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I do believe Chandler will win against Tony Ferguson, but I think this odds are just not right.
Ferguson is always serious, he doesn't smile much before matches, and he is not going to give up easy.
I am predicting this to be long distance fight and it will go all three rounds, and this is best bet in this fight.

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Check out recent Tony Ferguson photo few days before fight against Chandler. You know what I dont like about this picture ? There are no sparkles in Tony's eyes (and there are lots of pictures of smiling Chandler in UFC instagram). He looks old, and tired. I dont know how is he going to win with such attitude. I expect a hard beating for Tony. It will be hard to watch, as he wont tap.

Yeah, I agree to an extent, but we'll probably see Tony looking to stand up, and Chandler will mix it up like he usually does. Chandler wins fights via pressure, constant pressure. I don't expect anything different so while he will definitely be looking for the knockout, he'll be shooting for take downs, and there will likely be a bit of grappling mixed in.

I can see Tony going to another organisation if the UFC aren't willing to offer him another contract, which I do doubt. Think he probably still has some fights in him, despite his dwindling ability, and obviously his age catching up with him. He just comes across as a man that loves the sport, and will probably be doing it for much longer than he really should be.

Ultimately, for this fight I don't see anything, but a Chandler win.

Both do have a wrestling background but they prefer using strikes, I really think they only used those takedowns when the opponent got an upper hand in striking, but even though they don't usually use those ground moves, they surely can win via submission, so both must look out for those takedowns, and if this is a farewell fight for Tony Ferguson, then Tony must win this so he can have a good time moving on to other stuff, Ferguson is recently active his last fight and that is May 15, 2021, while Chandler November 6, 2021,  so I guess Michael Chandler needs to familiarize again but judging from Chandler I really think he doesn't need those kind of things, well this is a very interesting fight and I will look for further details on their old fights.


That is for sure, Khabib is genuine in my opinion, while I really don't want to compare them because they are not similar, well, Charles Oliveira is not looking tough anymore, not like in his recent years, but he can still execute pretty much crazy stunt to pull off a submission because his opponent pretty much has the advantage when it comes to striking, but Justin Gaethje is pretty much good at knocking out his opponent or he can also go the distance from round 4 to 5, and win it by decision, but I would not underestimate Charles Oliveira just yet, 

If we look at the Poirier vs Justin fight, that was also a very close fight despite Poirier getting the win. Poirier was rocked a few times, and I'm not sure if Olivera has the chin that Poirier does. Also, I do think Justin has improved since, and will be looking to prove that this event. Olivera only chance of surviving would be going for the take down as soon as he's hurt, I don't see him not getting hurt at least once in this fight, and it all depends on how he manages that. If he doesn't deal with it well, i.e go for the take down, then I'd say that's game over. The thing with Poirier, he was willing to take the shots, and also swang, and bang, which lead to a bit of a stalemate, Olivera doesn't do that as much, at least not with the same amount of threat.

It'll be interesting, he haven't seen Justin dominated on the ground except for Khabib. So, whoever wins this fight, their stock increases I think. Olivera less so, obviously.

Oliveira sure isn't Khabib, you'll never see him blast a double leg from the middle of the octagon I'd say Olivs was more chinny a couple of years ago than he is now, but even looking to his last losses, he hasn't had any KOs or TKOs that we would consider to be due to a glass jaw (the Felder's elbows are not something Geathje can pull of and before that, it was just a matter of getting rocked), so while that might be a concern, I wouldn't say that's the biggest factor.

What about Chandler vs Ferguson fight? A farewell fight for Tony? He has not won since 2019. 3 straight losses and his opponent is one of the toughest in division. On the other hand, Chandler is not in a better position. 2 losses in a row. People make fun buy saying that he has more kids than wins in UFC lol (he has adopted new kid two weeks ago).

I always find it strange, that Chandler has wrestling background, but prefers to exchange strikes. Tony is also a fan of using such tactics. If there will be a possibility to bet on Ferguson face to be a bloody mess, I would bet and win this bet this weekend.

This could also be set up by his coach and people on his team, what is the best plan they can take against Collier, I think he only made a decision to follow their plan, and sometimes age doesn't really matter in some situations, but it will always be seen on his performance if their age is catching up to them if they can really still able to fight to younger guys,


Oh sorry I think I made a mistake when saying that three judges have scored for Arlovski but it was a split decision, but again may have typed or read it wrong,


I am sure glad this fight is on the weekend it is like I am waiting for a much-awaited event to come and all we have is just an appetizer, but this time we can have the main course, and Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje is a fresh of breath air that I think many are anticipating and I really think Oliveira has the experience to cut off Gaethje, but Justin is not going to back down from this in my opinion,

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Apart from the Oliveira VS Gaethje fight the Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza was another I like to see and Namajunas, in my opinion, has changed the way a woman has a fight I see more technicality to every win Namajunas have, and we can see if she isn't a fluke and if she can pull a win just like she did with the Zhang Weili fight.

Glad to see I'm not the only crazy bastard thinking Justin could actually take this one. I'd definitely say he isn't the favourite, but I don't know I have a good feeling, and the odds are looking tasty.

Yeah, I'm not sure. To be honest, I don't think it has effected him much up until this point, but only he really knows that. I don't think his defensive ability is because of lack of seeing the punches, but rather the way he sets himself up, and of course the rushed, and hectic nature he tends to go into the takedowns with.

They have many lost fights as well, and this will show up much more as they get older in their joints and brains.
I think that Khabib did a right thing when he quit on top, not that anyone was near of seriously hurting him like those guys.
Cowboy has interesting fights but guy won only one time in last nine fights, and I don't know how long Dana will keep him in UFC if he loses again this weekend.

I just watched the Countdown show for 274.  Why do I think Trevor Whitman could get Gaethje to win vs Oliveira.  I mean with Oliveira close to being starched by Chandler then Poirier after that, I think Gaethje could get the job done.  That chin has to give in at some point.  And Chute Boxe is known for hard sparring and having their guys conucssed at times.

Anyway get hyped.  Watch Countdown and enjoy. 

UFC 274:  Countdown - Full Episode
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The parallel with Khabib was that he is not afraid of ground game and in fact, prefers that. He uses muay thai stance (his legs are close, he does not stand wide), he uses front leg as a jab (that is not Khabib) = he is not afraid to be taken down. Instead, he prefers to be taken down, as he could use his favourite guillotine. He is like Khabib, pushing forward with strikes, with a wish to turn the game to ground or get behind. Despite eating lots of punches with face


What about Oliveiras poor eyesight. Does interfere him much? What do you think?  Because Charles Oliveira admits his dreadful vision is 'only at 50 per cent' without glasses and jokes he sees THREE opponents during fights.

Yeah, for me Khabib is a different fighter to Oliveira. For one, I consider Khabib to be more cautious, whereas Oliveira risks is too much for his type of style. He's a little more rushed, and more hectic, which usually means good viewing, but a bit more risk to him, and whoever has bet on him.

I might be wrong, but I consider Gaethje a better, at least more impactful striker. While, Poirier is the more well rounded fighter. Although, having said that despite Poirier losing on the night, he very nearly finished that fight a few times, hence my comment about Oliveira being a little bit suspect in terms of defense.

I'll be going for Gaethje via finish @ 2.87. That's good enough odds for me to put a little cheeky bet on. To be honest, even the Oliveira decision line @ 6.50 is rather encouraging. I do see him either getting knocked out or putting the submission on Gaethje though. Gaethje is a tough guy though, which I do believe was a decent wrestler.

Here's an updated roster from Tapology.

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The UFC found a match up for Andre Fialho as a featured bout in the prelim just after fighting a couple of weeks ago.  I wonder how trying to make the weight again would affect his performance.


Not sure if you can call Oliveira is like Khabib, different styles but they both have elite submission skills.  I do agree that Oliveira has somewhat worse defensive skills.  And not only that, he's kinda chinny.  The pick is Oliveira to win but I wouldn't mind gambling a little something something for the Gaethje KO prop.

Edit:  Typos.

For me Oliveira is like Khabib, but with much worse defensive skills. Olivera over the time has improved his striking and defence, but still not enough. He has learned head moves to avoid jabs, but he is really bad when his opponent attacks on different levels. If his opponent does 3 strikes to the head and swings to make a fourth strike, then Oliveira practically would never defend his body. As a native BJJ fighter, he is very good on striking, but defence is his weak point. His really takes a lot of damage. With Gaethje, and his low kicks, that might not be good. However Poirier is counted to be a good striker, but he had lost to Oliveira.

Not really. J-Lau is far better at grappling than Donald, and if can get it to the ground, I would predict a tough and long night and a win for Lauzon. An easy fight would be if Cerrone was better at everything Lauzon does, and that's just not the case. So this is a classic battle of styles and the question is who can assert his style more efficiently. Also, Cerrone's last fight was a loss from Morono, and I am not gonna say Morono is a shlump by any means, but that also should have been an easier fight for Donald.

I'm expecting a close fight, not sure on the outcome. I see it both going to decision, and a TKO. I don't think Cerrone will find the knockout though. I've found as he has got a little older, his chin has been rather suspect. Plus, his ability has clearly been waning over the years. So, despite Joe being out for a long time, he could get the job done here. It's Cerrone though, so we know there's going to be a fight on.

For me, the odds on a betting perspective are with Joe, who has the value for money. I don't think I consider Cerrone a big enough favourite, not to go against him here, even if the odds aren't massively wide.

Also, this event is going to be good. I've got Gaethje against Oliveira which might be surpriging to some. I just find that while Oliveira is exceptional when it comes to the ground game, he gets clipped way to often in previous fights, something you can't do against Gaethje.

He is not old, just 39 In the neighbour promotion Bellator, this weekend 47 y.o Cheick Kongo is having a title fight. Now that is old I dont think that Cerrone would retire, he just wont get into top15 anymore. He is well knows for UFC fans and UFC would keep using him to earn.

When I visited UFC.com today, I was reminded about new UFC NFT Packages. Anyone from here own UFC NFTs? I think UFC wanted to join that hype, but did not get real response from fans. UFC would have earned more if they had stickers albums (like Panini in 90s and 00 era).

6 successive losses is terrible. i use to bet for the cowboy because he has done miracles in the cage. you can see him almost about to get knockout but turn the fight around. but now that he is old i think it's time for him to retire. when he fought McGregor i thought he can also land big shots but he just curl to cover. he use to be the goat.

Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller and Andrei Arlovski now hold the record of most wins in UFC. Every fighter has 23 win in their record.

This weekend Cowboy is facing Joe Lauzon, who was on a pause for quite a long time. Do you think on Sunday, Donald Cerrone will take a lead on most wins list ? I think yes, it looks like Lauzon is not a very strong fighter compared with Cerrone, and UFC gave Cerrone an easy fight (to raise his spirit probably), because he is on a series of 6 looses.