michael, he can definately show his skills to knock out a violent man. Poirier on the other hand has earned this fight. His boxing technique is not to be overlooked, I expect a martial arts exhibition.

Returning to the octagon, Amanda facing her new opponent Pena, Amanda will obviously destroy Pena just like her other opponents.
Finally the fight of the night, I predict Shawn O' Mally will have a classic walk off finish.

What you think guys about main event? Will Oliveira vs Poirier event set a new PPV record (I bet not) or at least be in top10 UFC PPVs ?

I have a feeling, that the main fight will be a copy of Khabib vs Poirier fight scenario. Poirier will be better in striking, but will lose due to submission. But, I must admit that the fight is going to very close. Both fighters have almost identical records and experience in UFC.

If Poirier wins, Conor will put 200% effort to have a fourth fight